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May 31, 2016, 01:50:47 AM
#54
now this is new . i thought primedice was very safe since it is one of the oldest and most reputed casino in bitcoin gambling industry i did see robert asking for his money in chat . is this confirmed? that he lost his 13 btc ? or any script caused him that ?

I never used a script my friend. Please read the thread Smiley
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May 31, 2016, 01:47:25 AM
#53
now this is new . i thought primedice was very safe since it is one of the oldest and most reputed casino in bitcoin gambling industry i did see robert asking for his money in chat . is this confirmed? that he lost his 13 btc ? or any script caused him that ?
legendary
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May 31, 2016, 01:45:00 AM
#52
To be frank i must say that stunna is a shit , he never replies to his customers for support , he thinks that giving away 0.01BTC to forum members is the best way to get incoming scam.
I suggest DT members to pressurize admin of PD to be modest and reply to people's comment and grievances.


I thought Stunna was a female?
And neither Stuna nor Edward have returned my emails.
Such a shame they would do something like this for a small amount of their money.
i see Micro replying here , it is good , but stunna is really a shit he/she baits the forum with free 0.01BTC and gets eventually a lot in return from people like you.

I wish if Micro can convenience to change his/her(stunna) nature and be polite and responsive towards customers.

I created my PD account and lost its password , i asked it to stunna and Edward and they never reply to it. it has been over 15-20 days.
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May 31, 2016, 01:38:40 AM
#51
To be frank i must say that stunna is a shit , he never replies to his customers for support , he thinks that giving away 0.01BTC to forum members is the best way to get incoming scam.
I suggest DT members to pressurize admin of PD to be modest and reply to people's comment and grievances.


I thought Stunna was a female?
And neither Stuna nor Edward have returned my emails.
Such a shame they would do something like this for a small amount of their money.
legendary
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May 31, 2016, 01:37:40 AM
#50
To be frank i must say that stunna is a shit , he never replies to his customers for support , he thinks that giving away 0.01BTC to forum members is the best way to get incoming scam.
I suggest DT members to pressurize admin of PD to be modest and reply to people's comment and grievances.
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May 31, 2016, 01:29:48 AM
#49

So why didn't my balance update? 4 minutes is plenty of time for me to withdraw, which is what I planned to do. I was constantly refreshing between that time and my balance didn't update a single time, so explain that.

"Your deposit was credited at:   2016-05-28 16:33:35 and first cashout was made at 16:35:34 - 28/05/16 for 12.95 btc , second one was at    16:38:00 - 28/05/16 , both from different IP"

2 minutes from deposit to 1st cashout, 4,5 minutes from deposit to 2nd cashout. If you indeed did refresh in intervals smaller than 2 minutes, there had to be a point where balance changed.
If it didn't, then it sure sounds bad, or someone is not telling the truth.

I trust primedice, but it would be nice to see a bit wider explanation as to what exactly happened.

It honestly never updated in front of me. I complained a bunch of times in the chat asking why I didn't get my deposit whilst constantly refreshing.
It's not a fault on my side, it's a fault in primedice' deposit system.
legendary
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May 30, 2016, 08:23:53 PM
#48
So, I have a question: does PrimeDice allow a single account to login from different IP's simultaneously?  I've been an online gambler for a long time and that just seems like a point of failure for security purposes.

And, was coinbase also involved in the second transaction?

Lastly, OP, is it possible that your Bct and PB accounts have similar credentials?  There was an awful lot of banter in your threads trying to get you to push your transaction back as proof.  Maybe, you could match a few IP's and narrow stuff down a little.

legendary
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May 30, 2016, 06:49:59 PM
#47
Sounds like a inverse scam to me to make PD lose reputation. I simply will not believe that a newbie posted that he got scammed by PD who have probably gave away almost thousands of BTC since it's inception. For all we know, op could have withdrawn the balance himself and try to fake a btc steal by PD to get back "13btc".

I am amused that op thinks there ain't malware of any sort for malware devices  Roll Eyes

OP seems so angry that his 13 btc got stolen by PD, when 13btc to primedice high rollers are like peanuts lost

There are always two sides of a story.

In other news, I am satoshi. Get it?  Roll Eyes

Yes ure right, but we can only speculate what happened. Given the fact that the guy doesn't seam as usual scammers and more likely that he's been robbed by someone,
it would be nice if the matter was approached a tad more serious on the PD side.
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May 30, 2016, 06:29:54 PM
#46
Sounds like a inverse scam to me to make PD lose reputation. I simply will not believe that a newbie posted that he got scammed by PD who have probably gave away almost thousands of BTC since it's inception. For all we know, op could have withdrawn the balance himself and try to fake a btc steal by PD to get back "13btc".

I am amused that op thinks there ain't malware of any sort for malware devices  Roll Eyes

OP seems so angry that his 13 btc got stolen by PD, when 13btc to primedice high rollers are like peanuts lost

There are always two sides of a story.

