[NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread - page 337.

wangjj1

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Quote from: play4ce on February 26, 2014, 05:35:03 PM

Hey Guys,

this is version 2 of my logo

as usual feel free to use & modify!

http://imageshack.com/a/img22/5011/d3v8.jpg

---

http://imageshack.com/a/img607/1900/dgq1.png

-> blue
-> white

http://imageshack.com/a/img547/7945/7414.png

-> blue
-> white

feedback appreciated!
btw, Im still undecided on the color scheme.
maybe the "learn more"-button color is a good choice.

It is very cool,and reminds of our country ancient currency ,see the link:
http://image.baidu.com/i?ct=503316480&z=&tn=baiduimagedetail&ipn=d&word=%E5%8F%A4%E4%BB%A3%E9%92%B1%E5%B8%81%E5%9B%BE%E7%89%87&step_word=&ie=utf-8&in=24014&cl=2&lm=-1&st=-1&pn=108&rn=1&di=20880656170&ln=1997&fr=ala1&&fmq=1350297510862_R&ic=0&s=&se=1&sme=0&tab=&width=&height=&face=0&is=&istype=2&ist=&jit=&objurl=http%3A%2F%2F3gmuseum.cn%2Fuploadfile%2F2010010832723099.JPG#pn118&-1&di115537905230&objURLhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.huitao.net%2Fimages%2Fsp%2Fbao%2Fuploaded%2Fi3%2FT1V78CXgpcXXXMoN39_073638.jpg&fromURLippr_z2C%24qAzdH3FAzdH3Fooo_z%26e3Bi7tpw5_z%26e3BgjpAzdH3FipfrAzdH3Fc0md908m8c_z%26e3Bip4s&W1623&H1862&T10954&S300&TPjpg

makoto1337

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I am not Dorian Nakamoto.

Quote from: play4ce on February 26, 2014, 05:35:03 PM

Hey Guys,

this is version 2 of my logo

as usual feel free to use & modify!

---

-> blue
-> white

feedback appreciated!
btw, Im still undecided on the color scheme.
maybe the "learn more"-button color is a good choice.

I really like the red one. Cool design. Reminds me of 陰陽.

makoto1337

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I am not Dorian Nakamoto.

Quote from: Thingamajig on February 26, 2014, 02:04:20 PM

Quote from: patmast3r on February 26, 2014, 11:56:48 AM

Quote from: jkoil on February 26, 2014, 11:52:52 AM

Maybe NEM will have some benefits from the Egalitarian.
There will not be such whales (unless there are some groups of sockpuppets), who are just waiting ...

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.5384028

The question is does it make a difference if you have few people harding a lot compared to many people hoarding less. POI will be a huge factor here but I still think many stakeholders are going to sit on their NEM waiting to dump it once it get's the first big spike.

This can be both a good and bad thing.

Yes, people can dump, but this just means those who recognize the value in NEM will buy up. Yes, sure, this may mean existing stakeholders may just accumulate more NEM, making the distribution more unbalanced, but this may not necessarily be a bad thing if said individual has their priorities right and actually has an active involvement in (this) community/thread.

In regards to my own stake, i hope to contribute as much as i can to the community as i lack the knowledge and experience to do so in any other way.

I may not participate much, but i pay much attention to threads such as this.

What i'm seeing in regards to NXT is pretty much exactly what i feared; A select minority -- who have no involvement in the community -- accumulating large sums, with the sole intent to likely dump as soon as it's valuable. It goes without saying that if you hold a large sum in any crypto, it's in YOUR long term interest to cooperate with the community as much as possible. Sadly greed often blinds people and it wouldn't surprise me if they do this with an agenda...sabotage the coin, perhaps.

Proof-of-Stake may actually make the currency less stable in the sense that if you have a large stake, you don't want to be holding it if everything crashes down. So large stakeholders have an incentive to dump before everyone else, which would crash the currency (in a self-fulfilling way). Also, PoS does not work if short-selling is supported for a currency.

makoto1337

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I am not Dorian Nakamoto.

Quote from: patmast3r on February 26, 2014, 11:56:48 AM

Quote from: jkoil on February 26, 2014, 11:52:52 AM

Maybe NEM will have some benefits from the Egalitarian.
There will not be such whales (unless there are some groups of sockpuppets), who are just waiting ...

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.5384028

The question is does it make a difference if you have few people harding a lot compared to many people hoarding less. POI will be a huge factor here but I still think many stakeholders are going to sit on their NEM waiting to dump it once it get's the first big spike.

In the beginning, yes, those who want a quick profit will dump and run. Those who want to create a new economic movement will stay. That is why it is important to include businesses in the NEM community, so that people can use NEM in their daily lives.

makoto1337

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I am not Dorian Nakamoto.

Quote from: opticalcarrier on February 26, 2014, 09:58:38 AM

Quote from: xibeijan on February 26, 2014, 08:13:09 AM

Proof of importance? I've just skimmed, but how is this calculated?

