Thx for the constant updates in this. Nwoolls last we spoke about arguments for each gpu etc.
I know you said can set them up separate however when it comes to using -- lookup-gap -g mode you cant separate by comma for each card. any news on a feature been allowed for this to happen or would this need to be done in conf file in bfgminer if so how is this done as I have no idea using conf files or using the example conf.
Topic: MultiMiner: Any Miner, Any Where, on Any Device (Free, Open Source, Cross Platform) - page 127. (Read 827340 times)
December 23, 2013, 06:24:42 PM
December 23, 2013, 04:24:29 PM
As an update to my Cgminer to BFGminer migration of my GPU farm, I am nearly completed and did definitely have some challenges along the way, as it was similar to starting optimization all over again. My CGminer settings, did not provide the same hash rate with BFGminer without tweaking. I did have one or two machines, such as many of my Sapphire 7970 rigs, that moved over almost the same, and only dropped rates slightly.
I really appreciate you diving in and your feedback! If there was anything specific that you found you had to do and you have time I'd love to hear the details.
The impact so far is my 90,000 kh/s farm went to about 81,000 kh/s. I'm hoping to resolve this through further tweaks. I'm happy to be on the new software.
One question on the reported hash rate in Multiminer - Does the overall number shown, include the rate from the 1% donation as well? If it doesn't, that would help me understand where some of it went.
One question on the reported hash rate in Multiminer - Does the overall number shown, include the rate from the 1% donation as well? If it doesn't, that would help me understand where some of it went.
The hashrate is the total hashrate as reported by bfgminer and is not adjusted for any donations.
Let me know if there are any specific examples after you are done tweaking of a card working one way with cgminer and another with bfgminer and I'll be happy to investigate and attempt fixing.
I started hacking on the actual source for bfgminer this past weekend. I have it fully integrated into Xcode and have already made some minor driver modifications for my own hardware that have proven successful. As long as I have the same or similar hardware and the settings you are using and can reproduce it I am hopeful for fixing any outstanding performance differences.
December 23, 2013, 04:19:55 PM
As an update to my Cgminer to BFGminer migration of my GPU farm, I am nearly completed and did definitely have some challenges along the way, as it was similar to starting optimization all over again. My CGminer settings, did not provide the same hash rate with BFGminer without tweaking. I did have one or two machines, such as many of my Sapphire 7970 rigs, that moved over almost the same, and only dropped rates slightly.
The impact so far is my 90,000 kh/s farm went to about 81,000 kh/s. I'm hoping to resolve this through further tweaks. I'm happy to be on the new software.
One question on the reported hash rate in Multiminer - Does the overall number shown, include the rate from the 1% donation as well? If it doesn't, that would help me understand where some of it went.
Thanks!
The impact so far is my 90,000 kh/s farm went to about 81,000 kh/s. I'm hoping to resolve this through further tweaks. I'm happy to be on the new software.
One question on the reported hash rate in Multiminer - Does the overall number shown, include the rate from the 1% donation as well? If it doesn't, that would help me understand where some of it went.
Thanks!
December 23, 2013, 11:02:35 AM
What is the advised technique to use the bfgminer terminal interface to tune GPU settings and hashing performance, then return to using the MultiMiner interface for day to day mining control?
Should I install a new copy of bgfminer and use that? May I use the bfgminer that MultiMiner installed? Thanks!
Should I install a new copy of bgfminer and use that? May I use the bfgminer that MultiMiner installed? Thanks!
You can use the copy in the MultiMiners\Miners\bfgminer folder. It's just a standard bfgminer distribution. Once you have arguments that work for you put them into Settings > Advanced miner settings in MultiMiner.
December 23, 2013, 10:40:53 AM
What is the advised technique to use the bfgminer terminal interface to tune GPU settings and hashing performance, then return to using the MultiMiner interface for day to day mining control?
Should I install a new copy of bgfminer and use that? May I use the bfgminer that MultiMiner installed? Thanks!
ps. I'm asking because I'd like to go through the tuning suggested here https://github.com/luke-jr/bfgminer/blob/bfgminer/README.scrypt and here http://www.cryptobadger.com/2013/04/build-a-litecoin-mining-rig-optimization/ - and it seems that bgfminer provides the best interface for interactively changing settings and observing results.
