New economy movement. Kind of movement that you can sell shares of.
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NXT is connected to NEM somehow ? Except teammembers
Topic: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread - page 286. (Read 661499 times)
March 21, 2014, 08:24:10 AM
March 21, 2014, 08:18:31 AM
I don't know exactly what the plan for NEM distribution is, but it might be interesting to give people the option to either receive it as one transaction, or receive it over time in smaller transactions. If we encourage that later option, then I believe it would be better for the future of the coin, since it will mean there will be less to dump on the market on day 1.
For example, you could decide that you are going to give every stakeholder 5000 coins on opening day, or 450 coins a month for 1 year. Taking the second option would not only show that you support NEM for the long-term, but you'd also get an 8% bonus.
For example, you could decide that you are going to give every stakeholder 5000 coins on opening day, or 450 coins a month for 1 year. Taking the second option would not only show that you support NEM for the long-term, but you'd also get an 8% bonus.
This is a good idea but time to recieve all coins needs to be max 1 year I think. 1 year in crypto world it is like epoch that's why I think it is absolutely max.
I like your idea. But I think that time to recieve all coins needs to be max 6 month. During this period should last a fair NEM distribution. Really, 1 year in crypto world it is like epoch. This is a very long time.
even 6 months is a long time.. but you dont want people complaining that they didnt get enough time.. its amasing to see the progress made when everything is open source.
once the deadline is reached i think all unclaimed should be put into a pool for furthering the goals of nem (marketing ect) but people can still claim their share for another 6 months but if any coins have been used for marketing ect then the person claiming their share after the 6 months looses a % proportional to the amount spent. so if a share holder claims their share after the 6 months they still get the same percentage share but minus the amount spent already. that way all late claimers loose the same.. unless more coins are spent.. that way people can still claim but funds can be used also if needed!
I just expressed my opinion. I would like to see in nem the most honest and widest distribution. However, I like your thinking. You are in their own right.
March 21, 2014, 08:17:23 AM
any opinions on the value of nem after launch? would 1000 satoshis be generous or short? whats your sell order?
None for now.
no sell order or no value?
It is too early to think about sell orders. Anyway we all want to make usable cryptocurrency that you can buy/sell real things/services for, not pump and dump for quick profit.
ya i know.. but i will be selling some of my stake a couple weeks/month after launch so just wondering what the estimated value could be? would .00001 be too high?
NxT hit $80 million within weeks of launch and the infamous reputation of its' IPO held it back. NxT had potential to hit 500+ million but then the IPO fiasco became clear to new investors.
You would be losing money if you sold at 0.00001. Minimum price, imho, is going to be 0.001 minimum. NEM at $0.10 is possible within weeks of launch
March 21, 2014, 08:14:51 AM
Something for developers to think about.
http://www.reddit.com/r/NXT/comments/20u7ts/nxt_is_bitcoin_of_the_future_in_both_good_and_bad/
A guy starts really good discusion about pros/cons of NXT. Since NEM is trying to inspire by NXT/BTC/Other coins it would be good if we could see potential defects of them before we implement something.
http://www.reddit.com/r/NXT/comments/20u7ts/nxt_is_bitcoin_of_the_future_in_both_good_and_bad/
A guy starts really good discusion about pros/cons of NXT. Since NEM is trying to inspire by NXT/BTC/Other coins it would be good if we could see potential defects of them before we implement something.
It seems like the author's main complaint is with the fee structure. There is still some debate around the NEM fee structure, but it is unlikely to be static.
March 21, 2014, 07:42:49 AM
I don't know exactly what the plan for NEM distribution is, but it might be interesting to give people the option to either receive it as one transaction, or receive it over time in smaller transactions. If we encourage that later option, then I believe it would be better for the future of the coin, since it will mean there will be less to dump on the market on day 1.
For example, you could decide that you are going to give every stakeholder 5000 coins on opening day, or 450 coins a month for 1 year. Taking the second option would not only show that you support NEM for the long-term, but you'd also get an 8% bonus.
For example, you could decide that you are going to give every stakeholder 5000 coins on opening day, or 450 coins a month for 1 year. Taking the second option would not only show that you support NEM for the long-term, but you'd also get an 8% bonus.
This is a good idea but time to recieve all coins needs to be max 1 year I think. 1 year in crypto world it is like epoch that's why I think it is absolutely max.
I like your idea. But I think that time to recieve all coins needs to be max 6 month. During this period should last a fair NEM distribution. Really, 1 year in crypto world it is like epoch. This is a very long time.
March 21, 2014, 07:33:57 AM
Selling all my (a bit less than 90 dont know the exact number but I will count it if you want to buy all) bitcointalk account all invested during nem IPO:
Altough I invested during the whole IPO period, all accounts invested different ammount of btc or nxt, I'm selling every one
account for 0.25 bitcoin / acc, no matter how much did I invest with that acc address, 0.008 or 0.075, all acc have the same price.
For those who want to buy all, im selling for 0.15 bitcoin / acc.
I know some other big nem sockpuppet stakeholders some with 1-5 and some with more than 20 acc, but im think I one of the biggest, 90 is a nice stake if you see the total is about 3k only.
The accounts were all signed up with different IP address, I used my Ukrainen VPN provider with Ukrainein IPs, so there are no 2 account where I logged with the same IP, every one have a different unique, I did this because afraid the bitcointalk admins can bann my accounts if they see many new created with the same IP, so all accounts are bann free.
There is no connection between the accounts and not in their addresses, I withdraw all the invested moneys from several exchanges to unique address, so even you can't find connection with taint analysis, maybe just find a common exchange address, but nothing more direct connection.
