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Topic: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread - page 91. (Read 661498 times)
May 23, 2014, 07:36:06 AM
May 23, 2014, 07:35:10 AM
How long do txs take to clear? Say I run a business and want to offer NEM, how long will it take to know that the NEM the customer used has cleared and is 100% mine?
May 23, 2014, 07:32:51 AM
utopianfuture, I haven't been around for a long time, hope you're all well.
what's the state of development?
what's the state of development?
Still doing POI tuning + integration. Closed Alpha this weekend and if it goes smoothly, there will be an ETA for an open Alpha soon.
May 23, 2014, 07:13:38 AM
We can promote NEM here by pledging to add SSL to ournem.com by the end of the year.
https://www.resetthenet.org/#add-yourself
ResetTheNet.org an initiative to promote and use Internet Privacy Tools on June, 5th 2014 and beyond.
"On June 5, the one year anniversary of the Snowden leaks, I will take strong steps to protect my freedom from mass surveillance. I expect the services I use to do the same."
"Don't ask for your privacy. Take it back."
https://www.resetthenet.org/
www.youtube.com/embed/qKk8MHFLNNE
http://resetthenet.tumblr.com/post/84331967485/the-privacy-pack
https://www.resetthenet.org/#add-yourself
ResetTheNet.org an initiative to promote and use Internet Privacy Tools on June, 5th 2014 and beyond.
"On June 5, the one year anniversary of the Snowden leaks, I will take strong steps to protect my freedom from mass surveillance. I expect the services I use to do the same."
"Don't ask for your privacy. Take it back."
https://www.resetthenet.org/
www.youtube.com/embed/qKk8MHFLNNE
http://resetthenet.tumblr.com/post/84331967485/the-privacy-pack
May 23, 2014, 06:41:04 AM
Quote from: patmast3r
Who said 2 hours ? I said a couple of hours. That can range from 2 to about 4 or 5 (i guess everyone has their own limits for "a couple").
It's also not like all the devs come together then code for a couple of hours and then nothing happens for a day. Spread over multiple timezones there is probably always somebody working on NEM so if you see it that way the devs are working 24/7.
Imho it's nobodys businees if the devs work 1 minute or 10 hours a day as long as they deliver.
It's also not like all the devs come together then code for a couple of hours and then nothing happens for a day. Spread over multiple timezones there is probably always somebody working on NEM so if you see it that way the devs are working 24/7.
Imho it's nobodys businees if the devs work 1 minute or 10 hours a day as long as they deliver.
Yes as long as they deliver, but if they don't deliver on time, questions like work hours and doubt will become more and more frequent. These things will pop up whether you like them or not, an open and public forum does not care what your moral compass is.
This is going to turn into more pages of useless dribble lol so i better stop here, cheers.
May 23, 2014, 06:20:59 AM
*removing those quotes for readability*
He brought up some admittedly bold ideas.
You were appearantly under the impression that all the devs quit their jobs, divorced their wives, put their kids up for adoption and stopped sleeping so they could work on NEM fulltime (yeah I'm exaggerating but that's what they'd have to do to have more than a couple of hours a day).
You tell me which one of those 2 sounds more delusional.
I was under the impression that members coded more than 2 hours a day but that was my mistake i just checked the NEM Development plan. I don't find that impossible with a full time job and i was under the impression that it was necessary to do so with your ETA claims. Its just hard for me to compute that a project with huge ambitions is matched with 2 hours a day of work per dev. I am also just getting frustrated with the alpha launch and i am just trying to point the finger at somebody.
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Who said 2 hours ? I said a couple of hours. That can range from 2 to about 4 or 5 (i guess everyone has their own limits for "a couple").
It's also not like all the devs come together then code for a couple of hours and then nothing happens for a day. Spread over multiple timezones there is probably always somebody working on NEM so if you see it that way the devs are working 24/7.
Imho it's nobodys businees if the devs work 1 minute or 10 hours a day as long as they deliver.
May 23, 2014, 05:52:42 AM
I am impressed with the management of stakeholding and egalitariasm so far.
Just a question....how can NEM deliver to the standard of NXT or greater if the Development team works
only part time? Nxt team has been working for months 24/7 developing the asset exchange and suchlike and
I believe with very talented individuals.
Is the NEM team better quality and more efficient?
Just a question....how can NEM deliver to the standard of NXT or greater if the Development team works
only part time? Nxt team has been working for months 24/7 developing the asset exchange and suchlike and
I believe with very talented individuals.
Is the NEM team better quality and more efficient?
quality != time until completion
Sorry but that's a weak answer Pat....
I don't know what universe you live in but a couple hours a day is nothing. Especially something that is supposed to change the world. This is starting to seem more like a side project with a nice revenue model than a desire to truly change the world for the better.
I am disappoint.
and you are also delusional it seems.
Just get my token on the asset exchange and I'll be happy
oh btw you want to talk about delusional, your mate makoto wrote this: https://trello.com/c/6ERRDAZy/45-nem-cooperative-village
He brought up some admittedly bold ideas.