Should I install a new copy of bgfminer and use that? May I use the bfgminer that MultiMiner installed? Thanks!
ps. I'm asking because I'd like to go through the tuning suggested here https://github.com/luke-jr/bfgminer/blob/bfgminer/README.scrypt and here http://www.cryptobadger.com/2013/04/build-a-litecoin-mining-rig-optimization/ - and it seems that bgfminer provides the best interface for interactively changing settings and observing results.
December 23, 2013, 05:00:35 AM
Thank you!!!
December 22, 2013, 07:23:50 PM
It's that time again! Version 2.2.8 is now available with the following (mostly minor) changes:
- Added support for running MultiMiner in Portable Mode by creating a file named "portable" in the MultiMiner directory (settings and log files will be created in the working directory instead of %appdata%)
- Fixed some context menus that weren't functional under Linux
- Minor visual updates on several platforms
- Fixed an error mining if the user has incomplete settings
- Improved startup speed (setting environment variables)
- Fixed notifications being cut off in Brief Mode
- Fixed the font used in the Advanced Settings dialog
December 22, 2013, 05:43:30 PM
HI,
I 'm having an error, and the aplication stop mining and crush.
The only solution is to uninstall the drivers and reinstaling them
The error said :
************** Texto de la excepción **************
System.NullReferenceException: Referencia a objeto no establecida como instancia de un objeto.
en MultiMiner.Xgminer.Miner.Launch(String reason) en d:\Data\Visual Studio Projects\Personal\MultiMiner\MultiMiner.Xgminer\Miner.cs:línea 146
en MultiMiner.Engine.MiningEngine.LaunchMinerProcess(MinerConfiguration minerConfiguration, String reason) en d:\Data\Visual Studio Projects\Personal\MultiMiner\MultiMiner.Engine\MiningEngine.cs:línea 588
en MultiMiner.Engine.MiningEngine.StartMining() en d:\Data\Visual Studio Projects\Personal\MultiMiner\MultiMiner.Engine\MiningEngine.cs:línea 547
en MultiMiner.Engine.MiningEngine.ApplyMiningStrategy(List`1 coinInformation) en d:\Data\Visual Studio Projects\Personal\MultiMiner\MultiMiner.Engine\MiningEngine.cs:línea 257
en MultiMiner.Win.MainForm.CheckAndApplyMiningStrategy() en d:\Data\Visual Studio Projects\Personal\MultiMiner\MultiMiner.Win\MainForm.cs:línea 2232
en MultiMiner.Win.MainForm.coinStatsTimer_Tick(Object sender, EventArgs e) en d:\Data\Visual Studio Projects\Personal\MultiMiner\MultiMiner.Win\MainForm.cs:línea 2221
en System.Windows.Forms.Timer.OnTick(EventArgs e)
en System.Windows.Forms.Timer.TimerNativeWindow.WndProc(Message& m)
en System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)
I 'm having an error, and the aplication stop mining and crush.
The only solution is to uninstall the drivers and reinstaling them
The error said :
************** Texto de la excepción **************
System.NullReferenceException: Referencia a objeto no establecida como instancia de un objeto.
en MultiMiner.Xgminer.Miner.Launch(String reason) en d:\Data\Visual Studio Projects\Personal\MultiMiner\MultiMiner.Xgminer\Miner.cs:línea 146
en MultiMiner.Engine.MiningEngine.LaunchMinerProcess(MinerConfiguration minerConfiguration, String reason) en d:\Data\Visual Studio Projects\Personal\MultiMiner\MultiMiner.Engine\MiningEngine.cs:línea 588
en MultiMiner.Engine.MiningEngine.StartMining() en d:\Data\Visual Studio Projects\Personal\MultiMiner\MultiMiner.Engine\MiningEngine.cs:línea 547
en MultiMiner.Engine.MiningEngine.ApplyMiningStrategy(List`1 coinInformation) en d:\Data\Visual Studio Projects\Personal\MultiMiner\MultiMiner.Engine\MiningEngine.cs:línea 257
en MultiMiner.Win.MainForm.CheckAndApplyMiningStrategy() en d:\Data\Visual Studio Projects\Personal\MultiMiner\MultiMiner.Win\MainForm.cs:línea 2232
en MultiMiner.Win.MainForm.coinStatsTimer_Tick(Object sender, EventArgs e) en d:\Data\Visual Studio Projects\Personal\MultiMiner\MultiMiner.Win\MainForm.cs:línea 2221
en System.Windows.Forms.Timer.OnTick(EventArgs e)
en System.Windows.Forms.Timer.TimerNativeWindow.WndProc(Message& m)
en System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)
Sorry for the delay. To me it looks like you have a blank value for either your pool's host, port, or username.
