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September 30, 2015, 05:20:33 PM
#47
Can someone explain why this is a big deal? I thought we already knew water was on Mars?
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September 30, 2015, 04:48:42 PM
#46
I'm confused by science words. Is there actually water or just evidence? Could I put it in the cup or no?
legendary
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September 30, 2015, 04:29:05 PM
#45
After watching the NASA video at http://www.space.com/27560-orion-capsule-test-flight-video.html, I wouldn't trust anything that NASA says.

First, the video seems to act like we never made it through the Van Allen Belts. One line the narrator, Kelly Smith, says talking about the radiation of the Van Allen Belts in the video, is, "...we must solve these challenges before we send people through these areas of space... ."

Well, did they solve those challenges in the Apollo missions, or not?

In addition, why a stupid space capsule when we could have revamped a Space Shuttle to do the job much easier?

See the posting war at https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12566405 to see what I mean.

NASA is simply out to get more of your tax dollars.

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legendary
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September 30, 2015, 04:24:59 PM
#44
Awesome liquid water on mars its very likely microbes will be living
In it.and im sure large deposit of liquid water will be down beneath it several hundred meters deep. Just hoping curiosity will dug up a fossil and then thats the
Big news for me.


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September 30, 2015, 08:24:19 AM
#43
Thats huge discovery of this century. Hope it is real. Quite happy Smiley Thanks
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September 30, 2015, 08:22:02 AM
#42
So what this means ? let poor people die on hunger ? I'am not sure how you people think honestly because if the goverments don't give a shit about their citizens dying then I don't know who will .

They don't have any resources.Unlike you, who has inherited some dimes from your parents.You were brought up and fed by your MAMA PAPA.You are lucky to have these resources.
Trade your shoes with them and look at the shit they go through.
They were never the type of kid to wait by the door and pack there bags or sat on the porch and hoped and pray for a dad to show up who never did.
There state is their mother.

I never seen someone that was so poor that you describe it. A friend of mine has a cleaning company and even really poor people don't want to work on it because they are not so hungry to clean dead rats. We do not talk about orphans. Normally they have a dad and a mom (except with faggots). Those parents have a job, and if they do not have one, they have to make cleaning jobs or make signature campaigns  Cheesy ! If they can't feed them by themselves why they don't go in the forest and eat something free ?
legendary
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September 30, 2015, 08:08:04 AM
#41
I don't see why you guys are excited about it , I'am pretty sure we are not going to live there and now one will ,even if we do it will be like shitload of years from now and it won't be that cheap .

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So IMO cost for a single person to go to the Moon should be anywhere between $300 million to $600 million. Here I am considering that the costs will be halved at the least. And if several people are made to land on the Moon together, the figure might come down to as low as $100 million each.

Maybe they should start finding cures for diseases and help poor people instead of making useless trips , at least this is my opinion . space can wait

They don't want cures for people. What they want is medicine that helps people only a little. Then the people get sick again, and come back to buy more medicine. It's all about money.

Big Pharma gets money by making medicine, and NASA gets money by proposing stupidity like a Mars mission.

A bleach called MMS is curing all kinds of diseases. See http://mmsnews.org/. Look down below the video links for other website links, and read the info in this website itself.

The MMS people worked with the Red Cross in Africa to cure Malaria in 154 people in one day. Now the Red Cross won't admit that it worked. Here are two of the videos that it DID work - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrwZN1cPfX8 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jY2yab0uLc.

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September 30, 2015, 07:39:08 AM
#40
I don't see why you guys are excited about it , I'am pretty sure we are not going to live there and now one will ,even if we do it will be like shitload of years from now and it won't be that cheap .

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So IMO cost for a single person to go to the Moon should be anywhere between $300 million to $600 million. Here I am considering that the costs will be halved at the least. And if several people are made to land on the Moon together, the figure might come down to as low as $100 million each.

Maybe they should start finding cures for diseases and help poor people instead of making useless trips , at least this is my opinion . space can wait

You want to "help poor people" instead of discovering things on planets, instead of travelling in the space ?! The state isn't their mother. If they can't live by themselves that's sad, but we can't destroy one of the biggest progress of the whole humanity for poor drugged guys who won't do anything for the world.
They don't have any resources.Unlike you, who has inherited some dimes from your parents.You were brought up and fed by your MAMA PAPA.You are lucky to have these resources.
Trade your shoes with them and look at the shit they go through.
They were never the type of kid to wait by the door and pack there bags or sat on the porch and hoped and pray for a dad to show up who never did.
There state is their mother.
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September 30, 2015, 07:29:01 AM
#39
I don't see why you guys are excited about it , I'am pretty sure we are not going to live there and now one will ,even if we do it will be like shitload of years from now and it won't be that cheap .

