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hero member
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This is all sort of irrelevant because it doesn't matter who is running this scheme. He could be anonymous and it would not be any less of a scam.
Try to be more consistent please


Oh yea I forgot a picture of a bunch of people at a table = proof mr popescu definitely exists..

I love how every time a point is made the mpex beleibers go off on a tangent to avoid the real issue which is not that mr p could run off with his fat stack of cash at any time.

The real issue is that mpex is absurdly over-valued and requires the recruitment of idiots/gamblers to supply its revenue.

I would love to know what would happen without the 30btc fee and the coinbr referral squad. I doubt it would be profitable because there would be nobody to recruit new cult members.
hero member
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Psi laju, karavani prolaze.
"In the middle with the beard is MPOE-PR." Is mpoe pr the same as mr popescu?

The blind on the forum seem to think so.
hero member
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Does anyone know if mr popescu is even a real person? Has anyone met him in real life and verified identity?

Yes, and yes.

Sorry I spoiled the fun.


"In the middle with the beard is MPOE-PR." Is mpoe pr the same as mr popescu? Also this pic proves that a group of people sat down together in a room. What a waste of my precious trilemma credits.

If mr popescu disappeared today how would you find him?

This is all sort of irrelevant because it doesn't matter who is running this scheme. He could be anonymous and it would not be any less of a scam.
hero member
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Psi laju, karavani prolaze.
Does anyone know if mr popescu is even a real person? Has anyone met him in real life and verified identity?

Yes, and yes.

Sorry I spoiled the fun.
hero member
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You're too new to be aware of most of the basic facts of the matter, such as the basic fact that MPEx was here before Asicminer, and is still here (showing gains, apparently?!) as Asicminer is vanishing into thin air (not least because of their own poor management skills).

Somehow a steady decrease in dividends equates to showing gains? And being around a whole a year before asicminer makes you a much more mature company.

Somehow paying out 5 times ipo in dividends counts as a failure?

Its not exactly fair to compare mpex to a real company like asicminer just because you made a few thousand btc from gamblers the past year.

Look at the prices of the shares: MPOE has consistently gone up, Asicminer went into a huge bubble and is almost down to its IPO price, losing about 90% off its high. In bitcoinland, lasting one year is significant.

Asicminer was not a failure for people who bought at the IPO price, but what about people who bought when the price was above 5 btc per share?

Which is a real company? Which one is run by an anonymous internet persona who sometimes deigns to communicate and which is run by a person who states their identity and signs it with a gpg signature to prove it and gives monthly financial reports signed by that same gpg signature? Which has a potential for growth in the future and which is withering away?

Just because a few people bought at 4btc/share when AM had a monopoly on the asic market doesn't mean AM is worth any more or less. AM is about to release next gen hardware that will hopefully bring back 10% network hashrate. Potential growth and dividends are huge.

Mpex on the other hand is a casino that is getting more and more expensive to join with less and less rich gamblers using the service. Explain to me how this can possibly result in future growth?

For mpex to be worth 1 million btc @ 30% apr it would need to increase profit around 50000% compared to last quarters. Simply ridiculous and will never happen.

For AM to grow it needs to sell hardware in a market full of people looking for competitive hardware.

For mpex to grow it needs a steady stream of new users/gamblers which will bet ~100 times the amount of last years gamblers (10000 times in usd)

Also gpg signature doesn't mean shit imo. Does anyone know if mr popescu is even a real person? Has anyone met him in real life and verified identity? I bet mr P could disappear with all the money right now without any problems. Being anonymous is an option in the bitcoin world (albeit a risky option for investors).
sr. member
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I wonder how the discussion would look like if there were no coinbr referrals.

Fact is that the only stock actively traded on mpex is S.MPOE and in recent months the main source of income for S.MPOE were registration fees for mpex.
sr. member
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And it made it even without any basic css work, amazing.

The Bitbet site is elegant, obviously they have css knowledge.
hero member
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It's all fun and games until somebody loses an eye

You're too new to be aware of most of the basic facts of the matter, such as the basic fact that MPEx was here before Asicminer, and is still here (showing gains, apparently?!) as Asicminer is vanishing into thin air (not least because of their own poor management skills).

