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Topic: My Apology to Bitcoin Community and Request for another Chance - page 2. (Read 1316 times)

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You have cheated using every means that can be used. Many of the projects you manage are scammed, and bounty hunters don't get paid what they deserve. You are responsible for this failure, because you should have done minimum researches before launching the bounty of any project, but you did not do it.
I don't think problem about Bounties campaign have been scam later but many project under @jamalaezaz have been success but never got payment yet although listing on market with higher price. There are not problem with little mistake about bounties campaign running have been scam later due pre sale not running well, but several his under controlling bounties was success and he don't give clearly about team project was sent payment or not.

Every one have mistake and I don't know what level kinds need forgiveness, now lets see how many DT give second chance for @jamalaezaz by removing their negative feedback.

I don't know the full extent of his past activities, but from what I do know, there are many reasons why his reputation is at such a bad level. I opened a thread about the Tokenpay Bounty he managed, but there was no proper reply from him. Tokenpay Scammed $350,000 bounty payment..

Jamalaezaz added many screenshots in Tokenpay's ANN thread, in which it is clear that he was involved in an argument with the Tokenpay team for the sake of getting referral commission. As a result the bounty hunters did not get paid. Because he was more concerned about the referral commission than the bounty payment.

Whose activities were like this, and did all kinds of cheating for the sake of money. Even if you give him a second, third, or unlimited chance, he will find new ways to cheat again.
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I can only say Dare to do, must dare to be responsible.
Past mistakes have disappointed Hunters, they get nothing when your bounty is over. I'm not sure Hunters who have failed to get paid can take advantage of your mistakes, DT Members have personal views on the negative feedback they leave on your profile.
The word sorry from Hunter will not change anything on your profile, only DT members have the power to change everything. Then how about this https://archive.is/IoQib
legendary
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Really?

Yup - The connection was made a long time ago and has been run up the Flag pole by a handful of others over time too.




And as always this Timelord dude, he is practically every where doing a lot of work with no recognition from those above in the chain of command.🥱

Thanks for the kind words.  I'm much obliged as they say.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrzWv_M94a8
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I know the one and only forum Chymist is a bit harsh acting like a tough guy, but he has a big heart, in time he'll come around seeing changes not just words.
Yes, the cardiomegaly was noted on my last chest x-ray.  But if you're implying that a soft, cuddly teddy bear lies just beneath my gnarled and hardened exterior....well, you're probably right.  In this particular case however, I see very little hope for jamalaezaz getting his red trust removed (from me; I can't speak for everyone else who negged him all to hell). 

I don't like to use the word never, since my mind can change if situations change, if behavior improves, etc.  Honestly though, does jamalaezaz really think he's got a shot at scrubbing his trust page clean?  As you pointed out, Lutpin and marlboroza seem to have left the forum, and I think there's an infinitesimal chance of their negatives being removed.
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Alot of issues associated to OP is much than expected, so i wouldn't see any assurance from not having any reoccurrence in the future since this kind has landed him to the third time, the funny thing is that there are many other users in this manner thinking that they can get away with that, it's just a little more time for their bubbles to get bursted, they can't hide for long, the question you should asked yourself at first is that why do you have to start an unfinished business that will later turn a regret, try to check and work on yourself better than you thought you had done.
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Good luck finding Lutpin and Marlboro ( brand of a cigar, high quality stuff ). I know the one and only forum Chymist is a bit harsh acting like a tough guy, but he has a big heart, in time he'll come around seeing changes not just words.

And as always this Timelord dude, he is practically every where doing a lot of work with no recognition from those above in the chain of command.🥱
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aTriz [BPIP] [FLAG - archive [1] [2]] and jamalaezaz [BPIP] [FLAGS - archive [1] [2]] were controlled by the same account as recently as 11/9/2019 according to BPIPSec Log info and 1/13/2023 according to the FLAGS page.
Really?  I've had a few PM conversations with aTriz, and I could swear his English was at least 5 times better than jamalaezaz's.  I suppose the aTriz account could have changed hands, but that connection seems strange to me.