All acc have fake email, I dont have access to them, after you buy it you can change with the password, if you want to buy only a few acc I will give the username and password details via pm, if you want to buy all I uploading a text file.
With the 0.15 BTC price for the 90 acc, dont know how much one acc will get, but maybe calculate with 1 million nem in each.
So all with this price is 13.5 bitcoin, and you will have 90 million nem.
This will price 1 nem to 0.00000015 bitcoin or 0.00009$ (if you see 600$ / btc) this is a fair price for a new starting coin.
The last stakeholders paid 0.075 bitcoin, the higher price / acc is because now the IPO is closed, so the only way to buy nem stake before it launches is by buying accounts from who joined to the IPO, and almost nobody selling it.
For the haters: Yes I made sockpuppet accounts, but all of you reading this thread had the same opportunity to make more accounts, if you didnt than it means I took more risk than you, I invested a lot of time (1 week / constant 6-10 hours a day) and money to this IPO, and the OP post at the time the IPO started said if somebody invest that much time then he deserves it because believing in this coin.
Im living in Ukraine, so for personal reasons i need some fiat money instead of nothing now but I keep 5 or 10 btctalk nem accounts, because still thinking this coin have a future.
Write a PM to me!
Altough I invested during the whole IPO period, all accounts invested different ammount of btc or nxt, I'm selling every one
account for 0.25 bitcoin / acc, no matter how much did I invest with that acc address, 0.008 or 0.075, all acc have the same price.
For those who want to buy all, im selling for 0.15 bitcoin / acc.
I know some other big nem sockpuppet stakeholders some with 1-5 and some with more than 20 acc, but im think I one of the biggest, 90 is a nice stake if you see the total is about 3k only.
The accounts were all signed up with different IP address, I used my Ukrainen VPN provider with Ukrainein IPs, so there are no 2 account where I logged with the same IP, every one have a different unique, I did this because afraid the bitcointalk admins can bann my accounts if they see many new created with the same IP, so all accounts are bann free.
There is no connection between the accounts and not in their addresses, I withdraw all the invested moneys from several exchanges to unique address, so even you can't find connection with taint analysis, maybe just find a common exchange address, but nothing more direct connection.
All acc have fake email, I dont have access to them, after you buy it you can change with the password, if you want to buy only a few acc I will give the username and password details via pm, if you want to buy all I uploading a text file.
With the 0.15 BTC price for the 90 acc, dont know how much one acc will get, but maybe calculate with 1 million nem in each.
So all with this price is 13.5 bitcoin, and you will have 90 million nem.
This will price 1 nem to 0.00000015 bitcoin or 0.00009$ (if you see 600$ / btc) this is a fair price for a new starting coin.
The last stakeholders paid 0.075 bitcoin, the higher price / acc is because now the IPO is closed, so the only way to buy nem stake before it launches is by buying accounts from who joined to the IPO, and almost nobody selling it.
For the haters: Yes I made sockpuppet accounts, but all of you reading this thread had the same opportunity to make more accounts, if you didnt than it means I took more risk than you, I invested a lot of time (1 week / constant 6-10 hours a day) and money to this IPO, and the OP post at the time the IPO started said if somebody invest that much time then he deserves it because believing in this coin.
Im living in Ukraine, so for personal reasons i need some fiat money instead of nothing now but I keep 5 or 10 btctalk nem accounts, because still thinking this coin have a future.
Write a PM to me!
I will buy all 90 accounts for 30 BTC and donate them back to the development fund if you can prove that you own all 90 accounts such as making the same post 90 times consecutively in one thread (all has to come from the same IP address). Escrow holding my money if needed. This is one of my BTC address 1KeZuWC7GHSQ949127UdFXyoTieGkzTroy so you know I am not joking.
BUT I strongly suspect you are a liar. A lot of liars have come forward and claim owning a large amount of NEM stakes so you are not alone.
Prove it.
Sorry, I lied to you in a few thing.
I havent checked my nem list a while, now I did and only have some between 50 and 90 (dont tell you the exact number for a reason), this is because one of my truecryp t file where I stored them, got corrupted when it was moving, and still want to keep some. )))
The rate / acc is still the same as was in my post before this, but the total number changed.
I would accept your offer right now, but
An escrow with high reputation can scam me too, we both know I "gamed" your system, so if the escrow scam me the community will not blame him, because he scammed someone who scammed a system.
While im posting with the accounts you can just delete them in the stakeholder list.
The only method I would sell the accounts to you, is if you would pay for the accounts one-by-on while im sending the account username / password by pm right after you sent the money.
But I lied again too, (I made some small mistake) there is a very little small connection between several account, which for now to any 3rd person its nothing, but if you get a few username you can make some connection if you clever enough, and with that then can reveal almost the half of the accounts.
Someone who did something like you must be a clever person, so after a few username you can reveal some sequence (and stop buying them), which for now wasnt revealed, and I think it will not be, it's almost impossible for a 3rd observer to reveal it.
Because of this I will not send you all the accounts at once, and will not send by part, you will not send me the total btc for the accounts, only way to make a trade between us is to make a system where we exchange the two thing at once. This system does not exists in the internet )))
You lied guy. Can you prove that you have 90 accounts? I'm sure that you have no evidence.
March 21, 2014, 07:29:08 AM
I don't know exactly what the plan for NEM distribution is, but it might be interesting to give people the option to either receive it as one transaction, or receive it over time in smaller transactions. If we encourage that later option, then I believe it would be better for the future of the coin, since it will mean there will be less to dump on the market on day 1.
