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legendary
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Last month was a little special I'd say Cheesy

Very nice to read the follow up to the story. Wink

In case someone is interested:

http://trilema.com/2014/mpoe-february-2014-statement/
legendary
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1davout
Am I calculating it right that S.MPOE has a P/E of about 8.5 for the past month? (.00083/(12*.000081) That seems pretty reasonable.

Last month was a little special I'd say Cheesy
hero member
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It's all fun and games until somebody loses an eye
Am I calculating it right that S.MPOE has a P/E of about 8.5 for the past month? (.00083/(12*.000081) That seems pretty reasonable.
hero member
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It's all fun and games until somebody loses an eye
OK, I am not sure where to ask this question, this seems like as good a place as any?

Is there an easy way to access the bid/ask prices of the MPEx assets? What I want is a way to dump the values into a python script?

http://mpex.co/mpex-mktdepth.php

Awesome, thanks.
legendary
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1davout
OK, I am not sure where to ask this question, this seems like as good a place as any?

Is there an easy way to access the bid/ask prices of the MPEx assets? What I want is a way to dump the values into a python script?

http://mpex.co/mpex-mktdepth.php
hero member
Activity: 756
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It's all fun and games until somebody loses an eye
OK, I am not sure where to ask this question, this seems like as good a place as any?

Is there an easy way to access the bid/ask prices of the MPEx assets? What I want is a way to dump the values into a python script?
hero member
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Where've all the thetans gone
Long time passing
Where've all the thetans gone
Long time ago....
full member
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I forgot scamming retards takes skill. A skill ron l popescu has mastered.
sigh, still nothing new
just more hate for popescu
get trolled by haiku
hero member
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I am pretty butthurt about all the pyramid schemes I didn't get involved in early you're right. How early did you get in? How much btc have you made off your recruits?

Here's some interesting actual data: the original shares were sold through a blind placement. They went for 9085 satoshi on the first round and 2433 satoshi on the 2nd round. Currently the shares trade around 90,000 satoshi. That's a 1000% to 4000% increase over less than two years, and some off the cuff calculation would indicate S.MPOE has generated just about a billion dollars' worth of new wealth for its holders.

Which favorably compares with the sum total of all Bitcoin related ventures, plus all alt-chains, plus everything else. MPEx is, quite simply, the biggest thing that ever happened in this space.

On the other score: MPEx has been humiliating the SEC in public since 2012. Moreover, the DFS itself came to the conclusion that MP's 2012 article on the topic of Bitcoin regulation is both sound and controls the matter. That's right: it took the USG two years of hewing and hawing to finally work up the balls to come out and plainly state "yeah, that MP guy actually knew what's what way before we figured it out, you should probably just listen to him in the future because we're 12 and what is this."

Sooner or later you're going to just learn to deal with it: there are huge things in Bitcoin, whether you agree or not, whether you understand how they work or not. They don't give a shit about you, or your government. Again, whether you agree or not. Such is life.

Wow your ponzi has increased in value from when it sold ~1 million shares to the point where it sold 150 million? What about all those idiots along the way that didn't get in at ipo and bought/are still buying absurdly overpriced shares in this ponzi?

If I can find 1 idiot to buy 1 share of my company (which will have 100 trillion shares) for 0.01btc does that mean my company is worth 1 trillion bitcoins? Of course not.

You must be huffing paint if you think mpex generated 1 billion usd worth of wealth for its users. That statement is an flat out lie and you know it. You moved around 14k worth of wealth last year and your ponzi (with 85% shares unsold to public) is evaluated at 1 billion usd.

You are right about mpex being the biggest thing in this space. But only in the space of bitcoin ponzi schemes.

Your blog posts are so embarrassing it is honestly a waste of time reading. You pretend that bitcoin cannot be regulated by the SEC because it is virtual money. That statement might hold grounds with the armchair investors/mpex cult members but anyone not involved in this ponzi will tell you that that statement is bullshit and would never hold up in court.