In other news, I am satoshi. Get it?  Roll Eyes
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May 30, 2016, 06:14:07 PM
#45
At the end of the day who knows what goes on behind closed doors, Ive lost over 60 btc on primedice in the last year,
To be honest I have been skeptical about there system and in paticular there "max bet" system that just seems too pre programed to my feeling...

But this is a land where words are words and actions are actions.. the ball is in your court my friend. do as you wish.

That doesnt make any sense. You should learn about how provably fair works and if you are skeptical make sure to verify every single bet you make.
Man, save this verification and provably fair shit and nonsense. You guys have used those words to scam thousands of btcs.
And pleasrme dont smartly try to deviate from the main topic. Main topic is uou scammed him of 13btc. Talk about that. Dont talk provably fair here. There can always be a new thread for that.
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May 30, 2016, 06:04:41 PM
#44

So why didn't my balance update? 4 minutes is plenty of time for me to withdraw, which is what I planned to do. I was constantly refreshing between that time and my balance didn't update a single time, so explain that.

"Your deposit was credited at:   2016-05-28 16:33:35 and first cashout was made at 16:35:34 - 28/05/16 for 12.95 btc , second one was at    16:38:00 - 28/05/16 , both from different IP"

2 minutes from deposit to 1st cashout, 4,5 minutes from deposit to 2nd cashout. If you indeed did refresh in intervals smaller than 2 minutes, there had to be a point where balance changed.
If it didn't, then it sure sounds bad, or someone is not telling the truth.

I trust primedice, but it would be nice to see a bit wider explanation as to what exactly happened.
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May 30, 2016, 06:03:04 PM
#43
At the end of the day who knows what goes on behind closed doors, Ive lost over 60 btc on primedice in the last year,
To be honest I have been skeptical about there system and in paticular there "max bet" system that just seems too pre programed to my feeling...

But this is a land where words are words and actions are actions.. the ball is in your court my friend. do as you wish.
Its not about how u feel.the site is a scam. If they see that they cant rig you, they come upp with other ways to steal your coins like they just did to this fellow.
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May 30, 2016, 05:10:42 PM
#42

So why didn't my balance update? 4 minutes is plenty of time for me to withdraw, which is what I planned to do. I was constantly refreshing between that time and my balance didn't update a single time, so explain that.
legendary
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May 30, 2016, 05:10:13 PM
#41
At the end of the day who knows what goes on behind closed doors, Ive lost over 60 btc on primedice in the last year,
To be honest I have been skeptical about there system and in paticular there "max bet" system that just seems too pre programed to my feeling...

But this is a land where words are words and actions are actions.. the ball is in your court my friend. do as you wish.

That doesnt make any sense. You should learn about how provably fair works and if you are skeptical make sure to verify every single bet you make.
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May 30, 2016, 02:52:20 PM
#40
Sounds like whoever was pushing to "show proof" of many btc by depositing into the balance to show it, is a smart person who got the OP to deposit all his 13 btc, then just ripped him off, already knowing he had access to his account, hense the 2 diff ip addresses. Sounds pretty clear cut to me.

If someone asked me to make a big deposit to "prove" my holdings, I would know there was something sketchy going on, its pretty obviously a phish.

It is the same as if I knew I had the op's login credentials, I see him in the chat room, and I challenge him to make a deposit to show me he has more than just dust to his name, he gets his ego in a bunch and makes a nice 13btc deposit then while trying to show it off to everyone, I already am in his account emptying it out. When he finally realizes what happened, I am long gone.
legendary
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May 30, 2016, 02:46:00 PM
#39
Sorry to hear man you lost funds Roll Eyes

I find it really funny that people jumping in to conclusion that always user of let say PD or localbitcoins is at fault of any loss.

Funny part is that easy is to claim "hacked /malware computer of user" while user when accusing with simple facts and proofs is called names and always is take as the guilty one. What if very complicated software failed on PD side? User only must log in and deposit and play. All hard "work" is on PD side.
But let's face it, every system/script have flaws/errors.

not saying that i believe OP but let see what happened to other guy using localbitcoins.com which lost over 60BTC.

http://bristolbtc.blogspot.co.uk/

Again please dont take it wrong way, the guy who complained there is pro trader and he has history of being always straight.

https://localbitcoins.com/forums/#!/general-discussion:odd-lbc-wallet-thefts

Yet again responses on lbc forum suggest he done something wrong.

My point is please do not jump on band wagon and shout as one person to OP that's his fault without getting all things right and square.

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May 30, 2016, 02:32:31 PM
#38
It's still stupid to deposit 13 bitcoins only to show proof he have the money!!
Why he did not only sign his wallet if he was about to brag about it!?
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May 30, 2016, 01:47:46 PM
#37
At the end of the day who knows what goes on behind closed doors, Ive lost over 60 btc on primedice in the last year,
To be honest I have been skeptical about there system and in paticular there "max bet" system that just seems too pre programed to my feeling...

But this is a land where words are words and actions are actions.. the ball is in your court my friend. do as you wish.
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May 30, 2016, 01:35:11 PM
#36
Obviously it would be impossible for OP to give proof. What would exactly qualify as proof? It would be impossible for PD to post proof too. They could show proof that the IPs were different, but that could mean either compromised, OP on VPN or in theory PD employee. So not really proof.