Can someone explain this, IN DETAIL? We need to start looking at the algorithm critically to make sure it cannot be easily exploited.

Yes, the details will be made publicly available. I am still developing and testing POI, but the source and tests will be public. I am also working on a whitepaper to explain the algorithm. We should have an alpha version of the blockchain up for us developers to play with in a few weeks. Based on tests there, there might be some changes, so I think the detailed explanation of POI will be 1-2 months from now.

I think POI will not be any more controversial than POS, however. I think POI will be safer than POS because it will be harder for any single entity to take control of the network.

There are a few different algorithms and variations I am trying, so I hope everyone will be patient as we try to develop something new, innovate, and more secure (and fairer).

Jaguar0625

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Quote from: erkki12 on February 26, 2014, 11:06:20 AM

Quote from: opticalcarrier on February 26, 2014, 09:58:38 AM

Quote from: xibeijan on February 26, 2014, 08:13:09 AM

Proof of importance? I've just skimmed, but how is this calculated?

Can someone explain this, IN DETAIL? We need to start looking at the algorithm critically to make sure it cannot be easily exploited.

I think you should pm makoto1337 about this

The details haven't been finalized yet. We're in the process of running some simulations.

hisun

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Quote from: jkoil on February 26, 2014, 10:25:18 AM

Quote from: Althoelzer on February 26, 2014, 10:05:26 AM

Quote from: jkoil on February 26, 2014, 09:56:30 AM

Quote from: makoto1337 on February 26, 2014, 02:26:16 AM

Quote from: jkoil on February 25, 2014, 09:18:24 AM

Quote from: AAAple12 on February 24, 2014, 01:53:22 PM

...

X * quote ...

Apparently I made a wrong evaluation in the beginning of this NEM IPO;
and ofc let the previous NXT logo competition "scare"

Otherwise everything would have been so much easier and saved network bandwidth Wink

Suggestions (drafts) for NEM logo and currency symbol:

https://i.imgur.com/3CmjQ99.png

https://i.imgur.com/q8cfQnC.png

https://i.imgur.com/Zj7Fa7A.png

https://i.imgur.com/q8HOwwA.png

https://i.imgur.com/xFUT8Wc.png

Last three are kind of interesting. The balance could be a little better, though.

Thanks for the positive feedback. (I guess it was such

)

What do you mean by better balance? ... I'm willing to draw better drafts if it is possible

Those drafts are kind of results of an evolution: started from "NEM" ...

And the same for the currency symbol. They are usually one letter + (long/short) lines like $, £, €.
I was thinking that a letter is too common for NEM. But on the other hand it shouldn't be totally new symbol, which is coming outside of our alphabets

But, I'd still develope the images, if they have any perfectible draft

Hello Jkoil.

I like your work especially that kind you play with colors, however could you try to create a colored symbol similar to the symbol located in signature of patmast3r?

I mean, it's just a proposal.

Unfortunately I'm not a graphic-artist or programmer Sad

Regards

ok, that proposal was quite easy to do, if you wanted just one-color-NEMs. Shades and such effects are out of my tools

very nice
i like. Grin

Parana

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Step into a world!! A P2P world!

Really cool.

I loved this one!!!

Quote from: play4ce on February 26, 2014, 05:35:03 PM

Hey Guys,

this is Version 2 of my logo

as usual feel free to use, share & modify!

-> blue
-> white

-> blue
-> white
[/center]

feedback appreciated!
btw, Im still undecided on the color scheme.
maybe the "learn more"-button color is a good choice.

I

ZeroTheGreat

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Quote from: erkki12 on February 26, 2014, 08:01:20 PM

Yes it is. Please check the first post of this thread or ournem.com

OK. I'll check, I'd be wrong.

Quote from: erkki12 on February 26, 2014, 08:01:20 PM

I think we both know that I was talking about the fact that there were 73 NXT stakeholders at the beginning. There will be no question about will NEM have more individual stakeholders from the start.

Words "so far" I disagreed with.

nxt_rainbow

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Quote from: play4ce on February 26, 2014, 05:35:03 PM

Hey Guys,

this is version 2 of my logo

as usual feel free to use & modify!

http://imageshack.com/a/img22/5011/d3v8.jpg

---

http://imageshack.com/a/img607/1900/dgq1.png

-> blue
-> white

http://imageshack.com/a/img547/7945/7414.png

-> blue
-> white

feedback appreciated!
btw, Im still undecided on the color scheme.
maybe the "learn more"-button color is a good choice.

cool !

erkki12

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Quote from: ZeroTheGreat on February 26, 2014, 06:58:25 PM

Quote from: erkki12 on February 26, 2014, 05:23:52 PM

but you can sign up on the waiting list here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.5159558

It's not a waiting list.

