what are u guys talking abt Utopiafuture ?
what happened ?
this is damned long thread which is getting longer...
as a stakeholder, i think i deserve an official statement abt what's happening now...?
Topic: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread - page 11. (Read 661498 times)
June 12, 2014, 01:03:19 PM
June 12, 2014, 01:02:14 PM
seems that the distribution is even worst than NXT.
so what we have? a non tested/used coin?
so what we have? a non tested/used coin?
How exactly? can you please explain
, still thousand times better than NXT.Distribution is held by a few accounts that have hundreds of sockpuppet accounts.
It's worse than NXT, plus NEM doesnt even have a coin, or anything. It's just words.
Yeah people keep saying that yet we are yet to see any proof of those accusations.
Do you know what FUD actually stands for ?
We have at about 1000 stakeholders that are long time members in this forum. Do you mean to tell me that those are all sockpuppets. That's bullshit and you know it.
Also NXT didn't do any kind of taint analysis or any counter sock meassure. Those 71 accounts might as well have been 2 guys.
Think before you post. It's getting old.
well at least NXT was public about it, unlike NEM keeping it hidden
Public about it, or just not caught?
Fact is, the taint analysis pretty much speaks for itself. Veteran accounts make up a rather huge chunk of the initial NEM distribution. This alone far exceeds that of NXT's distribution, in which no taint analysis has been done. All of said NXT stakeholders could've been new accounts all created under a tiny number of people.
June 12, 2014, 01:01:58 PM
I'm just afraid UP has a ridiculous amount of unaccounted stakes. In which case the only morally right thing would be for him to give them away.
June 12, 2014, 01:01:25 PM
seems that the distribution is even worst than NXT.
so what we have? a non tested/used coin?
so what we have? a non tested/used coin?
How exactly? can you please explain
, still thousand times better than NXT.Distribution is held by a few accounts that have hundreds of sockpuppet accounts.
It's worse than NXT, plus NEM doesnt even have a coin, or anything. It's just words.
Yeah people keep saying that yet we are yet to see any proof of those accusations.
Do you know what FUD actually stands for ?
We have at about 1000 stakeholders that are long time members in this forum. Do you mean to tell me that those are all sockpuppets. That's bullshit and you know it.
Also NXT didn't do any kind of taint analysis or any counter sock meassure. Those 71 accounts might as well have been 2 guys.
Think before you post. It's getting old.
well at least NXT was public about it, unlike NEM keeping it hidden
public about what ?
June 12, 2014, 01:01:01 PM
Short question: Is the NEM Asset still safe? Utopianfuture has access to the asset and I fear that he goes underground. So he could just sell the remaining NEMtokens and get away with the NXT. I don't think he would do that but I'm a little intimidated right now.
you can check here:
http://www.nxtreporting.com/?as=12465186738101000735
Note also: He said he distributed 430 tokens, but according to this, he only distributed 409. Strange...
Stop creating more FUD.
We will solve this problem and move forward.
FUD?
Look here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AlidWok7hW0DdFRROFFGVUpwcFFXcHVCdGc0a3NuQVE&usp=drive_web#gid=14
430 claimed and SENT. UP wrote that. Not anyone else...
Now look here: http://www.nxtreporting.com/?as=12465186738101000735
His account holds 591 Stakes.
1000-430 = 570 Stakes.
Please enlighten me, how this is FUD and not facts?
But you do realize that those stakes are only worth anything if up would controll NEMs. He doesn't. Currentl noone does but he couldn't even if he wanted to because he's no developer. If he had 1000 stakes in his account it wouldn't matter.
June 12, 2014, 12:59:34 PM
seems that the distribution is even worst than NXT.
so what we have? a non tested/used coin?
so what we have? a non tested/used coin?
How exactly? can you please explain
, still thousand times better than NXT.Distribution is held by a few accounts that have hundreds of sockpuppet accounts.
It's worse than NXT, plus NEM doesnt even have a coin, or anything. It's just words.
Yeah people keep saying that yet we are yet to see any proof of those accusations.
Do you know what FUD actually stands for ?
We have at about 1000 stakeholders that are long time members in this forum. Do you mean to tell me that those are all sockpuppets. That's bullshit and you know it.
Also NXT didn't do any kind of taint analysis or any counter sock meassure. Those 71 accounts might as well have been 2 guys.
Think before you post. It's getting old.
well at least NXT was public about it, unlike NEM keeping it hidden
June 12, 2014, 12:59:19 PM
Short question: Is the NEM Asset still safe? Utopianfuture has access to the asset and I fear that he goes underground. So he could just sell the remaining NEMtokens and get away with the NXT. I don't think he would do that but I'm a little intimidated right now.
you can check here:
http://www.nxtreporting.com/?as=12465186738101000735
Note also: He said he distributed 430 tokens, but according to this, he only distributed 409. Strange...
Stop creating more FUD.
We will solve this problem and move forward.
FUD?
Look here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AlidWok7hW0DdFRROFFGVUpwcFFXcHVCdGc0a3NuQVE&usp=drive_web#gid=14
430 claimed and SENT. UP wrote that. Not anyone else...
Now look here: http://www.nxtreporting.com/?as=12465186738101000735
His account holds 591 Stakes.
1000-430 = 570 Stakes.
Please enlighten me, how this is FUD and not facts?