For example, you could decide that you are going to give every stakeholder 5000 coins on opening day, or 450 coins a month for 1 year. Taking the second option would not only show that you support NEM for the long-term, but you'd also get an 8% bonus.
For example, you could decide that you are going to give every stakeholder 5000 coins on opening day, or 450 coins a month for 1 year. Taking the second option would not only show that you support NEM for the long-term, but you'd also get an 8% bonus.
Afaik the distribution will be done manually so I don't think partial distribution is possible eventhough I do find that idea interesting.
March 21, 2014, 07:28:44 AM
I don't know exactly what the plan for NEM distribution is, but it might be interesting to give people the option to either receive it as one transaction, or receive it over time in smaller transactions. If we encourage that later option, then I believe it would be better for the future of the coin, since it will mean there will be less to dump on the market on day 1.
For example, you could decide that you are going to give every stakeholder 5000 coins on opening day, or 450 coins a month for 1 year. Taking the second option would not only show that you support NEM for the long-term, but you'd also get an 8% bonus.
For example, you could decide that you are going to give every stakeholder 5000 coins on opening day, or 450 coins a month for 1 year. Taking the second option would not only show that you support NEM for the long-term, but you'd also get an 8% bonus.
This is a good idea but time to recieve all coins needs to be max 1 year I think. 1 year in crypto world it is like epoch that's why I think it is absolutely max.
March 21, 2014, 07:23:20 AM
I don't know exactly what the plan for NEM distribution is, but it might be interesting to give people the option to either receive it as one transaction, or receive it over time in smaller transactions. If we encourage that later option, then I believe it would be better for the future of the coin, since it will mean there will be less to dump on the market on day 1.
For example, you could decide that you are going to give every stakeholder 5000 coins on opening day, or 450 coins a month for 1 year. Taking the second option would not only show that you support NEM for the long-term, but you'd also get an 8% bonus.
For example, you could decide that you are going to give every stakeholder 5000 coins on opening day, or 450 coins a month for 1 year. Taking the second option would not only show that you support NEM for the long-term, but you'd also get an 8% bonus.
March 21, 2014, 07:12:47 AM
any opinions on the value of nem after launch? would 1000 satoshis be generous or short? whats your sell order?
None for now.
no sell order or no value?
It is too early to think about sell orders. Anyway we all want to make usable cryptocurrency that you can buy/sell real things/services for, not pump and dump for quick profit.
ya i know.. but i will be selling some of my stake a couple weeks/month after launch so just wondering what the estimated value could be? would .00001 be too high?
Noone will tell you that now. After few months we can have another bitcoin wave of newcomers (another new users flood in altcoins so) and you can not predict how much up price can go exactly.
You can see it that way for now - there will be 4 times more NEM than NXT so price can reach 1/4 price of NXT but this is far away from certainty. There are too many factors to consider. And world of altcoins has been growing and evolving very fast.
March 21, 2014, 07:01:40 AM
Something for developers to think about.
http://www.reddit.com/r/NXT/comments/20u7ts/nxt_is_bitcoin_of_the_future_in_both_good_and_bad/
A guy starts really good discusion about pros/cons of NXT. Since NEM is trying to inspire by NXT/BTC/Other coins it would be good if we could see potential defects of them before we implement something.
http://www.reddit.com/r/NXT/comments/20u7ts/nxt_is_bitcoin_of_the_future_in_both_good_and_bad/
A guy starts really good discusion about pros/cons of NXT. Since NEM is trying to inspire by NXT/BTC/Other coins it would be good if we could see potential defects of them before we implement something.
March 21, 2014, 06:53:17 AM
any opinions on the value of nem after launch? would 1000 satoshis be generous or short? whats your sell order?
None for now.
no sell order or no value?
It is too early to think about sell orders. Anyway we all want to make usable cryptocurrency that you can buy/sell real things/services for, not pump and dump for quick profit.
March 21, 2014, 06:40:16 AM
any opinions on the value of nem after launch? would 1000 satoshis be generous or short? whats your sell order?
None for now.
March 21, 2014, 06:06:33 AM
Selling all my (a bit less than 90 dont know the exact number but I will count it if you want to buy all) bitcointalk account all invested during nem IPO:
Altough I invested during the whole IPO period, all accounts invested different ammount of btc or nxt, I'm selling every one
account for 0.25 bitcoin / acc, no matter how much did I invest with that acc address, 0.008 or 0.075, all acc have the same price.
For those who want to buy all, im selling for 0.15 bitcoin / acc.
I know some other big nem sockpuppet stakeholders some with 1-5 and some with more than 20 acc, but im think I one of the biggest, 90 is a nice stake if you see the total is about 3k only.
The accounts were all signed up with different IP address, I used my Ukrainen VPN provider with Ukrainein IPs, so there are no 2 account where I logged with the same IP, every one have a different unique, I did this because afraid the bitcointalk admins can bann my accounts if they see many new created with the same IP, so all accounts are bann free.
There is no connection between the accounts and not in their addresses, I withdraw all the invested moneys from several exchanges to unique address, so even you can't find connection with taint analysis, maybe just find a common exchange address, but nothing more direct connection.
All acc have fake email, I dont have access to them, after you buy it you can change with the password, if you want to buy only a few acc I will give the username and password details via pm, if you want to buy all I uploading a text file.
With the 0.15 BTC price for the 90 acc, dont know how much one acc will get, but maybe calculate with 1 million nem in each.
So all with this price is 13.5 bitcoin, and you will have 90 million nem.
