MtGox withdrawal delays [Gathering] - page 126.

pedro82

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Quote from: zyk on February 17, 2014, 09:39:31 PM

Quote from: pedro82 on February 17, 2014, 08:34:33 AM

Quote from: severance26 on February 17, 2014, 08:26:48 AM

fiat jpy withdrawal submitted on jan 27th just went through this afternoon.

thats 14 business days. 6 day increase from one on jan 6 that was 8 business days.

Fiat SEPA withdrawal submitted on jan 7th just went through this mornig.

aren´t you pissed by not being able to buy some goxxies for under 200 Euros now???

Nops , How do you expect to withdraw your coins then ? What market is telling us is that the chances to withdraw your gox.coins is 200/500 = 40 % . maybe that's what you will be able to withdraw when they open coin windows.

zyk

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Quote from: pedro82 on February 17, 2014, 08:34:33 AM

Quote from: severance26 on February 17, 2014, 08:26:48 AM

fiat jpy withdrawal submitted on jan 27th just went through this afternoon.

thats 14 business days. 6 day increase from one on jan 6 that was 8 business days.

Fiat SEPA withdrawal submitted on jan 7th just went through this mornig.

aren´t you pissed by not being able to buy some goxxies for under 200 Euros now???

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Quote from: smoothie on February 17, 2014, 08:51:30 PM

Quote from: Erdogan on February 17, 2014, 08:29:17 PM

Quote from: pedro82 on February 17, 2014, 07:24:57 PM

Market needed some time to realise the meaning of gox statement, but now i think the message is received and understood. Despite gox situation the 17-2-2014 statement it self, is a dead sentence for gox. I believe that they will came up with something, to easy market, in the next few hours ...

Well they said that there will be a new statement on friday, but they did not explicitely say that they would not start bitcoin withdrawals before that. I wish they could be more explicit, really, say more.

So they are pulling the "announce the announcement date?"

Funny that, but there is nothing wrong with making an announcement and at the same time announce the next announcement. (The next yearly revenue and profit statement will come in one year...). But they could just inform us about the state of the affairs every day until everything is cleared.

zyk

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no, no please Mr. Sturle tell us that the money is still flowing......

or might he as well has canelled the withdrawl and bought some of those ridiculous cheap goxcoins ?

then all this money spent could only get the cat bouncing a tails length ?

then please please Mr Magictux do the trick of the moving coins again !

as the fat guy must sing first or this is still not the end yet....... Wink

BTCalexxx2.0

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To finally announce another announcement during the following week.

They should do Bitcoin a favor and just shamefully die. They are done in any case.

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Quote from: Erdogan on February 17, 2014, 08:29:17 PM

Quote from: pedro82 on February 17, 2014, 07:24:57 PM

Market needed some time to realise the meaning of gox statement, but now i think the message is received and understood. Despite gox situation the 17-2-2014 statement it self, is a dead sentence for gox. I believe that they will came up with something, to easy market, in the next few hours ...

Well they said that there will be a new statement on friday, but they did not explicitely say that they would not start bitcoin withdrawals before that. I wish they could be more explicit, really, say more.

So they are pulling the "announce the announcement date?"

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I'm curious, after 4 years, why no one knows some of the wallets that Gox owns. Would it have not been difficult to follow some of these and make some educated guesses at which wallets belonged to Gox?

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Quote from: pedro82 on February 17, 2014, 07:24:57 PM

Market needed some time to realise the meaning of gox statement, but now i think the message is received and understood. Despite gox situation the 17-2-2014 statement it self, is a dead sentence for gox. I believe that they will came up with something, to easy market, in the next few hours ...

Well they said that there will be a new statement on friday, but they did not explicitely say that they would not start bitcoin withdrawals before that. I wish they could be more explicit, really, say more.

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Quote from: Nagle on February 17, 2014, 05:47:50 PM

[...]

