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Topic: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread - page 289. (Read 661499 times)

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well don't be pissed, there is nothing to be pissed about.

We must realise, there is nothing to gain if we support a "myCoin vs theOthercoin" attitude.
We must realise, all coins are tools that transfer wealth. Our wealth.

No coin is at war with any other coin. All coins out there are tools in our toolbags, we should use them wisely.
The moment we start taking sides, is the very moment we are losing the game.

All these coins will not be successful, and the ones that will succeed will do so because they will have a strong community, that will be willing to
place trust (with its financial meaning) on that coin.

There are only a handful of people in these boards that invest in only one coin, nobody should do this.
Diversification and patience are key words, keep that in mind.

Personally, I am waiting for the day when BTC1 = $10.000  Grin
But if Nxt, Nem, or a few other choices take me there, i will not say no. I find most of the coins here to be complimentary to each other.






I agree...
The good old "where is the value" problem.
All these coins at the end will succed when we can transfer value/wealth from real things at the same way we are doing with fiat currencies. What I like from NEM is that this concept is very much in mind of the developers and (some) stakeholders.
Btw, I'm back in town  Smiley


Personally I believe any crypto (Even NEM/NXT) are destined to fail unless they get their "foot through the dark door" into the deep web, and yes, this means blackmarket trade. Bitcoin (and crypto's in general) pretty much enable it with their more anonymous nature.

This is the primary thing that keeps bitcoin afloat and gives it such a high value. That high value gets the attention of more "legit" shops who then later adopt it in the more mainstream markets. (In part thanks to mainstream media)

Fact is, unless a coin gets into the black markets, odds are they won't get anywhere - especially when there's so much competition in the crypto world and most coins are competing at a very similar level. With Bitcoin leagues ahead of everything (due to reasons i've already stated).
That's imho so wrong I can't even start to express how wrong that feels to me. I'll just point out a few things that I believe to be true.

Bitcoin is in no way anonymous. Everyone has to go through a lengthy process that includes tor, vpns and multiple mixins to have REALLY ANONYMOUS bitcoins. (This ones actually not my opinion - it's fact.)

All the blackmarket crap has surely attracted many people but has it helped BTC as much as all the other stuff like ATMs an other things that happend in the physical world ?

The "deep web" is a hyped term that's just bs.

Regarding coins being at "war". I think all the crapcoins that are mere copies of BTC, LTC, NVC and PPC are bad for cryptos. With so many cryptos out there people get confused and rather stay away from cryptos alltogether.
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As I said in the past, the fund raising period  was more like a "call for participation" or if you take an investor's POV, the fee sent in is more like a reservation fee. As it is written in the disclaimer "No contractual promise is made to anyone" and it is indeed the case until the Development Contract Announcement.

Can you clarify what you mean by this? Are you saying we may have to pay an additional amount for our stake, and we don't really own anything at this point?

No, what he meant was basically that you will get your stake, but if they find out that you have for example 20 sock puppets accounts, or any other shady things that doesn't fit the rules at the time you bought your stake, he can refund you.

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Two upcoming conferences in California that may be of interest.

CoinSummit
March 25-26, 2014
Yerba Buena Center for the Arts, San Francisco, CA
www.coinsumm.it
Over 50 speakers. Looks really good.

Internet of Things Developers Conference and Multicore Developers Conference.
May 7-8, 2014
Hyatt Regency, Santa Clara, CA
www.iot-devcon.com
Free admission for qualified attendees.

Let's plan on having a NEM speaker at the next CoinSummit.
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As I said in the past, the fund raising period  was more like a "call for participation" or if you take an investor's POV, the fee sent in is more like a reservation fee. As it is written in the disclaimer "No contractual promise is made to anyone" and it is indeed the case until the Development Contract Announcement.

Can you clarify what you mean by this? Are you saying we may have to pay an additional amount for our stake, and we don't really own anything at this point?
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Personally I believe any crypto (Even NEM/NXT) are destined to fail unless they get their "foot through the dark door" into the deep web, and yes, this may also mean blackmarket trade.

This is the primary thing that keeps bitcoin afloat and gives it such a high value. That high value gets the attention of more "legit" shops who then later adopt it.

Half of what you say, contradict the other half.
First off, any unregulated market is, in essence, a black market. So, guess what, not many exchanges are based in regulated territories.

Second, it is not the black market that gives bitcoin its value. The value comes from the userbase trusting this particular tool, for its merits over other tools.

Third, any currency that has value, gains this value because of the respective userbase. This is foundamental.
The more people stand behind a currency as a unit of wealth, the more power that particular currency gains.
Markets are relentless about this and do not forgive.
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well don't be pissed, there is nothing to be pissed about.

We must realise, there is nothing to gain if we support a "myCoin vs theOthercoin" attitude.
We must realise, all coins are tools that transfer wealth. Our wealth.

