Topic: ██[MZC] MazaCoin - National Currency - now @ RussiaToday, Independent, Telegraph - page 38. (Read 167585 times)

in a pump and dump it's a zero sum game. In order for you to win someone has to lose. When you look back at the graphs that shoot straight upwards and then back down, they were dumping from about halfway up the graph until the top. That's why the top of the peak happens, the dumpers are done dumping so it stops and then it's just bagholders.

I don't see anything wrong with a pump without a dump. Just inciting liquidity in the markets to encourage trading, you can still lose but at least prices go up and there's activity.

See this youtube video on how P&D works: http://www.bonavest.com/226/live-bitcoin-trading-lesson-how-do-pump-and-dumps-work

is there away to do the pump without hurting other people?
if the coin stabilizes will there be bag holders?
can the whales still dump on us?

if you do a pump with no dump who gets hurt?
any advice is welcome...

also whales manipulating a currency meant to help the poor is disgusting and subhuman
and hurting naive traders with dumps is also appalling


especially experienced traders please give experiences or advice

I stick to Cryptsy. I've never had a problem with the site or buying / selling.  Checking the prices right now.. 2800? really? FFS you're just giving away the coin.  Should be 15k at least.

BE WARNED ABOUT CRYPTO RUSH!!

There is a reason people avoid it like the plaque!! How their trade engine works compared to others.

Any other exchange.
I want to quickly buy up some coins. They are selling at .1 Sat so I put an order in for .2 sat and it buys up everything I can afford up to .2 sat after everyone in front of me buys. And it happens real time quick.

Crypto Rush.
I put in a buy order for .2 sat it BUYS anything at .2 sat and ignores lower prices.  You can verify this by looking at their graphs lines going off into space from bots trying to pump.

And the engine is slow during a market rise the buy orders start getting way more then the sale orders due to this and it just clogs it up. I would of been comfortable selling my MAZA at these prices except this trade engine prevented me from buying at .00004 and instead I had to buy at mostly .00009 and now I"m in deep since I thought like many here I'm sure. Sweet another AUR coin to the moon!   I now am fully aware that that is not true and I've lost close to 2/3 of my total portfolio of 2 BTC I take responsibility for making that stupid move. But I'm really getting sick of this notion in Crypto that people can just not say anything about what's going on and leaving everyone to go   WTF is going on. It causes speculation and panic I wish I could be involved in your pump but I just don't have any BTC to contribute to the cause as I'm "All In" Maza already..   Just be careful if your going to do it on Crypto you don't want to lose more money. And not to mention do you know how many Bag holders their are? It's going to be a challenge to get it up cause people will just dump when it gets anywhere and then more bags...  

Actually what chaps me is the ones being the most nasty about Maza are probably the whales who collude among each other on Twitter and know when exactly to sell and made off with lions share of the profit on the pump the other day. Who are the real scammers here exactly?

i honestly dont know all this is new to me

i think we need brainstorming together once a team is made

we need advice from some experienced traders

any one willing to add to the conversation?

im really just a miner. i just signed up on this forum today after following all the posts for the last 4 days and
seeing the manipulation right in front of my eyes at cryptsy and mintpal was eye opening and frankly pisses me off

I thought that too, that with the legalising marijuana are odd statements to be thrown in amongst the positive ideas they had (funded by the as-yet-untouched premine): full crypto casino, physical coins, giving free wifi and crypto mining equipment to the tribe.

hah, no I was being facetious which is why I redacted it, but then you quoted it so I guess I'm all in now lol

Haha. That's what you tell yourself to sleep better at night?   

EDIT: probably not a smart thing to say so..redacted. lol

Lol, you guys are talking about openly manipulating, pumping up the price? Really? Guess buyers beware!

what time zone?

That chat was very interesting, especially the part where Pirate claims Payu might become the next Lakota president when he's not even a tribe member. Total crazy talk.

http://webchat.quakenet.org/?nick #1ampump , but its delayed to 2am

I'm all about it, but how exactly do I participate?

can we get more people join in on this pump

by showing and proving the blatant microsells and price suppression  on cryptsy?

im sure alot of people got burned by manipulation who are willing to join
especially if its for a good cause as i believe this coin is..

Just found this, it's a long chatlog between AnonymousPirate (admin of Mazacoin forum) and neuroMode (same one from here perhaps?)

http://pastebin.com/wvvNS7ra

Tons of information regarding their long term plans for the coin, and providing it to the Native American peoples.

No short term plans though, sorry if that bums out a few peeps.

Maybe this sounds dumb, but I hope others feel this way too. I would rather lose the rest of my money and go down with the ship if this indeed is some sort of scam (I highly doubt it is) rather than selling at this point. Think about the consequences if you sold now and it skyrocketed. For me, they are much worse than losing the remaining 20% of its value.

Also, if I was given two choices on how to lose all my money and they were: (1) Lose it all because its a scam or (2) Lose it all because you simply held onto a shitty coin way too long; I would pick the scam option all day. Think about it, if I was scammed then so was everyone else...kind of as a collective group and was something more complex in nature. These type scenarios (albeit shitty) are things I can live with. If I simply made a really stupid choice by buying a coin, stock, or whatever at the absolutely wrong time and wrong price while everyone else was headed in the opposite direction, well, that's completely on me and something I could have avoided. That would sting a lot more.

I repeat, I don't believe this is a scam one bit and believe by next week the prices will be 3x-4x more than what they are now.

is a coordinated pump on cryptorush enough to affect both cryptsy and mintpal?

are the bots on mintpal and cryptsy worth countering? if we pump cryptorush?

can we go viral with a campaign to fight back against  whale manipulation?
im sure im not the only one whos sick and tired of this roller coaster bullshit..is a coordinated pump on cryptorush enough to affect both cryptsy and mintpal?

are the bots on mintpal and cryptsy worth countering? if we pump cryptorush?

can we go viral with a campaign to fight back against  whale manipulation?
im sure im not the only one whos sick and tired of this roller coaster bullshit..

finally this is for a good cause for the lakota nation...
a good cause for cryptocurrencies..
a good cause to push back against market manipulation..
and if you are holding maza you will also profit..

its a win win win win...