Everything you say is carefully constructed to deceive those with a lack of understanding of real world finance. But I guess it takes 30btc for some to learn a life lesson (on how to lose 30btc or more).

Since predicting the most obvious shit elevates one to the status of "god of bitcoin finance" and I predicted that all of mpex revenue is from new recruits does that make me a god in your eyes?
So why haven't you?

I can but I would only profit 0.01 not 1 trillion btc like mpoe pr perceives. And I prefer to earn my btc not steal it from naive investors.
At least you are honest in the estimation of your skill level.   Wink

I forgot scamming retards takes skill. A skill ron l popescu has mastered.
legendary
Activity: 896
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First 100% Liquid Stablecoin Backed by Gold
I am pretty butthurt about all the pyramid schemes I didn't get involved in early you're right. How early did you get in? How much btc have you made off your recruits?

Here's some interesting actual data: the original shares were sold through a blind placement. They went for 9085 satoshi on the first round and 2433 satoshi on the 2nd round. Currently the shares trade around 90,000 satoshi. That's a 1000% to 4000% increase over less than two years, and some off the cuff calculation would indicate S.MPOE has generated just about a billion dollars' worth of new wealth for its holders.

Which favorably compares with the sum total of all Bitcoin related ventures, plus all alt-chains, plus everything else. MPEx is, quite simply, the biggest thing that ever happened in this space.

On the other score: MPEx has been humiliating the SEC in public since 2012. Moreover, the DFS itself came to the conclusion that MP's 2012 article on the topic of Bitcoin regulation is both sound and controls the matter. That's right: it took the USG two years of hewing and hawing to finally work up the balls to come out and plainly state "yeah, that MP guy actually knew what's what way before we figured it out, you should probably just listen to him in the future because we're 12 and what is this."

Sooner or later you're going to just learn to deal with it: there are huge things in Bitcoin, whether you agree or not, whether you understand how they work or not. They don't give a shit about you, or your government. Again, whether you agree or not. Such is life.

Wow your ponzi has increased in value from when it sold ~1 million shares to the point where it sold 150 million? What about all those idiots along the way that didn't get in at ipo and bought/are still buying absurdly overpriced shares in this ponzi?

If I can find 1 idiot to buy 1 share of my company (which will have 100 trillion shares) for 0.01btc does that mean my company is worth 1 trillion bitcoins? Of course not.

You must be huffing paint if you think mpex generated 1 billion usd worth of wealth for its users. That statement is an flat out lie and you know it. You moved around 14k worth of wealth last year and your ponzi (with 85% shares unsold to public) is evaluated at 1 billion usd.

You are right about mpex being the biggest thing in this space. But only in the space of bitcoin ponzi schemes.

Your blog posts are so embarrassing it is honestly a waste of time reading. You pretend that bitcoin cannot be regulated by the SEC because it is virtual money. That statement might hold grounds with the armchair investors/mpex cult members but anyone not involved in this ponzi will tell you that that statement is bullshit and would never hold up in court.

Everything you say is carefully constructed to deceive those with a lack of understanding of real world finance. But I guess it takes 30btc for some to learn a life lesson (on how to lose 30btc or more).

Since predicting the most obvious shit elevates one to the status of "god of bitcoin finance" and I predicted that all of mpex revenue is from new recruits does that make me a god in your eyes?
So why haven't you?

I can but I would only profit 0.01 not 1 trillion btc like mpoe pr perceives. And I prefer to earn my btc not steal it from naive investors.
At least you are honest in the estimation of your skill level.   Wink
hero member
Activity: 770
Merit: 509
I am pretty butthurt about all the pyramid schemes I didn't get involved in early you're right. How early did you get in? How much btc have you made off your recruits?