No coin is at war with any other coin. All coins out there are tools in our toolbags, we should use them wisely.
The moment we start taking sides, is the very moment we are losing the game.

All these coins will not be successful, and the ones that will succeed will do so because they will have a strong community, that will be willing to
place trust (with its financial meaning) on that coin.

There are only a handful of people in these boards that invest in only one coin, nobody should do this.
Diversification and patience are key words, keep that in mind.

Personally, I am waiting for the day when BTC1 = $10.000  Grin
But if Nxt, Nem, or a few other choices take me there, i will not say no. I find most of the coins here to be complimentary to each other.






I agree...
The good old "where is the value" problem.
All these coins at the end will succed when we can transfer value/wealth from real things at the same way we are doing with fiat currencies. What I like from NEM is that this concept is very much in mind of the developers and (some) stakeholders.
Btw, I'm back in town  Smiley


Personally I believe any crypto (Even NEM/NXT) are destined to fail unless they get their "foot through the dark door" into the deep web, and yes, this means blackmarket trade. Bitcoin (and crypto's in general) pretty much enable it with their more anonymous nature.

This is the primary thing that keeps bitcoin afloat and gives it such a high value. That high value gets the attention of more "legit" shops who then later adopt it in the more mainstream markets. (In part thanks to mainstream media)

Fact is, unless a coin gets into the black markets, odds are they won't get anywhere - especially when there's so much competition in the crypto world and most coins are competing at a very similar level. With Bitcoin leagues ahead of everything (due to reasons i've already stated).
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well don't be pissed, there is nothing to be pissed about.

We must realise, there is nothing to gain if we support a "myCoin vs theOthercoin" attitude.
We must realise, all coins are tools that transfer wealth. Our wealth.

No coin is at war with any other coin. All coins out there are tools in our toolbags, we should use them wisely.
The moment we start taking sides, is the very moment we are losing the game.

All these coins will not be successful, and the ones that will succeed will do so because they will have a strong community, that will be willing to
place trust (with its financial meaning) on that coin.

There are only a handful of people in these boards that invest in only one coin, nobody should do this.
Diversification and patience are key words, keep that in mind.

Personally, I am waiting for the day when BTC1 = $10.000  Grin
But if Nxt, Nem, or a few other choices take me there, i will not say no. I find most of the coins here to be complimentary to each other.






I agree...
The good old "where is the value" problem.
All these coins at the end will succed when we can transfer value/wealth from real things at the same way we are doing with fiat currencies. What I like from NEM is that this concept is very much in mind of the developers and (some) stakeholders.
Btw, I'm back in town  Smiley
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NEM, the first cryptocurrency sent using a smartwatch.

A future headline? I just read that Google has come out with Android Wear, a Android operating system for smartwatches. Smartphones, smartwatches and smart wearables are the future. The wallet can be unlocked with its internal password safe or with facial recognition (PCA, Eigenface, neural net) or with a NFC ring. The camera will read the NEM address from a QR code and the amount can be entered through its touchscreen keyboard (10-key, minuum.com etc... ).

Is it difficult to get a basic NEM wallet running on a smartwatch?
 


LOL who owns a smartwatch?!

Currently, not that many.
http://userupload.gurufocus.com/831372561.jpg

It will grow with time.

http://c2.bgr.com/2013/09/smartwatch-shipments.png

http://static6.businessinsider.com/image/5220ece6eab8ea081c8b4578-620-/smartwatch.png
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NEM, the first cryptocurrency sent using a smartwatch.

A future headline? I just read that Google has come out with Android Wear, a Android operating system for smartwatches. Smartphones, smartwatches and smart wearables are the future. The wallet can be unlocked with its internal password safe or with facial recognition (PCA, Eigenface, neural net) or with a NFC ring. The camera will read the NEM address from a QR code and the amount can be entered through its touchscreen keyboard (10-key, minuum.com etc... ).

Is it difficult to get a basic NEM wallet running on a smartwatch?
 


LOL who owns a smartwatch?!
newbie
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NEM, the first cryptocurrency sent using a smartwatch.

A future headline? I just read that Google has come out with Android Wear, a Android operating system for smartwatches. Smartphones, smartwatches and smart wearables are the future. The wallet can be unlocked with its internal password safe or with facial recognition (PCA, Eigenface, neural net) or with a NFC ring. The camera will read the NEM address from a QR code and the amount can be entered through its touchscreen keyboard (10-key, minuum.com etc... ).

Is it difficult to get a basic NEM wallet running on a smartwatch?
 
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well don't be pissed, there is nothing to be pissed about.

We must realise, there is nothing to gain if we support a "myCoin vs theOthercoin" attitude.
We must realise, all coins are tools that transfer wealth. Our wealth.

No coin is at war with any other coin. All coins out there are tools in our toolbags, we should use them wisely.
The moment we start taking sides, is the very moment we are losing the game.

