Go get some sleep now, you sure deserve it.
Take your time with the list, we'll be here waiting when you're ready anyway.
Topic: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread - page 355. (Read 661525 times)
February 24, 2014, 01:13:14 AM
Utopianfuture thanks for all the hard work.
Go get some sleep now, you sure deserve it.
Take your time with the list, we'll be here waiting when you're ready anyway.
Go get some sleep now, you sure deserve it.
Take your time with the list, we'll be here waiting when you're ready anyway.
February 24, 2014, 01:10:02 AM
Yeah I don't like what you said about NEM.
Exactly. It was you taking personal offence. There is no evidence this decision was made by other "developers" or the community. It was just YOU deciding you were going to kick out someone after the IPO ended.
Again it is not an IPO. Read my earlier post to understand what NEM is. New Economy Movement is an community/ association/ movement. You paid a fee to join NEM not to buy a stake.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.5329947
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.5329482
February 24, 2014, 01:05:50 AM
Yeah I don't like what you said about NEM.
Exactly. It was you taking personal offence. There is no evidence this decision was made by other "developers" or the community. It was just YOU deciding you were going to kick out someone after the IPO ended.
February 24, 2014, 01:03:08 AM
I am supposed to publish the unified stakeholder list today but I have just finished thread 1. I apologize for the delay but I do need some sleep now so will be back at work tomorrow. Be patient
UP
UP
Are you going to kick anyone else out of the genesis block?
At your discretion, you mean, right? I still want my stake, but you are forcefully kicking me out.
At the discretion of the development team. Read the disclaimer.
LOL
So, you will just kick out anyone if you don't like what they say. Wow.
A movement for economic liberty that doesn't allow free speech is worthless.
Free speech is fine. I think you can pretty much say anything you want. We just don't like you. This is voluntary association http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voluntary_association; we cant force the community to stay with you.
You don't like me because of what I said.
Yeah I don't like what you said about NEM.
it is not government. it is free association. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voluntary_association
Free association, but you get to decide who can associate, right?
I can decide who I associate with. A private association/ community can decide what kind of member is accepted within the association/ community.
That's not true. I'm associating with the community. Under your logic, they should decide if I should stay. They are holding a mob vote. The voting results are currently in favor that I can stay, but you said it was only your decision.
February 24, 2014, 12:59:04 AM
I have an idea. A lot of people were scammed out of 69.5 Bitcoins by this guy who posted a celebratory gif to rub it in their faces. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.5302833
Then Bumface came up with the idea of creating a new coin, premine it a little and give it to the people who scammed. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/community-coin-482339
I thought that was really nice.
What about taking one Nem stake and also dividing it up and giving it to the victims?
It's just an idea.
Then Bumface came up with the idea of creating a new coin, premine it a little and give it to the people who scammed. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/community-coin-482339
I thought that was really nice.
What about taking one Nem stake and also dividing it up and giving it to the victims?
It's just an idea.
This is a great idea, they are like our brothers. Would be a very nice gesture by NEM community. Very , very good idea j23a. How can we be sure they don't have NEM stake already ?
I guess we can check their names in the stakeholder's lists. But even if they're in the list I'm sure a few extra coins won't be too bad. Take one stake, see what percentage one of the investors spent, and give them a percentage of one Nem stake.
For example this one guy invested 2 Bitcoins, which is 2.8% of the total invested. If one Nem stake is 1,000,000, then he would get 28,766.98 Nem coins.
It's all just a suggestion, and hopefully my math is correct.
I'm not in trello. It's the first time I've heard of the word.
Everyone here get's an equal stake.
And we are looking for stakeholders that can contribute to the NEM community.
I'm not sure if this is a good idea.
I'm not talking about giving them each one stake, I'm talking about dividing one stake between 149 people who got scammed. At least 200 people got their Nem stake for free, using one stake to help out others is not a big deal. This is supposed to be a no envy movement.
