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Topic: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread - page 341. (Read 661525 times)

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55 shares straight from bter, funds from exchange address should be returned.
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My plan is to use taint analysis to link closely related accounts together. And we will limit the holding of these closely related accounts to 5 stakes, anything above that would be refunded.

We can't really say for sure all these related accounts is just one person. It is possible that a group of friends is buying via one big account holder and but one account still represent one person. It is a good thing if someone can draw a close friend or two of him into crypto because of this opportunity and then they can can help to promote NEM in differently ways locally. But I would like to restrict these groups to a maximum of 5 stakes.

I asked Kooream to compile population statistics so that we can see have a glimpse of how many unique accounts/ individuals we could have. I expect group 1, accounts created  before the fundraising, consists mainly of unique accounts and as well as accounts in group 2, accounts created during the fundraising but engaged in more activities. Counting both groups, we already have roughly 1500 stakeholders, so that's a good thing.  

It is expected that stakeholders can buy 1 more share for loved one/ family member as well so a certain percentage of group 3 account falls into this category. A certain portion accounts in group 3 are also unique accounts but they are not yet active so they should be able to keep their shares. The remaining are likely sockpuppet accounts and we will try to refund them using the taint analysis.

I have finished the unified list and will post them momentarily. Let's wait 1-2 days before we start the public auditing. There will be guidelines and bounties announced for the efforts. Generally the public auditing includes: public checking for errors, discrepancies in the stakeholder list; public checking for big multi-accouter using taint analysis.

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I can help to do something about nxt account if necessary,
I made a statistic about the accounts that sent nxt to fundraising account,14343293611098709683.
at this level, there're not too much multibuyers, the following are top10, the first one is bter account:
Code:
ntrans.   account-id          total trans. of the account
55      10715382765594435905  6148
22       6635869272840226493 11747
13      10739916011970556785    24
12       3231774856984709013    21
7        3243382701527979272  1248
5        2449360251152267661    12
4        9795201389880306166    13
4         667929933529800118    11
3       17468995783587228756     4
3       16312789197984036211     4
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Hello, I am an early stakeholder of NEM, and I just wanted to voice my approval of the project.
I wish I could offer more assistance currently, but im just bogged down at work.

Thanks
-gadsden
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We have a waiting list here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=467027.200 make a post there if you want to join the waiting list. We will add some more people after the public auditing.

Thanks for the help Grin
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Unfortunately I'm not a programmer and may you laugh me, but what if we would write another coin (little brother of NEM), which would only be possible to mine/forge by trading and/or holding NEM?
The more you hold, the more you mine. Also if you sell or buy some NEM you're earning some of the little brother. NEM should get an unbelievable thrust through and it would people
even more animate to use this Movement.

More I would bet some little stakes for Social Media, especially pages which are specialized for enlightening peepz and tell them about our current monetary system .
100 000 NEM for example for https://www.facebook.com/Killuminati.for.Wakeup?fref=ts when posting about us.
This may would bring a big thrust of new takers interested to Cryptocurrency because 372 000 sociocritical people would read and hear about it.

Tell me what you think of it Smiley

good idea.
nem finally started.up up. Grin Grin
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Ok Thanks, that helps... also I know im late, but is it still possible to get stake through assisting NEM in some way.

Or buying from current stakeholders.

Thanks,
EFFV

We have a waiting list here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=467027.200 make a post there if you want to join the waiting list. We will add some more people after the public auditing.
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Ok Thanks, that helps... also I know im late, but is it still possible to get stake through assisting NEM in some way.

Or buying from current stakeholders.

Thanks,
EFFV
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So what is the official name, nemcoin or nem.

I like nemcoin.

edit: I ask because of the domains.

nemcoin.com + its subdomains is about the blockchain and relating apps.
ournem.com will be more about community's projects.
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So what is the official name, nemcoin or nem.

I like nemcoin.

Nemcoin is the blockchain. NEM is the currency unit. New Economy Movement (NEM) refers to the whole community. That's my idea but you could refer to the blockchain as NEM too. Some people prefer that way.
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So what is the official name, nemcoin or nem.

I like nemcoin.

edit: I ask because of the domains.
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I am just thinking how this thread will blow up when we are on the testnet and then on the first mainnet beta.  Roll Eyes

And just to remind everyone that it is your responsibility to check your stakeholder status in the list and let us know if there is an issue in the stake complaint thread.
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Guys how about doing something along these themes for our logo:





The first one is the official international sign for humanity its called Happy Human Grin . wiki says BHA licenses this trademark to humanist organizations , maybe it suits our values too.

that's the crypto Ubuntu Smiley  
when I read NEM's first page, it reminded ubuntu... It is some african word.

As an artist I've looked several coins logos. It's little bit amusing that there is more variation only in the text fonts than in creation of something different and new, especially when you all are tryin to create a new captivating coin.

 Only these have at least some trying to be creative


http://www.flickr.com/photos/115246188@N06/12489315183/





It is quite difficult to come up with original logo idea I would say because it also has to be relevant to NEM's core principles. I think we have a few nice NEM text variations but it is another level represent NEM successfully with some kind of shapes, abstract concept etc.
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Unfortunately I'm not a programmer and may you laugh me, but what if we would write another coin (little brother of NEM), which would only be possible to mine/forge by trading and/or holding NEM?
The more you hold, the more you mine. Also if you sell or buy some NEM you're earning some of the little brother. NEM should get an unbelievable thrust through and it would people
even more animate to use this Movement.

