Topic: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread - page 354. (Read 661525 times)

Guys ignore 2Kool!

Pleas consider my Idea about Crypto Company or Company account in Crypto world:

We can arrange for a company account!
We can have two type of accounts, Personal accounts and company accounts like any Bank.
Personal accounts can act just like normal currency accounts. One person have the total control over the account while he/she have it's credentials.
But Company accounts can include several personal accounts. each personal account is a member of board of company and can participate in decisions.
Company board members can decide how the payments from company account should be made.
They will vote for a logical order that showing how payments from company account should be made.

For example:

Payments from Company Account(CA) can be confirmed if "Personal Account A"(PS-A) confirm it.
Payments from CA can be confirmed if "PS-A and PS-B" confirm it.
Payments from CA can be confirmed if "PS-A or (PS-B and PS-C)" confirm it.

So in this case the system can:

1-Form a company in virtual world.
2-The company board can take decisions according to the voting system we implemented separately for a "logical order".
3-payments from company can be made according to combination of Personal entities defined in "logical order"
4-Members of board at anytime can change the "logical order" of company so they can change the CEO of company as they wish.
5-The company after forming can announce Assets in Asset exchange feature. so everyone can be a stake holder of an asset of company. And receive dividends.

It's just a new Idea aroused in my mind!

I think every one that implement this idea in his currency will have the future!

During the Nem fundraising, whenever I saw someone that I felt was a good person character wise a light bulb would pop at the top of my head and I would think, “I should tell them about Nem.” So when I read that you’re willing to give away 10% of your Nem coins that light bulb popped with that feeling that I should let you know about Nem, and then I was like, “Oh wait.” It’s truly a habit.

I thought more about it’s best for NEM not to get involved.

1. They are already being taken care of, and I wouldn’t want Nem to be seemed as if they’re just doing it for the attention.
2. It would be a lot of work for Utopianfuture, dividing one stake between 149 people.
3. It would be really, really hard determining who really got scammed, since it wasn’t quite as organized as NEM. I think they had to PM the scammer with their transaction ID.
4. The scammer himself could send BTC to his scam address and then claim that he’s also a victim. Receive Nem on top of the 69.5 BTC he scammed.

It doesn’t seem like the best cause since others are already stepping up. I felt really bad for them, and left words of encouragement, because so many were putting them down for believing and making a bad decision.

Today I got a $65 bill from PayPal, because someone that I sold coins to did a charge back on me. ($45 plus I had to pay a $20 fee to the bank of the person who scammed me). He seemed like a nice guy at first. So right now I’m at a point where if anything of charity should be done, it should go towards an undeniable good cause, vs random people trying to make money. Because these coins attract a lot of scummy people, and I’m sure some of those who got scammed would fit in that category, and getting scammed would be a good life lesson for them.

He was not kicked out, all he had to do was say, he was interested. His pride got in the way The man clearly wants to see NEM fail   . Yet he wants a stake, just incase it succeeds   Would you want such a person as a member , still he was given the option to remain a member, simply by saying " interested" .

this issue is becoming a distraction. We should just ignore him.

@2Kool4Skewl:

You didn't just bring your objections forward you were trolling. Someone asked how he, as a dev could help and you told him to "copy & paste" clearly refering to NEM as a clone of nxt. Is that what you mean by bringing forward your objections in a civilised manner ?

Your are absolutely right. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and free speech is one of the most important rights we have as humans. But just because everyone can say what ever they want doesn't mean everyone else has to be fine with it does it? I don't think you understand what free speech means.

Everytime UP tellls you you can have your stake back, you start complaining again how unfair NEM is. If you want your stake back just clearly state it in a post without anny further insults or so and be done with it. If not leave the people here alone.

I don't agree with 2Kool4Skewl . Nem (at least now, even though not originally) will be new code written from scratch. Since it's not Nxt's fork, the developers should get something for their effort.  I don't have a problem with that.  I just don't think he should have been kicked out for posting something stupid.

Why don't you buy yourself a nice fishing rod?

Well, I appreciate your concerns (seriously, i do) However i have my doubts whether or not you speak with sincerity.

Nonetheless, if i'm wrong, you should've been in the Stackcoin thread; as far as i'm aware, more money was lost there than whats been put into NEM. Stackcoin won't be the last.


If people wish to pay NXT into NEM, this is their choice and certainly not wrong as you clearly imply. I can't help but sense the irony in your words when you imply such a thing, only to then in your next breath say NEM is pretty much a dictatorship.


Anyway, i'm done.

@2kool: Our forging algorithm is innovative and many of the ideas we are putting forth for future versions of NEM are very different from what NXT or other altcoins are doing. We are implementing everything from scratch, so there are many design decisions that are being made that are different from other coins.

In short: don't worry. NEM is not a clone of NXT. We are creating new technology that will push the whole community forward.

You are wrong.  I raised my objection, because I was looking out for the interests of the community.  I didn't see a lot of innovation imo and I saw a lot of Nxt / Btc being collected.

I think he loves the attention , please ignore and lets move foward.

I think 2kool simply just want be a troll here. And deliberately so, not passionately. He don't like NEM, he don't want it succeed out in the world. He is not here for an argument, and nobody can wake a man pretending to be in sleep.

He just want to sow as much discord here as he can. I suggest, don't waste any energy on him any more and move on.

You make a lot of assumptions.  How do you know how much I have?

All I said was that I didn't think it was ethical to be collecting Nxt / Btc and giving them little innovation.

He is one of 10 million + nxt stakeholder so he doesnt really need or want nem stake. It is just a pure act of sabotaging. But I would like to see how good his reasoning is holding up.
I have many friends in next community and some of them  holds millions of nxt so his acting is kind of an anomaly. It is kind of dissapointing that he may think he acts in the benefit of nxt.

I am going to give my personal opinion here...
Freedom of speech is important and should be preserved and defended at any cost. But, come on 2Kool4Skewl , you have an obvious conflict of interest here. Your opinion has an agenda; and I would like to read a disclaimer from you about it. In that case, your opinion can be weighted properly for the rest of the community and the newbies that are out of context

Lmao - since when did mobs cast votes? (especially ones that are clearly in favor of the "victim")

Kool, seriously, whats your agenda? (Divide and conquer, perhaps? ) I for one think this entire thing is completely unnecessary.

By joining NEM, you are supposed to support NEM's first principle of " building a new decentralized platform" as well.

Yeah, I think it is times. I am 2 hour late for the bedtime

Why is it that when 2kool starts complaining on this thread he has like an entourage of people coming in here with him?

Utopian decided because he's the one running this thing the way he set it up, with support of everyone in the community who were complaining about 2kool bashing and putting down NEM. Calling Nem a scam.

Then 2kool comes with more of his irrational arguments, but this time with his buddy trolls.

This is the same thing.  By joining Nem, you get a stake.  Supposedly.


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