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legendary
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May 31, 2015, 01:01:13 AM
Both addresses have not been used from 2014 Jan 5.

I really want to know where he got that address from.. But, I don't have much hope hearing back from question2. Sad



Edit: The address was edited from 1 to I? LOL. I am almost sure this is framed. Tongue
I don't think anyone actually uses that address too.. Funny how far people go nowadays..

[INVESTIGATION INTENSIFIES]

A'ight I'll watch the thread for any further developments. If you were framed, then we need to figure out who framed you...huh. That might be a bit difficult, but it's possible...
legendary
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May 31, 2015, 12:37:46 AM
Both addresses have not been used from 2014 Jan 5.

I really want to know where he got that address from.. But, I don't have much hope hearing back from question2. Sad



Edit: The address was edited from 1 to I? LOL. I am almost sure this is framed. Tongue
I don't think anyone actually uses that address too.. Funny how far people go nowadays..
legendary
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May 31, 2015, 12:28:33 AM
And this whole thing could be framed very easily..  Undecided

legendary
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May 31, 2015, 12:25:50 AM
Funny. I should be able to send and receive amounts with same address. So, it cannot be the deposit address of a gambling site Huh

http://btcoracle.com/search.php?s=1GjMtZop3K6JZW7emBWXC11ZhdQ1xEJwpm
Tho, I don't remember playing there..
The address does not belong to satoshi circle, and that link supports the claim that it does not belong to satoshi circle. According to their FAQ, you must send funds from a wallet of which you control the private keys. If this address shows up as an address that played on satoshi circle then someone thought that they controlled such private keys. While it is possible that someone incorrectly made this assumption, the fact that 4 bets were made with this address would make this scenario unlikely, plus there is exactly one other address spend-linked to that address which does not match what generally happens with a exchange/site address.

That is what I said. I initially thought the address was PD's, but it couldn't be since I found the btcoracle link.

But, it is weird. I know I am not question2. The proof should be wrong.. But, I should first get to know from where I got that address.
I PM'd question2.
It is too long back - 2013, I hope I remember soon.. My account was never bought or sold, so none of that complications.

And, I don't blackmail people.  Undecided
and for 0.1BTC? Really?
copper member
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May 31, 2015, 12:20:19 AM
Funny. I should be able to send and receive amounts with same address. So, it cannot be the deposit address of a gambling site Huh

http://btcoracle.com/search.php?s=1GjMtZop3K6JZW7emBWXC11ZhdQ1xEJwpm
Tho, I don't remember playing there..
The address does not belong to satoshi circle, and that link supports the claim that it does not belong to satoshi circle. According to their FAQ, you must send funds from a wallet of which you control the private keys. If this address shows up as an address that played on satoshi circle then someone thought that they controlled such private keys. While it is possible that someone incorrectly made this assumption, the fact that 4 bets were made with this address would make this scenario unlikely, plus there is exactly one other address spend-linked to that address which does not match what generally happens with a exchange/site address.
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Hope OP is not attacking me because, what? I supported tspacepilot Huh
I am going to keep an open mind regarding your guilt/innocence, (it takes all of ~30 seconds to remove negative trust if it is determined I am incorrect about this) however these kind of statements are not going to do anything to make you look less guilty
legendary
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May 31, 2015, 12:09:26 AM
Funny. I should be able to send and receive amounts with same address. So, it cannot be the deposit address of a gambling site Huh

http://btcoracle.com/search.php?s=1GjMtZop3K6JZW7emBWXC11ZhdQ1xEJwpm
Tho, I don't remember playing there..

Couldn't be inputs since I was selling it..

I am going to PM this question guy to know where he got the address from.  Hope he gets back online soon.


Hope OP is not attacking me because, what? I supported tspacepilot Huh
legendary
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May 31, 2015, 12:04:18 AM
LOL! Tongue

Let me read the thread..

Welcome back ndnhc , you're surely need to explain this case to recover your trust.

Sure. I got to find what is wrong with the proof OP submitted. This is not the first time someone comes up with txs falsely acusing me of being someone else. Second time..
What was the first time?

Similar case. This time it was both SatoshiCircle's deposit address.. Many of this so called txid investigators ignore that the addresses people post here need not be their own. Tongue

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9935220
legendary
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May 31, 2015, 12:00:46 AM
TXID 7ae108de4b2287bd3ba2c8a9a436c524456f9a7e4373a61eff58f18f783522db was signed by both 12Ey8KPWPcv22VVUdZWCTQFZH97Yy1XAuE and 1GjMtZop3K6JZW7emBWXC11ZhdQ1xEJwpm

The address 1GjMtZop3K6JZW7emBWXC11ZhdQ1xEJwpm was posted by ndnhc, among other places, here (archive - OP).