Ok, I'm off to bed. I'll be back tomorrow.
Another idea is to signup with the micro-lending charity Kiva. Bitcoin already has a team.
http://www.kiva.org/team/bitcoin
We will be kiva.org/team/NEM
In addition to receiving fiat, the borrowers will also receive a portion in NEM directly to their wallet. Later to be traded with each other or sold on an exchange. This would be good exposure for NEM and could develop into the first major introduction of cryptocurrency to the thousands in need of a loan.
KIVA is a great idea. Still, they do charge excessive interest to the people they lend money too. That being said, I lend on Kiva.
February 24, 2014, 12:56:48 AM
I am supposed to publish the unified stakeholder list today but I have just finished thread 1. I apologize for the delay but I do need some sleep now so will be back at work tomorrow. Be patient
UP
UP
Are you going to kick anyone else out of the genesis block?
At your discretion, you mean, right? I still want my stake, but you are forcefully kicking me out.
At the discretion of the development team. Read the disclaimer.
LOL
So, you will just kick out anyone if you don't like what they say. Wow.
A movement for economic liberty that doesn't allow free speech is worthless.
Free speech is fine. I think you can pretty much say anything you want. We just don't like you. This is voluntary association http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voluntary_association; we cant force the community to stay with you.
You don't like me because of what I said.
Yeah I don't like what you said about NEM.
it is not government. it is free association. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voluntary_association
Free association, but you get to decide who can associate, right?
I can decide who I associate with. A private association/ community can decide what kind of member is accepted within the association/ community.
February 24, 2014, 12:54:31 AM
I am supposed to publish the unified stakeholder list today but I have just finished thread 1. I apologize for the delay but I do need some sleep now so will be back at work tomorrow. Be patient
UP
UP
Are you going to kick anyone else out of the genesis block?
At your discretion, you mean, right? I still want my stake, but you are forcefully kicking me out.
At the discretion of the development team. Read the disclaimer.
LOL
So, you will just kick out anyone if you don't like what they say. Wow.
A movement for economic liberty that doesn't allow free speech is worthless.
Free speech is fine. I think you can pretty much say anything you want. We just don't like you. This is voluntary association http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voluntary_association; we cant force the community to stay with you.
You don't like me because of what I said.
Yeah I don't like what you said about NEM.
it is not government. it is free association. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voluntary_association
Free association, but you get to decide who can associate, right?
February 24, 2014, 12:51:47 AM
Looking at all the threads for uninspired altcoins, it's clear that NEM is really unique. Not sure how we got such a great community of people together, but somehow UtopianFuture pulled it off.
Remember guys, no envy.
Also, should someone try to e-mail these guys and ask for photos to use on ournem.com?
https://vimeo.com/85843499
There are some sweet photos online at: http://raskalov-vit.livejournal.com/134512.html
I'm thinking something like this with the crane photoshopped out: http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/9756/65616424.8c/0_a0bb3_4aa09adb_XXL.jpg
Remember guys, no envy.
Also, should someone try to e-mail these guys and ask for photos to use on ournem.com?
https://vimeo.com/85843499
There are some sweet photos online at: http://raskalov-vit.livejournal.com/134512.html
I'm thinking something like this with the crane photoshopped out: http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/9756/65616424.8c/0_a0bb3_4aa09adb_XXL.jpg
It appears they are fluent in Russian? I would ask them for permission, but if someone that speaks Russian well could get in touch with them, that would be awesome.
I think it is Ukrainian?
They seem to know some English.
February 24, 2014, 12:51:23 AM
I am supposed to publish the unified stakeholder list today but I have just finished thread 1. I apologize for the delay but I do need some sleep now so will be back at work tomorrow. Be patient
UP
UP
Are you going to kick anyone else out of the genesis block?
At your discretion, you mean, right? I still want my stake, but you are forcefully kicking me out.
At the discretion of the development team. Read the disclaimer.
