Topic: Need Your Support or Opposition - page 2. (Read 1142 times)

It’s worth reconsidering your stance.

I understand your points about rollbit’s t&cs and the broader lack of accountability among online platforms like these. However, the fact that such terms exist doesn’t make them inherently justifiable. In many cases, predatory practices hidden behind legalese have been challenged and overturned, particularly when they exploit users lack of awareness or present unreasonable terms.

Take, for instance, cases involving payday loans or excessive arbitration clauses in consumer contracts. Initially deemed  legitimate due to fine print agreements, they were later struck down or heavily regulated when courts determined they were exploitative.

The same logic can apply here, just because the t&c state that rollbit isn’t liable doesn’t mean they’re immune from scrutiny.

Blaming the victim for not recognizing these practices shifts the focus away from the real issue - a lack of regulation and accountability in these platforms. It's important to remember that many users, like the OP, might not be fully aware of how skewed these systems are against them until they face a loss. Does that ignorance justify inaction or refusal to help?

I would argue it doesn’t.

Instead of opposing, you can advocate for greater scrutiny and fairness in how these platforms operate.

By not supporting the OP, you inadvertently enable these companies to continue predatory behavior unchecked.

Wouldn’t it be more constructive to side with those calling out these injustices, regardless of their awareness of the risks beforehand?

Encouraging regulation and pushing for more ethical practices benefits everyone, not just the OP.

I urge you to rethink your position. Standing against exploitation, even in small ways, can lead to broader changes. Let’s not let bad systems persist simply because they’ve been allowed to operate unchallenged for so long

My thoughts are it seems like you have a valid argument based on the information you have provided, but we're not going to be able to help you here. Your best bet was holydarkness and it seems he did everything he could. He does this kind of thing on behalf of complainants out of kindness, and isn't paid for it, BTW, and doesn't hold a special title or capacity on the forum.

Also:


I'm curious why you continued to play at Rollbit after writing this post and others that are similar, like this one:


Yet you supported it way, waay more than 90% of us ever did by being their customer. And not just a customer but a big one as well, seemingly in direct contradiction with your own advice. Did you change your mind, or what made you decide to trust Rollbit again?

No, not in most cases at; but sold out f***s can use this to change the issue.

At least in real life where you can’t talk behind your merits, but doxxed.

Not only change and manipulate but oppose as well.

Ffs.

This site only have a few people in DT that matters to me.

It’s clear that you are here to manipulate this topic.

I will be locking this topic due to unsufficient evidence behind an opposition which is an insult to my life situation and dignity. Just because he ‘can’, he opposed a legal battle I am giving. This trust system is a joke.

I hope justice will be served to all of the liars, manipulators and pieces of ****; who I have gave so much time trying to explain my situation for weeks and am getting called that am talking with alts.

@JollyGood no one understands anything here pal. LoL. Alt? Hahahahhaha.
You know what’s funny???You all are sooooookay and ready to change the topic.
You know what else is funny? This person opposes the flag without any evidence or real opinion on the case, maybe even didn’t read it, and you all are okay with it. Go to Hell.

You know what this called? Abuse of power.

About alts? I also will give this owl guy 1 btc if he can prove my friend tetaeridanus has alts that were talking to him in the chats. I am giving 1 BTC. Prove it you paid actor, then talk here.

I didn’t create accounts, stop lying; just **** stop.

If you are going to say something, prove it.

I politely replied to your questions but seem to not even care, huh? Lol, I don’t think you even read my accusation.

This is doing DT Abuse, you are opposing a flag without any reasonable explanation or evidence.

No ones going to tell you stories over bed time, I am not going to continue conversation with a ignorant **** like you, I am not in any way obliged to tell you any more details.

**** rollbits clown, what alts you talking about? I only know 14z4rus as a real life acquitance.

Prove me I have alts here, I will pay you whatever the **** you want. Cheap ****, because newbies or people who are not high levels as you supported doesn’t mean they are alts.

It’s not hard to see you are a loser irl and come here and act like you are **** something.

So you opposed? Nice, go get a life. Or even give me negative trust because you ‘can’.

DT Abuser!

I noticed that too, it does appear as though he has created accounts in order to talk himself in an attempt to make the thread relevant and keep some interest going. I suppose you can understand his need to demonstrate some solidarity even if by newbie accounts but more likely than not, in most cases they will stand out like a sore thumb and will defeat the object as the conversation moves from being about the issue to being about the other accounts.

This guy is using alt accounts and basically just talking to himself for 3 weeks - OFC I'm going to oppose his flag.

I have no real opinion on whether or not he should technically be repaid, but had it been me, I never would have gambled with 70x leverage. that's insane, and from the losses they say you incurred, this can't mean too much to you overall. Are you a degenerate gambler and this was your last bitcoins?

What's the real story. They say you won plenty too, or maybe you said that, I can't keep track. Anyhow, as the poster noted, using alts to boost your cause is not going to help here.

@tetaeridanus Don't let these people change your topic; I advise you to ignore them as soon as you see this kind of people.

Seems like the swarm is headed towards us.

Hello JollyGood,

Thanks for your detailed answer as well;

As I said, I am getting ready for legal action; already, almost finished.

This forum sadly(I should’ve known) is full of spammers and bots who try to de-rail the topic.

Sadly most of the people took middle ground, and who aren’t taking it (especially 2 DTs) opposed the flag.

I will keep my thing going here for all my supporters and opposers as well.

This is what I can publish.

I wish the very well for you.

Thanks.

Hello,

Finneys’True’Vision;

To begin with, no one is hiding anything; you probably don’t have a friend in your real life, so let me tell you he is a real life aquitance, that is closely watching the case here. Unlike you and people like you, no one is hiding anything. If they did, why put the name 14z4rus? Lol at your face.