I don't know OP at all. But I did see him in another chat and I do estimate that he is telling the truth here. That being said, with the trust record of PD, I also think they tell the truth.

Overall, one of the most likely reasons still seems a phishing site to me. I told OP that before, but I just want to emphasize that being on iOS doesn't help against phishing. You could have google-ed for PD and clicked a google ad on top that links to a PD phishing site. Or you could have clicked some link in a chat that linked to a fake phishing PD site. Although I am sure you disagree with this theory, you could perhaps check the browser history for all sites you visited?



BTW, the policy of not refunding compromised accounts is an obvious one. You have to understand that this would open up opportunities for scammers to claim the same thing. I am absolutely not saying that you are doing that, just explaining why they cannot really give refunds for that.

Still.. trying to find the cause of the (potential) compromising, seems good to me. GL and sorry for loss, either way.
I lost 0,3 btc on primedice as well,the instant the money showed up,someone withdrew to a different bitcoin address.
My computer is safe as well as my password.
Also,I'd like to say that this is the first time I visited PD,so I could not have fallen victim to phishing attempts.
I decided not to pursue the matter further,because the amount that I lost was trivial.However if I had lost 13 bitcoins,I would be pretty pissed off.
Anyways what the guy I quoted is saying is pretty on spot,I realise they cannot do anything,because this is the internet.If someone genuinely gets his refund,then 50 more cases will popup,falsely claiming that they were hacked too.
Also there is not definitive evidence on either side.
There's a wise saying that says "where there's smoke,there's fire".Multiple cases of people getting hacked are not random and isolated incidents.
Something is up with primedice,and I would strongly suggest protecting your account.
I would like to wish good luck on the OP,however i'm not sure primedice can do anything other than making sure their website is 100% safe.
One final thought,is that the "scammer" probably isn't affiliated with primedice.A website such as theirs,makes tons of money every day,so it would be obvious that risking the site's reputation is totally not worth it on the long run.
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May 30, 2016, 11:21:33 AM
#35
Hey,

You can keep going on and on. Its a fact that you got your account compromised. And there is no way we would ever refund that.

Primedice deals with 100s of btc on balance of many players every single day , we paid out hufflepuff 2000+ btc just because we could not provide proof that he is exploiting.

We have players with 500+ profits .

One of them is MrVicenzo.

It would be very very stupid for us to steal 13 btc from anybody and ruin ours impeccable reputation for being fair and no1 dice site on the planet.


So please stop spreading bullshit about us when you are well aware that you got compromised.
In ours topic you pointed to a user and said you are pretty sure he has your balance.

But you said it's not, I was curious.

If you can afford to pay a cheater over 2,000 BTC, why the fuck can't you pay someone who legit lost their money unfairly 13 BTC? Even half of that would make me happy!

I start to lose my patience here!h
Where the F U C K is your PROOF that primedice scammed you!?
A couple of txid's is NOT a proof at all!
Post real evidence or just go away please

Alright you fucking third world scum bag, what PROOF IF ENOUGH FOR YOUR FUCKING EYES?
DO YOU NOT REALISE THE WHOLE REASON IM IN THIS FUCKING MESS IS BECAUSE OF CUNTS LIKE YOU BEGGING FOR PROOF ALL THE FUCKING TIME? IM SO SICK OF THIS SHIT. IF ALL THE BEGGARS WERENT BEGGING ME TO SHOW PROOF I WOUOLDNT HAVE LOST MY 13 FUCKING BITCOIN. NOW GO AHEAD AND FUCKING TELL ME, WHAT PROOF DO YOU WANT.

Ok so only because you post a couple of txid and other bullshit it's a solid proof you got scammed by primedice?
I can just say your own fault to transfer 13 bitcoins to a gambling website!
you messed up now you pay the price for this

How the FUCK is it my fault? Isn't PRIMEDICE the #1 gambling website? So why the fuvj is it not safe to deposit. Don't act like you're perfect, if this was you in the same situation, you would probably suicide.

I not act like i am perfect but not that stupid to deposit 13 bitcoins
You could split it up
But you only did the deposit to proof you have the coins and this is stupid!
Man if you don't have something to say , just shut the fuck up.. I have deposited more than 80btc in a gbling site and it went good. The fact that u can't afford 13btc shouldnt make you hate him indirectly and make it look like he is stupid to have deposited that. Most of you talking trash have never deposited up to 1 Btc before so u don't know the pain of loosing that much Btc. Get ur ass out of this topic if u have nothing reasonable to say

Yes and now?

Only because you deposit 80 bitcoins means what exactly ?

Op have fucked up and now he pay the price for this easy and simple!
Besides of this he ONLY did the deposit to show he have the bitcoins and this is just idiotic and dumb!
He could simply sign his wallet to proof that he have the coins!
Anyway why he needed to proof this? only to show how big his e-penis is?!
I have as well over 10 bitcoins and you think if you call me a lier i will just send them to xy as proof?!
LOL this topic is usless!
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