My Apology to Bitcoin Community and Request for another Chance

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Quote from: Timelord2067 on February 06, 2023, 08:47:02 AM

Quote from: decodx on February 05, 2023, 01:30:09 PM

FYI, Nutildah's post "the aTriz/jamalaezaz farm" was from August 09, 2021. I was around at that time.

Well ... not quite... (2021)

Quote from: nutildah on August 09, 2021, 02:31:53 AM

Credit goes to marlboroza for originally linking jamalaezaz and aTriz.

That post: (2018)

Quote from: marlboroza on July 28, 2018, 04:06:37 PM

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My research leads to old 2 years old timelord's finding https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14190362 where they connected 3 accounts: jamalaezaz, Btcschool, extrabyte

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And my post: (2016)

Quote from: Timelord2067 on March 13, 2016, 09:21:56 PM

Accounts connected: jamalaezaz, Btcschool, extrabyte

Proof: I have linked jamalaezaz and Btcschool previously

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I hadn't known it at the time (as my post was done on the ^{2016-03-14, 12:21:56}, but extrabyte was banned in 2019...

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5/24/2019 2:19:03 AM Changed to Archived status Autoban user
5/20/2019 6:20:47 AM Changed to Archived status Autoban user

Therefore jamalaezaz etc has been engaged in ban evasion for nearly four years.

Extrabyte was not in my possession when it was banned, so I am not engaging in ban evasion, it wasn't even in my possession when you linked it to me.

Quote from: JollyGood on February 06, 2023, 12:34:49 PM

I earlier requested this thread be locked as it served no purpose as several members will not be removing their negative tags but as it remains unlocked I would like to ask the OP about the accounts he has farmed.

jamalaezaz, can you please clarify in your own words:

- exactly how many accounts you operated in the past
- exactly how many accounts you operate now
- list the names of all accounts used (past and present)

Thank you

1: I don't remember, but a lot.
2: it seems the community has already made its mind so whatever I say they'll call it a lie. but it is true that I got rid of all my alts. last time I used another account was 2019. when atriz defaulted a 5 eth loan against his account..
3: you can see the names above in Timelord's post.

I am locking the thread as you said it has no purpose.. I understand that people are not ready to believe me yet. but I'll try to be a good forum user and do my level best to get community trust back.

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Guys do you know how I can get in contact with Marlboro, I need to plead non-guilty to see if there is a chance, I mean come on guys, just look at my avatar, that's the last of the little cute troll bloodline, we are practically going to extinct.
My great great grandfather looked the same only without the laptop. If I can find Marlboro the rest of the gang who banged me are still here, I could work my way with them somehow.🙃

I'm guessing that TimeLord will double down on my trust page by renewing his past rates over again after reading this post.

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I earlier requested this thread be locked as it served no purpose as several members will not be removing their negative tags but as it remains unlocked I would like to ask the OP about the accounts he has farmed.

jamalaezaz, can you please clarify in your own words:

- exactly how many accounts you operated in the past
- exactly how many accounts you operate now
- list the names of all accounts used (past and present)

Thank you

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Quote from: decodx on February 05, 2023, 01:30:09 PM

FYI, Nutildah's post "the aTriz/jamalaezaz farm" was from August 09, 2021. I was around at that time.

Well ... not quite... (2021)

Quote from: nutildah on August 09, 2021, 02:31:53 AM

Credit goes to marlboroza for originally linking jamalaezaz and aTriz.

That post: (2018)

Quote from: marlboroza on July 28, 2018, 04:06:37 PM

...

My research leads to old 2 years old timelord's finding https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14190362 where they connected 3 accounts: jamalaezaz, Btcschool, extrabyte

...

And my post: (2016)

Quote from: Timelord2067 on March 13, 2016, 09:21:56 PM

Accounts connected: jamalaezaz, Btcschool, extrabyte

Proof: I have linked jamalaezaz and Btcschool previously

...

I hadn't known it at the time (as my post was done on the ^{2016-03-14, 12:21:56}, but extrabyte was banned in 2019...

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5/24/2019 2:19:03 AM Changed to Archived status Autoban user
5/20/2019 6:20:47 AM Changed to Archived status Autoban user

Therefore jamalaezaz etc has been engaged in ban evasion for nearly four years.

