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vip
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May 17, 2015, 02:44:28 PM

Great thread. But who is "Nick Szabo"?( that's a lot of "aka's" listed there )

Andrew N Szabo, ~48
Madison, WI
Known also: Andrew Nicholas Szabo · Alexander Szabo · Andrew A Szabo · Andrew E Szabo · Alexander Azabo · Nicholas Szabo

Lived in: Madison, WI · Providence, RI · Cupertino, CA · Somerville, MA · Etna, NH

Related to: Andreas Kammer ~42 · Nicholas Szabo ~84 · Alexander Szabo ~52 · Marcia Szabo ~82 · Douglas Kammer ~69

You forgot his brother, Frank, the rabbit breeder in Ohio.

Might as well get this thread back on the first page since Nick is back in the spotlight.

His brother, Frank, is a rabbit breeder in Ohio. See the connections? Going down the rabbit hole; Satoshis breeding like rabbits (or something like that, but you get my drift).
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February 27, 2015, 01:29:08 PM
I wrestled back and forth with it, but came to a 52% belief that Mochizuki is not a real person.  I scoured the net and found only 2 weird pics.  A homepage like szabos, with a message saying "I was here x days ago, don't come looking for me".

Nash does in fact have every single marker of satoshi, regardless if he did the code or not.  And so his leture "ideal money" ecompasses the entire bitcoin project.

What is interesting is I found a lecture called "an interesting formula", which is nearly as cryptic as ideal money, and seems to be a perfect outline that sets the stage for Interuniversal Teichmeiller theory. 

After reading and re reading Shinichi's work, even as a skeptic, I have to say they are both absolutely different than everyone else, yet the same as each other, in many ways.

Greece is threatening to exit the euro and peg to gold, and there is a conspiracy going around they are going to peg to something using smart contracts.  Smart contracs (ethereum) comes out likely this next money (was the plan), and mochizuki gives a lecture this month.

Maybe its crazy, but at the least, i can perfectly see how all this connects even if its completely different peoples.

Woo wooo woooo mochizuki gives a lecture this month?!?! Link?!?!
also, link for this pls
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What is interesting is I found a lecture called "an interesting formula",
legendary
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February 27, 2015, 04:54:13 AM
I propose a game.  It's called "I am Spartacus!"

Next time the question comes up, just claim that you are Satoshi Nakamoto.  And I don't mean any one of you, I mean every one of us. 

Anytime a reporter asks.  Any time a newbie asks.  Any time one of these spec threads comes up.  There's one right answer, and the answer is,

"I am Satoshi Nakamoto."

Seriously, let's try it. 

Sounds interesting as we are one community towards the good of btc
The Satoshi Nakamoto Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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February 27, 2015, 12:56:22 AM
I wrestled back and forth with it, but came to a 52% belief that Mochizuki is not a real person.  I scoured the net and found only 2 weird pics.  A homepage like szabos, with a message saying "I was here x days ago, don't come looking for me".

Nash does in fact have every single marker of satoshi, regardless if he did the code or not.  And so his leture "ideal money" ecompasses the entire bitcoin project.

What is interesting is I found a lecture called "an interesting formula", which is nearly as cryptic as ideal money, and seems to be a perfect outline that sets the stage for Interuniversal Teichmeiller theory. 

After reading and re reading Shinichi's work, even as a skeptic, I have to say they are both absolutely different than everyone else, yet the same as each other, in many ways.

Greece is threatening to exit the euro and peg to gold, and there is a conspiracy going around they are going to peg to something using smart contracts.  Smart contracs (ethereum) comes out likely this next money (was the plan), and mochizuki gives a lecture this month.

Maybe its crazy, but at the least, i can perfectly see how all this connects even if its completely different peoples.
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February 26, 2015, 12:54:34 PM
This is pretty interesting and jaw dropping , though their are resemblance but i don't think this guy is satoshi

Maybe not exactly him, but of Team Satoshi with this guy: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adubinsky

Take a look at their site: http://www.encomia.com/

NOW, take a look at its first archive: http://web.archive.org/web/20000824023828/http://www.encomia.com/admin/signup/aua.cfm

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Your use of the Service and the Sites is at your own risk. NEITHER Encomia.com, NOR WORLDWIDE NETFAST CORP. NOR ANY OF ITS SUBSIDIARIES, DIVISIONS, AFFILIATES, AGENTS [...]

http://www.trademarkia.com/netfast-75472686.html

Netfast is one of those domain sites (think NameCoin).