Here's some interesting actual data: the original shares were sold through a blind placement. They went for 9085 satoshi on the first round and 2433 satoshi on the 2nd round. Currently the shares trade around 90,000 satoshi. That's a 1000% to 4000% increase over less than two years, and some off the cuff calculation would indicate S.MPOE has generated just about a billion dollars' worth of new wealth for its holders.

Which favorably compares with the sum total of all Bitcoin related ventures, plus all alt-chains, plus everything else. MPEx is, quite simply, the biggest thing that ever happened in this space.

On the other score: MPEx has been humiliating the SEC in public since 2012. Moreover, the DFS itself came to the conclusion that MP's 2012 article on the topic of Bitcoin regulation is both sound and controls the matter. That's right: it took the USG two years of hewing and hawing to finally work up the balls to come out and plainly state "yeah, that MP guy actually knew what's what way before we figured it out, you should probably just listen to him in the future because we're 12 and what is this."

Sooner or later you're going to just learn to deal with it: there are huge things in Bitcoin, whether you agree or not, whether you understand how they work or not. They don't give a shit about you, or your government. Again, whether you agree or not. Such is life.

Wow your ponzi has increased in value from when it sold ~1 million shares to the point where it sold 150 million? What about all those idiots along the way that didn't get in at ipo and bought/are still buying absurdly overpriced shares in this ponzi?

If I can find 1 idiot to buy 1 share of my company (which will have 100 trillion shares) for 0.01btc does that mean my company is worth 1 trillion bitcoins? Of course not.

You must be huffing paint if you think mpex generated 1 billion usd worth of wealth for its users. That statement is an flat out lie and you know it. You moved around 14k worth of wealth last year and your ponzi (with 85% shares unsold to public) is evaluated at 1 billion usd.

You are right about mpex being the biggest thing in this space. But only in the space of bitcoin ponzi schemes.

Your blog posts are so embarrassing it is honestly a waste of time reading. You pretend that bitcoin cannot be regulated by the SEC because it is virtual money. That statement might hold grounds with the armchair investors/mpex cult members but anyone not involved in this ponzi will tell you that that statement is bullshit and would never hold up in court.

Everything you say is carefully constructed to deceive those with a lack of understanding of real world finance. But I guess it takes 30btc for some to learn a life lesson (on how to lose 30btc or more).

Since predicting the most obvious shit elevates one to the status of "god of bitcoin finance" and I predicted that all of mpex revenue is from new recruits does that make me a god in your eyes?
So why haven't you?

I can but I would only profit 0.01 not 1 trillion btc like mpoe pr perceives. And I prefer to earn my btc not steal it from naive investors.
legendary
Activity: 896
Merit: 1006
First 100% Liquid Stablecoin Backed by Gold
I am pretty butthurt about all the pyramid schemes I didn't get involved in early you're right. How early did you get in? How much btc have you made off your recruits?

Here's some interesting actual data: the original shares were sold through a blind placement. They went for 9085 satoshi on the first round and 2433 satoshi on the 2nd round. Currently the shares trade around 90,000 satoshi. That's a 1000% to 4000% increase over less than two years, and some off the cuff calculation would indicate S.MPOE has generated just about a billion dollars' worth of new wealth for its holders.

Which favorably compares with the sum total of all Bitcoin related ventures, plus all alt-chains, plus everything else. MPEx is, quite simply, the biggest thing that ever happened in this space.

On the other score: MPEx has been humiliating the SEC in public since 2012. Moreover, the DFS itself came to the conclusion that MP's 2012 article on the topic of Bitcoin regulation is both sound and controls the matter. That's right: it took the USG two years of hewing and hawing to finally work up the balls to come out and plainly state "yeah, that MP guy actually knew what's what way before we figured it out, you should probably just listen to him in the future because we're 12 and what is this."

Sooner or later you're going to just learn to deal with it: there are huge things in Bitcoin, whether you agree or not, whether you understand how they work or not. They don't give a shit about you, or your government. Again, whether you agree or not. Such is life.

