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Topic: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread - page 51. (Read 661498 times)

full member
Activity: 127
Merit: 100
it's a disappointing experience to see that against all expectations of thread members, the price of nemstakes (AE) is steadily decreasing.
I was one of the first buyers and now I have to suffer from my greed.


I am crypto -nonexpert and a poor pensioner and was just looking for someone who gives me comfort. Thanks to the community for your compassion.

I would say: take a longer perspective. NEM would not fail your trust. Be active to protect your investment as well Smiley

Hmmhh
Pensioner and "take a longer perspective" Huh?
I already make moor baths to get used lying in moist soil.

Sir, sorry to be blunt...but do plan on being buried directly in the soil?

There are alternatives!

what in gods name was the point in asking that? for all you know he is just an elderly man. have some respect..

Do not worry about the pensioner.
Remember:
All days are the same length but different widths. Wink
hero member
Activity: 840
Merit: 500
Risk taker & Black Swan farmer.
I am surprised that the (large) majority of volunteer forms are filled by people who does not frequently appear in this thread. We wouldn't know them if there is no survey. I think there is a lot of hidden potential in the community. I would like to put the update result here everyday so the community can see what sort of people we are. Here is a copy with no personal information revealed.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AlidWok7hW0DdEFmTElmcHEzRGRya1JEVXpIbU5sTEE#gid=0

The survey will be run continuously until the official launch and I will update the copy frequently.

Repost
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Hi all Nemster, we have 2800 stakeholders. Some are sockpuppets. Some are selling at the first chance they have. But if you decide to stay for a while longer, then let's work to build an awesome community. Let's make NEM a place everyone wants to join in and build up the value of the brand. I am sure we can do that if we work together: developers, writer, marketer, translators, photographers, lawyers, etc. all are welcomed.

I prepared a survey that could help with the planning of marketing and ecosystem infrastructure for NEM and if you decide to stay and help, please fill it out.
  
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1b_8enfEjlP_NtCXlYhUUvcIEgEyhtwgroK9EdWa2vBc/viewform?usp=send_form

This is different from the Swarm list managed by Erkki12. This will be used for a comprehensive strategy that never be seen in the crypto world. (serious)

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The survey is the common resource for the NEM community not just for the core team. So fill it out if you want to be a part of NEM.

It's always great to see how the community builds up and the snowball gets bigger each day. It's a steady go for NEM.
hero member
Activity: 840
Merit: 500
Risk taker & Black Swan farmer.
it's a disappointing experience to see that against all expectations of thread members, the price of nemstakes (AE) is steadily decreasing.
I was one of the first buyers and now I have to suffer from my greed.

Volume continues to go up.  It appears it's people dumping their stakes.  This was vaguely expected, considering what people reserved their stakes for, but they'll be gone a lot quicker than say a hypothetical whale who controls a large percentage of a coin and is dumping it no matter what damage it may bring.

It could be a whale buying them up. Even worse would be a whale buying it up purely to sabotage the coin.

Just playing devils advocate here, as overall i think the AE is a good idea. But it would be foolish to not consider all possible outcomes.

Even with this said, i think the AE is a success in many ways and bodes well for the future value of this coin.

Obviously that's a possiblity and I think everybody is aware of that. I do however agree that overall the listing was the right choice.

I think we can also take a very important note here. High value assets on a cryptos AE can have considerable influence on the cryptos price. I guess this was obvious to others but I only now noticed now how great it can be if you manage to put some high demand assets on your AE.

So beside getting merchants on board it will also be vital to convince start-ups and projects to sell their assets on the NEM AE instead of others. We'll have to think of features that set our AE apart from all the other ones. AEs are almost a commong thing now so it'll be important to create not "just another AE".

Your are right on target.

This is why, exactly as you said, we will create a good incentive for people to list everything on NEM AE. Smiley
hero member
Activity: 585
Merit: 500
it's a disappointing experience to see that against all expectations of thread members, the price of nemstakes (AE) is steadily decreasing.
I was one of the first buyers and now I have to suffer from my greed.


I am crypto -nonexpert and a poor pensioner and was just looking for someone who gives me comfort. Thanks to the community for your compassion.