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Quote from: ScamViruS on February 05, 2023, 01:56:28 PM

Quote from: Hamza2424 on February 04, 2023, 02:04:21 PM

On the second chance demand i think yes its the right of everyone and i belive bro you are going to get a second chance but it can take to come up again with a better face.

Before advocating for a second chance for him, take a fresh look at his past activities. Because he used every opportunity to scam from this forum. Even if you give a second, third, fourth, unlimited chance to a member with such a dishonest character like him, he will use it and try to scam again. So there is no chance of fulfilling your expectations, the community doesn't seem to give him another chance.

The dear fellow I am not familiar with his past activities as at that time maybe I was not the forum but for the second chance option, i am talking about the general situations not particularly favoring him to give him a chance. My comment was for everyone who is guilty on his past activities and humbly accepting them to move forward and build up a new reputation again.

For Royse and Julerz as some of the members mentioned above yes dude, I know their case is different from the OP case as their cases are not as critical as the OP case is I would like to educate myself from the feedback.

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Quote from: Hamza2424 on February 04, 2023, 02:04:21 PM

On the second chance demand i think yes its the right of everyone and i belive bro you are going to get a second chance but it can take to come up again with a better face.

Before advocating for a second chance for him, take a fresh look at his past activities. Because he used every opportunity to scam from this forum. Even if you give a second, third, fourth, unlimited chance to a member with such a dishonest character like him, he will use it and try to scam again. So there is no chance of fulfilling your expectations, the community doesn't seem to give him another chance.

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Quote from: BitcoinGirl.Club on February 05, 2023, 12:34:23 PM

Quote from: decodx on February 04, 2023, 03:43:07 PM

A second chance? Sure thing! Why stop at two when you can have a third, fourth, and maybe even a fifth chance?

Funny, you were not even registered in the forum when everything was happening but you are good to make a call.

Apologies, I must have missed the rule that only OGs are allowed to share their thoughts here.

FYI, Nutildah's post "the aTriz/jamalaezaz farm" was from August 09, 2021. I was around at that time.

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jamalaezaz, may be you need to become active in the community again. A great way to rebuild lost reputation is to communicate and spread hands to help others. If you are logging in once or twice a month and expecting things to change, I don't think it will work. Many are saying many things. Some are saying to give you another chance and some closed their doors. I am with the first group. You started to mess up from 2018 and it's long years have past. To be honest, it's hard to understand someone who you don't meet regularly and have discussion regularly.

And be honest.

Quote from: decodx on February 04, 2023, 03:43:07 PM

A second chance? Sure thing! Why stop at two when you can have a third, fourth, and maybe even a fifth chance?

Funny, you were not even registered in the forum when everything was happening but you are good to make a call.

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Quote from: decodx on February 04, 2023, 03:43:07 PM

A second chance? Sure thing! Why stop at two when you can have a third, fourth, and maybe even a fifth chance?

And why not give Bernie Madoff a second chance (assuming he was still alive)? Why not Ted fucking Bundy for that matter?

Yeah, whether a person should get some leniency granted depends on the magnitude of their fuckup or how much leniency or how many 2nd/3rd/etc. chances they've already gotten and blown. In Jamaljizz's case here, he wanted me to remove my negative on him from a long time ago, so I know damn well he's got something going for which he wants to look squeaky clean. Well, he's nothing of the sort, and the community ought to be warned of that.

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Those that wanted to revise the trust/feedback have done it. Those that question the sincerity of the OP have decided to not revise the trust/feedback therefore this thread serves no purpose now. I would advise the OP to lock the thread.

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Quote from: Hamza2424 on February 04, 2023, 02:04:21 PM

Dear Incidents happen always, as you know the latest one was the wallet hack of julerz12 also I do consider that trust matters a lot but you know Julerz is still working, Royse still working and there are many bounty managers working here. I think it is most common with bounty managers to happen in various ways.

Comparing the cases of Julerz12 or Royse777 to this one just isn't right. JamalAezaz is a proven cheater with tons of alt accounts. And on top of that, he managed some seriously questionable bounties. Check out his trust page if you need more proof.