Wow your ponzi has increased in value from when it sold ~1 million shares to the point where it sold 150 million? What about all those idiots along the way that didn't get in at ipo and bought/are still buying absurdly overpriced shares in this ponzi?

If I can find 1 idiot to buy 1 share of my company (which will have 100 trillion shares) for 0.01btc does that mean my company is worth 1 trillion bitcoins? Of course not.

You must be huffing paint if you think mpex generated 1 billion usd worth of wealth for its users. That statement is an flat out lie and you know it. You moved around 14k worth of wealth last year and your ponzi (with 85% shares unsold to public) is evaluated at 1 billion usd.

You are right about mpex being the biggest thing in this space. But only in the space of bitcoin ponzi schemes.

Your blog posts are so embarrassing it is honestly a waste of time reading. You pretend that bitcoin cannot be regulated by the SEC because it is virtual money. That statement might hold grounds with the armchair investors/mpex cult members but anyone not involved in this ponzi will tell you that that statement is bullshit and would never hold up in court.

Everything you say is carefully constructed to deceive those with a lack of understanding of real world finance. But I guess it takes 30btc for some to learn a life lesson (on how to lose 30btc or more).

Since predicting the most obvious shit elevates one to the status of "god of bitcoin finance" and I predicted that all of mpex revenue is from new recruits does that make me a god in your eyes?
So why haven't you?
legendary
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1davout
According to that chatlog the large option purchases were puts not calls...so whoever this person is, is betting that the USD price of BTC is less then $500, $470, etc. How much total did this person pay in options?

It's in the log

They are written Puts sold to MPEX. Thus, the opposite of what you said.

Yep, that was the part I missed, I thought they were bought

hero member
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According to that chatlog the large option purchases were puts not calls...so whoever this person is, is betting that the USD price of BTC is less then $500, $470, etc. How much total did this person pay in options?

It's in the log

They are written Puts sold to MPEX. Thus, the opposite of what you said.
legendary
Activity: 1372
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1davout
According to that chatlog the large option purchases were puts not calls...so whoever this person is, is betting that the USD price of BTC is less then $500, $470, etc. How much total did this person pay in options?

It's in the log
full member
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According to that chatlog the large option purchases were puts not calls...so whoever this person is, is betting that the USD price of BTC is less then $500, $470, etc. How much total did this person pay in options?
legendary
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1davout
Somebody is betting big that btc will hit 5000 USD/BTC? Do I have that right? So if BTC hits 5000, MP loses a bunch of money but we are all rich, if btc does not hit 5000 then MP (and his shareholders) make a bunch of money? Do I have that right?

It's the opposite.

Is it?

Isn't it? If you have the option to sell at a given strike, the option is worthless if the spot is above the strike and is profitable if the spot is below the strike (minus the purchase cost of the option).
hero member
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Somebody is betting big that btc will hit 5000 USD/BTC? Do I have that right? So if BTC hits 5000, MP loses a bunch of money but we are all rich, if btc does not hit 5000 then MP (and his shareholders) make a bunch of money? Do I have that right?

It's the opposite.

Is it?
legendary
Activity: 1372
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1davout
Somebody is betting big that btc will hit 5000 USD/BTC? Do I have that right? So if BTC hits 5000, MP loses a bunch of money but we are all rich, if btc does not hit 5000 then MP (and his shareholders) make a bunch of money? Do I have that right?

It's the opposite.
hero member
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You all should listen to Chris Odom's talk at BTCMIAMI on January 25th 2014.

Entities like MPEX that require you to trust them will cease to exist. Do yourself a HUGE favor: http://letstalkbitcoin.com/chris-odom-on-opentransactions/#.Uu-8ufldV1Y

Yeah dude, totally, shit will cease to exist because some derp said something on his vlog somewhere. This is definitely how things work.

PS. Apparently you did get a lol out of MP. Well done, want a cookie?
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