I would say: take a longer perspective. NEM would not fail your trust. Be active to protect your investment as well Smiley

Hmmhh
Pensioner and "take a longer perspective" Huh?
I already make moor baths to get used lying in moist soil.

Sir, sorry to be blunt...but do plan on being buried directly in the soil?

There are alternatives!
hero member
Activity: 767
Merit: 500
Never back down !!!
it's a disappointing experience to see that against all expectations of thread members, the price of nemstakes (AE) is steadily decreasing.
I was one of the first buyers and now I have to suffer from my greed.


I am crypto -nonexpert and a poor pensioner and was just looking for someone who gives me comfort. Thanks to the community for your compassion.

I would say: take a longer perspective. NEM would not fail your trust. Be active to protect your investment as well Smiley

Hmmhh
Pensioner and "take a longer perspective" Huh?
I already make moor baths to get used lying in moist soil.

"take a longer perspective" like in 6 months ? and not two days. I am tempted to insert a joke here but you may be offended  Grin
@utopianfuture , I think the shortest and wait until the launch of NEM. right?

I don't understand  the question but I will try to answer. There is no need to exchange stakes for tokens. Waiting for the launch is probably simplest and most profitable.

The most profitable is probably "sell your house and grab as much as you can"   Cheesy
full member
Activity: 183
Merit: 100
Up to now, how many  stakes for tokens?
sr. member
Activity: 602
Merit: 268
Internet of Value
it's a disappointing experience to see that against all expectations of thread members, the price of nemstakes (AE) is steadily decreasing.
I was one of the first buyers and now I have to suffer from my greed.


I am crypto -nonexpert and a poor pensioner and was just looking for someone who gives me comfort. Thanks to the community for your compassion.

I would say: take a longer perspective. NEM would not fail your trust. Be active to protect your investment as well Smiley

Hmmhh
Pensioner and "take a longer perspective" Huh?
I already make moor baths to get used lying in moist soil.

"take a longer perspective" like in 6 months ? and not two days. I am tempted to insert a joke here but you may be offended  Grin
@utopianfuture , I think the shortest and wait until the launch of NEM. right?

I don't understand  the question but I will try to answer. There is no need to exchange stakes for tokens. Waiting for the launch is probably simplest and most profitable.
full member
Activity: 183
Merit: 100
it's a disappointing experience to see that against all expectations of thread members, the price of nemstakes (AE) is steadily decreasing.
I was one of the first buyers and now I have to suffer from my greed.


I am crypto -nonexpert and a poor pensioner and was just looking for someone who gives me comfort. Thanks to the community for your compassion.

I would say: take a longer perspective. NEM would not fail your trust. Be active to protect your investment as well Smiley

Hmmhh
Pensioner and "take a longer perspective" Huh?
I already make moor baths to get used lying in moist soil.

"take a longer perspective" like in 6 months ? and not two days. I am tempted to insert a joke here but you may be offended  Grin
@utopianfuture , I think the shortest and wait until the launch of NEM. right?
sr. member
Activity: 602
Merit: 268
Internet of Value
it's a disappointing experience to see that against all expectations of thread members, the price of nemstakes (AE) is steadily decreasing.
I was one of the first buyers and now I have to suffer from my greed.


I am crypto -nonexpert and a poor pensioner and was just looking for someone who gives me comfort. Thanks to the community for your compassion.

I would say: take a longer perspective. NEM would not fail your trust. Be active to protect your investment as well Smiley

Hmmhh
Pensioner and "take a longer perspective" Huh?
I already make moor baths to get used lying in moist soil.

"take a longer perspective" like in 6 months ? and not two days. I am tempted to insert a joke here but you may be offended  Grin
full member
Activity: 127
Merit: 100
it's a disappointing experience to see that against all expectations of thread members, the price of nemstakes (AE) is steadily decreasing.
I was one of the first buyers and now I have to suffer from my greed.


I am crypto -nonexpert and a poor pensioner and was just looking for someone who gives me comfort. Thanks to the community for your compassion.

