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July 24, 2024, 12:49:13 AM
#51
I would gradually convince brother to make money  in crypto trading for his gambling needs. The side effect of such trading activity might be the gambling   abstinence, and, for the beginning, I would present him a crypto wallet with "couple" of satoshes. The size of this "couple" would depend on his brother.
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July 24, 2024, 12:00:28 AM
#50
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No worries op, asking for money to gamble is not "in need of help" lol. You have a clear conscience here and I 100% will do/recommend the same thing. Yes, family is family but there's also a certain point where even if you're both family, you don't help because it's not really "helping" anymore. It's clearly taking advantage of that damn label lol. Yes, guilt is there and will always be 100% but don't take it as something that means you made a mistake or did something wrong. In the end it's just you being guilt trip by that label, and not really you making a mistake imo.
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July 23, 2024, 10:15:02 PM
#49
But, later in the day I started feeling bad for advising a brother not to help his own brother when he's in need of help

Who is in need of help? The brother just wants money for his gambling addiction so that he can gamble and become rich in a short period of time. According to me, you did the right thing. If it’s not your money, then you don’t have the right to put it at risk. Addiction will automatically low down if the guy doesn’t get money to gamble. So if I were there in your place, then I would have done the same thing, mate. Don’t feel sad. I am 100% sure that most of the people will agree with your advice that you have given to your neighbor.
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July 23, 2024, 10:05:05 PM
#48
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what do you guys think about this?

I think it's a bad advise on not to help his brother considering that your neighbor is financially well-off. You could have give his younger brother the benefit of the doubt, what if he is telling the truth and missed the opportunity because he don't the money to start up the business then that opportunity was wasted because his brother didn't help him. If the money was used for his gambling activity then that help would be the first and the last he could get from his brother.
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July 23, 2024, 09:35:32 PM
#47
It's difficult when someone has been labeled negatively by their family, especially if the cause is gambling. However, we must always help them if they are our family, because who else will they turn to for assistance? Perhaps by observing how the business is conducted and getting directly involved in it, we can minimize the risks associated with the money they are using.
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July 23, 2024, 09:18:00 PM
#46
This is absolutely a loop of stories, these stories are repeated over and over again on this board, and the truth is that 99% of them users that posting don't know what they are talking about and have no real idea of these situations.

No one here is professionally trained to give an answer, in fact it is the worst place to seek ideas, this thread is only useful for those who do not bet, filling a thread with innocuous posts. imo.

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July 23, 2024, 07:47:21 PM
#45
In my own opinion, you have just given the best advise you should, because dealing with a gambling addict sometimes may be complicated because you wouldn't know when he's saying the truth or when he's lieing, so in this case the advice of him looking for other alternative to sort himself out is just the best option. Sothat he will be serious for once and make good use of his skill and extablish himself before requesting help from his brother. But my fear is that Gambling addiction can be so bad that a well planned business may be ruined by using the business fund to gamble.
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July 23, 2024, 06:45:31 PM
#44
Well, since his brother is an addicted gambler, there's really a possibility that the money he asked is solely to sustain his addiction. It's not easy to ignore your brother because regardless, he is still a family. But it's not also right to tolerate him for spending the money that he didn't even earned. Because for a person like his brother, he doesn't know the value of money unless he's the one who worked hard for it.

Anyway, if I were in his shoes, I won't give him money. However, I will help in other ways for him to stop his addiction. Because it's not easy to overcome such situation especially if you don't have anyone to turn on to regarding your problem.
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July 23, 2024, 06:24:59 PM
#43
I don't see any problems with giving an advice to your neighborhood mate, the main concern here is the bad actions that the person did. No matter what positive motivations we will provide them, and yet they cannot improve themselves then we're not held responsible for them. During the times of uncertainties no one can help us but ourselves, we're always help liable on our shortcomings and that's always a basic mindset. You don't have to stress on those irresponsible people around, and better avoid doing busines with them because it might cause you problems in the near future.
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July 23, 2024, 06:14:46 PM
#42
Honestly, gambling addiction will not be easily cured without really appropriate and serious treatment, as well as a strong desire from the addicted gambler. It won't end even if his older brother or whoever gives him loans again and again, in fact it will trigger him to gamble again and again.

My personal experience is that my brother, who had gone all out, even breaking up his family, was now finally being put in a rehabilitation center for treatment for his slot gambling addiction. and until now, several months later, he is still there, it's quite bad because he seems to be in a daze and has a mental disorder.

What's worse, he just had a baby who is under 1 year old, his house and all the assets of him and his parents and even his in-laws have been used up to pay off his debts, and this still leaves more than $30k in debt. Just imagine what his family's condition is like now, all that remains is a house which is currently in the process of being sold to pay off debts, and they can't afford to pay it all. Even his parents currently have to live with other relatives to stay alive.

In essence, for anyone who is an addicted gambler, most of them, will not stop until they are really treated seriously by a specialist. And it also takes time, it's not that easy to recover and not return to gambling activities. This is a continuous and sustainable treatment. It is very sad every time I read stories about victims or families of addicted gamblers whose lives also have to be disrupted due to the actions of those addicted gamblers.