Somehow a steady decrease in dividends equates to showing gains? And being around a whole a year before asicminer makes you a much more mature company.

Somehow paying out 5 times ipo in dividends counts as a failure?

Its not exactly fair to compare mpex to a real company like asicminer just because you made a few thousand btc from gamblers the past year.

Look at the prices of the shares: MPOE has consistently gone up, Asicminer went into a huge bubble and is almost down to its IPO price, losing about 90% off its high. In bitcoinland, lasting one year is significant.

Asicminer was not a failure for people who bought at the IPO price, but what about people who bought when the price was above 5 btc per share?

Which is a real company? Which one is run by an anonymous internet persona who sometimes deigns to communicate and which is run by a person who states their identity and signs it with a gpg signature to prove it and gives monthly financial reports signed by that same gpg signature? Which has a potential for growth in the future and which is withering away?
hero member
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Not if you want to sell it for bitcoins..

Fun fact: asicminer with 200k btc dividends past year is evaluated at 200k btc

mpex.co with 14k in dividends is valued at 1,000k btc

How can a dying company which has less than 1/10th asicminers profits be worth more than 5 times asicminer.

Does that make it 50 times more expensive than asicminer based on dividends alone?

Do you honestly think mpoe will pay out a significant percentage of share price in dividends over the next year or two? My guess is it doesn't even pay out 1% (or 10k btc) in the next year.

Who knows maybe some extremely rich idiots will join and blow a few thousand btc gambling. Doubt it though since the increasing cost of joining is going to exclude potential customers (idiots) from joining.

You're too new to be aware of most of the basic facts of the matter, such as the basic fact that MPEx was here before Asicminer, and is still here (showing gains, apparently?!) as Asicminer is vanishing into thin air (not least because of their own poor management skills).

There's a lot more stuff you just don't know about, is all.

Somehow a steady decrease in dividends equates to showing gains? And being around a whole a year before asicminer makes you a much more mature company.

Somehow paying out 5 times ipo in dividends counts as a failure?

Is there more stuff I don't know about? I presume you and the all mighty mr popescu know about everything so maybe you could enlighten us simple minded folk.

Its not exactly fair to compare mpex to a real company like asicminer just because you made a few thousand btc from gamblers the past year.
hero member
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Not if you want to sell it for bitcoins..

Fun fact: asicminer with 200k btc dividends past year is evaluated at 200k btc

mpex.co with 14k in dividends is valued at 1,000k btc

How can a dying company which has less than 1/10th asicminers profits be worth more than 5 times asicminer.

Does that make it 50 times more expensive than asicminer based on dividends alone?

Do you honestly think mpoe will pay out a significant percentage of share price in dividends over the next year or two? My guess is it doesn't even pay out 1% (or 10k btc) in the next year.

Who knows maybe some extremely rich idiots will join and blow a few thousand btc gambling. Doubt it though since the increasing cost of joining is going to exclude potential customers (idiots) from joining.

You're too new to be aware of most of the basic facts of the matter, such as the basic fact that MPEx was here before Asicminer, and is still here (showing gains, apparently?!) as Asicminer is vanishing into thin air (not least because of their own poor management skills).

There's a lot more stuff you just don't know about, is all.
hero member
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And its not hard to be right every once in a while when you call every project a scam in a market with 95% scams. It certainly doesn't take 12btc per month to do that, especially when we have pankakke.
This is a fallacy.
The scams and failures haven't been all denounced - there are so many- and it has been explained why they are scams or why they will be a failure.
Moreover, so far it's not being right "once in a while" but all the fucking time.
You're not the only retard with that fallacy, sadly; I get that one all the time. In the end, PIF prevails.

But after not understanding finance, it's not surprising you don't understand statistics as well.

if you don' like people to call you misinformed, then don't try to scandalize
Pretty much. Your whole communication here is based on facts that are wrong and easily verified; you're undermining your case. The best arguments against MPEx and its securities on this thread are from people who disagree with you; crazy.


