Thanks for the info theymos.
i guess https://cryptostocks.com is the good choise.
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if security issuers refuse to AMl they wont get access to their shareholder info.
Oh, awesome. Is that all? Do you actually have a reliable non-confidential / public-type source for that statement?
I'll gladly cough up AML-type identification to the security issuers and/or any regulating agencies for my jurisdiction (and that of GLBSE, and of the security issuer) if that's all it takes to un-freze my GLBSE portfolio
Nefario is unfortunately still the CEO (though he stated that he would still shut down GLBSE even if we voted him out), so you'll have to wait for his announcement, probably coming tomorrow.
@theymos
oh ok, th.... wait a sec, you're not theymos...
@chrisrico
what's your connection to GLBSE?
Do you know nefario or have something to do with the cgi / database operations, hosting, design, business practices or at least own shares / have a stake in GLBSE?
there's kinda a reason I was asking theymos directly. If for no other reason, becase theymos is a non-minor shareholder in GLBSE, and has probably had a few more good conversations with nefario than I have.
So forgive the stupid question, but what is the status of shares of stock purchased through GLBSE? I understand that money actually in GLBSE's possession is frozen/lost/being stolen as we speak, but is money invested in securities still with those securities?
And then, even if they have the money, do they have knowledge of who their stockholders are and a means to communicate, without GLBSE's interface?
And then, even if they have the money, do they have knowledge of who their stockholders are and a means to communicate, without GLBSE's interface?
Supposedly nefario is working on a management console for the existing securities. GLBSE itself holds little cash but if security issuers refuse to AMl they wont get access to their shareholder info.
inb4 extortion.
So forgive the stupid question, but what is the status of shares of stock purchased through GLBSE? I understand that money actually in GLBSE's possession is frozen/lost/being stolen as we speak, but is money invested in securities still with those securities?
And then, even if they have the money, do they have knowledge of who their stockholders are and a means to communicate, without GLBSE's interface?
And then, even if they have the money, do they have knowledge of who their stockholders are and a means to communicate, without GLBSE's interface?
I never thought I would say this but I'm starting to think Bitcoin is a scam 
For one, if there were any legitimate SEC concern they'd have sent word. You don't talk to the small players (ie, GLBSE with it's 10% of the market) without talking to the big players (ie, MPEx, with its 80-90%).
Ahh, self-deprecating humor. I love it! "MPEx, with its 80-90%" haha that's funny!.
Did i just read that as i setup shop in a back water country with laws that dont care about my little operation?
If you read that your reading comprehension is in the pits.
Why are share holders of this operation getting off free here? Are they not also scammers for participating as owners of this shady operation? Just because they lost a few bucks does not mean they are not also responsible for customer's losses?
Scammer tags all around in my mind.
Scammer tags all around in my mind.
If you owned a few shares of a listing whose owner just up and left, you'd accept a scammer tag for thinking you made a good/decent investment?
@theymos
Why / when, and where do I submit identity info. Mostly I'm just wanting to be able to prove the "shares" I have in my portfolio to any / everyone I've invested with so that arrangements can be made.
Sorry to single you out directly theymos, but since you have a stake in GLBSE I figured I'd ask you directly... you probably have better inter-communication with all involved parties and whatnot.
Why / when, and where do I submit identity info. Mostly I'm just wanting to be able to prove the "shares" I have in my portfolio to any / everyone I've invested with so that arrangements can be made.
Sorry to single you out directly theymos, but since you have a stake in GLBSE I figured I'd ask you directly... you probably have better inter-communication with all involved parties and whatnot.
Nefario is unfortunately still the CEO (though he stated that he would still shut down GLBSE even if we voted him out), so you'll have to wait for his announcement, probably coming tomorrow.
Nefario plans to use that half-arsed method he used to delist Goat? O M F G
Any Bitcoinglobal shareholder that thinks that is a good idea should never be part of any other business.
Any Bitcoinglobal shareholder that thinks that is a good idea should never be part of any other business.
No I specifically asked about that. he says it will be a lot easier than Goat. Which makes me think he singled out Goat for special treatment
Why are share holders of this operation getting off free here? Are they not also scammers for participating as owners of this shady operation? Just because they lost a few bucks does not mean they are not also responsible for customer's losses?
Scammer tags all around in my mind.
Scammer tags all around in my mind.
Nefario has, without a shareholder motion and in violation of the bylaws and GLBSE ToS, decided to close down GLBSE. Users will be able to collect deposits only after submitting identity info...