Secondly; what merit farming you talking about? I merited everyone who had a valid argument and support on the start. Choose to believe whatever you want.

Thirdly; you can choose to believe whatever you want, however be a man/woman or whatever you identify yourself as (I don’t care) and own some dignity, stop taking the topic to somewhere else.

Fourthly; tell me what is weak about the argument and I will answer it. Seems like you have read sh**, camer here and post sh** about me, took a sh*** on my thread and leave. A account who knows me trying to defend does not discredit anything; you might as well take this knowledge and get out of my thread if you are here to change the topic.

Oppose if you like for days,weeks,months but don’t derail my topic, get it?



Else: Also, your behavior is an insult to Hal Finney, who was a advocate for ‘liberation and freedom of information’.

What a strange coincidence that your username is just a leet version of the OP’s name and that your entire post history is just you always coming to their defense and attacking anybody who doesn’t agree with their accusations.


Using alt accounts to try and manipulate opinions, to boost support on your own flags, and giving yourself merit is enough to discredit the case you have made against Rollbit. I thought the accusation was weak to begin with since they did the bare minimum to absolve themselves of responsibility by giving users enough of a heads up about the upcoming maintenance. If the downtime had resulted in your position achieving a higher profit because it was kept open longer than you otherwise would have, then you would not have expected that result to be nullified. It’s unfortunate this resulted in such a big loss, and I don’t want to kick you while you’re down, but I don’t see much validity to the arguments you have made.

I appreciate the detailed response you provided. This is the key part of your post that caught my eye because you mentioned your conversation with your attorney (which could lead to litigation). As of now there are several threads that had OPs stating they would take various casinos/gaming websites to court but to my knowledge never actually did. I would advise you to think about your next step very carefully.

As mentioned earlier, Rollbit have stated they will not review your case therefore it was important to know your intentions going forward.

What I would advise you is to consider your steps very carefully because no matter how much you believe you have a solid case, that belief will need to filtered down to an easily understood level to resonate with a judge, keeping in mind the defendant will have some of the best lawyers that money can buy. If you lose the case you could be forced to pay their legal fees as well as your own.

Hello,

Not exactly, seems you haven’t read my initial post?

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5520613

I never asked for refund of loss before, and have this type of incident happen to me before.

I had 2 open positions when this maintenance happened, 2 of them both had no stop loss.

800 usd one was higher leverage, which got resulted in liquidation during the maintenance.

When I wrote to chat, support said me to write to live support if I got liquidated or stop lossed during the maintenance. Then:

1- I have written to live support.
2- 20 minutes later they said they have refunded my bet.
3- The other bet was still live, but almost liquidated; they denied refunding.


Any more questions? Why do you talk like I am a freeroller? I have posted every evidence of my sayings; open the link and below the original thread, you can see the bets, and refunded or lost.


Edit: Also can I ask what made you believe that way? You can see from rollbit’s response from my old trades, or I can post here. I have lost this amount many times and never asked for refund? Also all threads are about this topic, please read them all and decide.

One more thing to ask you. So you had a case where you asked for a refund because you didn't set a stop loss. The excuse was that the platform was unavailable. Later you repeated the same thing again, you didn't set a stop loss again and the same thing happened.
Has your strategy always been to play without damage control and hope that the house will accept your complaint and refund your losses?

Hey nutildah,

MicahelM is a worker of rollbit.com and you can find him in even the chat as a mod or support I don't remember.

They both opposed in the same timeframe.

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On fileflix case, it is really shady why he mentions a dispute with stake.com in my thread. Maybe he also works for stake.

Don't you think, he suddenly wakes up and only interests in my threads? Doesn't this concern you nutildah?

 It is nonesense and with an only motive; DE-RAILING the topic, and also framing.

Edit: I see why this bot account has showed up; if not for rollbit but because of my previous battle with stake 2 years ago... Wow...

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What is your thoughts in my case?

Actually it appears they are not:


If anything they promote Stake, mention them in a lot of posts, but who knows what's going on really. I'm sorry I can't add anything constructive to your dilemma.

Hello 14z4rus,

Thank you for your interest in my cause.

It is obvious that this is a dodging attempt from the casino itself; given that both accounts michael and this flyfix opposed my flag at the same time correspondingly.

I have zero interest in both of them since I have put both on ignore. I don't respect their words or sayings if they continue on this road like this.

Fileflix is not a professional but an amateur framer. This words are not cared by anyone, I can assure you this.

If he is not, then it is so funny, probably he is trying to get paid from rollbit.com for defending them blindfolded.

If his accusation was true indeed (I can assure you it is not with proof), It has nothing to do with this case; compansation or not.

We live in such a world that 0 IQ people can come these forums and open accounts; and even earn 100 merit.

What a world we live in.

Razer's 5 dollars a day workers came here to oppose?    I am not SUPRISED.

You can try everything you want, he has all the support he needs in his back and he is not alone in this.

Go and get your 5 usd paycheck you loser, while you are at it; pay for a life coach.

You need to lack any self respect or dignity to be bought by a thief; and blabber bullshit in this forum.

I have also looked at your reply and topic history and cannot fathom but think that why did you suddenly wake up and answer this threads of tetaeridanus with the same answers. Which is strange. Really strange.

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To your accusation, If OP was asking for his deposits back; you could oppose him with his evidence and even I would be thinking about it.

Your accusation has nothing to do with OP's flag or his scam accusation.

Go away to a different topic if you may, there is nothing to do here for you. (If your boss allows you to do so.)