The one not understanding statistics is you. I understand that 95% of the "projects" on this forum are scams. Mpex included. What you don't understand is that when you bet scam with a 95% chance with a scam you will probably be right. You and Mr P do nothing besides cry scam every chance you get.

You are confusing finance with the wacky bullshit mr popescu invents.
legendary
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Scientology is dead on.
hero member
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I thought I read it costs $30,000 depends on the price of course, to sign up ?
Surely the 30BTC is a mis-print that has never been fixed. ?
People have paid? In todays rates ?

30btc fee has not changed and no plans to change it. According to mr p. is likely to increase in the future.

And yes apparently they made 820 btc from new users alone last quarter (out of 920btc total revenue)
legendary
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I thought I read it will cost around $30,000 to sign up ? I could not of.
Surely the 30BTC is a mis-print that has never been fixed. ?
People have paid? In todays rates ?

They still do..
full member
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I thought I read it will cost around $30,000 to sign up ? I could not of.
Surely the 30BTC is a mis-print that has never been fixed. ?
People have paid? In todays rates ?
hero member
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And as I said before using a broker is like using another service. You are not avoiding the mandatory 30btc reg fee by paying some guy who has already paid that fee a slightly lower fee so he can buy shares for you.

You can continue to hurl insults and state how misinformed I am in every post but its not going to do anything besides waste time.
30BTC on CoinBr.com would pay you (if used half by half) 65 years of monthly fees + 750 withdrawals. I don't see how you can call that "slightly lower".... if you don' like people to call you misinformed, then don't try to scandalize a perfectly reasonable business.

Using a broker as I said is basically the same as using a separate service. Last I checked mpex.co wasn't a perfectly reasonable business.

From what I've gathered it is a casino disguised as a stock exchange with ridiculous fees and a scammy business model.
sr. member
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GO http://bitcointa.lk !!! My new nick: jurov
And as I said before using a broker is like using another service. You are not avoiding the mandatory 30btc reg fee by paying some guy who has already paid that fee a slightly lower fee so he can buy shares for you.

You can continue to hurl insults and state how misinformed I am in every post but its not going to do anything besides waste time.
30BTC on CoinBr.com would pay you (if used half by half) 65 years of monthly fees + 750 withdrawals. I don't see how you can call that "slightly lower".... if you don' like people to call you misinformed, then don't try to scandalize a perfectly reasonable business.
hero member
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Explain to me why the fee to keep people out was only 200 usd a year ago?

For the same reason the amount Mircea pays MPOE-PR is the same amount today as last year: the value of the service is still worth x amount of BTC.

The forum needs people to give them a large dose of: "you're doing it wrong, don't be an idiot, you're going to lose all your money."  Invaluable advice for those that pay attention (and don't want to lose all their BTC).



The constant btc rate is more likely to create the delusion that mpex can scale with the rapidly increasing value of btc.

You are right about mircea giving invaluable advice. The advice is that if you think your going to make it rich gambling with options then you deserve to lose at least 30btc and/or all you can afford to give away to mr. p.

However I believe you are under the impression that his incoherent and deceptive blog posts have anything to do with the educating. I guess it does in a way since it allows mircea to find everyone stupid enough to fork over 30btc to gamble in a casino where the odds are greatly stacked against you no matter what you do unless your mr. popescu.

And its not hard to be right every once in a while when you call every project a scam in a market with 95% scams. It certainly doesn't take 12btc per month to do that, especially when we have pankakke.
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Explain to me why the fee to keep people out was only 200 usd a year ago?

For the same reason the amount Mircea pays MPOE-PR is the same amount today as last year: the value of the service is still worth x amount of BTC.

The forum needs people to give them a large dose of: "you're doing it wrong, don't be an idiot, you're going to lose all your money."  Invaluable advice for those that pay attention (and don't want to lose all their BTC).

hero member
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It's all fun and games until somebody loses an eye
I think you guys are right, its already crashing hard. It will be over by tomorrow.



Looks like if the trend holds we should see negative prices on S.MPOE by the end of the week!
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