LOL
So, you will just kick out anyone if you don't like what they say. Wow.
A movement for economic liberty that doesn't allow free speech is worthless.
Free speech is fine. I think you can pretty much say anything you want. We just don't like you. This is voluntary association http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voluntary_association; we cant force the community to stay with you.
You don't like me because of what I said.
Yeah I don't like what you said about NEM.
it is not government. it is free association. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voluntary_association
February 24, 2014, 12:50:39 AM
Hi all,
We all talk about NEM and a New Economy Movement. Here, I want to share a concrete example about what I think NEM can really help to build a better world:
http://editi[Suspicious link removed]/2014/02/13/world/africa/cocoa-nomics-from-bean-to-bar/index.html?hpt=hp_c4
Chocolate production s a business of billions of dollars. Most of the world’s cocoa comes from West Africa, with more than a third coming from the Ivory Coast alone. Cocoa is grown mainly on small, family-owned plantations by farmers living in poverty. According to the publication, only 3% of the total price of a chocolate bar goes to the producers. If we can make NEM a powerful coin, those producers will be able to sell directly their products, without the necessity to use intermediates that speculate with the price. Even more, if we hink even beyond the cryptocurrency itself; those producers can start to manufacture their own chocolate, increasing the value and selling directly to retailers or even better, to consumers; using all the features of NEM coin.
This is why I am here
We all talk about NEM and a New Economy Movement. Here, I want to share a concrete example about what I think NEM can really help to build a better world:
http://editi[Suspicious link removed]/2014/02/13/world/africa/cocoa-nomics-from-bean-to-bar/index.html?hpt=hp_c4
Chocolate production s a business of billions of dollars. Most of the world’s cocoa comes from West Africa, with more than a third coming from the Ivory Coast alone. Cocoa is grown mainly on small, family-owned plantations by farmers living in poverty. According to the publication, only 3% of the total price of a chocolate bar goes to the producers. If we can make NEM a powerful coin, those producers will be able to sell directly their products, without the necessity to use intermediates that speculate with the price. Even more, if we hink even beyond the cryptocurrency itself; those producers can start to manufacture their own chocolate, increasing the value and selling directly to retailers or even better, to consumers; using all the features of NEM coin.
This is why I am here
Not just cacao, but any kind of raw materials could be distributed through a P2P decentralized interface. Think alibaba, but on the asset market.
February 24, 2014, 12:49:45 AM
I am supposed to publish the unified stakeholder list today but I have just finished thread 1. I apologize for the delay but I do need some sleep now so will be back at work tomorrow. Be patient
UP
UP
Are you going to kick anyone else out of the genesis block?
At your discretion, you mean, right? I still want my stake, but you are forcefully kicking me out.
At the discretion of the development team. Read the disclaimer.
LOL
So, you will just kick out anyone if you don't like what they say. Wow.
A movement for economic liberty that doesn't allow free speech is worthless.
Free speech is fine. I think you can pretty much say anything you want. We just don't like you. This is voluntary association http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voluntary_association; we cant force the community to stay with you.
You don't like me because of what I said.
Yeah I don't like what you said about NEM.
February 24, 2014, 12:49:07 AM
I am supposed to publish the unified stakeholder list today but I have just finished thread 1. I apologize for the delay but I do need some sleep now so will be back at work tomorrow. Be patient
UP
UP
Are you going to kick anyone else out of the genesis block?
At your discretion, you mean, right? I still want my stake, but you are forcefully kicking me out.
I am sorry for sticking my nose in here but the dev team are trying to have a vision realized, and you are the only one person who has caused such a stir here. Otherwise everyone has been very optimistic. I know you have your views and opinion and that is your right but having one person who brings so much negativity against this project is a problem. I hope i don't cause offence to you as I don't even know you but having someone on board who spreads such discord is not within the interests of the movement.
Once again, sorry for sticking my nose in. I am just getting a bit agitated over this subject now.