You can give him advice continuously, but whether it will really be successful or not, if he is really addicted, it will really be difficult. Is it not possible to take him to a rehabilitation center or to a specialist to help his treatment? It's best if you also have to be careful, always be alert to conditions like that.
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July 23, 2024, 05:59:58 PM
#41
But, later in the day I started feeling bad for advising a brother not to help his own brother when he's in need of help he can give due to my sentiment against gambling addiction.

what do you guys think about this?
If a sibling has shown themselves incapable to handle a business, there is no need starting a business for them when they will surely run it down. You can keep assisting them in little ways with money for little things that are essential, as a way of still expressing your love and blood relationship, but with a problem like gambling addiction, starting a business with this problem is a waste, the person will never understand and value the business.
You're right, because anyone empower and fails to utilize the opportunity given to him or her for the first and gave the person a trial and the person failed for the second time, I don't think that you need to assist the person again,  because it's obvious that the person might neither contribute almost eighty-five percent of your downfall if not hundred percent of your downfall, for me assistance for empowerment to humanity should not be done more than twice else they will ruin your life.
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July 23, 2024, 05:50:40 PM
#40
But, later in the day I started feeling bad for advising a brother not to help his own brother when he's in need of help he can give due to my sentiment against gambling addiction.

what do you guys think about this?
If a sibling has shown themselves incapable to handle a business, there is no need starting a business for them when they will surely run it down. You can keep assisting them in little ways with money for little things that are essential, as a way of still expressing your love and blood relationship, but with a problem like gambling addiction, starting a business with this problem is a waste, the person will never understand and value the business.
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July 23, 2024, 03:50:58 PM
#39
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Your advice is not wrong, I would also say so not to give a penny, let him look for himself to get his business capital, even though his brother wants him to succeed like other relatives, it would be better for him to do without any help.
Providing limits without any help that will result in subsequent gambling is good to do.
But if someone is already experiencing an acute addiction to gambling, they will do everything to earn money in order to be able to gamble.

In his mind he was only betting for a big win that might be able to recoup his losses, but in reality it would only consume everything.
These kinds of people need to get rehabilitation and guidance from those closest to them to be able to escape from the addiction.
legendary
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July 23, 2024, 03:43:02 PM
#38
Hello bitcointalk community.
I need your hints and thoughts on this because I honestly having a double feeling if what I gave out was the right advise to give or it's going to worsen matters more than it currently is.

it's actually about a neighbor whose younger sibling came visiting to spend two nights at his place, from what I was told by his elder bro who's financially well to do, his sibling specifically came over to request for financial support and before then he has been calling on phone to which he has been ditching the calls, he therefore had to come in person to visit, and has been all over him claiming he needs the money for some urgent business setup. According to him, he's avoiding his bro because most times he had supported him with money he has regularly squander it on gambling and as a result he has resolved on not giving him money again.

He couldn't hold the disturbance about how he feels according to him, so he had to share the entire story with me seeking for my advice because he doesn't know if his bro is genuine about his alleged business claims. I felt pity for him having a gambling addicted brother, so the advise I gave him was that he shouldn't give him a penny, if he really genuine about the business let him go sought himself out elsewhere and when he(my neighbor) later sees the business growing he can then support.
But, later in the day I started feeling bad for advising a brother not to help his own brother when he's in need of help he can give due to my sentiment against gambling addiction.

what do you guys think about this?

I planned on locking the thread after a few shared thoughts.
The suggestion was really just that right or on point. If it was really that a legit business plans or trying out to make one by his brother then asking up some proofs would really be that something that needs to do.
On the moment that he found out that his brother is lying then he would definitely be having that legit excuse or reason on not to give him anymore money just because of the lies. Somehow into this kind of situation or
condition on which it is really that hard to resist specially if your brother/sister or simply siblings does have those kind of problems but we do know that we should really be having that kind of cutting off specially
in financial support because we are the ones who do feed up their addiction specially if you do really know on what they are dealing on with. This is why it would really be understandable as a brother that you shouldnt
really be providing him some financial even no matter what reasons he might have. Addiction is something that is commonly a problem for most gamblers and there's no exemption to this not unless if you do really have that good self control towards on the things you are dealing on with.
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July 23, 2024, 03:08:55 PM
#37
I always try to help others especially who want to do something good especially who are entrepreneur but not interested to lend money someone who never keep his word before or a gambling addict. Poor people always surroundings with us but not all poor people are decent. I found there are some poor people who gamble and lost their money and they collect money from various people by give wrong info. I am not interest to lend money for these people because I know if lend him he will lose by gambling then again he do the same work. If someone gets bad idea about a person before lending money then definitely he should be careful.
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July 23, 2024, 03:01:01 PM
#36
I can't help a gambler in any way, be it money or whatever. Asking for money in the name of business is cheating and those involved in these activities should never be helped in any way. A poor student can be helped or a poor student can be helped but if he helps a gambler, he may feel very bad in person if he does not spend it properly. If a gambler takes money from others repeatedly to establish himself and sits in a gambling loss, he will find a situation in such a situation that he will not get help even in a bad situation. Because if you cheat, you must deal with the consequences of that cheating at one time.
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July 23, 2024, 02:51:08 PM
#35
If his brother is a gambling addict, the reason he said he wants the money could be a lie. He may just need the money to have extra time to gamble again and he will lose the money. If he is a gambling addict, he is not worthy to be given the money. Your advice is not wrong. I have done exactly the same thing before when I was a gambling addict. I borrowed the money from my brother and used it to gamble.
Those are the kind of gamblers that borrows money to gamble.
From the stories, if it's true that he wants to use the money for a business the lender should not give him first until he sees any seriousness in him before he can borrow him the money snd if he wants to give the money y to his brother, he should not give him the complete amount that he demanded but half of it. And the money should also be the amount that he can afford to lose because as families he might not pay early because he's also a gambler addict. And the truth is that even if he used the money to start a business he might still use the profits and gamble again.
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July 23, 2024, 02:38:00 PM
#34
Hello bitcointalk community.
I need your hints and thoughts on this because I honestly having a double feeling if what I gave out was the right advise to give or it's going to worsen matters more than it currently is.