I checked.
Both addresses does not belong to me.  Undecided

Possibly it is the deposit address of some site, most probably a dice site. Could be PrimeDice or SatoshiDice, since I had it on 2013 December, No wonder it got linked. Tongue
staff
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May 31, 2015, 12:00:20 AM
LOL! Tongue

Let me read the thread..

Welcome back ndnhc , you're surely need to explain this case to recover your trust.

Sure. I got to find what is wrong with the proof OP submitted. This is not the first time someone comes up with txs falsely acusing me of being someone else. Second time..
What was the first time?
legendary
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May 30, 2015, 11:54:49 PM
LOL! Tongue

Let me read the thread..

Welcome back ndnhc , you're surely need to explain this case to recover your trust.

Sure. I got to find what is wrong with the proof OP submitted. This is not the first time someone comes up with txs falsely acusing me of being someone else. Second time..
legendary
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May 30, 2015, 11:52:36 PM
LOL! Tongue

Let me read the thread..

Welcome back ndnhc , you're surely need to explain this case to recover your trust.
legendary
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May 30, 2015, 11:46:43 PM
LOL! Tongue

Let me read the thread..

Edit: Seriously, it can't be.  Undecided
This post here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11467648 was made on 27yth May and edited on 28th.
I didn't have access to internet on 28th, 29th, and 30th.

On 27th however I logged in for a few minutes I got, and arranged for Carra23 and bf4btc to take over. Former by email, and latter by a single PM - the only thing I did that day.
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May 30, 2015, 10:58:34 PM
Went through the whole thread. The only fact is a newbie account, question2, extorted someone to pay into one of ndnhc's old addresses. Anyone could have done that. The only one who can find out the truth is theymos. He looks for the IP address of the newbie account and check against ndnhc's IP. Rest of us can only speculate.

The strange thing is question2 changed the address of his old post. If he wants to frame ndnhc, he shouldn't have.

you are right, but admin won't tell us their ips, they can tell us the ips of these 2 accounts are same or not, anyone can request this.

If they have the same ip, these 2 accounts should be the same guy, because scammer won't change ip if he didn't change older address to extort, simple logic.
The two accounts having the same IP range and/or same browser fingerprint would certainly prove that they are the same person however different IP ranges and different browser fingerprints would not prove they are different people.
hero member
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May 30, 2015, 10:38:08 PM
Went through the whole thread. The only fact is a newbie account, question2, extorted someone to pay into one of ndnhc's old addresses. Anyone could have done that. The only one who can find out the truth is theymos. He looks for the IP address of the newbie account and check against ndnhc's IP. Rest of us can only speculate.

The strange thing is question2 changed the address of his old post. If he wants to frame ndnhc, he shouldn't have.

you are right, but admin won't tell us their ips, they can tell us the ips of these 2 accounts are same or not, anyone can request this.

If they have the same ip, these 2 accounts should be the same guy, because scammer won't change ip if he didn't change older address to extort, simple logic.
hero member
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May 30, 2015, 06:22:16 PM
Went through the whole thread. The only fact is a newbie account, question2, extorted someone to pay into one of ndnhc's old addresses. Anyone could have done that. The only one who can find out the truth is theymos. He looks for the IP address of the newbie account and check against ndnhc's IP. Rest of us can only speculate.

The strange thing is question2 changed the address of his old post. If he wants to frame ndnhc, he shouldn't have.
legendary
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May 30, 2015, 03:41:25 PM
IMO Carra23 is correct, first, you guys know nowadays there are many people complain in dadice OP, and I guess ndnhc's hater or dadice competitor wanna frame him, one reason is trying to destroy dadice sig campaign, second reason is to jeopardize dadice's reputation, and this thread was posted nowadays, connect these things, it is more suspicious than ndnhc himself, hmm, my conspiracy theory seems logical.  Cheesy

Btw, it is easy to frame someone use a new account, and don't forget that account's prediction on 27th of May, isn't it too suspicious? It's the correct time when some guys troll in dadice OP, it is not the coincidence, I think it is a frame, an obvious set up, by his hater or dadice competitor.