Quote from: Hamza2424 on February 04, 2023, 02:04:21 PM

Reputation in the community is a pre-requirement for good projects.

On the second chance demand i think yes its the right of everyone and i belive bro you are going to get a second chance but it can take to come up again with a better face.

A second chance? Sure thing! Why stop at two when you can have a third, fourth, and maybe even a fifth chance?

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Quote from: BITCOIN4X on January 27, 2023, 12:08:52 PM

I'm also not one of those people you've directly or indirectly harmed, but there are plenty of other people in this community feeling the impact of your troubles. I think they can forgive you to some extent, but they should still remember you as a bad person when it comes to campaign management. I guess you will no longer be as clean as before regardless of how many DT's will remove the tag or turn it neutral.

Dear Incidents happen always, as you know the latest one was the wallet hack of julerz12 also I do consider that trust matters a lot but you know Julerz is still working, Royse still working and there are many bounty managers working here. I think it is most common with bounty managers to happen in various ways.

Reputation in the community is a pre-requirement for good projects.

On the second chance demand i think yes its the right of everyone and i belive bro you are going to get a second chance but it can take to come up again with a better face.

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Quote from: irfan_pak10 on February 03, 2023, 12:38:37 PM

I always believe in second chances that everyone should be given once in their life to prove themselves as we progress being humans we make mistakes once in a while. Jamal made some mistake and he is now repenting which I think is most important. I knew him from last few year and on some occesson we exchanged money and it all went smoothly. He has a good hear. Thats why I beliebve he should be given another chance here to prove himself .

I also believe in second chances and I think that in most cases the majority deserve to get such a chance. But this is not about a second chance, but about a third or as some say a fourth chance for the same member who obviously for some reason cannot resist turning to the dark side.

In addition, there is fairly solid evidence that at least one of his alt accounts has been permanently banned, which means that all other alt accounts, including the one for which he is apologizing, should suffer the same fate.

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Quote from: irfan_pak10 on February 03, 2023, 12:38:37 PM

I always believe in second chances that everyone should be given once in their life to prove themselves as we progress being humans we make mistakes once in a while. Jamal made some mistake and he is now repenting which I think is most important. I knew him from last few year and on some occesson we exchanged money and it all went smoothly. He has a good hear. Thats why I beliebve he should be given another chance here to prove himself .

It's not all about the mistake he did alone, but we need to consider the law that guide going through such mistakes, alot of people gave been into such and have been banned or left a number of tags, what we will dig more into is the kind of mistake OP has committed if it's the type that permit for a second chance or not, but we need to be careful when passing this judgement do that everyone will not later get into doing such mess and expect to appeal on reputation for a second chance as well, tags shouldn't bother him if he really never did what deserves such.

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Quote from: irfan_pak10 on February 03, 2023, 12:38:37 PM

I always believe in second chances that everyone should be given once in their life to prove themselves as we progress being humans we make mistakes once in a while. Jamal made some mistake and he is now repenting which I think is most important. I knew him from last few year and on some occesson we exchanged money and it all went smoothly. He has a good hear. Thats why I beliebve he should be given another chance here to prove himself .

I do not fully agree. He started off with 1 account, then moved on to something like 10, which is fine but 1 being atriz which he may or may not have pulled off some shady dealings with. Now, he suddenly doesn't control any of the accounts. I just don't buy that.

If he was actually repenting, I would say yes, but I don't feel like he is.

He took his chances for the account but failed. I don't think it matters much for him anymore. By now he already have few good rank ALT accounts, no one will ever know about it. A person with many mistake will continue it, not ignoring the question about alt account is a good proof.

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Quote from: irfan_pak10 on February 03, 2023, 12:38:37 PM

I always believe in second chances that everyone should be given once in their life to prove themselves as we progress being humans we make mistakes once in a while. Jamal made some mistake and he is now repenting which I think is most important. I knew him from last few year and on some occesson we exchanged money and it all went smoothly. He has a good hear. Thats why I beliebve he should be given another chance here to prove himself .

Not everyone deserve second chance especially if he made huge mistake which cost financial damage to many people.