This will price 1 nem to 0.00000015 bitcoin or 0.00009$ (if you see 600$ / btc) this is a fair price for a new starting coin.
The last stakeholders paid 0.075 bitcoin, the higher price / acc is because now the IPO is closed, so the only way to buy nem stake before it launches is by buying accounts from who joined to the IPO, and almost nobody selling it.
For the haters: Yes I made sockpuppet accounts, but all of you reading this thread had the same opportunity to make more accounts, if you didnt than it means I took more risk than you, I invested a lot of time (1 week / constant 6-10 hours a day) and money to this IPO, and the OP post at the time the IPO started said if somebody invest that much time then he deserves it because believing in this coin.
Im living in Ukraine, so for personal reasons i need some fiat money instead of nothing now but I keep 5 or 10 btctalk nem accounts, because still thinking this coin have a future.
Write a PM to me!
Altough I invested during the whole IPO period, all accounts invested different ammount of btc or nxt, I'm selling every one
account for 0.25 bitcoin / acc, no matter how much did I invest with that acc address, 0.008 or 0.075, all acc have the same price.
For those who want to buy all, im selling for 0.15 bitcoin / acc.
I know some other big nem sockpuppet stakeholders some with 1-5 and some with more than 20 acc, but im think I one of the biggest, 90 is a nice stake if you see the total is about 3k only.
The accounts were all signed up with different IP address, I used my Ukrainen VPN provider with Ukrainein IPs, so there are no 2 account where I logged with the same IP, every one have a different unique, I did this because afraid the bitcointalk admins can bann my accounts if they see many new created with the same IP, so all accounts are bann free.
There is no connection between the accounts and not in their addresses, I withdraw all the invested moneys from several exchanges to unique address, so even you can't find connection with taint analysis, maybe just find a common exchange address, but nothing more direct connection.
All acc have fake email, I dont have access to them, after you buy it you can change with the password, if you want to buy only a few acc I will give the username and password details via pm, if you want to buy all I uploading a text file.
With the 0.15 BTC price for the 90 acc, dont know how much one acc will get, but maybe calculate with 1 million nem in each.
So all with this price is 13.5 bitcoin, and you will have 90 million nem.
This will price 1 nem to 0.00000015 bitcoin or 0.00009$ (if you see 600$ / btc) this is a fair price for a new starting coin.
The last stakeholders paid 0.075 bitcoin, the higher price / acc is because now the IPO is closed, so the only way to buy nem stake before it launches is by buying accounts from who joined to the IPO, and almost nobody selling it.
For the haters: Yes I made sockpuppet accounts, but all of you reading this thread had the same opportunity to make more accounts, if you didnt than it means I took more risk than you, I invested a lot of time (1 week / constant 6-10 hours a day) and money to this IPO, and the OP post at the time the IPO started said if somebody invest that much time then he deserves it because believing in this coin.
Im living in Ukraine, so for personal reasons i need some fiat money instead of nothing now but I keep 5 or 10 btctalk nem accounts, because still thinking this coin have a future.
Write a PM to me!
I will buy all 90 accounts for 30 BTC and donate them back to the development fund if you can prove that you own all 90 accounts such as making the same post 90 times consecutively in one thread (all has to come from the same IP address). Escrow holding my money if needed. This is one of my BTC address 1KeZuWC7GHSQ949127UdFXyoTieGkzTroy so you know I am not joking.
BUT I strongly suspect you are a liar. A lot of liars have come forward and claim owning a large amount of NEM stakes so you are not alone.
Prove it.
Sorry, I lied to you in a few thing.
I havent checked my nem list a while, now I did and only have some between 50 and 90 (dont tell you the exact number for a reason), this is because one of my truecryp t file where I stored them, got corrupted when it was moving, and still want to keep some. )))
The rate / acc is still the same as was in my post before this, but the total number changed.
I would accept your offer right now, but
An escrow with high reputation can scam me too, we both know I "gamed" your system, so if the escrow scam me the community will not blame him, because he scammed someone who scammed a system.
While im posting with the accounts you can just delete them in the stakeholder list.
The only method I would sell the accounts to you, is if you would pay for the accounts one-by-on while im sending the account username / password by pm right after you sent the money.
But I lied again too, (I made some small mistake) there is a very little small connection between several account, which for now to any 3rd person its nothing, but if you get a few username you can make some connection if you clever enough, and with that then can reveal almost the half of the accounts.
Someone who did something like you must be a clever person, so after a few username you can reveal some sequence (and stop buying them), which for now wasnt revealed, and I think it will not be, it's almost impossible for a 3rd observer to reveal it.
Because of this I will not send you all the accounts at once, and will not send by part, you will not send me the total btc for the accounts, only way to make a trade between us is to make a system where we exchange the two thing at once. This system does not exists in the internet )))
I hate guys like you! NEM can be a new movement and you are just trying to make it worse. You're such a troll!!
March 21, 2014, 05:55:10 AM
Selling all my (a bit less than 90 dont know the exact number but I will count it if you want to buy all) bitcointalk account all invested during nem IPO:
Altough I invested during the whole IPO period, all accounts invested different ammount of btc or nxt, I'm selling every one
account for 0.25 bitcoin / acc, no matter how much did I invest with that acc address, 0.008 or 0.075, all acc have the same price.
For those who want to buy all, im selling for 0.15 bitcoin / acc.
I know some other big nem sockpuppet stakeholders some with 1-5 and some with more than 20 acc, but im think I one of the biggest, 90 is a nice stake if you see the total is about 3k only.