You were appearantly under the impression that all the devs quit their jobs, divorced their wives, put their kids up for adoption and stopped sleeping so they could work on NEM fulltime (yeah I'm exaggerating but that's what they'd have to do to have more than a couple of hours a day).
You tell me which one of those 2 sounds more delusional.
May 23, 2014, 05:35:21 AM
I am impressed with the management of stakeholding and egalitariasm so far.
Just a question....how can NEM deliver to the standard of NXT or greater if the Development team works
only part time? Nxt team has been working for months 24/7 developing the asset exchange and suchlike and
I believe with very talented individuals.
Is the NEM team better quality and more efficient?
Just a question....how can NEM deliver to the standard of NXT or greater if the Development team works
only part time? Nxt team has been working for months 24/7 developing the asset exchange and suchlike and
I believe with very talented individuals.
Is the NEM team better quality and more efficient?
quality != time until completion
Sorry but that's a weak answer Pat....
I don't know what universe you live in but a couple hours a day is nothing. Especially something that is supposed to change the world. This is starting to seem more like a side project with a nice revenue model than a desire to truly change the world for the better.
I am disappoint.
and you are also delusional it seems.
Just get my token on the asset exchange and I'll be happy
oh btw you want to talk about delusional, your mate makoto wrote this: https://trello.com/c/6ERRDAZy/45-nem-cooperative-village
May 23, 2014, 05:34:46 AM
Our dev team works a couple of hours a day even on weekends.
I don't know what universe you live in but a couple hours a day is nothing. Especially something that is supposed to change the world. This is starting to seem more like a side project with a nice revenue model than a desire to truly change the world for the better.
I am disappoint.
The best things in world (certainly in cryptoworld too) weren't made in one day.
I'am waiting happy. Even it'll be lauched next year. I paid 0,25 BTC on my stake and this is my best ivestment so far.
See you around!
im not sure how! its a forum full of the best coders in the world where the accounts can be worth money!... it shouldnt be so surprising that it can be hacked! i dont know how cos im not a coder! but iv seen allot of people talking about there accounts getting hacked.. a dev from nxt had his hacked not long ago but he got it back!
Since it seems that most of the "hacks" happened recently it could be connected to the heartbleed bug allthough there was a big warning on the top of the page.
May 23, 2014, 05:24:05 AM
I am impressed with the management of stakeholding and egalitariasm so far.
Just a question....how can NEM deliver to the standard of NXT or greater if the Development team works
only part time? Nxt team has been working for months 24/7 developing the asset exchange and suchlike and
I believe with very talented individuals.
Is the NEM team better quality and more efficient?
Just a question....how can NEM deliver to the standard of NXT or greater if the Development team works
only part time? Nxt team has been working for months 24/7 developing the asset exchange and suchlike and
I believe with very talented individuals.
Is the NEM team better quality and more efficient?
quality != time until completion
Sorry but that's a weak answer Pat....
I don't know what universe you live in but a couple hours a day is nothing. Especially something that is supposed to change the world. This is starting to seem more like a side project with a nice revenue model than a desire to truly change the world for the better.
I am disappoint.
and you are also delusional it seems.
May 23, 2014, 04:58:36 AM
Our dev team works a couple of hours a day even on weekends.
I don't know what universe you live in but a couple hours a day is nothing. Especially something that is supposed to change the world. This is starting to seem more like a side project with a nice revenue model than a desire to truly change the world for the better.
I am disappoint.
The best things in world (certainly in cryptoworld too) weren't made in one day.
I'am waiting happy. Even it'll be lauched next year. I paid 0,25 BTC on my stake and this is my best ivestment so far.
See you around!
May 23, 2014, 04:56:03 AM
What do I do to claim my stake? May I obtain it yet?
read this https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/nem-nem-new-economy-movement-no-envy-movement-updatesdiscussion-thread-426303 from "how it works" onwards first.
then go here and read the instructions from utopian https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/nem-nemstake-tokens-are-listed-on-nxt-asset-exchange-616467
in short... create nxt account with very strong password(40 chars+), send utopian a pm with your nxt account number saying you want your stake sent to the nxt AE.
if you dont wish to use nxt you may use xcp/wait until launch of nem!
read the instructions first though in the links above so nothing goes wrong.
Just wanted to say thanks to kodtycoon. You have turned out to be a very active and effective member to the NEM community. I have kicked around starting my own coin (absolutely nothing serious yet), if I do I'll definitely be hitting you up for extra ideas. I would have liked to see you follow through with the multi-pool, though I know there wasn't a whole lot of support, it would have helped NEM even more.
Good to see this one caught on!! Keep em coming!!