In any case, there seem to be a lot of people supporting OP based on his promises.  That's all fine and dandy, but apologies are useless and promises to not repeat shady behavior are just words until actions prove whether said promises were kept.  And from the point of view of a DT member who left a feedback that was meant to warn the community about some serious dishonesty, there's no way I'm going to remove a negative based on apologies and promises.  I've seen too many of them, and I'm too jaded to reverse a feedback in a case like this.
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Since you care so much about improving your reputation, I think you should start by giving back all the money that bounty hunters lost because of you in campaigns you managed.
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You have cheated using every means that can be used. Many of the projects you manage are scammed, and bounty hunters don't get paid what they deserve. You are responsible for this failure, because you should have done minimum researches before launching the bounty of any project, but you did not do it.
I don't think problem about Bounties campaign have been scam later but many project under @jamalaezaz have been success but never got payment yet although listing on market with higher price. There are not problem with little mistake about bounties campaign running have been scam later due pre sale not running well, but several his under controlling bounties was success and he don't give clearly about team project was sent payment or not.

Every one have mistake and I don't know what level kinds need forgiveness, now lets see how many DT give second chance for @jamalaezaz by removing their negative feedback.
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You have cheated using every means that can be used. Many of the projects you manage are scammed, and bounty hunters don't get paid what they deserve. You are responsible for this failure, because you should have done minimum researches before launching the bounty of any project, but you did not do it.

You broke the forum rules by farming accounts, and used those accounts to cheat on your own managed campaigns. This is not a small matter, you committed many crimes. Even if the community forgives you for this, I think you will try to repeat the previous activities again. You have done such activities in the past, I don't think the community will want to pollute this forum by giving you another chance.
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Well, Your case is getting worst than ever again. People started digging into it more and more, and it's getting worse. I don't see any reason to remove your feedback which already left feedback. People would consider to revise the tag if they see anything positive from your side and see others giving you chance. But nope, you have done too many mistakes and people finding more issues. BTW, Best of luck.
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I have read through and I found out that there are lots of stories surrounding you @jamal. It is unfortunate that you got yourself involved in account farming and cheating in your your own managed projects subjecting other's to working extra hours while awarding rewards to yourself which is very bad. It is easy to forgive but do you think it is easy to forget? Those people you put under financial hardships and pressure do you think some of them might be alive now?  It is disappointing that you did committed such a heinous crime to members of this platform.  Well I can not talk on behalf of others because I am not in their shoes they would better decide themselves on wether to forgive you and remove the tag or not but for the now, I rest my case.
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Thanks for being honest and straightforward, your points are valid, I understand that it is hard to believe someone who made several mistaks. but I don't have any intention of repeating those mistakes again.

I didn't say they were accidents. instead, I said they were not direct scams or theft attempts. also, I did not say that I am innocent.  I was indeed wrong and doing a mistake working with scammy projects without proper due diligence not once but multiple times, which caused harm to bounty hunters. but now I learned my lesson.


You've lied yet again. Why are the facts about your accounts' sales and merit being overlooked? These moments alone brought a lot of negative tags to some other accounts. Your farm still appears in the bounty. It looks like the hydra's heads appear here and there again and again.
In your case, it can be said that you have polluted the forum very much with your farm, and a person like you will not change.
But I'm wondering why you want to recover this account. Are all the big ranks sold?
Timelord2067, the flag is supported. You correctly noted that this scammer does not see the obvious; his existence on the forum is simply impossible.
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about the accounts. I don't have any of those anymore. i got rid of them long ago.

Even if you claim to have "got rid" of those accounts, you are still breaking the rules of this forum by evading bans, since at least one of your previous accounts has been banned. And you have been doing it for years.

Accounts connected: jamalaezaz, Btcschool, extrabyte

Proof: I have linked jamalaezaz and Btcschool previously
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aTriz [BPIP] [FLAG - archive [1] [2]] and jamalaezaz [BPIP] [FLAGS - archive [1] [2]] were controlled by the same account as recently as 11/9/2019 according to BPIPSec Log info and 1/13/2023 according to the FLAGS page.

I you look at the BPIP flag pages - Flag 2812 atriz opposed the lag against themself on that date while having not posted since 2021-07-25, 00:11:39

Uncanny how these two UID's flags were last updated within one hour of each other on BPIP as though someone had been looking at both?