Haven't you heard of freedom of speech?
You have the freedom of speech. We have the freedom to accept/ not accept certain people in our movement. You have freedom to join 1001 other movements/associations too.
I already claimed my stake before page twenty. Under your rules, I am entitled to my stake. You are kicking me out, because you don't like what I said.
Wrong. You qualified to join NEM (new economy movement) at that point, not entitled to a stake. Now you are not in NEM anymore.
I'm certainly glad I didn't pay for my "qualification". I was right all along. NEM is the biggest joke ever. You're a hypocrite.
it doesn't matter. if you paid money I will refund you. what kind of hypocrite ?
February 24, 2014, 12:48:32 AM
I am supposed to publish the unified stakeholder list today but I have just finished thread 1. I apologize for the delay but I do need some sleep now so will be back at work tomorrow. Be patient
UP
UP
Are you going to kick anyone else out of the genesis block?
At your discretion, you mean, right? I still want my stake, but you are forcefully kicking me out.
At the discretion of the development team. Read the disclaimer.
LOL
So, you will just kick out anyone if you don't like what they say. Wow.
A movement for economic liberty that doesn't allow free speech is worthless.
Free speech is fine. I think you can pretty much say anything you want. We just don't like you. This is voluntary association http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voluntary_association; we cant force the community to stay with you.
You don't like me because of what I said.
Yeah I don't like what you said about NEM.
February 24, 2014, 12:48:21 AM
I am supposed to publish the unified stakeholder list today but I have just finished thread 1. I apologize for the delay but I do need some sleep now so will be back at work tomorrow. Be patient
UP
UP
Are you going to kick anyone else out of the genesis block?
At your discretion, you mean, right? I still want my stake, but you are forcefully kicking me out.
I am sorry for sticking my nose in here but the dev team are trying to have a vision realized, and you are the only one person who has caused such a stir here. Otherwise everyone has been very optimistic. I know you have your views and opinion and that is your right but having one person who brings so much negativity against this project is a problem. I hope i don't cause offence to you as I don't even know you but having someone on board who spreads such discord is not within the interests of the movement.
Once again, sorry for sticking my nose in. I am just getting a bit agitated over this subject now.
Haven't you heard of freedom of speech?
You have the freedom of speech. We have the freedom to accept/ not accept certain people in our movement. You have freedom to join 1001 other movements/associations too.
I already claimed my stake before page twenty. Under your rules, I am entitled to my stake. You are kicking me out, because you don't like what I said.
Wrong. You qualified to join NEM (new economy movement) at that point, not entitled to a stake. Now you are not in NEM anymore.
I'm certainly glad I didn't pay for my "qualification". I was right all along. NEM is the biggest joke ever. You're a hypocrite.
February 24, 2014, 12:44:41 AM
I am supposed to publish the unified stakeholder list today but I have just finished thread 1. I apologize for the delay but I do need some sleep now so will be back at work tomorrow. Be patient
UP
UP
Are you going to kick anyone else out of the genesis block?
At your discretion, you mean, right? I still want my stake, but you are forcefully kicking me out.
At the discretion of the development team. Read the disclaimer.
LOL
So, you will just kick out anyone if you don't like what they say. Wow.
A movement for economic liberty that doesn't allow free speech is worthless.
Free speech is fine. I think you can pretty much say anything you want. We just don't like you. This is voluntary association http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voluntary_association; we cant force the community to stay with you.
You don't like me because of what I said.
February 24, 2014, 12:43:53 AM
I am supposed to publish the unified stakeholder list today but I have just finished thread 1. I apologize for the delay but I do need some sleep now so will be back at work tomorrow. Be patient
UP
UP
Are you going to kick anyone else out of the genesis block?
At your discretion, you mean, right? I still want my stake, but you are forcefully kicking me out.