WTH! :O but still man! i don't know i got a gut feeling that satoshi is a single guy
legendary
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February 26, 2015, 12:53:02 PM
I propose a game.  It's called "I am Spartacus!"

Next time the question comes up, just claim that you are Satoshi Nakamoto.  And I don't mean any one of you, I mean every one of us. 

Anytime a reporter asks.  Any time a newbie asks.  Any time one of these spec threads comes up.  There's one right answer, and the answer is,

"I am Satoshi Nakamoto."

Seriously, let's try it. 
legendary
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February 26, 2015, 11:24:28 AM
I still don't see any strong connections of Dubinsky being Satoshi. I mean, could be, but there are more hints that Szabo or Shinichi Mochizuki are SN
It's all conspiracy theories that get us nowhere.
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February 26, 2015, 11:23:20 AM
Doesn't matter who is satoshi to me , just hope he is good , since if he/they/she is/are dead , that's alot of lose of btc

Why do you think he/she'd be dead?
When you don't hear from someone for a long time , and no news of them .
That's one of the assumption that they can be pretty much dead

Or hiding. He/she/they can also be hiding. What if he/she/they are pretty much alive and doesn't want their identities to be known to the general public, much more to the governments and financial institutions? No news from somebody or anybody isn't a proof of their death. He/she/they can be pretty much alive; they just don't want their identities to be known. For security purposes, maybe?

Exactly! that is why i said their is a possibity of death scenario too
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February 26, 2015, 03:43:48 AM
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In November 1999, a series of articles in the Laissez Faire City Times presented the Digital Monetary Trust project,[27] which was a proposed financial trust providing private, anonymous accounts for individuals and entities within the DMT system, in order to securely store anonymous capital or to make anonymous monetary transactions.

"That is, the DMT will be in the business of providing privacy, and doing so in a cryptographical framework which provides a more solid basis for customer anonymity than the traditional ones of (allegedly) tight-lipped bankers or (often-leaky) banking secrecy laws."

—Orlin Grabbe

James Orlin Grabbe supposedly died from heart failure around March 15, 2008 in San José, Costa Rica.
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I really like this one since not only does the "Digital Monetary Trust project" fit as a real world test run to the Bitcoin Concept and Purpose, but also when Grabbe died (3/15/2008) shortly thereafter, Satoshi Nakamoto starts popping up online on forums discussing such ideas which ultimately leads to the whitepaper (i don't know the official publishing date, but in 2008).
November 1, 2008, Satoshi posts this: http://www.mail-archive.com/cryptography%40metzdowd.com/msg09959.html
Basically 7.5 months later after Grabbe's death.
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February 25, 2015, 06:11:16 PM
I still don't see any strong connections of Dubinsky being Satoshi. I mean, could be, but there are more hints that Szabo or Shinichi Mochizuki are SN

Don't forget Zooko.


I once made a long, long list, including Zooko

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=912930.0;all
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February 25, 2015, 05:31:14 PM
I still don't see any strong connections of Dubinsky being Satoshi. I mean, could be, but there are more hints that Szabo or Shinichi Mochizuki are SN

Don't forget Zooko.
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February 25, 2015, 05:25:29 PM
I still don't see any strong connections of Dubinsky being Satoshi. I mean, could be, but there are more hints that Szabo or Shinichi Mochizuki are SN
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February 25, 2015, 05:20:32 PM
down the rabbit hole we go.
 Huh Huh
legendary
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February 25, 2015, 02:34:43 PM
https://www.linkedin.com/in/adubinsky

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Orchestrated development of first 3rd-party electronic vault technology for storage of transferable electronic assets, enabling financial documents to be signed electronically and providing storage/auditing of electronic financial instruments.

And, founded Netfast.

Is it just me or I can't really find some connection with this man in regards to being Satoshi Nakamoto. Am I missing something important here? If so, kindly direct me to it, please.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Orlin_Grabbe#Wharton_School_of_Business

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One of Grabbe's students, Andrew Krieger,[12] became a Bankers Trust FX trader and the author of The Money Bazaar.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Orlin_Grabbe#Digital_Monetary_Trust

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In November 1999, a series of articles in the Laissez Faire City Times presented the Digital Monetary Trust project,[27] which was a proposed financial trust providing private, anonymous accounts for individuals and entities within the DMT system, in order to securely store anonymous capital or to make anonymous monetary transactions.

"That is, the DMT will be in the business of providing privacy, and doing so in a cryptographical framework which provides a more solid basis for customer anonymity than the traditional ones of (allegedly) tight-lipped bankers or (often-leaky) banking secrecy laws."

