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July 05, 2011, 08:33:16 PM
#30
That's a great call Bruce, I hope to see Tom on your show soon.

I would very much like to see Tom on that show.
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July 05, 2011, 08:26:04 PM
#29
That's a great call Bruce, I hope to see Tom on your show soon.
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July 05, 2011, 06:56:01 PM
#28

For the record, I do not believe that MyBitcoin.com is a scam.   I think that they -- like most bitcoin startups -- have challenges with responding to customer inquiries, and with communication in general.


AN OPEN LETTER TO TOM WILLIAMS

I would very much like to interview you on The Bitcoin Show.... (or at least a representative of MyBitcoin).   I think that putting a face and a voice behind MyBitcoin would go a very long way toward showing the community that you are real people... with the best intentions.

I told the guys at MtGox the same thing... when the hack happened... and I believe I was right.   Appearing on camera has probably been the single most important show of good faith that MtGox has done.

I hope you will consider appearing as a guest on The Bitcoin Show soon.    You know how to contact me.

Thanks.

Bruce Wagner
[email protected]
+1 646-580-0022
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July 05, 2011, 05:11:23 PM
#27
No issues with mybitcoin, not sure how there is allways some vague user making claims like OP yet actually provide no evidence of said claim.

What evidence would you require, oh vague user?

Need I say more, oh noob user.
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July 05, 2011, 05:04:28 PM
#26
No issues with mybitcoin, not sure how there is allways some vague user making claims like OP yet actually provide no evidence of said claim.

What evidence would you require, oh vague user?
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July 05, 2011, 04:56:31 PM
#25
No issues with mybitcoin, not sure how there is allways some vague user making claims like OP yet actually provide no evidence of said claim.
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July 05, 2011, 04:29:22 PM
#24

Your statement at best is sophomoric...  and at worse it's just liable.   


Um, do you perhaps mean "libel"?

I know the US has degenerated a lot, but last time I checked, you were still allowed to have opinions.

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July 05, 2011, 04:23:01 PM
#23
Entrusting your money to a web site registered to a PO Box in the West Indies with numerous complaints of theft is a bad idea. It really looks like their business model is to steal accounts, just not all of them at once (since that would make it too obvious that they were a scam all along).

Using an "online wallet service" is a terrible idea. You're entrusting your money to an anonymous scammer.

That's what I thought at first, but I ended up using mybitcoin.com afterall.  They do provide a very useful service: instant irreversible transactions between accounts.

If I meet someone at a coffeeshop for a cash transaction, and the bitcoin have been placed in a mybitcoin account ahead of time, then the whole exchange takes only a few seconds.  The received bitcoin can be automatically forwarded to your home address for the hour-long transfer -- long after you've left the coffeeshop.  Both sides have only a small amount on mybitcoin, and only for a short time (a few hours).  And you get a timestamped email to remember the exact details.

That said, if the person you're dealing with doesn't look very shady, it's quite safe to only wait for the first confirmation.  Ten minutes or so isn't that big of a deal.

With mybitcoin.com, you should understand that you're not dealing with an established company with 1000 employees.  You're dealing with a guy.  Or at most a small group of guys.  Customer service probably isn't going to be a strength for quite some time (if ever).

My impression is that he knows a lot about computer security.  Clearly he is not a rank amateur -- read this statement on the Mt.Gox fiasco:
  https://www.mybitcoin.com/downloads/incident-report-2011-06-22.txt

He also knows something about protecting anonymity.  He's probably an American or Canadian who has set up shop offshore in order to protect himself against the coming government backlash.  I can respect that.

These are still early days for the bitcoin movement.  Perhaps mybitcoin.com will end up only serving those who really need anonymity, and other services will emerge to provide instant transactions with a friendlier (and probably less secure) interface.  Let's not jump to conclusions, either way.

Tom Williams:  Understand that your company's reputation is more important than the technical details you're busily working on right now.  Don't sacrifice one for the other.  Respond to this issue immediately, and resolve it to lettucebee's satisfaction.

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July 05, 2011, 04:03:25 PM
#22
His point is.. you can't eat paper money to survive. If paper money loses its value and you can't buy food, people will work for food.

I'm glad this was brought up as a defense to the claim that people are spending real money on fake internet money.

Real money doesn't matter because you can't eat it.
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July 05, 2011, 04:01:53 PM
#21
Never a issue when I have used mybitcoin for quick transactions. I never forget passwords though  Wink
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July 05, 2011, 03:56:43 PM
#20

We're in the process of revising the BitcoinMe.com page where we recommend how to Buy, Use, and Store your Bitcoins.