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So IMO cost for a single person to go to the Moon should be anywhere between $300 million to $600 million. Here I am considering that the costs will be halved at the least. And if several people are made to land on the Moon together, the figure might come down to as low as $100 million each.

Maybe they should start finding cures for diseases and help poor people instead of making useless trips , at least this is my opinion . space can wait

You want to "help poor people" instead of discovering things on planets, instead of travelling in the space ?! The state isn't their mother. If they can't live by themselves that's sad, but we can't destroy one of the biggest progress of the whole humanity for poor drugged guys who won't do anything for the world.

So what this means ? let poor people die on hunger ? I'am not sure how you people think honestly because if the goverments don't give a shit about their citizens dying then I don't know who will .
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September 30, 2015, 07:19:06 AM
#38
I don't see why you guys are excited about it , I'am pretty sure we are not going to live there and now one will ,even if we do it will be like shitload of years from now and it won't be that cheap .

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So IMO cost for a single person to go to the Moon should be anywhere between $300 million to $600 million. Here I am considering that the costs will be halved at the least. And if several people are made to land on the Moon together, the figure might come down to as low as $100 million each.

Maybe they should start finding cures for diseases and help poor people instead of making useless trips , at least this is my opinion . space can wait

You want to "help poor people" instead of discovering things on planets, instead of travelling in the space ?! The state isn't their mother. If they can't live by themselves that's sad, but we can't destroy one of the biggest progress of the whole humanity for poor drugged guys who won't do anything for the world.
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September 30, 2015, 05:03:29 AM
#37
I don't see why you guys are excited about it , I'am pretty sure we are not going to live there and now one will ,even if we do it will be like shitload of years from now and it won't be that cheap .

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So IMO cost for a single person to go to the Moon should be anywhere between $300 million to $600 million. Here I am considering that the costs will be halved at the least. And if several people are made to land on the Moon together, the figure might come down to as low as $100 million each.

Maybe they should start finding cures for diseases and help poor people instead of making useless trips , at least this is my opinion . space can wait
legendary
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September 30, 2015, 02:40:37 AM
#36
This is amazing new and humanity is getting one step ahead to covering mystery of Mars. Honestly, I'm really curious about Mars, Is that true on ancient there were a life exist on Mars...

Big announcement?  I thought we know about that a long time that Mars had water?  Was I wrong?  What else could be the announcement?

I think before this announcement, they just said without any exact proof.



Anyway I think this movie will gain more income because of this NASA news  Cool

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September 30, 2015, 01:05:31 AM
#35
I won't believe until they publish a picture of a river or a lake in mars, even if very small one

So far, only conjectures
legendary
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September 29, 2015, 07:34:42 PM
#34
actually it's not water but brine, so all to mars with our fish!! Cheesy

Here is an explanation.  It looks like I was wrong, there are some areas that will support liquid water without it immediately boiling off.  The temperature must be 0C to 10C range.

http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2000/ast29jun_1m/

Oh boy! Stock it with sharks.    Cheesy
legendary
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September 29, 2015, 06:59:40 PM
#33
actually it's not water but brine, so all to mars with our fish!! Cheesy

Here is an explanation.  It looks like I was wrong, there are some areas that will support liquid water without it immediately boiling off.  The temperature must be 0C to 10C range.

http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2000/ast29jun_1m/
legendary
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September 29, 2015, 04:40:33 PM
#32
The flat-earthers would say that we haven't gone to Mars, or anywhere else "out there," and that NASA is all a lie to suck tax money out of the people.

Even if the flat-earthers are wrong, GET RID OF TAXATION, because it is making slaves out of people.

In this case, lots of people don't care one iota for stuff about MARS. They are too busy trying to find food for themselves and their family. GET RID OF TAXATION, because taxation is the reason that people are starving, while other people stupidly talk about water on Mars.

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Partly I agree with you, lots of stupid things which people don't need at all are sponsored by the Governmentget, but as everyone knows there are some useful things too, schools, hospitals, museums and scientific laboratories are among them. So maybe people should have more capability to controll where their taxes are going, but to get rid of taxation entirely is impossible in the modern world.

We can't let the poeple control where the taxes go because hippies would like shut down the army, stupid people would like to shut down museums,...

Other stupid people want to keep museums open.

Want a museum? Join with all the rest of the people who want museums, together pay for your museums, and stop making slaves of the rest of us to keep the museums open through taxation. Get you permanent pass to your museum, and don't let non-pass-holders in.

This goes for everything else, as well. From NASA to Greenpeace. From Obamacare to food lines for the poor. You wanna support it? Go ahead. But quit making me support the things I don't want through slavery taxes.

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September 29, 2015, 12:07:58 PM
#31
The flat-earthers would say that we haven't gone to Mars, or anywhere else "out there," and that NASA is all a lie to suck tax money out of the people.