I would say: take a longer perspective. NEM would not fail your trust. Be active to protect your investment as well Smiley

Hmmhh
Pensioner and "take a longer perspective" Huh?
I already make moor baths to get used lying in moist soil.
legendary
Activity: 1232
Merit: 1001
mining is so 2012-2013

Some people have been working on making multisig on an account so when a person sends, they have to have their key, and then use a service (with google authenticator) to release another to key that allows funds to be sent.  This isn't using google authentication in the blockchain, but with multi-sig, it is more or less the same thing.  


You do not understand how crypto currency work. It's a decentralized system where you sign a transaction with a private key. Other people (all decentralized) can verify the signature by confirming that that public key owner signed the transaction.

There is no place for a "google authentication" or any centralized third party to verify anything.

You cannot have "google authentication" with Nxt

It's not a Gmail. It's not an exchange or online bank account where other server/person has control.


hahaha.  I don't actually understand much of how crypto currency words.  I have heard many people explain multi-sig though.  As far as I understand it, it goes like this.  There is not just one private key per account.  There can be 2 or 3 or however many a person wants to set up.  For a person to move money out of the account both private keys must be used.  A person then holds one private key on their home computer.  A service on the internet holds a second private key.  When a person wants to send money, the service with the second key is contacted, they will then only release the key once an account holder has done something like 2FA through google authenticator.  That service then confirms, that yes this is indeed the person the owner of the account and releases the 2nd key and funds are transferred.  This then means if somebody wants to get your bitcoins, they would have to compromise your computer, and your 2FA device.  In my case an old phone that doesn't have a plan and is hardly ever used.  That is two hardware devices, one of which is rarely even turned on.  

Here is Vitalik explaining it better than me. http://bitcoinmagazine.com/11108/multisig-future-bitcoin/
sr. member
Activity: 602
Merit: 268
Internet of Value
it's a disappointing experience to see that against all expectations of thread members, the price of nemstakes (AE) is steadily decreasing.
I was one of the first buyers and now I have to suffer from my greed.


I am crypto -nonexpert and a poor pensioner and was just looking for someone who gives me comfort. Thanks to the community for your compassion.

I would say: take a longer perspective. NEM would not fail your trust. Be active to protect your investment as well Smiley
full member
Activity: 127
Merit: 100
it's a disappointing experience to see that against all expectations of thread members, the price of nemstakes (AE) is steadily decreasing.
I was one of the first buyers and now I have to suffer from my greed.


I am crypto -nonexpert and a poor pensioner and was just looking for someone who gives me comfort. Thanks to the community for your compassion.
sr. member
Activity: 602
Merit: 268
Internet of Value
I am surprised that the (large) majority of volunteer forms are filled by people who does not frequently appear in this thread. We wouldn't know them if there is no survey. I think there is a lot of hidden potential in the community. I would like to put the update result here everyday so the community can see what sort of people we are. Here is a copy with no personal information revealed.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AlidWok7hW0DdEFmTElmcHEzRGRya1JEVXpIbU5sTEE#gid=0

The survey will be run continuously until the official launch and I will update the copy frequently.

Repost
--------------------------------------------

Hi all Nemster, we have 2800 stakeholders. Some are sockpuppets. Some are selling at the first chance they have. But if you decide to stay for a while longer, then let's work to build an awesome community. Let's make NEM a place everyone wants to join in and build up the value of the brand. I am sure we can do that if we work together: developers, writer, marketer, translators, photographers, lawyers, etc. all are welcomed.

I prepared a survey that could help with the planning of marketing and ecosystem infrastructure for NEM and if you decide to stay and help, please fill it out.
  