@theymos
Why / when, and where do I submit identity info. Mostly I'm just wanting to be able to prove the "shares" I have in my portfolio to any / everyone I've invested with so that arrangements can be made.
Sorry to single you out directly theymos, but since you have a stake in GLBSE I figured I'd ask you directly... you probably have better inter-communication with all involved parties and whatnot.
This is too bad. Looks like we really do need a decentralized alternative to GLBSE.
Scammers, poorly thought out biz ideas, and silly investors need a place to go.
For one, if there were any legitimate SEC concern they'd have sent word. You don't talk to the small players (ie, GLBSE with it's 10% of the market) without talking to the big players (ie, MPEx, with its 80-90%).
For the other, we're prepared to see the matter to court.
For the other, we're prepared to see the matter to court.
Or maybe they just don't know about you?
Nefario plans to use that half-arsed method he used to delist Goat? O M F G
Any Bitcoinglobal shareholder that thinks that is a good idea should never be part of any other business.
Any Bitcoinglobal shareholder that thinks that is a good idea should never be part of any other business.
Let's look on the bright side! Prison offers a great opportunity to catch up on reading. I've had "Discipline" sitting on a shelf for months, always in the back of my mind.
It may also provide Issuers the chance to hassle employees of the federal government. I have a HUGE cache of dumb shit I've been saving from inane mental conversations for an investigation. For example, "Sir, if you keep pointing the finger at me, I'm going to have to start calling you investi-ALLIgators - because, because.... get it?!"
It may also provide Issuers the chance to hassle employees of the federal government. I have a HUGE cache of dumb shit I've been saving from inane mental conversations for an investigation. For example, "Sir, if you keep pointing the finger at me, I'm going to have to start calling you investi-ALLIgators - because, because.... get it?!"
This is too bad. Looks like we really do need a decentralized alternative to GLBSE.
Kludge: Maybe it's time you splurged the hefty sum of 20 bitcoin to move over to the one exchange that actually works. By "actually works" I mean charges 1/4 as much per transaction as GLBSE does, is down an infinity percent less and in general has an infinity percent fewer issues, troubles, problems, defects and so forth.
Nefario: You are obviously unqualified to be anywhere near a project of the complexity of an exchange, even for play money (which I suspect BTC are, for most of you here, at least judging on behavior records). I will make you precisely one offer to buy the thing from you, so you get to actually make some money for all your effort over the past year, as misguided and mismanaged as it may have been, rather than have to walk away from a worthless wreck (like Zou Thong/Amir&co have with Bitcoinica). If you have half the maturity you should have to be involved in all this you will take this offer seriously, and consider your options carefully. Feel free to make contact via pm or in #bitcoin-otc-eu.
Nefario: You are obviously unqualified to be anywhere near a project of the complexity of an exchange, even for play money (which I suspect BTC are, for most of you here, at least judging on behavior records). I will make you precisely one offer to buy the thing from you, so you get to actually make some money for all your effort over the past year, as misguided and mismanaged as it may have been, rather than have to walk away from a worthless wreck (like Zou Thong/Amir&co have with Bitcoinica). If you have half the maturity you should have to be involved in all this you will take this offer seriously, and consider your options carefully. Feel free to make contact via pm or in #bitcoin-otc-eu.
No offesne, but what will prevent the SEC from hammering down on you?
For one, if there were any legitimate SEC concern they'd have sent word. You don't talk to the small players (ie, GLBSE with it's 10% of the market) without talking to the big players (ie, MPEx, with its 80-90%).
For the other, we're prepared to see the matter to court.
Did i just read that as i setup shop in a back water country with laws that dont care about my little operation?
Why cant it be set up using Tor?
Since no fiat currency is involved, it very well could be.
If so, hand the reigns over to the shareholders and let them take the database and he can just go away.. But leave everything else intact..
He refused this option. He stated that he was still liable for everything that had been done up until this point. By that, I infer that if he shuts down now in this particular way (regardless of the shareholder's wishes, and holding user and shareholder money under AML ransom), then he will no longer be liable for his actions up until this point.
Everything about this to me says that Nefario is selling out everyone involved in GLBSE to save his own ass.
Its not hard to get a new domain name, change the look of the website and he puts up a discloser on the glbse.com site that he no longer has anything to do with glbse... If its not on his domain name that he owns, I hardly see him with any liability...
The main thing that matters is the data in the database...
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