Topic: Need Your Support or Opposition - page 3. (Read 991 times)

You fool also came to my other thread and have put the same message. To all reading, This is a paid bot account controlled by rollbit.com which woke up after months to come to my threads and post to frame me for different causes.

I have bad news for you bud, this account you are talking about does not belong to me; go ahead and ask for my data from Casino Guru.

Secondly, if you are not a bot, you are an imbecile who put stake.com complaint which went on for months. Twice in two threads.

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Also another bad news from you, M1cha3lM and you opposed my flag in the same time frame; which means two of the accounts are probably owned by the same person. Which M1cha3lM is known to be a worker of rollbit.com; shows how legit your opposition is.

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After all this gets done, AND if you become a legit casino (legal); I am going to sue the fuck out of you especially for paying bot accounts to manipulate people's opinions.

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This is why I asked for support here, sadly 2 DT's who opposed don't even know who they are supporting at this point. These people are trying to de-rail the topic and change it to another thing. They know they are at fault here, they are changing the topic so you may oppose me. How about M1cha3lM come up like a man and answer this accusation. You cannot, because you are a coward puppet who is trying to dodge responsibility for your boss.

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I am opposing. OP has some sort of problem, just read his posts at casino guru. All got rejected.
Reminder:

https://casino.guru/stake-casino-the-player-s-self-exclusion-failed-2

"The player's self exclusion failed as he was able to play casino games. The case was rejected since the player filled different personal information, as the ones that were used in his initial self-excluded account. Therefore, the system could not prevent him from making deposits or the accounts."

https://casino.guru/rollbit-casino-player-requested-a-refund-of-his-deposits

The player from Turkey was able to open a new account despite an active self-exclusion. After reviewing all available evidence, we ended up rejecting the complaint.

Dear owlcatz,

As you can see from my original thread, my 800 usd trade with no stop loss was liquidated during the maintenance, and was compansated fully with even a bonus on top. This should answer your question.

Your opposition’s reasoning doesn’t fit this case.

Altough I respect your opinion, you literally said you opposed because I don’t care about $.

This is a blantant scam attempt from rollbit.com.

With respect.

This is something only the casino team can provide an answer to but from what I read in the email sent by the casino support which the OP provided the chance of him/her getting the fund is slim.

According to the screenshot email. I believe the problem was OP placing the trade 1-2min when the casino had their platform maintenance, and manually canceling the leverage trade at a loss when the casino was back online.

Hello JollyGood,

Thanks for your interest;

I have as I have described above; believe and have proof that I should be compansated according to rollbit’s policy that they have applied after this sudden maintenance event.

Just because my position wasn’t liquidated doesn’t mean I wasn’t affected from downtime. I was affected with a 40.000 usd loss while being stripped of my ability to control my position. They have answered as you can see stating my previous trading history as proof that the downtime would have no impact on my trade from an assumption point of view, giving previous 5 trades as evidence.

Even if they have gave 165 of the trades as proof (which they can’t because it will contradict their assumption) this would not change the fact that they have not looked at liquidated users’ past trades while compansating them (or the people who got stop losses)

I would also add that why did rollbit then compansate my 800 usd trade, which had no stop loss and got liquidated.

Because of the amount of money, they are dodging this case with not even their ToS, but my previous trades as evidence. Which is a blantant scam attemt.

I have came here and wrote these, so to show people how Rollbit Razer acts on his users, don’t even care about his reputation, and how easily he can close a topic.

He avoided and is avoiding responsibility on this case, so I opened a flag to him; to not only him to reconsider his actions but to show the site which he holds a signature campaign, how he treats his users.

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The latter of the incident is talked between me and my attorney. If you are interested or it is a must for me to describe what I will do about this case in the future, I would rather talk privately about this.

Thanks for your interest in the topic JollyGood.

Regards.

Personally I am not against using the Reputation board for matters that could also be listed in the Scam Accusations board and if there is merit it should be supported. Having said that, in this particular instance from what I can understand (unless I am missing the obvious), Rollbit have stated their downtime would have had no impact on the outcome. Is this what your actual complaint is based on?

Also, now that you have received a definitive response from Rollbit stating they will not review the matter again, what is your next step in your complaint? I ask because you have brought your matter to the forum for the members to look and we have therefore the pertinent question has to be about what you intend as your next step.

Hello Owlcatz, yes that is the interface of rollbit.

Yes, I have sent you the mail confirming from rollbit.com;

If I got liquidated during the event, or got stoplossed ; I would get refund in both situations.

However I was 300 usd away from liquidation when the maintenance was over, and I cashed out.

They decided I am not eligible for refund, and gave lack of precautions as a cause. Which contradicts with them refunding players who have no stop loss function and got liquidated during the maintenance; and compansated wholy. Like my original image I posted which a 800 usd trade of mine was compansated as proof.

This is blantant selective scamming, and I need your help.

You can see from their mail in my final message thread that, they blabbered nonesense as ‘proof’ and dodged the situation or trying to dodge let’s say.

Please re consider your opposition, thanks for your warm reply.

Regards.

So... Am I to infer here that had he let himself get liquidated, would he get his $ back?