I've collected amounts in six figures across borders. It was a headache, but eventually they paid 100%. It took a lawyer and threats of taking them into bankruptcy, but I didn't have to go to court.

Yep.

US Navy suing TEPCO wot?

pedro82

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Quote from: ChrisJ on February 17, 2014, 07:36:01 PM

Quote from: smoothie on February 17, 2014, 01:52:57 PM

I would expect the daily/monthly BTC withdrawals to be something like 10BTC/day and 50 BTC/month. Anyone with a large account will be stuck there for a long long time.

I am also predicting 10BTC per day. They are pretty much doing what an insolvent bank would do but without actually coming out and saying it. Prepared to be proven wrong on this but I feel very strongly because this is hurting Bitcoin and was entirely avoidable.

The simplest way to serve their intent is a % limit withdrawal over each balance. so they will screw everybody !

Withdraw fiat while you still can !

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Quote from: smoothie on February 17, 2014, 01:52:57 PM

I would expect the daily/monthly BTC withdrawals to be something like 10BTC/day and 50 BTC/month. Anyone with a large account will be stuck there for a long long time.

I am also predicting 10BTC per day. They are pretty much doing what an insolvent bank would do but without actually coming out and saying it. Prepared to be proven wrong on this but I feel very strongly because this is hurting Bitcoin and was entirely avoidable.

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Quote from: rpietila on February 17, 2014, 05:35:14 PM

Quote from: smoothie on February 17, 2014, 04:07:15 PM

Protest at MTGOX update

According to law of Japan, the protesters have the right to stop the crime in progress by citizen's arrest. In this case, Mark is detained using necessary force to prevent him from leaving the scene and delivered to the police. It helps if the allegations against him are clearly written.

That sounds more like a lynch mob Cheesy

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Quote from: rpietila on February 17, 2014, 06:50:36 PM

Quote from: smoothie on February 17, 2014, 06:11:26 PM

Citizen's arrest based on what? You need to tread carefully when doing such a thing.

No, it's simple as pie. If you have grounds to believe that there is a crime going on, and that the criminal may be about to run with the money, you just detain him and leave the matter to the police for investigation. The police cannot fine you unless they find out that Mt.Gox is committing nothing criminal. In the complaint you outline the crimes in such technical precision that the police cannot find them not true without real investigation. So they will have to investigate.

Of course they can summarily decide that you are wrong and the arrest was unlawful, but if Mt.Gox ever is found guilty (which I would say is 99% sure at this point), you will triumph as a hero and Japan police and judicial system is shamed.

This is exactly why citizen's arrest prevails in the legal code. When it's taken away, then there is nothing more to do but whine.

Sounds like a gamble.
You have to remember that laws in Japan likely will be different than where you are from.

Sounds risky if you turn out to be unable to prove the crime has taken place.

pedro82

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Market needed some time to realise the meaning of gox statement, but now i think the message is received and understood. Despite gox situation the 17-2-2014 statement it self, is a dead sentence for gox. I believe that they will came up with something, to easy market, in the next few hours ...

pedro82

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Quote from: zyk on February 17, 2014, 06:58:59 PM

Lets go Japan to get our money out!! Cheesy

or better wait until Mr. Sturle confirms the arrival of his SEPA payment ? Wink

Hello Sturle this one is for you !

zyk

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Quote from: rpietila on February 17, 2014, 06:50:36 PM

Quote from: smoothie on February 17, 2014, 06:11:26 PM

Citizen's arrest based on what? You need to tread carefully when doing such a thing.

No, it's simple as pie. If you have grounds to believe that there is a crime going on, and that the criminal may be about to run with the money, you just detain him and leave the matter to the police for investigation. The police cannot fine you unless they find out that Mt.Gox is committing nothing criminal. In the complaint you outline the crimes in such technical precision that the police cannot find them not true without real investigation. So they will have to investigate.