The accounts were all signed up with different IP address, I used my Ukrainen VPN provider with Ukrainein IPs, so there are no 2 account where I logged with the same IP, every one have a different unique, I did this because afraid the bitcointalk admins can bann my accounts if they see many new created with the same IP, so all accounts are bann free.
There is no connection between the accounts and not in their addresses, I withdraw all the invested moneys from several exchanges to unique address, so even you can't find connection with taint analysis, maybe just find a common exchange address, but nothing more direct connection.
All acc have fake email, I dont have access to them, after you buy it you can change with the password, if you want to buy only a few acc I will give the username and password details via pm, if you want to buy all I uploading a text file.
With the 0.15 BTC price for the 90 acc, dont know how much one acc will get, but maybe calculate with 1 million nem in each.
So all with this price is 13.5 bitcoin, and you will have 90 million nem.
This will price 1 nem to 0.00000015 bitcoin or 0.00009$ (if you see 600$ / btc) this is a fair price for a new starting coin.
The last stakeholders paid 0.075 bitcoin, the higher price / acc is because now the IPO is closed, so the only way to buy nem stake before it launches is by buying accounts from who joined to the IPO, and almost nobody selling it.
For the haters: Yes I made sockpuppet accounts, but all of you reading this thread had the same opportunity to make more accounts, if you didnt than it means I took more risk than you, I invested a lot of time (1 week / constant 6-10 hours a day) and money to this IPO, and the OP post at the time the IPO started said if somebody invest that much time then he deserves it because believing in this coin.
Im living in Ukraine, so for personal reasons i need some fiat money instead of nothing now but I keep 5 or 10 btctalk nem accounts, because still thinking this coin have a future.
Write a PM to me!
Altough I invested during the whole IPO period, all accounts invested different ammount of btc or nxt, I'm selling every one
account for 0.25 bitcoin / acc, no matter how much did I invest with that acc address, 0.008 or 0.075, all acc have the same price.
For those who want to buy all, im selling for 0.15 bitcoin / acc.
I know some other big nem sockpuppet stakeholders some with 1-5 and some with more than 20 acc, but im think I one of the biggest, 90 is a nice stake if you see the total is about 3k only.
The accounts were all signed up with different IP address, I used my Ukrainen VPN provider with Ukrainein IPs, so there are no 2 account where I logged with the same IP, every one have a different unique, I did this because afraid the bitcointalk admins can bann my accounts if they see many new created with the same IP, so all accounts are bann free.
There is no connection between the accounts and not in their addresses, I withdraw all the invested moneys from several exchanges to unique address, so even you can't find connection with taint analysis, maybe just find a common exchange address, but nothing more direct connection.
All acc have fake email, I dont have access to them, after you buy it you can change with the password, if you want to buy only a few acc I will give the username and password details via pm, if you want to buy all I uploading a text file.
With the 0.15 BTC price for the 90 acc, dont know how much one acc will get, but maybe calculate with 1 million nem in each.
So all with this price is 13.5 bitcoin, and you will have 90 million nem.
This will price 1 nem to 0.00000015 bitcoin or 0.00009$ (if you see 600$ / btc) this is a fair price for a new starting coin.
The last stakeholders paid 0.075 bitcoin, the higher price / acc is because now the IPO is closed, so the only way to buy nem stake before it launches is by buying accounts from who joined to the IPO, and almost nobody selling it.
For the haters: Yes I made sockpuppet accounts, but all of you reading this thread had the same opportunity to make more accounts, if you didnt than it means I took more risk than you, I invested a lot of time (1 week / constant 6-10 hours a day) and money to this IPO, and the OP post at the time the IPO started said if somebody invest that much time then he deserves it because believing in this coin.
Im living in Ukraine, so for personal reasons i need some fiat money instead of nothing now but I keep 5 or 10 btctalk nem accounts, because still thinking this coin have a future.
Write a PM to me!
you're just a liar!
March 21, 2014, 05:46:12 AM
Selling all my (a bit less than 90 dont know the exact number but I will count it if you want to buy all) bitcointalk account all invested during nem IPO:
Altough I invested during the whole IPO period, all accounts invested different ammount of btc or nxt, I'm selling every one
account for 0.25 bitcoin / acc, no matter how much did I invest with that acc address, 0.008 or 0.075, all acc have the same price.
For those who want to buy all, im selling for 0.15 bitcoin / acc.
I know some other big nem sockpuppet stakeholders some with 1-5 and some with more than 20 acc, but im think I one of the biggest, 90 is a nice stake if you see the total is about 3k only.
The accounts were all signed up with different IP address, I used my Ukrainen VPN provider with Ukrainein IPs, so there are no 2 account where I logged with the same IP, every one have a different unique, I did this because afraid the bitcointalk admins can bann my accounts if they see many new created with the same IP, so all accounts are bann free.
There is no connection between the accounts and not in their addresses, I withdraw all the invested moneys from several exchanges to unique address, so even you can't find connection with taint analysis, maybe just find a common exchange address, but nothing more direct connection.
All acc have fake email, I dont have access to them, after you buy it you can change with the password, if you want to buy only a few acc I will give the username and password details via pm, if you want to buy all I uploading a text file.
With the 0.15 BTC price for the 90 acc, dont know how much one acc will get, but maybe calculate with 1 million nem in each.
So all with this price is 13.5 bitcoin, and you will have 90 million nem.
This will price 1 nem to 0.00000015 bitcoin or 0.00009$ (if you see 600$ / btc) this is a fair price for a new starting coin.
The last stakeholders paid 0.075 bitcoin, the higher price / acc is because now the IPO is closed, so the only way to buy nem stake before it launches is by buying accounts from who joined to the IPO, and almost nobody selling it.