I am sorry for sticking my nose in here but the dev team are trying to have a vision realized, and you are the only one person who has caused such a stir here. Otherwise everyone has been very optimistic. I know you have your views and opinion and that is your right but having one person who brings so much negativity against this project is a problem. I hope i don't cause offence to you as I don't even know you but having someone on board who spreads such discord is not within the interests of the movement.
Once again, sorry for sticking my nose in. I am just getting a bit agitated over this subject now.
Haven't you heard of freedom of speech?
You have the freedom of speech. We have the freedom to accept/ not accept certain people in our movement. You have freedom to join 1001 other movements/associations too.
I already claimed my stake before page twenty. Under your rules, I am entitled to my stake. You are kicking me out, because you don't like what I said.
Wrong. You qualified to join NEM (new economy movement) at that point, not entitled to a stake. Now you are not in NEM anymore.
February 24, 2014, 12:41:47 AM
I am supposed to publish the unified stakeholder list today but I have just finished thread 1. I apologize for the delay but I do need some sleep now so will be back at work tomorrow. Be patient
UP
UP
Are you going to kick anyone else out of the genesis block?
At your discretion, you mean, right? I still want my stake, but you are forcefully kicking me out.
At the discretion of the development team. Read the disclaimer.
LOL
So, you will just kick out anyone if you don't like what they say. Wow.
A movement for economic liberty that doesn't allow free speech is worthless.
Free speech is fine. I think you can pretty much say anything you want. We just don't like you. This is voluntary association http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voluntary_association; we cant force the community to stay with you.
February 24, 2014, 12:38:58 AM
I am supposed to publish the unified stakeholder list today but I have just finished thread 1. I apologize for the delay but I do need some sleep now so will be back at work tomorrow. Be patient
UP
UP
Are you going to kick anyone else out of the genesis block?
At your discretion, you mean, right? I still want my stake, but you are forcefully kicking me out.
I am sorry for sticking my nose in here but the dev team are trying to have a vision realized, and you are the only one person who has caused such a stir here. Otherwise everyone has been very optimistic. I know you have your views and opinion and that is your right but having one person who brings so much negativity against this project is a problem. I hope i don't cause offence to you as I don't even know you but having someone on board who spreads such discord is not within the interests of the movement.
Once again, sorry for sticking my nose in. I am just getting a bit agitated over this subject now.
Haven't you heard of freedom of speech?
You have the freedom of speech. We have the freedom to accept/ not accept certain people in our movement. You have freedom to join 1001 other movements/associations too.
As I said before if you want to join NEM back, I would welcome you. Just remember the first purpose of NEM is to build a new decentralized platform. If you say this goal is worthless, you can't be in.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.5330162
February 24, 2014, 12:38:17 AM
I am supposed to publish the unified stakeholder list today but I have just finished thread 1. I apologize for the delay but I do need some sleep now so will be back at work tomorrow. Be patient
UP
UP
Are you going to kick anyone else out of the genesis block?
At your discretion, you mean, right? I still want my stake, but you are forcefully kicking me out.
I am sorry for sticking my nose in here but the dev team are trying to have a vision realized, and you are the only one person who has caused such a stir here. Otherwise everyone has been very optimistic. I know you have your views and opinion and that is your right but having one person who brings so much negativity against this project is a problem. I hope i don't cause offence to you as I don't even know you but having someone on board who spreads such discord is not within the interests of the movement.
Once again, sorry for sticking my nose in. I am just getting a bit agitated over this subject now.
Haven't you heard of freedom of speech?
You have the freedom of speech. We have the freedom to accept/ not accept certain people in our movement. You have freedom to join 1001 other movements/associations too.
I already claimed my stake before page twenty. Under your rules, I am entitled to my stake. You are kicking me out, because you don't like what I said.
February 24, 2014, 12:37:04 AM
I am supposed to publish the unified stakeholder list today but I have just finished thread 1. I apologize for the delay but I do need some sleep now so will be back at work tomorrow. Be patient
UP
ExpectantlyUP
You should get more rest
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