—Orlin Grabbe

James Orlin Grabbe supposedly died from heart failure around March 15, 2008 in San José, Costa Rica.

Andrew Krieger and Andrew Dubinsky oversee encomia.com.

Okay it's starting to make some connections. But how about the last sentence? Sorry if I'm being a complete ignorant with all this matter.  Grin

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Andrew Krieger and Andrew Dubinsky oversee encomia.com.

I don't consider your questions as being an ass, bud.

https://www.linkedin.com/in/adubinsky

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Andrew Krieger

Chief Operating Officer

I strongly endorse Andrew Krieger as a highly effective sales, marketing and operations executive. His market strategy and leadership efforts were instrumental in achieving rapid revenue growth (15x in one year), best in class brand positioning (digital and traditional) and high profile account wins (Including Wachovia, Wells Fargo and DHI). During the mortgage banking crash, Andrew demonstrated exceptional leadership through proactive restructuring, new market strategies and aggressive sales efforts. He would surely be a major asset to any executive team.

June 27, 2014, Andrew managed Andrew at Encomia

Now it makes sense. Thanks for your response on my queries. Now I understand why Dubinsky was being pointed out as a candidate to the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto.  Grin
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February 25, 2015, 02:19:33 PM
https://www.linkedin.com/in/adubinsky

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Orchestrated development of first 3rd-party electronic vault technology for storage of transferable electronic assets, enabling financial documents to be signed electronically and providing storage/auditing of electronic financial instruments.

And, founded Netfast.

Is it just me or I can't really find some connection with this man in regards to being Satoshi Nakamoto. Am I missing something important here? If so, kindly direct me to it, please.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Orlin_Grabbe#Wharton_School_of_Business

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One of Grabbe's students, Andrew Krieger,[12] became a Bankers Trust FX trader and the author of The Money Bazaar.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Orlin_Grabbe#Digital_Monetary_Trust

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In November 1999, a series of articles in the Laissez Faire City Times presented the Digital Monetary Trust project,[27] which was a proposed financial trust providing private, anonymous accounts for individuals and entities within the DMT system, in order to securely store anonymous capital or to make anonymous monetary transactions.

"That is, the DMT will be in the business of providing privacy, and doing so in a cryptographical framework which provides a more solid basis for customer anonymity than the traditional ones of (allegedly) tight-lipped bankers or (often-leaky) banking secrecy laws."

—Orlin Grabbe

James Orlin Grabbe supposedly died from heart failure around March 15, 2008 in San José, Costa Rica.

Andrew Krieger and Andrew Dubinsky oversee encomia.com.

Okay it's starting to make some connections. But how about the last sentence? Sorry if I'm being a complete ignorant with all this matter.  Grin

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Andrew Krieger and Andrew Dubinsky oversee encomia.com.

I don't consider your questions as being an ass, bud.

https://www.linkedin.com/in/adubinsky

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Andrew Krieger

Chief Operating Officer

I strongly endorse Andrew Krieger as a highly effective sales, marketing and operations executive. His market strategy and leadership efforts were instrumental in achieving rapid revenue growth (15x in one year), best in class brand positioning (digital and traditional) and high profile account wins (Including Wachovia, Wells Fargo and DHI). During the mortgage banking crash, Andrew demonstrated exceptional leadership through proactive restructuring, new market strategies and aggressive sales efforts. He would surely be a major asset to any executive team.

June 27, 2014, Andrew managed Andrew at Encomia
legendary
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February 25, 2015, 02:10:42 PM
https://www.linkedin.com/in/adubinsky

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Orchestrated development of first 3rd-party electronic vault technology for storage of transferable electronic assets, enabling financial documents to be signed electronically and providing storage/auditing of electronic financial instruments.

And, founded Netfast.

Is it just me or I can't really find some connection with this man in regards to being Satoshi Nakamoto. Am I missing something important here? If so, kindly direct me to it, please.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Orlin_Grabbe#Wharton_School_of_Business

Quote
One of Grabbe's students, Andrew Krieger,[12] became a Bankers Trust FX trader and the author of The Money Bazaar.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Orlin_Grabbe#Digital_Monetary_Trust

Quote
In November 1999, a series of articles in the Laissez Faire City Times presented the Digital Monetary Trust project,[27] which was a proposed financial trust providing private, anonymous accounts for individuals and entities within the DMT system, in order to securely store anonymous capital or to make anonymous monetary transactions.

"That is, the DMT will be in the business of providing privacy, and doing so in a cryptographical framework which provides a more solid basis for customer anonymity than the traditional ones of (allegedly) tight-lipped bankers or (often-leaky) banking secrecy laws."