For the haters: Yes I made sockpuppet accounts, but all of you reading this thread had the same opportunity to make more accounts, if you didnt than it means I took more risk than you, I invested a lot of time (1 week / constant 6-10 hours a day) and money to this IPO, and the OP post at the time the IPO started said if somebody invest that much time then he deserves it because believing in this coin.
Im living in Ukraine, so for personal reasons i need some fiat money instead of nothing now but I keep 5 or 10 btctalk nem accounts, because still thinking this coin have a future.
Write a PM to me!
Altough I invested during the whole IPO period, all accounts invested different ammount of btc or nxt, I'm selling every one
account for 0.25 bitcoin / acc, no matter how much did I invest with that acc address, 0.008 or 0.075, all acc have the same price.
For those who want to buy all, im selling for 0.15 bitcoin / acc.
I know some other big nem sockpuppet stakeholders some with 1-5 and some with more than 20 acc, but im think I one of the biggest, 90 is a nice stake if you see the total is about 3k only.
The accounts were all signed up with different IP address, I used my Ukrainen VPN provider with Ukrainein IPs, so there are no 2 account where I logged with the same IP, every one have a different unique, I did this because afraid the bitcointalk admins can bann my accounts if they see many new created with the same IP, so all accounts are bann free.
There is no connection between the accounts and not in their addresses, I withdraw all the invested moneys from several exchanges to unique address, so even you can't find connection with taint analysis, maybe just find a common exchange address, but nothing more direct connection.
All acc have fake email, I dont have access to them, after you buy it you can change with the password, if you want to buy only a few acc I will give the username and password details via pm, if you want to buy all I uploading a text file.
With the 0.15 BTC price for the 90 acc, dont know how much one acc will get, but maybe calculate with 1 million nem in each.
So all with this price is 13.5 bitcoin, and you will have 90 million nem.
This will price 1 nem to 0.00000015 bitcoin or 0.00009$ (if you see 600$ / btc) this is a fair price for a new starting coin.
The last stakeholders paid 0.075 bitcoin, the higher price / acc is because now the IPO is closed, so the only way to buy nem stake before it launches is by buying accounts from who joined to the IPO, and almost nobody selling it.
For the haters: Yes I made sockpuppet accounts, but all of you reading this thread had the same opportunity to make more accounts, if you didnt than it means I took more risk than you, I invested a lot of time (1 week / constant 6-10 hours a day) and money to this IPO, and the OP post at the time the IPO started said if somebody invest that much time then he deserves it because believing in this coin.
Im living in Ukraine, so for personal reasons i need some fiat money instead of nothing now but I keep 5 or 10 btctalk nem accounts, because still thinking this coin have a future.
Write a PM to me!
you don't have nothing
you're just one NEM hater
trol
March 21, 2014, 05:22:45 AM
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There is no connection between the accounts and not in their addresses, I withdraw all the invested moneys from several exchanges to unique address, so even you can't find connection with taint analysis, maybe just find a common exchange address, but nothing more direct connection.
That may very well still be enough to get you on the refund list. Good luck making your case with 90 different accounts that are probably all inactive otherwise.
I seriously think he is lair, why would a person blatantly claim to have so many sockpokets
to draw attention to himself for no purpose, he could have sold one at a time without the attention. March 21, 2014, 04:58:57 AM
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There is no connection between the accounts and not in their addresses, I withdraw all the invested moneys from several exchanges to unique address, so even you can't find connection with taint analysis, maybe just find a common exchange address, but nothing more direct connection.
That may very well still be enough to get you on the refund list. Good luck making your case with 90 different accounts that are probably all inactive otherwise.
March 21, 2014, 04:54:27 AM
Selling all my (a bit less than 90 dont know the exact number but I will count it if you want to buy all) bitcointalk account all invested during nem IPO:
Altough I invested during the whole IPO period, all accounts invested different ammount of btc or nxt, I'm selling every one
account for 0.25 bitcoin / acc, no matter how much did I invest with that acc address, 0.008 or 0.075, all acc have the same price.
For those who want to buy all, im selling for 0.15 bitcoin / acc.
I know some other big nem sockpuppet stakeholders some with 1-5 and some with more than 20 acc, but im think I one of the biggest, 90 is a nice stake if you see the total is about 3k only.
The accounts were all signed up with different IP address, I used my Ukrainen VPN provider with Ukrainein IPs, so there are no 2 account where I logged with the same IP, every one have a different unique, I did this because afraid the bitcointalk admins can bann my accounts if they see many new created with the same IP, so all accounts are bann free.
There is no connection between the accounts and not in their addresses, I withdraw all the invested moneys from several exchanges to unique address, so even you can't find connection with taint analysis, maybe just find a common exchange address, but nothing more direct connection.
All acc have fake email, I dont have access to them, after you buy it you can change with the password, if you want to buy only a few acc I will give the username and password details via pm, if you want to buy all I uploading a text file.
With the 0.15 BTC price for the 90 acc, dont know how much one acc will get, but maybe calculate with 1 million nem in each.
So all with this price is 13.5 bitcoin, and you will have 90 million nem.
This will price 1 nem to 0.00000015 bitcoin or 0.00009$ (if you see 600$ / btc) this is a fair price for a new starting coin.
The last stakeholders paid 0.075 bitcoin, the higher price / acc is because now the IPO is closed, so the only way to buy nem stake before it launches is by buying accounts from who joined to the IPO, and almost nobody selling it.