Are you implying that UP is now a thief.
I consider you to have a reputation so pls state any more odd things.
June 12, 2014, 12:58:41 PM
seems that the distribution is even worst than NXT.
so what we have? a non tested/used coin?
so what we have? a non tested/used coin?
How exactly? can you please explain
, still thousand times better than NXT.Distribution is held by a few accounts that have hundreds of sockpuppet accounts.
It's worse than NXT, plus NEM doesnt even have a coin, or anything. It's just words.
Yeah people keep saying that yet we are yet to see any proof of those accusations.
Do you know what FUD actually stands for ?
We have at about 1000 stakeholders that are long time members in this forum. Do you mean to tell me that those are all sockpuppets. That's bullshit and you know it.
Also NXT didn't do any kind of taint analysis or any counter sock meassure. Those 71 accounts might as well have been 2 guys.
Think before you post. It's getting old.
June 12, 2014, 12:56:14 PM
Get rid of UtopianFuture and put in place someone that is actually coding NEM and contributing, not this joke of a leader that is not even honest about his distribution.
NEM needs a real programmer, not someone who is just simple "talker"
At least NXT was honest about their unfair distribution, unlike NEM's secret unfair distribution.
NEM needs a real programmer, not someone who is just simple "talker"
At least NXT was honest about their unfair distribution, unlike NEM's secret unfair distribution.
June 12, 2014, 12:55:06 PM
seems that the distribution is even worst than NXT.
so what we have? a non tested/used coin?
so what we have? a non tested/used coin?
How exactly? can you please explain
, still thousand times better than NXT.Distribution is held by a few accounts that have hundreds of sockpuppet accounts.
It's worse than NXT, plus NEM doesnt even have a coin, or anything. It's just words.
June 12, 2014, 12:54:18 PM
I am open to debate about the content of the post as long as it does not get deleted. At least in this thread your post does not get deleted and his post does not too.
I will stop answering anything regarding to this issue in this thread. If Nxtchg wants to continue, make it so in his thread and promise not deleting posts anymore.
I will stop answering anything regarding to this issue in this thread. If Nxtchg wants to continue, make it so in his thread and promise not deleting posts anymore.
why do you want a debate when other shows no interest in it? Don't you have anything else to do instead of using sockpuppet insulting others?
June 12, 2014, 12:50:51 PM
seems that the distribution is even worst than NXT.
so what we have? a non tested/used coin?
so what we have? a non tested/used coin?
How exactly? can you please explain
, still thousand times better than NXT. 
June 12, 2014, 12:50:23 PM
We will solve this problem and move forward.
May I ask, solve what exactly and how?
June 12, 2014, 12:50:12 PM
Frankly, as a stakeholder myself and investor in NEM, this fiasco (even if accurate/true) is water off a ducks back - Doesn't bother me in the slightest.
If i lose my investment because of the alledged actions of one individual, i've lost the small amount of NXT i contributed. If i gain, I get to support a coin that may, very well, be very successful if it's technological merits persist into reality -- proof of importance being very noteworthy. Crypto's need something to encourage spending, not encouraging hording. NEM is the closest to get to that concept.
If i lose my investment because of the alledged actions of one individual, i've lost the small amount of NXT i contributed. If i gain, I get to support a coin that may, very well, be very successful if it's technological merits persist into reality -- proof of importance being very noteworthy. Crypto's need something to encourage spending, not encouraging hording. NEM is the closest to get to that concept.
June 12, 2014, 12:49:50 PM
Short question: Is the NEM Asset still safe? Utopianfuture has access to the asset and I fear that he goes underground. So he could just sell the remaining NEMtokens and get away with the NXT. I don't think he would do that but I'm a little intimidated right now.
you can check here:
http://www.nxtreporting.com/?as=12465186738101000735
Note also: He said he distributed 430 tokens, but according to this, he only distributed 409. Strange...
Stop creating more FUD.
We will solve this problem and move forward.
June 12, 2014, 12:49:02 PM
Short question: Is the NEM Asset still safe? Utopianfuture has access to the asset and I fear that he goes underground. So he could just sell the remaining NEMtokens and get away with the NXT. I don't think he would do that but I'm a little intimidated right now.
you can check here:
http://www.nxtreporting.com/?as=12465186738101000735
Note also: He said he distributed 430 tokens, but according to this, he only distributed 409. Strange...
Let's hold off on the conspiracy theories for now.
June 12, 2014, 12:47:20 PM
seems that the distribution is even worst than NXT.
so what we have? a non tested/used coin?
so what we have? a non tested/used coin?
How is the distribution all of a sudden worse than NXT ?
June 12, 2014, 12:46:52 PM
Short question: Is the NEM Asset still safe? Utopianfuture has access to the asset and I fear that he goes underground. So he could just sell the remaining NEMtokens and get away with the NXT. I don't think he would do that but I'm a little intimidated right now.
I wouldn't worry about that.
June 12, 2014, 12:45:22 PM
seems that the distribution is even worst than NXT.
so what we have? a non tested/used coin?
so what we have? a non tested/used coin?
June 12, 2014, 12:44:06 PM
Short question: Is the NEM Asset still safe? Utopianfuture has access to the asset and I fear that he goes underground. So he could just sell the remaining NEMtokens and get away with the NXT. I don't think he would do that but I'm a little intimidated right now.
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