December 22, 2013, 02:51:18 PM
Hey there, there is a bug i want to report, the twinfury miners are recogniced corectly in Multiminer but will not start to mine... testet it on different systems. On bfg miner they work corectly... thats strange...
Hey there - got a sample unit shipped to me priority so it should be here soon. I'll get a fix out for it ASAP once I receive it.
Thanks very much to aauer1 for helping me out here!
Oh thats great, sorry for not replying any more, i haven't got time to test again =) But im will be happy if this will work. The delivery from aauer is very fast, and its a great product =)
December 22, 2013, 02:30:43 PM
Are you really sure that multiminer(bfgminer) same khas speed with cgminer?
In my experience using the following hardware, bfgminer and cgminer are comparable in speed:
- ATI 5770
- ATI 6870
- AMD 7950
- Block Erupter USB
- Red / Blue Fury
- Bi*Fury USB
In addition, only bfgminer currently has support for the following:
- HashBuster Micro
- GPU / OpenCL
- Built-in Stratum proxy
Currently this thread has ~1,200 posts and ~46,000 views with nobody else having a problem with bfgminer performance.
That said I do not have the hardware you have, though I have a 7970 coming later next week to play with and tune.
If you are having particular trouble tuning your hardware I will make the same offer I make with ASICs: ship the hardware to me and I'd be happy to look into tuning it myself and adding support, and will then ship it back.
December 22, 2013, 08:48:55 AM
I could take 725 khas with below config cgminer 3.7.2 ;
But multiminer is 680 khas around.
But multiminer is 680 khas around.
Have you tried tweaking these settings? It looks to me like you are using the exact same settings for cgminer and bfgminer and expecting the same performance. According to reports from other users this is not the case and you are going to need to tweak things yourself:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4068851
Try the following page and chart for some suggested arguments"
https://litecoin.info/Mining_hardware_comparison#AMD_.28ATI.29
I would you like to ask something to you
Are you really sure that multiminer(bfgminer) same khas speed with cgminer?
December 22, 2013, 08:33:04 AM
I could take 725 khas with below config cgminer 3.7.2 ;
But multiminer is 680 khas around.
But multiminer is 680 khas around.
Have you tried tweaking these settings? It looks to me like you are using the exact same settings for cgminer and bfgminer and expecting the same performance. According to reports from other users this is not the case and you are going to need to tweak things yourself:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4068851
Try the following page and chart for some suggested arguments"
https://litecoin.info/Mining_hardware_comparison#AMD_.28ATI.29
December 22, 2013, 05:42:57 AM
I did not like multiminer because it use bfminer and bfminer is more slower than cgminer.
Sorry to hear that. So far nobody else is experiencing slower performance with bfgminer than cgminer. Would you care to give more details? What hardware? What arguments (CTRL+C from the Process Log window)?
I mine with all sorts of hardware and cgminer is not faster with any of it.
Sorry to say that... Unfortunatelly it is true. I really love your application and software but it is not enough to perfect mining.
I could take 725 khas with below config cgminer 3.7.2 ;
But multiminer is 680 khas around.