Was that the problem here? That interface above someone posted looks shady. why do something like that?

OP Is that what your interface looks like?

Rollbit and RAZER,

This doesn’t add up. You’re saying safety mechanisms like stop-losses are required to get refunded, but people who were liquidated during the downtime were compensated regardless of whether they used those mechanisms or not. So why is the lack of a stop-loss being used against me in this case?

My trade was live when the platform came back online, and I had to manually close it. The downtime prevented me from managing my position properly, which directly impacted my ability to control the risk. If others were refunded despite not using stop-losses, why am I being treated differently?

The downtime created an unfair situation for me just as it did for those who were liquidated. If they were compensated, I believe I should be as well. It’s only fair to apply the same standard across the board.

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This is also a message to people who don’t think I should be compansated because of ToS and don’t support this.

You are helping Rollbit.com hide behide bogus tos that changes everyday and dodge this without any proof or credibility. You help them avoid responsibility of their own foul behavior’s consequences.

Help me raise my voice.

Hello suzanne!

I didn’t see that notification, If I did; I am not an idiot to not put stop loss or even open at market opening hour. I open this trades for swing. The casino gave 5 trades out of 165 of my trades for evidence. Which is suspicious don’t you think?

Given your final statement, why did the casino compansate people who didn’t put stop losses and got liquidated during the maintenance event? Just because I was live and 100 usd away from liquidation doesn’t mean I don’t deserve compansation. If the casino didn’t refund these people, you would be correct.

As you can see my 800 dollars trade was refunded, which had no stop loss but got liquidated during the event. I have proof of this, many of the people here don’t seem to understand the core problem here;

People were refunded, who DIDN’T use stop loss as well.

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 I have read your final post, sadly situation here is not something that is in ToS. There is no rule that stop-lossed and liquidated people get compansated in a sudden website maintenance. It is a new rule probably they will put in ToS now or in near future. This isn’t about reading ToS. I already answered DaveF about this, sadly he continued on his opposition; which I respect.
 The situation here is rollbit is dodging responsibility without any credibility or proof, and dodging this. If you really want to stop this behavior you can support or oppose.

According to the gambling site in the subject. They consider it to be leverage trading and if we look into it leverage trading is done in a gambling form due to some leverage trading features that are not included.

The issue the Op was experiencing is something I pointed out in my last post.
It is time for every gambler to start prioritizing the terms and conditions (that include the rules and regulations) of all the casinos they're using because this is the only way to avoid complications.
Having said that, I honestly don't see the casino refunding the OP based on what was stated in the email he/she screenshotted. Their point was maintenance notification was pinned, the OP doesn't apply stop lost, and he/she manually cancels the trade when the site comes back online.
Technically, they are saying no refund for OP.

Hello owlcatz,

Thanks for giving your explanation, I respect every explained support or opposition. Mind you, I trade while on screen, which does not give me stop loss action;

Secondly, I think you don’t understand the situation that, people you are referring to; I repeat again; who were liquidated got compansated. Not only the people who got stop lossed got paid whole, liquidated did as well; you can see from their words.

What does this mean, who is at right?

I don’t see why you opposed, just see that you believe I don’t care about money, because of that they are not at fault?

Thanks.

No worries - I opposed it because only a person without actual care for their $ would place such a large crazy wager with no loss protection, regardless of any situation, IMO.

Nothing against you personally, but still, people need to use basic common sense when gambling such immense amounts of $.

Cheers and good luck on the endeavour, I do hope you prevail, but I don't see how it will come (yet). :|

I have been denied of getting compansation; which means an act of scam.

indirectly, it's what you mean here


indirectly you're emphasizing on same thing...but nevertheless, it's a suggestion, we can't start reading meanings to everything.

Thanks Zwei for your opinion; I hope I will get compansated as well, because I deserve to like other people did.

I never said Rollbit.com is a scam as a whole. However this is a scam attempt, done by Rollbit.com; not paying me whole as they did to other people. The reason I opened flag is to show them I deserve compansation. Your support would be mean whole; however I see that people all (almost) think I deserve compansation, but don’t support the flag. Anways, I thank you for your opinion.

It's obvious that in this case rollbit is at fault and you people need to be compensated for causing you guys to lose your fund's...my reason to say that they're at fault is that they need to inform people about their Web maintenance so that people will be aware, because what really caused these problems is lack of notification to the site towards their maintenance...but the aspect of thinking that rollbit is a scam, I think is a false information or accusations, because since I know rollbit they have not recorded scam case, just follow them with due process, everything will work out well.

it's misleading to call this "trading". does this look like a trading interface? not to me.
just another form of gambling. lot of gamba websites gamifying trading to just betting on a coin price.




you can think of it however you like, but the fact that you agreed to those ToS, you can't complain that they are unfair later if they follow them.

now, do i think they should refund your trade? yes. considering all the details, that would be the right thing to do, imo.

That's why I came here to ask for support, to show that these casinos cannot dodge responsibility without backlash.

I respect your decision as opposition, but just that they can do whatever they want according to their ToS; and they already compansated players, doesn't all of you turns out to be supporting of my case instead of opposition?

Regards.