Of course they can summarily decide that you are wrong and the arrest was unlawful, but if Mt.Gox ever is found guilty (which I would say is 99% sure at this point), you will triumph as a hero and Japan police and judicial system is shamed.

This is exactly why citizen's arrest prevails in the legal code. When it's taken away, then there is nothing more to do but whine.

so we need at least four citizens arresting the weighty magicien before he is walking through the magic wand... Cool

Lets go Japan to get our money out!! Cheesy

or better wait until Mr. Sturle confirms the arrival of his SEPA payment ? Wink

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Quote from: rpietila on February 17, 2014, 06:50:36 PM

Quote from: smoothie on February 17, 2014, 06:11:26 PM

Citizen's arrest based on what? You need to tread carefully when doing such a thing.

No, it's simple as pie. If you have grounds to believe that there is a crime going on, and that the criminal may be about to run with the money, you just detain him and leave the matter to the police for investigation. The police cannot fine you unless they find out that Mt.Gox is committing nothing criminal. In the complaint you outline the crimes in such technical precision that the police cannot find them not true without real investigation. So they will have to investigate.

Of course they can summarily decide that you are wrong and the arrest was unlawful, but if Mt.Gox ever is found guilty (which I would say is 99% sure at this point), you will triumph as a hero and Japan police and judicial system is shamed.

This is exactly why citizen's arrest prevails in the legal code. When it's taken away, then there is nothing more to do but whine.

It s strange that since a year now these guys are sitting on people s money basically rackettering their customers and they still run their business as usual

there is noone from their customers who have contacted the local authorities?

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Quote from: smoothie on February 17, 2014, 06:11:26 PM

Citizen's arrest based on what? You need to tread carefully when doing such a thing.

No, it's simple as pie. If you have grounds to believe that there is a crime going on, and that the criminal may be about to run with the money, you just detain him and leave the matter to the police for investigation. The police cannot fine you unless they find out that Mt.Gox is committing nothing criminal. In the complaint you outline the crimes in such technical precision that the police cannot find them not true without real investigation. So they will have to investigate.

Of course they can summarily decide that you are wrong and the arrest was unlawful, but if Mt.Gox ever is found guilty (which I would say is 99% sure at this point), you will triumph as a hero and Japan police and judicial system is shamed.

This is exactly why citizen's arrest prevails in the legal code. When it's taken away, then there is nothing more to do but whine.

zyk

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Quote from: Nagle on February 17, 2014, 05:47:50 PM

Many of you ~~suckers~~ people are not getting this: You are not going to be paid by Mt. Gox until you either apply serious pressure to them or they come up with some way to underpay you.

If Mt. Gox owes you money, you need to be suing in Delaware and complaining to the SEC and complaining to the Japan FSA and talking to a collection agency in Japan and talking to the Japan External Trade Organization and the financial press. You can apply pain to Mt. Gox until they pay up. And you should. Now. While the world financial press is watching.

I've collected amounts in six figures across borders. It was a headache, but eventually they paid 100%. It took a lawyer and threats of taking them into bankruptcy, but I didn't have to go to court.

or you lose 30 % in bitcoinbuilder make up 60 % afterwards selling at stamp and get out without paying up

to those pain in the ass laywers of which Mr Karpeles will have the best -ones financed out of our stolen funds...

thats what you get if a peer to peer idea gets corrupted by centralising it, only to be taken over by the sytem it meant

to change.....still praising assholes at the helm which are there cause any centralised authority sucks !

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Quote from: itsunderstood on February 17, 2014, 05:14:44 PM

[...]

When playing poker you should know who the sucker is at the table or else it is you !....goes the saying Wink

So when poker debt begins due to moneylaudercopspush you are saying, the dealer may be forced by pain, to deal off the ...bottom?

Let us say cryptocoin is not just another casino chip er derp, hahaha.

signed:

collection rackets
[/quote]

Mt gox is lock poker to a t speaking of poker analogies.

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