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1b_8enfEjlP_NtCXlYhUUvcIEgEyhtwgroK9EdWa2vBc/viewform?usp=send_form

This is different from the Swarm list managed by Erkki12. This will be used for a comprehensive strategy that never be seen in the crypto world. (serious)

--------------------------------------------
The survey is the common resource for the NEM community not just for the core team. So fill it out if you want to be a part of NEM.
newbie
Activity: 50
Merit: 0
anyone saying only sockpuppets/morons sell their stake at this stage...it's all about perspective.
what if I'd tell my mom:

"look mom I got this online money for free from some guy. and now it is worth ~$1,500. you think I should trade it for $? it's after all 3 months of paid rent...or a nice vacation, see the world a bit more. this is enough money to have a relatively small but real and positive impact on my life. I'm wondering because it might double or triple...or it may of course be worth less tomorow who knows"

she'd probably say:

"you be crazy if you hold you greedy sob"

and she would be right.
hero member
Activity: 980
Merit: 1001
it's a disappointing experience to see that against all expectations of thread members, the price of nemstakes (AE) is steadily decreasing.
I was one of the first buyers and now I have to suffer from my greed.

Volume continues to go up.  It appears it's people dumping their stakes.  This was vaguely expected, considering what people reserved their stakes for, but they'll be gone a lot quicker than say a hypothetical whale who controls a large percentage of a coin and is dumping it no matter what damage it may bring.

It could be a whale buying them up. Even worse would be a whale buying it up purely to sabotage the coin.

Just playing devils advocate here, as overall i think the AE is a good idea. But it would be foolish to not consider all possible outcomes.

Even with this said, i think the AE is a success in many ways and bodes well for the future value of this coin.

Obviously that's a possiblity and I think everybody is aware of that. I do however agree that overall the listing was the right choice.

I think we can also take a very important note here. High value assets on a cryptos AE can have considerable influence on the cryptos price. I guess this was obvious to others but I only now noticed now how great it can be if you manage to put some high demand assets on your AE.

So beside getting merchants on board it will also be vital to convince start-ups and projects to sell their assets on the NEM AE instead of others. We'll have to think of features that set our AE apart from all the other ones. AEs are almost a commong thing now so it'll be important to create not "just another AE".
hero member
Activity: 697
Merit: 500
it's a disappointing experience to see that against all expectations of thread members, the price of nemstakes (AE) is steadily decreasing.
I was one of the first buyers and now I have to suffer from my greed.

Volume continues to go up.  It appears it's people dumping their stakes.  This was vaguely expected, considering what people reserved their stakes for, but they'll be gone a lot quicker than say a hypothetical whale who controls a large percentage of a coin and is dumping it no matter what damage it may bring.

It could be a whale buying them up. Even worse would be a whale buying it up purely to sabotage the coin.

Just playing devils advocate here, as overall i think the AE is a good idea. But it would be foolish to not consider all possible outcomes.

Even with this said, i think the AE is a success in many ways and bodes well for the future value of this coin.

At the moment price seems to hold, not so many stakes anymore at sell in 20 000 nxt level, just a couple.  So lets see!
hero member
Activity: 497
Merit: 501
it's a disappointing experience to see that against all expectations of thread members, the price of nemstakes (AE) is steadily decreasing.
I was one of the first buyers and now I have to suffer from my greed.

Volume continues to go up.  It appears it's people dumping their stakes.  This was vaguely expected, considering what people reserved their stakes for, but they'll be gone a lot quicker than say a hypothetical whale who controls a large percentage of a coin and is dumping it no matter what damage it may bring.

It could be a whale buying them up. Even worse would be a whale buying it up purely to sabotage the coin.

Just playing devils advocate here, as overall i think the AE is a good idea. But it would be foolish to not consider all possible outcomes.

Even with this said, i think the AE is a success in many ways and bodes well for the future value of this coin.
hero member
Activity: 980
Merit: 1001
If the price decline more. i will looking to buy another one  Cool

Ths AE thing is a great way to get rid of weak hands before the actual launch  Grin. Im laughing at these idiots selling at this low  Grin
Are they really idiots?

What if NXT doubles / triples in price the coming months? That's not unthinkable.
They already made a 10,000% ROI on their stake and then doubled / tripled that through Nxt. Not to shabby if you ask me.  Grin

And, it gives others an opportunity to buy an extra or new stake.

The ROI is actually fantastic. Put yourself in the position of people that invested in "just another alt" that have no idea about NEM. They see these prices and jump for joy.
Plus NXT has gained so much value in the last days that is was to be expected that prices for NEM stakes would go down.
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