The previous Flag against jamalaezaz I opposed as the creator of the Flag was not the creator of the thread and jamalaezaz was not the subject of that thread (my opposition was on the grounds the Flag was incorrectly created)  -  This thread is solely concerning jamalaezaz and after careful consideration, I have created a new Flag and asks others to support it, please.
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but I'll make sure no one loose money because of me in future.
As long as I'm not a mind reader of scammer assholes, I've never even convinced anyone that a seemingly docile dog would never bite.
Unless you mean, you'll quit your profession as a promoter. Obviously that's a better guarantee to hear.
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about the accounts. I don't have any of those anymore. i got rid of them long ago.

Even if you claim to have "got rid" of those accounts, you are still breaking the rules of this forum by evading bans, since at least one of your previous accounts has been banned. And you have been doing it for years.

Accounts connected: jamalaezaz, Btcschool, extrabyte

Proof: I have linked jamalaezaz and Btcschool previously
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5/20/2019 6:20:47 AM   Changed to Archived status   Autoban user

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I'm just going to put this here before it gets quoted and the quotes under it are the ones I refer to in my negative trust feedback:

Just found a huge farm that involves a member that has been here for several years.

List of connected alts discussed in this thread (there are dozens others):

jamalaezaz
aTriz

Aaaqibsardar (banned)
Kohatiiboy (banned)

Travel Standard
Btcschool
businessgirl
Super Raju
Starbase

Hobo66

joinfamily
Handpari
Anamika1000
Pandy mast
Aadii8430
fortune1002

Digital_Lord
killerman2

It all starts here:


Sneaky said atriz repaid them 0.3ETH and atriz confirmed it (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.42771511 archived here http://archive.is/rcEMg):

*snip*

My research leads to old 2 years old timelord's finding https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14190362 where they connected 3 accounts: jamalaezaz, Btcschool, extrabyte

Now, taking deeper look at transactions:

Accounts connected: jamalaezaz, Btcschool, extrabyte

Proof: I have linked jamalaezaz and Btcschool previously

@LFC_Bitcoin - please review the above and reconsider your removed distrust in this person.




The previous Flag against jamalaezaz I opposed as the creator of the Flag was not the creator of the thread and jamalaezaz was not the subject of that thread (my opposition was on the grounds the Flag was incorrectly created)  -  This thread is solely concerning jamalaezaz and after careful consideration, I have created a new Flag and asks others to support it, please.
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I am one of those who supported the flag against you because it was unresolved and you never drop a line there not to defend yourself but tried to correct the things that were done to the accusers, like all the others here I don't think the feedbacks should be taken down, without you doing something to correct them not just asking for another chance.
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I wish I could pay everyone who spends time working for bounty programs I managed. but I don't have enough funds for that.. but I'll make sure no one loose money because of me in future.
I'm just really unsure about your promise, while on your trust list page it states that:

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Lauda alleges: Due largely to the factors mentioned in this topic, I believe that anyone dealing with jamalaezaz is at a high risk of losing money, and guests would be well-advised to avoid doing so.

I don't know how you can convince people not to risk losing money working with you again, when your reputation has been so messed up so far. I'm not for the flag or in the opposition, that's because I didn't know much about your case in past. It's just that after this you can do good things, you can still use this account but not necessarily clean your reputation. Good luck with your endeavors, jamalaezaz.
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I can see so many comments here. I'll try to answer as much as I can.



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   This user asked kindly for a third chance so in the spirit of forgiveness I have revised this trust rating from negative to neutral.

Are you serious? The trust left by nutildah says that the OP got a third chance. Read again—not the second, but the third. In this case, it can be said that a person who repents should not repeat his mistakes in the future. In the case of the OP, the third time does not mean he blames himself somewhere. He will get a third chance and soon break it, as he will repent of the fourth.
Read his post; according to him, he did nothing to anyone intentionally. He did everything by accident.

Thanks for being honest and straightforward, your points are valid, I understand that it is hard to believe someone who made several mistaks. but I don't have any intention of repeating those mistakes again.