For the record, Bruce Wagner has always responded quickly and thoughtfully to my pleas. Thank you, Bruce. You seem like a swell fellow!
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July 05, 2011, 03:43:04 PM
#19
I´m using mybitcoin since some months with different accounts and never had a problem with them (beside centralization which makes Bitcoins useless and some downtimes but i dont really care about them), so i dont think its a scam, the problem is more that its for free and they dont have the money to hire support monkeys.
 


So you want flexcoin to charge a transaction fee to label it legit?   We're still only 90% formulated on the business model,  so if that is what people want?



As i tried to say, i am happy with mybitcoin. But perhaps a paid for e-wallet with support would be nice for nervous people.
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July 05, 2011, 03:40:27 PM
#18
I´m using mybitcoin since some months with different accounts and never had a problem with them (beside centralization which makes Bitcoins useless and some downtimes but i dont really care about them), so i dont think its a scam, the problem is more that its for free and they dont have the money to hire support monkeys.
 


So you want flexcoin to charge fees to label it legit?   We're still only 90% formulated on the business model,  so if that is what people want?

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July 05, 2011, 03:30:38 PM
#17
Again, Flexcoin.com is Ponzi game. You'd better not join the game unless you're sure that you're the earlist one or the owner of the flexcoin is your fucking boy and will share with his profit with you after he runs to Mexico from U.S. where he claimed be. Or he is in Mexico now, who knows?

We're in Pennsylvania... not Mexico.....  you're saying we're a scam because we're paying the account holders interest from what we sell in Ads and Mining?   Last I heard that's not how a Ponzi scheme is run....  unless you have a creative definition of it..  We'd love to hear how someone that isn't educated enough on the  topic discuss it... we need good laughs....  the chances are you don't even have an invite (very few people do) for Flexcoin... so you are not educated enough on Flexcoin to make any assumptions.

Your statement at best is sophomoric...  and at worse it's just liable.   
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July 05, 2011, 03:26:12 PM
#16
I´m using mybitcoin since some months with different accounts and never had a problem with them (beside centralization which makes Bitcoins useless and some downtimes but i dont really care about them), so i dont think its a scam, the problem is more that its for free and they dont have the money to hire support monkeys.
 
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July 05, 2011, 03:20:15 PM
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I recognize the sarcastic tone, but I couldn't understand your point.  Surely you are not saying a federal reserve note is real money, are you?  Ultimately, the only real money is something I can eat.

Well, obviously.  That's why when you work you're paid in hamburgers.  When I go to make a mortgage payment, I put forty quarts of milk in an envelope.  And I always make sure to bring a wheelbarrow full of corn into BestBuy, to make sure I can transact efficiently.

I know you have to be obtuse to buy into this whole charade, but come on.




His point is.. you can't eat paper money to survive. If paper money loses its value and you can't buy food, people will work for food.
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July 05, 2011, 03:20:12 PM
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Yea I got referred to mybitcoin by a reputable bitcoin website (dont recall which one) which suggested I could have confidence in them but in view of the recent shenanigans people have experienced with them I've cut my ties. Unfortunately they have lost my trust and I wont be using their service again.
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July 05, 2011, 03:16:49 PM
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I recognize the sarcastic tone, but I couldn't understand your point.  Surely you are not saying a federal reserve note is real money, are you?  Ultimately, the only real money is something I can eat.

Well, obviously.  That's why when you work you're paid in hamburgers.  When I go to make a mortgage payment, I put forty quarts of milk in an envelope.  And I always make sure to bring a wheelbarrow full of corn into BestBuy, to make sure I can transact efficiently.

I know you have to be obtuse to buy into this whole charade, but come on.

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July 05, 2011, 02:20:31 PM
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Lettucebee, I sympathize with your situation.  You may have found one of the threads I started when you did your forum history search for MyBitcoin-related threads.  I've had various problems with them over the last 8 months.  I don't really believe the owner/operator of the site is trying to scam people though.  He's probably just overwhelmed with the level of work required to maintain a free site.  I've suggested that there is a market opportunity for a fee-for-service version of MyBitcoin.  Maybe make it free to hold personal wallets but charge businesses for the API.  At any rate, I hope you recover your coins.
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"How do you eat an elephant? One bit at a time..."
July 05, 2011, 02:11:14 PM
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(5)   Your Bitcoin "Savings Account" - for larger amounts - like long-term savings:  Follow the video tutorial to create a totally secure encrypted off-line and backed-up wallet for an easy-to-use bitcoin address for making frequent "deposits" and infrequent "withdrawals".    (see linked video tutorial)


Bruce, where is this tutorial? Thanks!
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