Topic: MultiMiner: Any Miner, Any Where, on Any Device (Free, Open Source, Cross Platform) - page 128. (Read 827336 times)

nwoolls Please do the MultiMiner fully portable, i.e. all settings are keeps in programs folder

When running multiminer as a stratum proxy for my standalone miner (Bitmain Antminer, 180GH's) i get 100% hardware errors? Is this a know issue when trying to connect from a cgminer instance? Hashrate shows up in Multiminer but everything gets rejected.

Am i doing something wrong or is this some kind of bug?

I thought that too, but it simply is a bit different settings. I'm in the process of slowly changing over all of my machines, and found I once again need to find the sweet spot for each. The only place I don't see the same hash rate, or at least close to it, is for my MSI Twin Frozr 7950's in which I had a modified .bin file that was provided on the litecoin forum (user has since deleted the files as he was unhappy at the lack of appreciation of the community).


For those I went from 680 to 640s.. Maybe there is a similar optimization for BFGminer.. the thread is here: https://litecointalk.org/index.php?topic=6058.255

For whatever reason, it appears to achieve the same hashing power, it is also drawing more power due to my setting changes, but again, that is probably just more tweaking that I need to do.

I have about 10 going at the moment, hopefully they will stay stable, as it's like starting over again with the rigs!

grrr nothing made simple lol bfgminer every time getting to a point of moving back to using cgminer but me likes using multi miner to auto flip so i cant win lol

I love the earlier releases.

These new ones suck!

I want bfgminer. Only. The 2.0 releases don't recognize a damn thing. No devices. Then I think "Why the HELL did I try this again?" And then I go back and rebuild the earlier ones.

AAAAGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

These crashes are bfgminer or your OS, not MultiMiner. It's an OS level error launching bfgminer.

Just had a crash. Details below..

See the end of this message for details on invoking
just-in-time (JIT) debugging instead of this dialog box.

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MultiMiner.Xgminer.MinerLaunchException: bfgminer is exiting after launching with exit code 1.

Details: 0x76ec9ea5 : C:\Windows\SysWOW64\ntdll.dll : RtlInitializeExceptionChain

Executable: Miners\bfgminer\bfgminer.exe
Arguments: --scrypt  -I 13 -g 2 -w 256 --thread-concurrency 8192 --scan noauto --quota "100;http://www.bqcpool.com:8388" -u crazyearner.1 -p x--scan opencl:auto -d OCL0 -d OCL1 --api-listen --api-port 4028 --api-allow W:127.0.0.1, -T
   at MultiMiner.Xgminer.Miner.EnsureProcessStarts(Process process, ProcessStartInfo startInfo) in d:\Data\Visual Studio Projects\Personal\MultiMiner\MultiMiner.Xgminer\Miner.cs:line 370
   at MultiMiner.Xgminer.Miner.StartMinerProcess(String arguments, Boolean redirectOutput, Boolean ensureProcessStarts, String reason, Boolean startProcess) in d:\Data\Visual Studio Projects\Personal\MultiMiner\MultiMiner.Xgminer\Miner.cs:line 261
   at MultiMiner.Xgminer.Miner.Launch(String reason) in d:\Data\Visual Studio Projects\Personal\MultiMiner\MultiMiner.Xgminer\Miner.cs:line 216
   at MultiMiner.Engine.MiningEngine.LaunchMinerProcess(MinerConfiguration minerConfiguration, String reason) in d:\Data\Visual Studio Projects\Personal\MultiMiner\MultiMiner.Engine\MiningEngine.cs:line 588
   at MultiMiner.Engine.MiningEngine.StartMining() in d:\Data\Visual Studio Projects\Personal\MultiMiner\MultiMiner.Engine\MiningEngine.cs:line 547
   at MultiMiner.Engine.MiningEngine.ApplyMiningStrategy(List`1 coinInformation) in d:\Data\Visual Studio Projects\Personal\MultiMiner\MultiMiner.Engine\MiningEngine.cs:line 260
   at MultiMiner.Win.MainForm.CheckAndApplyMiningStrategy() in d:\Data\Visual Studio Projects\Personal\MultiMiner\MultiMiner.Win\MainForm.cs:line 2234
   at MultiMiner.Win.MainForm.coinStatsTimer_Tick(Object sender, EventArgs e) in d:\Data\Visual Studio Projects\Personal\MultiMiner\MultiMiner.Win\MainForm.cs:line 2223
   at System.Windows.Forms.Timer.OnTick(EventArgs e)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Timer.TimerNativeWindow.WndProc(Message& m)
   at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)


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Sorry to hear that. So far nobody else is experiencing slower performance with bfgminer than cgminer. Would you care to give more details? What hardware? What arguments (CTRL+C from the Process Log window)?