He commit many mistakes so he deserves those feedbacks left on his account.

Huge chances that the same incident will happen again if there's big amount of money involve so to avoid the same thing to happen much better to remain all of the feedback in place and set this as a reminder to other that there's no going back if you commit huge mistake to other forum members.

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Quote from: irfan_pak10 on February 03, 2023, 12:38:37 PM

I always believe in second chances that everyone should be given once in their life to prove themselves as we progress being humans we make mistakes once in a while. Jamal made some mistake and he is now repenting which I think is most important. I knew him from last few year and on some occesson we exchanged money and it all went smoothly. He has a good hear. Thats why I beliebve he should be given another chance here to prove himself .

I do not fully agree. He started off with 1 account, then moved on to something like 10, which is fine but 1 being atriz which he may or may not have pulled off some shady dealings with. Now, he suddenly doesn't control any of the accounts. I just don't buy that.

If he was actually repenting, I would say yes, but I don't feel like he is.

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I always believe in second chances that everyone should be given once in their life to prove themselves as we progress being humans we make mistakes once in a while. Jamal made some mistake and he is now repenting which I think is most important. I knew him from last few year and on some occesson we exchanged money and it all went smoothly. He has a good hear. Thats why I beliebve he should be given another chance here to prove himself .

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Quote from: ScamViruS on January 30, 2023, 01:27:04 PM

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Quote from: ScamViruS on January 29, 2023, 12:01:36 PM

You have cheated using every means that can be used. Many of the projects you manage are scammed, and bounty hunters don't get paid what they deserve. You are responsible for this failure, because you should have done minimum researches before launching the bounty of any project, but you did not do it.

I don't think problem about Bounties campaign have been scam later but many project under @jamalaezaz have been success but never got payment yet although listing on market with higher price. There are not problem with little mistake about bounties campaign running have been scam later due pre sale not running well, but several his under controlling bounties was success and he don't give clearly about team project was sent payment or not.

Every one have mistake and I don't know what level kinds need forgiveness, now lets see how many DT give second chance for @jamalaezaz by removing their negative feedback.

I don't know the full extent of his past activities, but from what I do know, there are many reasons why his reputation is at such a bad level. I opened a thread about the Tokenpay Bounty he managed, but there was no proper reply from him. Tokenpay Scammed $350,000 bounty payment..

Jamalaezaz added many screenshots in Tokenpay's ANN thread, in which it is clear that he was involved in an argument with the Tokenpay team for the sake of getting referral commission. As a result the bounty hunters did not get paid. Because he was more concerned about the referral commission than the bounty payment.

Whose activities were like this, and did all kinds of cheating for the sake of money. Even if you give him a second, third, or unlimited chance, he will find new ways to cheat again.

From the looks, it seems @jamal was only concerned with his own interests for which he cheated on his own project which he managed leaving participants to their own fate. Reading from his past, I already know who he is. It is disappointing that he stoop so low of a bounty manager to have done such which is not expected of him. It is unethical and unprofessional to have gotten himself involved in such situations cheating bounty hunters and lastly, from what I saw in the token pay thread, it does really reflect of him as a good manager and that is very very bad of him.

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I do not remember seeing that thread before but he made one post in that thread you linked: Tokenpay Scammed $350,000 bounty payment... His answer is not exactly useful when looking at the context of the actual thread and also the Tokenpay ANN but I suppose he wrote a lot in the edited OP of the ANN thread where he says a lot about the non-payment so probably did not want to repeat.

Quote from: ScamViruS on January 30, 2023, 01:27:04 PM

I don't know the full extent of his past activities, but from what I do know, there are many reasons why his reputation is at such a bad level. I opened a thread about the Tokenpay Bounty he managed, but there was no proper reply from him. Tokenpay Scammed $350,000 bounty payment..

Jamalaezaz added many screenshots in Tokenpay's ANN thread, in which it is clear that he was involved in an argument with the Tokenpay team for the sake of getting referral commission. As a result the bounty hunters did not get paid. Because he was more concerned about the referral commission than the bounty payment.

Whose activities were like this, and did all kinds of cheating for the sake of money. Even if you give him a second, third, or unlimited chance, he will find new ways to cheat again.

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