—Orlin Grabbe

James Orlin Grabbe supposedly died from heart failure around March 15, 2008 in San José, Costa Rica.

Andrew Krieger and Andrew Dubinsky oversee encomia.com.

Okay it's starting to make some connections. But how about the last sentence? Sorry if I'm being a complete ignorant with all this matter.  Grin

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Andrew Krieger and Andrew Dubinsky oversee encomia.com.
vip
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February 25, 2015, 02:07:48 PM
https://www.linkedin.com/in/adubinsky

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Orchestrated development of first 3rd-party electronic vault technology for storage of transferable electronic assets, enabling financial documents to be signed electronically and providing storage/auditing of electronic financial instruments.

And, founded Netfast.

Is it just me or I can't really find some connection with this man in regards to being Satoshi Nakamoto. Am I missing something important here? If so, kindly direct me to it, please.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Orlin_Grabbe#Wharton_School_of_Business

Quote
One of Grabbe's students, Andrew Krieger,[12] became a Bankers Trust FX trader and the author of The Money Bazaar.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Orlin_Grabbe#Digital_Monetary_Trust

Quote
In November 1999, a series of articles in the Laissez Faire City Times presented the Digital Monetary Trust project,[27] which was a proposed financial trust providing private, anonymous accounts for individuals and entities within the DMT system, in order to securely store anonymous capital or to make anonymous monetary transactions.

"That is, the DMT will be in the business of providing privacy, and doing so in a cryptographical framework which provides a more solid basis for customer anonymity than the traditional ones of (allegedly) tight-lipped bankers or (often-leaky) banking secrecy laws."

—Orlin Grabbe

James Orlin Grabbe supposedly died from heart failure around March 15, 2008 in San José, Costa Rica.

Andrew Krieger and Andrew Dubinsky oversee encomia.com.
legendary
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February 25, 2015, 01:59:53 PM
https://www.linkedin.com/in/adubinsky

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Orchestrated development of first 3rd-party electronic vault technology for storage of transferable electronic assets, enabling financial documents to be signed electronically and providing storage/auditing of electronic financial instruments.

And, founded Netfast.

Is it just me or I can't really find some connection with this man in regards to being Satoshi Nakamoto. Am I missing something important here? If so, kindly direct me to it, please.
vip
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February 25, 2015, 01:43:21 PM
https://www.linkedin.com/in/adubinsky

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Orchestrated development of first 3rd-party electronic vault technology for storage of transferable electronic assets, enabling financial documents to be signed electronically and providing storage/auditing of electronic financial instruments.

And, founded Netfast.
legendary
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February 25, 2015, 01:30:36 PM
Nick posted again today, (praising ethereum once again;) and I was reading and I noticed his use of the term "block chain" instead of "blockchain"

Satoshi never said blockchain. He calls the ledger block chain.  Shocked


2 years ago I decided to scan Satoshi's forum posts here just to see if there was anything anomalous about his writing style.  Anything that stood out to me.  The first thing I noticed was that he constantly hyphenates things.  He never misses a properly hyphenated phrase.  He *always* hyphenates things.  Word phrases 99% of people have no idea should be hyphenated, he hyphenates.  In fact I almost wondered if he was over-hyphenating.  Doing it randomly sometimes.  In any case .... take a look at Szabos writings .... cough ...

http://unenumerated.blogspot.com/2014/12/the-dawn-of-trustworthy-computing.html

From that page alone:

ticket-selling at a movie theater
other kinds of every-day commerce
analog or paper-based institutions
participate in e-commerce
Turing-complete block chain
efforts included state-machine replication
dawn of the general-purpose personal computer
other interesting trust-minimized operations
the much-discussed "51% attack"
the oft-used word
mouthful "trust-minimized"
the cashier and ticket-ripper
decentralized or peer-to-peer
new fiduciary-intensive applications
off-chain assets or controls on-chain ones
other chain-titled assets
dry (on-chain) performance
traditional off-chain
into a single chain-controlled risk pool
low-hanging fruit

-B-

Stylometric analysis? Satoshi Nakamoto stated that he was a 37 year-old man living in Japan (or at least a Japanese, I forgot) when he introduced bitcoin. But by the style of his writing (and the different comments on the source code such as "bloody hell") suggested that he/she/they could be living somewhere in the Commonwealth. And based on what I've read, among reading the timestamps on the source code, he/she/they was probably asleep during 5am-11am GMT. And all of those are only based on what I've read.

Interesting man or group of people. Such a genius digital masterpiece created.
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