More I would bet some little stakes for Social Media, especially pages which are specialized for enlightening peepz and tell them about our current monetary system .
100 000 NEM for example for https://www.facebook.com/Killuminati.for.Wakeup?fref=ts when posting about us.
This may would bring a big thrust of new people interested to Cryptocurrency because 372 000 sociocritical people would read about it.

Tell me what you think of it Smiley

It is very nice idea and it is doable via creating asset/ coin on top of the asset exchange. 
sr. member
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Unfortunately I'm not a programmer and may you laugh me, but what if we would write another coin (little brother of NEM), which would only be possible to mine/forge by trading and/or holding NEM?
The more you hold, the more you mine. Also if you sell or buy some NEM you're earning some of the little brother. NEM should get an unbelievable thrust through and it would people
even more animate to use this Movement.

More I would bet some little stakes for Social Media, especially pages which are specialized for enlightening peepz and tell them about our current monetary system .
100 000 NEM for example for https://www.facebook.com/Killuminati.for.Wakeup?fref=ts when posting about us.
This may would bring a big thrust of new takers interested to Cryptocurrency because 372 000 sociocritical people would read and hear about it.

Tell me what you think of it Smiley
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NEM official stakeholder list (before the public auditing).

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AlidWok7hW0DdHVfeU1BRFVoZkJ6QTRvcjc2cTQzQ2c#gid=0

From now on we will use this list instead of the previous stakeholder list which will be used for checking references only.

My name is on column G. Does that mean I get a stake?

Guys!

Try to use CTRL+f to find your names.

I'm in !  Smiley
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Or something like this Smiley

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-bR4p_6qvDfg/UwzZzYf7SVI/AAAAAAAAACA/GxZLIr5yCMo/w635-h549-no/20101115205459_four-friends.jpg

This is called The four harmonious friends. The story fits our values,

Once in a forest in Varanasi, four animals, an elephant, a rabbit, a monkey and a bird (partridge) disputed about the ownership of a tree where all of them happened to come to feed on. The elephant claimed it was his because he saw it first. The monkey said that it was his because he had been feeding on the fruits of the tree. The rabbit claimed it was his because he had been feeding on the dew of the leaves on the tree when it was a small sapling. The partridge who had been watching the argument said that the tree belonged to it because the tree wouldn't have grown if it had not spit out the seed from the fruit it had eaten.

The elephant, monkey and rabbit all then bowed to the partridge and regarded it as their big brother. The four animals became friends and decided to share the tree together in peaceful harmony enjoying the beauty of the tree's fragrance, the nourishment of the tree's fruits, and the bounty of the tree's shade.

Other animals in the forest often saw them together with the partridge on top of the rabbit who was held up by the monkey who rode on top of the elephant. Henceforth, they were called the four harmonious friends. The four animals were looked upon as an example and peace regained in the forest.

There are about five different version of the story but they all had the same moral -- respect to elders, love and affection to live harmoniously.


Nice story. I like it!
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Guys how about doing something along these themes for our logo:





The first one is the official international sign for humanity its called Happy Human Grin . wiki says BHA licenses this trademark to humanist organizations , maybe it suits our values too.

that's the crypto Ubuntu Smiley  
when I read NEM's first page, it reminded ubuntu... It is some african word.

As an artist I've looked several coins logos. It's little bit amusing that there is more variation only in the text fonts than in creation of something different and new, especially when you all are tryin to create a new captivating coin.

 Only these have at least some trying to be creative


http://www.flickr.com/photos/115246188@N06/12489315183/



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I think we should make a simple Excel list with all the stakeholders filtered out the original list and put it in an alphabetic order.

A little effort to make to spare much time, complaints and newbie questions now.

The official list follows registration order so that it can be linked to reference sources when necessary. For why 2 lists instead of 1, it is easier to check duplicate hashes/ tx id that way/. A lot of times was spent on combating fraudsters.    


What if a fraudster had written some meaningless comment to thread 1.
Later, when he finds that someone in thread 2 has not yet written his hash,
then he steals that hash and adds it to his post in thread 1.

How you would find that fraudster's and someone's hash are same?


Both threads were locked long ago. No editing possible. Read here as well https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.5186684 the fee changed every 10 pages, so hash/ tx. id can be stolen in that range only otherwise they would not be valid. Time stamp check is used as well.

How about this: the fraudster is a veteran and steals the hash from thread 1 and writes it to his post in thread 2, when it was not locked? Smiley


1. hash from thread 1 and thread 2 have different values ---> remember fee jumped every 10 pages and it changed from thread 1 to 2 as well.

2. transaction time-stamp won't match anyway.

3. Everything can be reversed with the ultimate proof of hash/ tx. id ownership. Just sent a minimum amount to NEM address from the same sending address and pm us the transaction.
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I think we should make a simple Excel list with all the stakeholders filtered out the original list and put it in an alphabetic order.

A little effort to make to spare much time, complaints and newbie questions now.

The official list follows registration order so that it can be linked to reference sources when necessary. For why 2 lists instead of 1, it is easier to check duplicate hashes/ tx id that way/. A lot of times was spent on combating fraudsters.    


What if a fraudster had written some meaningless comment to thread 1.
Later, when he finds that someone in thread 2 has not yet written his hash,
then he steals that hash and adds it to his post in thread 1.

How you would find that fraudster's and someone's hash are same?


Both threads were locked long ago. No editing possible. Read here as well https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.5186684 the fee changed every 10 pages, so hash/ tx. id can be stolen in that range only otherwise they would not be valid. Time stamp check is used as well.







How about this: the fraudster is a veteran and steals the hash from thread 1 and writes it to his post in thread 2, when it was not locked? Smiley

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