Exactly my point.
hero member
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May 30, 2015, 02:25:41 PM
IMO Carra23 is correct, first, you guys know nowadays there are many people complain in dadice OP, and I guess ndnhc's hater or dadice competitor wanna frame him, one reason is trying to destroy dadice sig campaign, second reason is to jeopardize dadice's reputation, and this thread was posted nowadays, connect these things, it is more suspicious than ndnhc himself, hmm, my conspiracy theory seems logical.  Cheesy

Btw, it is easy to frame someone use a new account, and don't forget that account's prediction on 27th of May, isn't it too suspicious? It's the correct time when some guys troll in dadice OP, it is not the coincidence, I think it is a frame, an obvious set up, by his hater or dadice competitor.
legendary
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May 30, 2015, 01:49:08 PM
I think there is a good chance that ndnhc was framed. There are several candidates:

1. Quickseller: He has been after ndnhc due to dadice. Considering his ability it will be easy for him to set up.

2. Twipple: Has the motive to make Quickseller look bad.

3. Any other like Twipple with a similar grudge against Quickseller.

4. Someone who hates ndnhc and wants him gone. As a campaign manager who denies and kicks participants he may have some enemies.

What concerns me is that Quickseller is easy to fool and yet the first responses are mostly bashing ndnhc with no one analyzing the accusation. In the last page he makes another accusation which turns out to be incorrect.

Seeing the feedback on ndnhc, Vod has literally copy pasted his. I wonder if he even took the time to read through the allegation.


5. Someone who wants to take over his campaign.  Tongue /joking of course...

I hope ndnhc comes in soon since at this point it seems he is the only person who can move this thread forward.

Why the joking?

Because i answered to carra23, who manages the campaign for the moment. Suggesting that he could have an interest in taking it over completely. Since i dont think he is that kind of person, i wrote it as a joke.  Tongue

You mention marcotheminer... i know he attacked the dadice campaign often. Though it never were bloody attacks. More friendly fights between both campaign runners.

Anyway... the change 1 to I is suspicious. And i hope ndnhc comes up with an explaination soon.

'He' was also unlucky , 12Ey8KPWPcv22VVUdZWCTQFZH97YyIXAuE doesn't exist ... so when ndnhc will come he should give a full explanation of why that TX (https://blockchain.info/tx/7ae108de4b2287bd3ba2c8a9a436c524456f9a7e4373a61eff58f18f783522db) was signed by both address.

It can't exist.  You can't have "I" or "l" in a valid bitcoin address---see bitcoin_base58_check encoding on the bitcoin wiki for more info.  Those characters are disallowed specifically because they look too much like 1 in some font faces.
legendary
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May 30, 2015, 01:24:50 PM
Everything is possible here in the forum, who knows? Maybe he forgot to 'own' that address and posted it or maybe forgot to have signed the TX with those 2 addresses. A control of the IP by the staff will help, but I don't think they will moderate the 'scam accusations'.

The real question is; if you create an account solely to extort people for money, would you (of 4 posts) make 3 scam related posts, and one conveniently placed post with your addy?
Not a chance; this is framing 101


BTW staff not moderating trust and scams is what gives scammers here what they need to create this kind of confusion. It's a bloody shame.
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''one conveniently placed post with your addy'' Well it wasnt really incredibly placed so people could see it, he did that after the first 2 posts tho. Why do you think he will not post his address by error? People is not perfect. Ndnhc hasnt connected since this so that tells a lot honestly. And no shitty excuses like school exams or that shit, he obviously has time to at least connect once

Yup, a scammer with 3 scam related posts and one totally unrelated giveaway, sounds legit.. and yes, it was conveniently placed, since there are only 4 posts available.
I dont know where he is, and im also interested to see what he has to say about that.

hero member
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May 30, 2015, 12:43:56 PM
Everything is possible here in the forum, who knows? Maybe he forgot to 'own' that address and posted it or maybe forgot to have signed the TX with those 2 addresses. A control of the IP by the staff will help, but I don't think they will moderate the 'scam accusations'.

The real question is; if you create an account solely to extort people for money, would you (of 4 posts) make 3 scam related posts, and one conveniently placed post with your addy?
Not a chance; this is framing 101


BTW staff not moderating trust and scams is what gives scammers here what they need to create this kind of confusion. It's a bloody shame.
cheers

''one conveniently placed post with your addy'' Well it wasnt really incredibly placed so people could see it, he did that after the first 2 posts tho. Why do you think he will not post his address by error? People is not perfect. Ndnhc hasnt connected since this so that tells a lot honestly. And no shitty excuses like school exams or that shit, he obviously has time to at least connect once
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