it's actually about a neighbor whose younger sibling came visiting to spend two nights at his place, from what I was told by his elder bro who's financially well to do, his sibling specifically came over to request for financial support and before then he has been calling on phone to which he has been ditching the calls, he therefore had to come in person to visit, and has been all over him claiming he needs the money for some urgent business setup. According to him, he's avoiding his bro because most times he had supported him with money he has regularly squander it on gambling and as a result he has resolved on not giving him money again.

He couldn't hold the disturbance about how he feels according to him, so he had to share the entire story with me seeking for my advice because he doesn't know if his bro is genuine about his alleged business claims. I felt pity for him having a gambling addicted brother, so the advise I gave him was that he shouldn't give him a penny, if he really genuine about the business let him go sought himself out elsewhere and when he(my neighbor) later sees the business growing he can then support.
But, later in the day I started feeling bad for advising a brother not to help his own brother when he's in need of help he can give due to my sentiment against gambling addiction.

what do you guys think about this?

I planned on locking the thread after a few shared thoughts.




Well, he asked for your advice and you just gave your personal opinion and suggestion about his situation. It depends on him still whether he would follow it or not. You are making a point simply because based on his story, nothing's happening on the amounts he is giving to his brother. Well yes every people are subject to changes but at least in this case, his brother should show proofs in form of eagerness to make positive changes. If he'd just be dependent then nothing's gonna happen wherein the money to be borrowed will just be wasted. Also, lying should never be tolerated in the first place. If the older brother will be in doubt of giving a helping hand then that'e just him showing the reality to the younger siblings that things aren't easily achieved. The more you'd be asking for favor, the more that you won't value the momey compared with what is actually learned.
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July 23, 2024, 02:23:20 PM
#33
what do you guys think about this?
Such incidents are often happening around us because many people borrow money by talking about business setup but instead of setting up business, they make losses on gambling. An incident like this happened in my uncle's life if I was very young at the time and I had no idea about gambling. But I saw my uncle helping his brother-in-law and later it was known that my uncle's brother-in-law was an addicted gambler. He has caused a loss by gambling by borrowing money from multiple sources and is currently a bankrupt accused. It would be wise to always keep yourself conscious of such people. It should be remembered that such gamblers are always walking around me and you and they can use money and gamble with money whenever they want. It is very important to always be aware of these people.
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July 23, 2024, 01:43:31 PM
#32
Hello bitcointalk community.
I need your hints and thoughts on this because I honestly having a double feeling if what I gave out was the right advise to give or it's going to worsen matters more than it currently is.

it's actually about a neighbor whose younger sibling came visiting to spend two nights at his place, from what I was told by his elder bro who's financially well to do, his sibling specifically came over to request for financial support and before then he has been calling on phone to which he has been ditching the calls, he therefore had to come in person to visit, and has been all over him claiming he needs the money for some urgent business setup. According to him, he's avoiding his bro because most times he had supported him with money he has regularly squander it on gambling and as a result he has resolved on not giving him money again.

He couldn't hold the disturbance about how he feels according to him, so he had to share the entire story with me seeking for my advice because he doesn't know if his bro is genuine about his alleged business claims. I felt pity for him having a gambling addicted brother, so the advise I gave him was that he shouldn't give him a penny, if he really genuine about the business let him go sought himself out elsewhere and when he(my neighbor) later sees the business growing he can then support.
But, later in the day I started feeling bad for advising a brother not to help his own brother when he's in need of help he can give due to my sentiment against gambling addiction.

what do you guys think about this?

I planned on locking the thread after a few shared thoughts.
Giving advice on family matters is always difficult, however I do not see anything wrong with the advice itself, if a person has proven over and over again they are not to be trusted, then it is silly to trust them once again and lend them that money, because even if the addicted brother was telling the truth, all his past transgressions are enough to never lend him a single penny until he has gotten over his addiction and he has proven himself worthy of being trusted again, so do not feel guilty about it as you did the right thing in my opinion.
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