Topic: My jaw is still on the floor. - page 4. (Read 35717 times)

Now is final days to buy cheap coins 

I think we came to a good consensus in this thread that BitCoin was mostly created in the comment sections of the "Nanobarter", "BitGold" & "BitGold-Markets" blogs. What happened in private emails and Meet-ups may never be known. Szabo & Zooko or maybe Jim McCoy? We may never know. IMHO...Nick Szabo's "BitGold" and Hal Finney's "RPOW" along with Jim McCoys "MojoNation" and Adam Back's "HashCash" made all this possible in one way or another. They had dedicated their lives since at least 1993 to bring p2p anonymous digital currency to us.
http://unenumerated.blogspot.com/2007/06/nanobarter.html?m=1
http://unenumerated.blogspot.com/2005/12/bit-gold.html?m=1
http://unenumerated.blogspot.com/2008/04/bit-gold-markets.html?m=1

Not too many people or one of them or a relative of one of them would have talk already. It is likely than someone will talk about how it started in the next 20 years.

I think the code along with bitcoin was likely written/created by more than one person. Bitcoin just seems like a community effort from the start.

The problem with Jim McCoy is his location during 2008-2010. He has normally been based out of Texas. That's not the right time zone for Satoshi. I don't have any info on his location during the time Satoshi was posting, so I have to assume he was still in Texas, which removes him from the list.(even though he is one of the best possibilities)

@ Billbags

So you are suggesting that sentence above from Nick Szabo should read like this?

"Only Finney(RPOW) and McCoy(MojoNation) were motivated enough to actually implement such a scheme”.

That's a very possible theory.....

“Satoshi is first and foremost a coder, not a writer. Szabo is a writer first and coder second.” ~ Wei Dai

Satoshi states early in the mailing list that he did it backwards, writing code first then writing the white paper:

Satoshi quote:
"I appreciate your questions. I actually did this kind of backwards. I had to
write all the code before I could convince myself that I could solve every
problem, then I wrote the paper. I think I will be able to release the code
sooner than I could write a detailed spec. You're already right about most of
your assumptions where you filled in the blanks." ~ Satoshi Nakamoto
http://www.mail-archive.com/cryptography%40metzdowd.com/msg09980.html

NOTE: There is someone else who had this habbit to "code first" with no white paper and very little notes:

Jim McCoy
http://www.salon.com/2000/10/09/mojo_nation/
http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.network.peer-to-peer.p2p-hackers/1953
https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg01620.html
https://tahoe-lafs.org/pipermail/tahoe-dev/2008-March/000461.html

Jim McCoy quote:
"A lot of our various ideas and implementation changes were either lost when whiteboards were re-tasked (at one point we were actually using polaroid snapshots of whiteboards to maintain internal history or never explained even in the code......((((no one really had the inclination to write up white papers or discuss design decisions in email, so we ended up leaving less of a digital trail)))) than anyone would have liked."
http://unenumerated.blogspot.com/2007/06/nanobarter.html?m=1


Szabo, Zooko & McCoy:

Jim McCoy quote:
"I'd be quite interested in more detail about what you tried to implement and how it compares to what I have proposed....At some point we should sync up over vast quantities of alcohol and I can describe various approaches that were proposed, implemented, or abandoned."

Nick Szabo quote:
"Jim, I do appreciate your comments, and I'd love to learn more over beer (but not until August -- bar exam :-)."

"I have extensively studied barter and money systems (in addition to working for David Chaum and playing a major role setting up a certificate authority) and do believe I have some insights."

Note: The relation between Zooko and Jim McCoy needs to be understood.....Zooko was just using Jim's earlier work to create a new system using parts of MojoNation. Understand that Jim McCoy is the real "Drive" behind the creation of these types of p2p schemes. McCoy has spent most of his life and millions of his own dollars in trying to find the best scheme for his MojoNation ideas.(That's right, he's extremely wealthy.)

Nick Szabo: “(assuming Nakamoto is not really Finney or Dai)”…..Only Finney (RPOW) and Nakamoto were motivated enough to actually implement such a scheme”.
http://unenumerated.blogspot.com/2011/05/bitcoin-what-took-ye-so-long.html?m=1

First verse finished! i need to write the hook, another verse, and record it properly using an actual mic
https://soundcloud.com/proofofbeats/whonakamoto

I don't think szabo wrote the code. I think someone helped him "code one up" if you know what i mean!

Has anyone performed a stylometric analysis of the initial Bitcoin core against code published by the usual suspects?  Are there any code samples out there attributed to Szabo?

Tool: https://psal.cs.drexel.edu/index.php/JStylo-Anonymouth

Satoshi could be nick szabo but there is probably a 1 2 or 3% chance only that it's him.

Yeah I've read it.. It is a good read.. But I guess reading this whole thread would do the trick.

This is also one of Szabo's last tweets.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoofvKI_Okg

Pretty interesting. BTW, you'll crack up (like a child) at 4:13. Shit even she starts caracking up! lol she can't keep a straight face

he tweeted this a while back
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/why-bitcoin-isnt-like-internet-joichi-ito

Try slapping her a few times to see if she comes to. The suggestion's based on a women I once did down south where she was referred to as O'Possum (spelling and pronunciation as depicted) to the locals. BTW, when I stated slap, I meant spank - Amy-style - over your knees.

30 chest compressions.....2 breaths.....checking for pulse.......

^ No more than covered in this thread. He does hire a code expert to analyze the usual suspects code styles. He also has direct contact with several of the people we have been looking at. Dominic's book is really a good read.

how deep does the book go into the cypherpunk movement ?

very interesting..

For anyone who likes this thread...... The book in the following link is a must read  

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00NNLWRRM/ref=aw_ss_kndl_dp/