For the haters: Yes I made sockpuppet accounts, but all of you reading this thread had the same opportunity to make more accounts, if you didnt than it means I took more risk than you, I invested a lot of time (1 week / constant 6-10 hours a day) and money to this IPO, and the OP post at the time the IPO started said if somebody invest that much time then he deserves it because believing in this coin.
Im living in Ukraine, so for personal reasons i need some fiat money instead of nothing now but I keep 5 or 10 btctalk nem accounts, because still thinking this coin have a future.
Write a PM to me!
Altough I invested during the whole IPO period, all accounts invested different ammount of btc or nxt, I'm selling every one
account for 0.25 bitcoin / acc, no matter how much did I invest with that acc address, 0.008 or 0.075, all acc have the same price.
For those who want to buy all, im selling for 0.15 bitcoin / acc.
I know some other big nem sockpuppet stakeholders some with 1-5 and some with more than 20 acc, but im think I one of the biggest, 90 is a nice stake if you see the total is about 3k only.
The accounts were all signed up with different IP address, I used my Ukrainen VPN provider with Ukrainein IPs, so there are no 2 account where I logged with the same IP, every one have a different unique, I did this because afraid the bitcointalk admins can bann my accounts if they see many new created with the same IP, so all accounts are bann free.
There is no connection between the accounts and not in their addresses, I withdraw all the invested moneys from several exchanges to unique address, so even you can't find connection with taint analysis, maybe just find a common exchange address, but nothing more direct connection.
All acc have fake email, I dont have access to them, after you buy it you can change with the password, if you want to buy only a few acc I will give the username and password details via pm, if you want to buy all I uploading a text file.
With the 0.15 BTC price for the 90 acc, dont know how much one acc will get, but maybe calculate with 1 million nem in each.
So all with this price is 13.5 bitcoin, and you will have 90 million nem.
This will price 1 nem to 0.00000015 bitcoin or 0.00009$ (if you see 600$ / btc) this is a fair price for a new starting coin.
The last stakeholders paid 0.075 bitcoin, the higher price / acc is because now the IPO is closed, so the only way to buy nem stake before it launches is by buying accounts from who joined to the IPO, and almost nobody selling it.
For the haters: Yes I made sockpuppet accounts, but all of you reading this thread had the same opportunity to make more accounts, if you didnt than it means I took more risk than you, I invested a lot of time (1 week / constant 6-10 hours a day) and money to this IPO, and the OP post at the time the IPO started said if somebody invest that much time then he deserves it because believing in this coin.
Im living in Ukraine, so for personal reasons i need some fiat money instead of nothing now but I keep 5 or 10 btctalk nem accounts, because still thinking this coin have a future.
Write a PM to me!
I will buy all 90 accounts for 30 BTC and donate them back to the development fund if you can prove that you own all 90 accounts such as making the same post 90 times consecutively in one thread (all has to come from the same IP address). Escrow holding my money if needed. This is one of my BTC address 1KeZuWC7GHSQ949127UdFXyoTieGkzTroy so you know I am not joking.
BUT I strongly suspect you are a liar. A lot of liars have come forward and claim owning a large amount of NEM stakes so you are not alone.
Prove it.
Sorry, I lied to you in a few thing.
I havent checked my nem list a while, now I did and only have some between 50 and 90 (dont tell you the exact number for a reason), this is because one of my truecryp t file where I stored them, got corrupted when it was moving, and still want to keep some. )))
The rate / acc is still the same as was in my post before this, but the total number changed.
I would accept your offer right now, but
An escrow with high reputation can scam me too, we both know I "gamed" your system, so if the escrow scam me the community will not blame him, because he scammed someone who scammed a system.
While im posting with the accounts you can just delete them in the stakeholder list.
The only method I would sell the accounts to you, is if you would pay for the accounts one-by-on while im sending the account username / password by pm right after you sent the money.
But I lied again too, (I made some small mistake) there is a very little small connection between several account, which for now to any 3rd person its nothing, but if you get a few username you can make some connection if you clever enough, and with that then can reveal almost the half of the accounts.
Someone who did something like you must be a clever person, so after a few username you can reveal some sequence (and stop buying them), which for now wasnt revealed, and I think it will not be, it's almost impossible for a 3rd observer to reveal it.
Because of this I will not send you all the accounts at once, and will not send by part, you will not send me the total btc for the accounts, only way to make a trade between us is to make a system where we exchange the two thing at once. This system does not exists in the internet )))
Its not as complicated as you make it out to be genius
Take a small risk send one username and account and wait for payment. If it comes proceed to second. Worst case you lose 1 account of your claimed 60-90 accounts, no big loss, if it works you get your money.I doubt you have that many accounts though, it the excuses you are making.
March 21, 2014, 04:36:03 AM
Selling all my (a bit less than 90 dont know the exact number but I will count it if you want to buy all) bitcointalk account all invested during nem IPO:
Altough I invested during the whole IPO period, all accounts invested different ammount of btc or nxt, I'm selling every one
account for 0.25 bitcoin / acc, no matter how much did I invest with that acc address, 0.008 or 0.075, all acc have the same price.
For those who want to buy all, im selling for 0.15 bitcoin / acc.
I know some other big nem sockpuppet stakeholders some with 1-5 and some with more than 20 acc, but im think I one of the biggest, 90 is a nice stake if you see the total is about 3k only.
The accounts were all signed up with different IP address, I used my Ukrainen VPN provider with Ukrainein IPs, so there are no 2 account where I logged with the same IP, every one have a different unique, I did this because afraid the bitcointalk admins can bann my accounts if they see many new created with the same IP, so all accounts are bann free.