I mine with all sorts of hardware and cgminer is not faster with any of it.

I did not like multiminer because it use bfminer and  bfminer is more slower than cgminer.  Khas is everything for us. Nothing changes it...

Hey there - got a sample unit shipped to me priority so it should be here soon. I'll get a fix out for it ASAP once I receive it.

Thanks very much to aauer1 for helping me out here!

Awesome - that's excellent news!


It uses the --quota argument found in bfgminer and cgminer to direct 99% of work go to your pools and 1% of work go to one of my own.

Ok, I guess I needed that extra push that you gave me to commit to BFGminer. I now have the rig operating at a new sweet spot, yielding 643, 643, 628, 615 in early results, and lowered my temps and VDDC into acceptable ranges. I have not checked this one on the amp load, as this one is currently at my house providing heat, but I'll do that with some of my others at my space which is critical to balance the power consumption. I'm upgraded to the latest version of MM on this one rig, and have enabled the 1% donation. I will continue to do this on all the rigs I successfully update.

It's great to hear that you may be able to keep us going with a Scrypt miner!

How does the 1% donation work? Is it taking 1% of my hash rate and directing it to a pool? I just want to better understand this.

I am not a C or hardware guru, but I am a fast learner and I have bfgminer compiling on multiple OSs. I also have it so that I can compile, debug, break, etc. And I already have a few scrypt bugs to look at and see if I can fix to get started. I can't promise anything but I am definitely looking into this.


So far I've been lucky and everyone has been very nice and supportive. Also a decent number of people have enabled the 1% donation option in version 2.0. However, I can definitely see getting burnt out on it, especially if the feature people are clamoring for is something you don't personally use or care about.

I guess I need to spend more time on tweaking my machines for BFGminer as long as the Scrypt side is going to be supported. I didn't spend a lot of time tweaking, as finding the sweet spot again for 40 machines, with the likelihood of having the author not supporting the Scrypt side of things wasn't something I was going to do.

However, if you're behind BFGminer with Luke, I have no issue investing the time. I removed my extra settings in my config, as I have mine finely tuned to draw no more than 16-18 amps (depending on room temp) per every two machines, so I don't have my cards set for maximum performance. The Twin Frozrs draw 680 kh/s in my configs, but the test machine I have is a bad example, as there are 2 different types of 7950s in the rig.

I removed all my parameters, and just went with what you had, and had the same result. However, I then tweaked my engine, mem, and vddc in afterburner, and saw a very decent bump, however the issue is that bump consumed too much power and ran the cards hot. I think it may be possible to re-tweak all my rigs to run under BFGminer, it will just take a very long time to do so, which is fine by me if we have support for Scrypt long term.

I can setup team viewer, but before doing that, I'll run my own tests, so I don't take time away from you and your work. This is something I can experiment with, and I will be absolutely thrilled if it works and I can upgrade my miners to your latest version!

Thank you again for your work. I hope you know how much I appreciate your efforts, and I sure hope everyone else shows you the same appreciation. If I can get all my rigs stable with the same hash rate under BFGminer and multiminer, I'll donate some more LTC to the cause. People need to remember that they are making money off this, even though it is also a hobby for us, and they need to donate to those that spend so much time helping others like Nate. I assume some of the attitude from CK probably comes from doing this for so long and seeing how much people take advantage of the efforts of others, without doing anything to give back.

Where can i download this fork?

I'm sorry, I missed this message originally, as I wasn't checking the forums as much. The performance difference is bad, especially when multiplied by the number of rigs I have. I think my biggest issue is that Luke has already stated that he doesn't care about Scrypt, so it's going to turn out exactly like CGminer did I think. However, it appears that Luke at least works with you, where CK and crew were a bit difficult from what I'm reading into things.