Yes it is. Please check the first post of this thread or ournem.com

Quote from: ZeroTheGreat on February 26, 2014, 07:03:35 PM

Quote from: erkki12 on February 26, 2014, 06:03:15 PM

If NXT has gotten this far with 73 stakeholders, just imagine what 3000 NEM'sters with better distribution can do Cheesy

!

Nope. So far there're 25294 Nxt's accs, part of accs - transit points, part - robbed/sold completely, part - darkNXT and in the end unknown amount of real people. Inintial was ~100 BTC addresses.

And so far for NEM ~3k BTT's accs, unknown amount of real people.

Redistribution could be more important for long-term success than initial distribution itself. Let's see how it'll roll out.

I think we both know that I was talking about the fact that there were 73 NXT stakeholders at the beginning. There will be no question about will NEM have more individual stakeholders from the start.

ZeroTheGreat

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Quote from: erkki12 on February 26, 2014, 06:03:15 PM

If NXT has gotten this far with 73 stakeholders, just imagine what 3000 NEM'sters with better distribution can do Cheesy

!

Nope. So far there're 25294 Nxt's accs, part of accs - transit points, part - robbed/sold completely, part - darkNXT and in the end unknown amount of real people. Inintial was ~100 BTC addresses.

And so far for NEM ~3k BTT's accs, unknown amount of real people.

Redistribution could be more important for long-term success than initial distribution itself. Let's see how it'll roll out.

ZeroTheGreat

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Quote from: erkki12 on February 26, 2014, 05:23:52 PM

but you can sign up on the waiting list here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.5159558

It's not a waiting list.

himmelsfaller2

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Quote from: erkki12 on February 26, 2014, 06:03:15 PM

Now this is just to cheer up all the NEM'sters out there. A quote from NXT's official thread from come-from-beyond when talking about NXT's distribution:

Quote from: Come-from-Beyond on October 19, 2013, 09:23:16 AM

Quote from: matt608 on October 19, 2013, 09:13:25 AM

The main issue I see is distributing the coins to enough people.

Agree. Without at least 100 users on start the whole currency is pointless. I would spend collected bitcoins for advertising instead of development of advanced features.

We have a wonderful community atm! If NXT has gotten this far with 73 stakeholders, just imagine what 3000 NEM'sters with better distribution can do Cheesy

!

Thats a really important point. People who work hard in development and marketing, communication, ideas......need sometimes to rest.
With that much members there may other members take over some work and bring in fresh sights. So it will be very inspiring and
it's sort of very interesting experiment how fast and how far we can go.....

wakasaki808

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Quote from: amdfxman1701 on February 26, 2014, 06:13:30 PM

Quote from: play4ce on February 26, 2014, 05:35:03 PM

Hey Guys,

this is Version 2 of my logo

as usual feel free to use, share & modify!

-> blue
-> white

-> blue
-> white
[/center]

feedback appreciated!
btw, Im still undecided on the color scheme.
maybe the "learn more"-button color is a good choice.

It's cool, but I don't know about the "M." Seems a but unclear to me. If I didn't know what NEM was, I'm not sure I'd be able to differentiate letters on a quick glance.

reminds me of the Target Company logo. Still looks nice though

amdfxman1701

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Quote from: play4ce on February 26, 2014, 05:35:03 PM

Hey Guys,

this is Version 2 of my logo

as usual feel free to use, share & modify!

-> blue
-> white

-> blue
-> white
[/center]

feedback appreciated!
btw, Im still undecided on the color scheme.
maybe the "learn more"-button color is a good choice.

It's cool, but I don't know about the "M." Seems a but unclear to me. If I didn't know what NEM was, I'm not sure I'd be able to differentiate letters on a quick glance.

erkki12

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Now this is just to cheer up all the NEM'sters out there. A quote from NXT's official thread from come-from-beyond when talking about NXT's distribution:

Quote from: Come-from-Beyond on October 19, 2013, 09:23:16 AM

Quote from: matt608 on October 19, 2013, 09:13:25 AM

The main issue I see is distributing the coins to enough people.

Agree. Without at least 100 users on start the whole currency is pointless. I would spend collected bitcoins for advertising instead of development of advanced features.

We have a wonderful community atm! If NXT has gotten this far with 73 stakeholders, just imagine what 3000 NEM'sters with better distribution can do Cheesy

!

play4ce

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Hey Guys,

this is version 2 of my logo

as usual feel free to use & modify!

http://imageshack.com/a/img22/5011/d3v8.jpg

---

http://imageshack.com/a/img607/1900/dgq1.png

-> blue
-> white

http://imageshack.com/a/img547/7945/7414.png

-> blue
-> white

feedback appreciated!
btw, Im still undecided on the color scheme.
maybe the "learn more"-button color is a good choice.

erkki12

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Activity: 165

Merit: 104

Quote from: papamoi on February 26, 2014, 05:19:09 PM

hi

how to be part of this?

The IPO has been completed, but you can sign up on the waiting list here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.5159558

Hope you get will get on board!

papamoi

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hi

how to be part of this?

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