There is no connection between the accounts and not in their addresses, I withdraw all the invested moneys from several exchanges to unique address, so even you can't find connection with taint analysis, maybe just find a common exchange address, but nothing more direct connection.
All acc have fake email, I dont have access to them, after you buy it you can change with the password, if you want to buy only a few acc I will give the username and password details via pm, if you want to buy all I uploading a text file.
With the 0.15 BTC price for the 90 acc, dont know how much one acc will get, but maybe calculate with 1 million nem in each.
So all with this price is 13.5 bitcoin, and you will have 90 million nem.
This will price 1 nem to 0.00000015 bitcoin or 0.00009$ (if you see 600$ / btc) this is a fair price for a new starting coin.
The last stakeholders paid 0.075 bitcoin, the higher price / acc is because now the IPO is closed, so the only way to buy nem stake before it launches is by buying accounts from who joined to the IPO, and almost nobody selling it.
For the haters: Yes I made sockpuppet accounts, but all of you reading this thread had the same opportunity to make more accounts, if you didnt than it means I took more risk than you, I invested a lot of time (1 week / constant 6-10 hours a day) and money to this IPO, and the OP post at the time the IPO started said if somebody invest that much time then he deserves it because believing in this coin.
Im living in Ukraine, so for personal reasons i need some fiat money instead of nothing now but I keep 5 or 10 btctalk nem accounts, because still thinking this coin have a future.
Write a PM to me!
Altough I invested during the whole IPO period, all accounts invested different ammount of btc or nxt, I'm selling every one
account for 0.25 bitcoin / acc, no matter how much did I invest with that acc address, 0.008 or 0.075, all acc have the same price.
For those who want to buy all, im selling for 0.15 bitcoin / acc.
I know some other big nem sockpuppet stakeholders some with 1-5 and some with more than 20 acc, but im think I one of the biggest, 90 is a nice stake if you see the total is about 3k only.
The accounts were all signed up with different IP address, I used my Ukrainen VPN provider with Ukrainein IPs, so there are no 2 account where I logged with the same IP, every one have a different unique, I did this because afraid the bitcointalk admins can bann my accounts if they see many new created with the same IP, so all accounts are bann free.
There is no connection between the accounts and not in their addresses, I withdraw all the invested moneys from several exchanges to unique address, so even you can't find connection with taint analysis, maybe just find a common exchange address, but nothing more direct connection.
All acc have fake email, I dont have access to them, after you buy it you can change with the password, if you want to buy only a few acc I will give the username and password details via pm, if you want to buy all I uploading a text file.
With the 0.15 BTC price for the 90 acc, dont know how much one acc will get, but maybe calculate with 1 million nem in each.
So all with this price is 13.5 bitcoin, and you will have 90 million nem.
This will price 1 nem to 0.00000015 bitcoin or 0.00009$ (if you see 600$ / btc) this is a fair price for a new starting coin.
The last stakeholders paid 0.075 bitcoin, the higher price / acc is because now the IPO is closed, so the only way to buy nem stake before it launches is by buying accounts from who joined to the IPO, and almost nobody selling it.
For the haters: Yes I made sockpuppet accounts, but all of you reading this thread had the same opportunity to make more accounts, if you didnt than it means I took more risk than you, I invested a lot of time (1 week / constant 6-10 hours a day) and money to this IPO, and the OP post at the time the IPO started said if somebody invest that much time then he deserves it because believing in this coin.
Im living in Ukraine, so for personal reasons i need some fiat money instead of nothing now but I keep 5 or 10 btctalk nem accounts, because still thinking this coin have a future.
Write a PM to me!
I will buy all 90 accounts for 30 BTC and donate them back to the development fund if you can prove that you own all 90 accounts such as making the same post 90 times consecutively in one thread (all has to come from the same IP address). Escrow holding my money if needed. This is one of my BTC address 1KeZuWC7GHSQ949127UdFXyoTieGkzTroy so you know I am not joking.
BUT I strongly suspect you are a liar. A lot of liars have come forward and claim owning a large amount of NEM stakes so you are not alone.
Prove it.
Sorry, I lied to you in a few thing.
I havent checked my nem list a while, now I did and only have some between 50 and 90 (dont tell you the exact number for a reason), this is because one of my truecryp t file where I stored them, got corrupted when it was moving, and still want to keep some. )))
The rate / acc is still the same as was in my post before this, but the total number changed.
I would accept your offer right now, but
An escrow with high reputation can scam me too, we both know I "gamed" your system, so if the escrow scam me the community will not blame him, because he scammed someone who scammed a system.
While im posting with the accounts you can just delete them in the stakeholder list.
The only method I would sell the accounts to you, is if you would pay for the accounts one-by-on while im sending the account username / password by pm right after you sent the money.
But I lied again too, (I made some small mistake) there is a very little small connection between several account, which for now to any 3rd person its nothing, but if you get a few username you can make some connection if you clever enough, and with that then can reveal almost the half of the accounts.
Someone who did something like you must be a clever person, so after a few username you can reveal some sequence (and stop buying them), which for now wasnt revealed, and I think it will not be, it's almost impossible for a 3rd observer to reveal it.
Because of this I will not send you all the accounts at once, and will not send by part, you will not send me the total btc for the accounts, only way to make a trade between us is to make a system where we exchange the two thing at once. This system does not exists in the internet )))
If I would buy an account of yours, I would tell UtopianFuture which account I just bought.
And more people would do that so it will be game over quickly after selling some acounts.
The only option you have is going escrow and selling all of it to UtopianFuture.
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