All these coins will not be successful, and the ones that will succeed will do so because they will have a strong community, that will be willing to
place trust (with its financial meaning) on that coin.

There are only a handful of people in these boards that invest in only one coin, nobody should do this.
Diversification and patience are key words, keep that in mind.

Personally, I am waiting for the day when BTC1 = $10.000  Grin
But if Nxt, Nem, or a few other choices take me there, i will not say no. I find most of the coins here to be complimentary to each other.




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I know your are mistaken, please dont compare NEM to these clones.  I will agree all these clones in the end will end up helping NXT become more popular. Thats exactly why NEM being developed from scratch was brilliant  Cheesy

What exactly do you mean when you say i'm wrong, can you please elaborate? 
I think you are reading my comments wrong.
I am not comparing anything, i just pointed out that many of nxt clones, sprouted because of the klone project, link to which i posted above.

UF was the first dev to respond to the thread, check this yourself.
Interested and already qualified  Grin

The Nem project was already underway i think, although i am not sure. It is not hard to find out through post history

ok my bad, sorry. Just pissed with these clones thats all.
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The nxt clones are starting to sprout like mushrooms now . Promethium, NAS coin  I am glad NEM decided to build something new, sticking with the old plan of cloning nxt would have been a disaster.

Can you post links here? Anyone sensible behind those initiatives?

Or are those 1-to-1 copies of code, that JeanLuc published
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https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--521847

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=159.80

one seems to hint NEM is a scam lol

I suspect these would be the first of many, they even copied the ipo format  Cheesy .
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You guys probably did not see this coming, did you?
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THIS IS REALLY BAD NEWS, CAUSE THIS SHIT$ WILL RUBBISH MIND NEWBIES WHICH MUST SEE ONLY NEM AND NXT...
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I know your are mistaken, please dont compare NEM to these clones.  I will agree all these clones in the end will end up helping NXT become more popular. Thats exactly why NEM being developed from scratch was brilliant  Cheesy

What exactly do you mean when you say i'm wrong, can you please elaborate? 
I think you are reading my comments wrong.
I am not comparing anything, i just pointed out that many of nxt clones, sprouted because of the klone project, link to which i posted above.

UF was the first dev to respond to the thread, check this yourself.
Interested and already qualified  Grin

The Nem project was already underway i think, although i am not sure. It is not hard to find out through post history
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I guess not  Roll Eyes thats why NEM is being developed from scratch .
well it is part of the klone family, and if i am not mistaking, UF was one of the first responders to that.
i'm not saying that the klone project was not a joke, i certainly thought it was.
It looked funny with all those copycats coming out.

The fact that they still do is quite interesting though, isn't it?

I know your are mistaken, please dont compare NEM to these clones.  I will agree all these clones in the end will end up helping NXT become more popular. Thats exactly why NEM being developed from scratch was brilliant  Cheesy
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I guess not  Roll Eyes thats why NEM is being developed from scratch .
well it is part of the klone family, and if i am not mistaking, UF was one of the first responders to that.
i'm not saying that the klone project was not a joke, i certainly thought it was.
It looked funny with all those copycats coming out.

The fact that they still do is quite interesting though, isn't it?
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The nxt clones are starting to sprout like mushrooms now . Promethium, NAS coin  I am glad NEM decided to build something new, sticking with the old plan of cloning nxt would have been a disaster.

Can you post links here? Anyone sensible behind those initiatives?

Or are those 1-to-1 copies of code, that JeanLuc published

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--521847

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=159.80

one seems to hint NEM is a scam lol

I suspect these would be the first of many, they even copied the ipo format  Cheesy .

You guys probably did not see this coming, did you?

I guess not  Roll Eyes thats why NEM is being developed from scratch .
hero member
Activity: 546
Merit: 500
PGP 9CB0902E
The nxt clones are starting to sprout like mushrooms now . Promethium, NAS coin  I am glad NEM decided to build something new, sticking with the old plan of cloning nxt would have been a disaster.

Can you post links here? Anyone sensible behind those initiatives?

Or are those 1-to-1 copies of code, that JeanLuc published

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--521847

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=159.80

one seems to hint NEM is a scam lol

I suspect these would be the first of many, they even copied the ipo format  Cheesy .

You guys probably did not see this coming, did you?
member
Activity: 81
Merit: 10
The nxt clones are starting to sprout like mushrooms now . Promethium, NAS coin  I am glad NEM decided to build something new, sticking with the old plan of cloning nxt would have been a disaster.

Can you post links here? Anyone sensible behind those initiatives?

Or are those 1-to-1 copies of code, that JeanLuc published

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--521847

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=159.80

one seems to hint NEM is a scam lol

I suspect these would be the first of many, they even copied the ipo format  Cheesy .
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201 pages. Can't wait for the alpha client, to how many pages per day we will do.


some topic on marketplace/speculation got 5000+ posts

but 200+ is the best result for the coin that is not out yet

Really good sign, i believe!! Smiley
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