I didn't say they were accidents. instead, I said they were not direct scams or theft attempts. also, I did not say that I am innocent.  I was indeed wrong and doing a mistake working with scammy projects without proper due diligence not once but multiple times, which caused harm to bounty hunters. but now I learned my lesson.

Paying those mismanagement using your own funds is what makes your negative trust remove easily rather than creating an open letter asking for forgiveness to mistakes that you commit multiple times way back to the time when you are active in campaign management.

I knew a lot of user here with negative feedback and still continue with their work to improve their mistake. You should follow that way instead of making request like this. Royse777 is the best example here.

I wish I could pay everyone who spends time working for bounty programs I managed. but I don't have enough funds for that.. but I'll make sure no one loose money because of me in future.


Actually, It’s based on the feedback left by nutildah on his trust page. In that feedback, he was given a third pass in the spirit of forgiveness so I guess the heading of the OP is misleading as he should be asking for a fourth chance.
had no intention of misleading anyone. you need to understand the context. I counted all my past mistakes together and asked for a 2nd chance..
Anyway, I am changing the title with different words to avoid misleading.

We don't know how you changed or not. Who knows? Maybe you want another chance, and you will repeat the same thing again and again because everyone is saying it's your fourth time. I wasn't there, so I don't know the case entirely. Just saw the other thread and accusations. Marlboroza left the forum, and Lutpin is not active these days. He was active a week ago. You can DM Lutpin to check this thread and make any changes if he wants.
I don't have any intention to repeat it again and again. thanks for showing concern tho. I understand it is not easy to trust someone.

I take full responsibility for the mistakes I have made in the past

but I have made poor choices and worked with scam projects as a bounty manager. However, I did not run away, but stayed here and continued using the forum.
When you're making an apology and say you're taking full responsibility for "mistakes", it's never a good idea to put a "but" in it, which is exactly what you've done.  I don't believe you're either apologizing or trying to make amends to the community, nor do I believe your promises that you won't keep on doing what you've been doing.

I'm going to be completely honest here: I suggested you open up a thread here so that everyone could blast you to smithereens, and I didn't really think you'd open yourself up to so much scrutiny and criticism given how much negative feedback you have.  The red trust I gave you was from March of 2018, and since then you've only continued to get more negatives from other members.  I've got a feeling you're asking me for feedback removal almost 3 years after it was given because you're planning on getting involved in some big project in which it's likely people are going to get screwed.

I believe in second chances, believe me, but you've used up any goodwill points you might have had with people who've seen you fuck things up for years.  My feedback will stand.
Mate. I respect your decision of keeping your feedback. you have full rights to not remove that and I have no hard feelings about that. that "but" was in another context sorry if that made you think I am pretending to apologize but also trying to say that I am innocent.
that's not true. I know I am wrong. I did mistakes and admit those.
I understand that it is not easy to trust someone who made multiple mistakes

about last part of your comment.
I absolutely have no intention of screwing anyone again. and there is no big projects I am getting involved with anytime soon. if I get a project again specially if it is a bounty program to manage. I'll make sure their tokens are escrowed with a trusted escrow first.

thanks for the time to write your opinion.


I used to chat quite a bit on telegram with Jamal and let him do some translations on a bounty or 2. We had some good conversations.  I thought at the time he was a good guy going through some hardships and I have a soft spot in my heart for people dealing with situations.

With all that being said, he does have a load of accounts and I think if he truly seeks forgiveness he should start by admitting the account names he controls and let people check and see how much shady activity he might have partook in.

I think on order to have a clean start 1 should be honest about their whole past.
thanks, yahoo for remembering that time and giving me those opportunities to work with you. I'll always appreciat that.. but I must refresh your mind that, that was skype not telegram.

about the accounts. I don't have any of those anymore. i got rid of them long ago.

I found this thread and also received your PM. As my name was mentioned here I will make a comment.

I have to say that after taking all things available to me at the moment (information, feedback, comments) in to consideration, I have decided that I will not remove nor revise the negative feedback that I left.

That does not mean it cannot be revised in the future but it will probably only happen if there are absolutely exceptional circumstances, therefore highly unlikely.

thanks for taking the time and for the write-up mate. I totally respect your decision.. and would really appreciate if you change your mind. no pressure and hard feelings.



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