4 pcs R9 280x
My Multiminer process log ;
--scrypt --thread-concurrency 11200 -g 2 -I 13 -w 256 --auto-fan --gpu-fan 30-75 --temp-cutoff 90 --temp-overheat 85 --temp-target 72 --gpu-memclock 1500 --gpu-engine 1080 --gpu-powertune -20 --expiry 1 --scan-time 1 --queue 0 --no-submit-stale --scan noauto --quota "100;stratum+tcp://ltc.give-me-coins.com:3333" -u ****** -p ***** --scan opencl:auto -d OCL0 -d OCL1 -d OCL2 -d OCL3 --api-listen --api-port 4028 --api-allow W:127.0.0.1, -T
My cgminer config;
setx GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT 100
setx GPU_USE_SYNC_OBJECTS 1
color 02
C:\Users\TNL\Desktop\cgminer-3.7.2-windows\cgminer.exe --scrypt -u ***** -p ****** -o stratum+tcp://ltc.give-me-coins.com:3333 --thread-concurrency 11200 -g 2 -I 13 -w 256 --auto-fan --gpu-fan 30-75 --temp-cutoff 90 --temp-overheat 85 --temp-target 72 --gpu-memclock 1500 --gpu-engine 1080 --gpu-powertune -20 --expiry 1 --scan-time 1 --queue 0 --no-submit-stale
December 22, 2013, 05:30:02 AM
I am really tired.I have been trying for 2 days. After 10 minutes pc shut down.
I have Asus R9 280x Matrix and there is no problem.
But also I use 4 x R9 280X
I set all configs true but i can't be successfull.
Before the update your pc software everything was perfect but now it is not working. I unistalled and install 2.2 version but your software is still not working
I fix it myself.
I deleted all multiminer files on my computer and install 2.2.2 version.
December 22, 2013, 05:11:55 AM
I am really tired.I have been trying for 2 days. After 10 minutes pc shut down.
I have Asus R9 280x Matrix and there is no problem.
But also I use 4 x R9 280X
I set all configs true but i can't be successfull.
Before the update your pc software everything was perfect but now it is not working. I unistalled and install 2.2 version but your software is still not working
December 22, 2013, 01:05:12 AM
I have about 10 going at the moment, hopefully they will stay stable, as it's like starting over again with the rigs!
Now that you are trying out 2.0, have you checked out this feature? Another user requested it but it reminded me of your setup while I was adding it:
With your 40 rigs, this would let you keep the coin configuration, strategy configuration, and several other XML files in a single location on your network. There are a few XML files that remain local to the machine as they are device-specific (XgminerConfig, DeviceConfig).
Wow, I missed this one, excellent idea, as only my mixed card rigs need any change in the config. I'll check it out, currently dealing with unexpected temp issues in my space with a slight warm up from our normal winter temps. Thanks!
As a side note on these configs, I've experienced a few corrupt xml files from systems that were cold reset, or locked up, and the multi-miner app would not start up (had a windows error), but I fix it by removing the XML files and other files in the %appdata%\multiminer dir (except the coin config XML) and have the app recreate them (then I change the settings). I know I'm not providing enough info to troubleshoot in this message, but was wondering if anyone else has seen this?
December 21, 2013, 10:48:11 PM
I have about 10 going at the moment, hopefully they will stay stable, as it's like starting over again with the rigs!
Now that you are trying out 2.0, have you checked out this feature? Another user requested it but it reminded me of your setup while I was adding it:
With your 40 rigs, this would let you keep the coin configuration, strategy configuration, and several other XML files in a single location on your network. There are a few XML files that remain local to the machine as they are device-specific (XgminerConfig, DeviceConfig).
December 21, 2013, 04:27:45 PM
Users of MobileMiner for Android, an update is now available on the Google Play store:
• Full device names now displayed
• Pool name for each device displayed
• Proxy devices now correctly identified
• Date and time a machine was last online now shown
Similar updates are awaiting approval for the Apple and Windows Phone App Stores.
• Full device names now displayed
• Pool name for each device displayed
• Proxy devices now correctly identified
• Date and time a machine was last online now shown
Similar updates are awaiting approval for the Apple and Windows Phone App Stores.
December 21, 2013, 01:13:41 PM
nwoolls Please do the MultiMiner fully portable, i.e. all settings are keeps in programs folder 
I've noted it as a suggestion - thanks!
December 21, 2013, 01:09:51 PM
When running multiminer as a stratum proxy for my standalone miner (Bitmain Antminer, 180GH's) i get 100% hardware errors? Is this a know issue when trying to connect from a cgminer instance? Hashrate shows up in Multiminer but everything gets rejected.
Am i doing something wrong or is this some kind of bug?
Am i doing something wrong or is this some kind of bug?
This is a bug in cgminer. It is unable to properly connect to Stratum proxies. You need to use the GetWork port instead of the Stratum port.
You can read about the bug in cgminer here:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3971916
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