Even if the flat-earthers are wrong, GET RID OF TAXATION, because it is making slaves out of people.

In this case, lots of people don't care one iota for stuff about MARS. They are too busy trying to find food for themselves and their family. GET RID OF TAXATION, because taxation is the reason that people are starving, while other people stupidly talk about water on Mars.

Smiley

Partly I agree with you, lots of stupid things which people don't need at all are sponsored by the Governmentget, but as everyone knows there are some useful things too, schools, hospitals, museums and scientific laboratories are among them. So maybe people should have more capability to controll where their taxes are going, but to get rid of taxation entirely is impossible in the modern world.

We can't let the poeple control where the taxes go because hippies would like shut down the army, stupid people would like to shut down museums,...
legendary
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September 29, 2015, 11:20:39 AM
#30
This news is not 100% believable. The atmospheric pressure in Mars is not high enough to sustain the presence of liquid water. Due to the low atmospheric pressure, the water will be vaporized, and lost to outer-space. That is the reason why only the heavy gases (such as Carbon di Oxide and Methane) are present in the martian atmosphere.

Because the news presents "a hydrate" as "water."  It's not, of course.

Ojha and his team have watched these lineae form every Martian summer, growing wider week after week until they slowly fade come winter—exactly the times and places where conditions are right for liquid water to exist on Mars. Plus, the surface is crusted with salt, which could help stabilize liquid water so it doesn’t boil or freeze.

Ojha notes that they haven’t actually observed water flowing on Mars. The team took their data from the CRISM instrument on the Mars Reconnaisance Orbiter, which, frustratingly, only observes the surface every day at 3 pm. That’s when Mars is at its hottest and driest, so any liquid water oozing on the surface would have long since evaporated by the time MRO laid eyes on it.

Still, the water left a distinctive chemical trace. “Whatever is flowing on Mars is hydrating the salt,” Ojha says, “and we’re seeing that hydration in the spectral signature.” After extracting spectral information from pixels of the CRISM instrument’s data, Ojha and his team determined that the salts—magnesium perchlorate, magnesium chlorate, and sodium perchlorate—had water molecules interspersed in their crystal structures. That’s pretty strong evidence that they were deposited by flowing water.

we know that there is ice on mars - another form of water no biggie.
but liquid water is big, because it is - atleast for us - the base of life, so there might be aliens right now living on mars :9
Oh, hydrating the salt is a big deal?

Concrete - hydrated.....

Geophysically, there is nothing that would prevent large underground liquid water deposits on Mars.
Those hydrated salt are produced by the flowing liquid water.

Can curiosity reach these channels?
There is not liquid water "flowing" on the surface of mars, because it would boil off before it could "flow."  Period.
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September 29, 2015, 10:56:39 AM
#29
actually it's not water but brine, so all to mars with our fish!! Cheesy
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September 29, 2015, 10:52:52 AM
#28
This news is not 100% believable. The atmospheric pressure in Mars is not high enough to sustain the presence of liquid water. Due to the low atmospheric pressure, the water will be vaporized, and lost to outer-space. That is the reason why only the heavy gases (such as Carbon di Oxide and Methane) are present in the martian atmosphere.

Because the news presents "a hydrate" as "water."  It's not, of course.

Ojha and his team have watched these lineae form every Martian summer, growing wider week after week until they slowly fade come winter—exactly the times and places where conditions are right for liquid water to exist on Mars. Plus, the surface is crusted with salt, which could help stabilize liquid water so it doesn’t boil or freeze.

Ojha notes that they haven’t actually observed water flowing on Mars. The team took their data from the CRISM instrument on the Mars Reconnaisance Orbiter, which, frustratingly, only observes the surface every day at 3 pm. That’s when Mars is at its hottest and driest, so any liquid water oozing on the surface would have long since evaporated by the time MRO laid eyes on it.

Still, the water left a distinctive chemical trace. “Whatever is flowing on Mars is hydrating the salt,” Ojha says, “and we’re seeing that hydration in the spectral signature.” After extracting spectral information from pixels of the CRISM instrument’s data, Ojha and his team determined that the salts—magnesium perchlorate, magnesium chlorate, and sodium perchlorate—had water molecules interspersed in their crystal structures. That’s pretty strong evidence that they were deposited by flowing water.

we know that there is ice on mars - another form of water no biggie.
but liquid water is big, because it is - atleast for us - the base of life, so there might be aliens right now living on mars :9
Oh, hydrating the salt is a big deal?

Concrete - hydrated.....

Geophysically, there is nothing that would prevent large underground liquid water deposits on Mars.
Those hydrated salt are produced by the flowing liquid water.

Can curiosity reach these channels?
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