Here are my arguments for CGminer on this sample rig with 4 x 7950s:


Output with CGMiner:
True   GPU   opencl   Litecoin   3231.18329466   .02937   1610%      74   641.5   4963   76   0   1.9223   20
True   GPU   opencl   Litecoin   3231.18329466   .02937   1610%      82   628.2   5001   82   0   1.9371   20
True   GPU   opencl   Litecoin   3231.18329466   .02937   1610%      90   628.5   4782   99   0   1.8522   20
True   GPU   opencl   Litecoin   3231.18329466   .02937   1610%      74   641.4   4961   79   0   1.9216   20

Output with BFGMiner:
True   OCL   opencl   Litecoin   3231.18329466   .02929969   1606%      73   616   23   0   0   2.441   20
True   OCL   opencl   Litecoin   3231.18329466   .02929969   1606%      81   590   19   0   0   2.016   20
True   OCL   opencl   Litecoin   3231.18329466   .02929969   1606%      88   592   26   0   0   2.759   20
True   OCL   opencl   Litecoin   3231.18329466   .02929969   1606%      74   621   25   0   0   2.653   20

Multiply this by 40+ rigs and I've got a significant loss in hashing power. Programatically, I can't offer any help, as I don't have that skill set, but I'd certainly love to test a solution, as I miss having the latest Multi-miner, really grew to love it.

If you go to the Process Log in MultiMiner you will see the arguments it is using to launch bfgminer. You can use CTRL+C and CTRL+P to copy and paste them. What is the difference between the non-working MultiMiner command line and the one you are using? I would think adding "--gpu-map 1:0,0:1" under Settings > Advanced miner settings should work.


I can give it some thought. However, at this point MultiMiner already gives you two solid ways to combat this: add more pools for each coin so they failover or turn on auto-mining so it switches to other coins. What you seem to be suggesting is similar to auto-mining with strategies but with manually defined order of coins. This is possible but seems overly complicated and requiring a UI rather than, say, just adding more failover pools yourself.


I've never seen it do this. What makes you think this is occurring? I have numerous pools defined for each coin and only the first online pool is used. Again, maybe using CTRL+C and CTRL+P on the arguments from the Process Log and relaying them here would help.

I like the sleek, simple interface. It runs faster than cgwatcher, especially while mining. Good stuff, but, a few things...

1. I'm one of the rare cases where the gpu mapping is off.

http://i.imgur.com/PG8Z6rM.jpg

The fan & temps match up with the card labels; however, the hashrates do not. In bfgminer (and cgminer), I've been able to simply use --gpu-map 1:0,0:1 and it swaps the two. Problem solved. But, adding this to the arguments does not work.

Since you'll probably want to see it, here's the output of running 'bfgminer --scan opencl:auto -d?'
http://i.imgur.com/ljZfWDK.jpg

Running as admin doesn't change the registry key issue. Regardless, bfgminer works fine when only running it, using arguments like --gpu-map 1:0,0:1 --intensity 11,19 --thread-concurrency 3200,7040 --scan opencl:auto.

2. My next issue may be one I simply haven't figured out how to do with MultiMiner. How can I set one coin as a default, set another coin as a backup, and then have it return to the default when that default coin's pool is back up? Lately I've needed multiple coin/pool backups, and it would be good to rank them in desired backup order (considering some are not on coinchoose). Right now, without a strategy enabled, when all of the pools for a coin are down, it seems as though it continues to try. It would be good to set a maximum number of attempts / timeout period before switching to the next best coin / next backup. I've noticed multiminer and cgwatcher seem to struggle with pool failures, which is now a common occurrence. I'm trying to transition to multiminer in the hope that it handles pools going down better, and if not yet, will do so, since you seem on top of your game, updating like a champion. Perhaps there needs to be a way to establish the rules to what happens when starting up and a pool is down, or if the pool goes down while mining--how many times to retry, how much time to wait, how long until trying the original down pool to see if it's alive. Idk, pool downtime from all the traffic and resulting maintenance has really affected my auto-mining lately.

3. While talking about pools, when I have multiple set for a coin (in this case 2 pools), my two cards mine each pool. I only want to mine one as a default and then have another as a backup. At the very least, it shows as mining both. I don't know what to believe exactly since I unfortunately don't get much output from bfgminer. I can't confirm it's doing what it should / I can't really tell anything from the API monitor.

Anyway, as I say, it's looking good. Hopefully you could shed some light on my issues as well.

Awesome, looking forward to the updates.