Thanks again!!
thank you for your kind words!
i would be more then happy to help you with your coin and contribute any ideas i have. its all i really can do seeing as im not a dev. i would have liked to go through with it also, only finding a dev, and getting the nem devs to agree proved more difficult then i though.. and it was very 50 50 in terms of agreement so i decided not to put too many backs up and let it go.. on the bright side, sharecoin used the idea of launching their multipool mining pre-coin launch and they managed to mine 10btc before the coin launched. so i think it really could have worked for nem. imagine 3 months of mining from allot more miners... would have been allot of buying power!im very impressed with the support from the community for this. i urge people to claim their stakes through nxt AE even if you dont want to trade.. its more secure then your bitcointalk account. for this reason alone, i think everyone should do it. one of the nxt devs had his btt account hacked and stolen not long ago. luckily he managed to get it back though. not everyone will be that lucky. our accounts will become targets once the stakes are worth more. dont think that it wont happen. i suspect many people will start claiming(perhaps some falsely) their accounts were stolen. mark my words!
btt account hacked and stolen ??
How that was made? Isn't bitcointalk.org secured for brute force attacks?
Yup, its actually more common then you would expect! So even just for peice of mind, you should use nxt to hold your stake. Once rhey are worth +1-2btc there guna be a target for hackers.
HOW the hacking was made?
Here is lot of crypto people of all cryptocurrencies. I think they would have made this site secure.
May 23, 2014, 04:52:42 AM
I am impressed with the management of stakeholding and egalitariasm so far.
Just a question....how can NEM deliver to the standard of NXT or greater if the Development team works
only part time? Nxt team has been working for months 24/7 developing the asset exchange and suchlike and
I believe with very talented individuals.
Is the NEM team better quality and more efficient?
Just a question....how can NEM deliver to the standard of NXT or greater if the Development team works
only part time? Nxt team has been working for months 24/7 developing the asset exchange and suchlike and
I believe with very talented individuals.
Is the NEM team better quality and more efficient?
quality != time until completion
Sorry but that's a weak answer Pat....
I don't know what universe you live in but a couple hours a day is nothing. Especially something that is supposed to change the world. This is starting to seem more like a side project with a nice revenue model than a desire to truly change the world for the better.
I am disappoint.
May 23, 2014, 04:25:24 AM
What do I do to claim my stake? May I obtain it yet?
read this https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/nem-nem-new-economy-movement-no-envy-movement-updatesdiscussion-thread-426303 from "how it works" onwards first.
then go here and read the instructions from utopian https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/nem-nemstake-tokens-are-listed-on-nxt-asset-exchange-616467
in short... create nxt account with very strong password(40 chars+), send utopian a pm with your nxt account number saying you want your stake sent to the nxt AE.
if you dont wish to use nxt you may use xcp/wait until launch of nem!
read the instructions first though in the links above so nothing goes wrong.
thanks!
May 23, 2014, 03:36:37 AM
I am impressed with the management of stakeholding and egalitariasm so far.
Just a question....how can NEM deliver to the standard of NXT or greater if the Development team works
only part time? Nxt team has been working for months 24/7 developing the asset exchange and suchlike and
I believe with very talented individuals.
Is the NEM team better quality and more efficient?
Just a question....how can NEM deliver to the standard of NXT or greater if the Development team works
only part time? Nxt team has been working for months 24/7 developing the asset exchange and suchlike and
I believe with very talented individuals.
Is the NEM team better quality and more efficient?
quality != time until completion
Sorry but that's a weak answer Pat....
Why ?
Quality is not related to how much people work in a given amount of time only the time it takes to comple things is.
Say NXT really does work 24/7 and delivers 100% quality.
Now if NEM only works 20/7 the result can still be 100% quality it'll just take a little longer.
Therefore: quality != time until completion
I do want to say that I doubt that the NXT devs are working much harder than our dev team. Our dev team works a couple of hours a day even on weekends. The only way the NXT devs can work more is if they either have no commitments in their lifes or do not need to sleep for months.
On behalf of all stakeholders we demand that the Nem team has no other commitments in their lives
and that they sleep less.
Now just tell me they are better and more efficient than the NXT guys and I'll be happy.......
May 23, 2014, 03:31:24 AM
What do I do to claim my stake? May I obtain it yet?
read this https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/nem-nem-new-economy-movement-no-envy-movement-updatesdiscussion-thread-426303 from "how it works" onwards first.
then go here and read the instructions from utopian https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/nem-nemstake-tokens-are-listed-on-nxt-asset-exchange-616467
in short... create nxt account with very strong password(40 chars+), send utopian a pm with your nxt account number saying you want your stake sent to the nxt AE.
if you dont wish to use nxt you may use xcp/wait until launch of nem!
read the instructions first though in the links above so nothing goes wrong.
Just wanted to say thanks to kodtycoon. You have turned out to be a very active and effective member to the NEM community. I have kicked around starting my own coin (absolutely nothing serious yet), if I do I'll definitely be hitting you up for extra ideas. I would have liked to see you follow through with the multi-pool, though I know there wasn't a whole lot of support, it would have helped NEM even more.
Good to see this one caught on!! Keep em coming!!
Thanks again!!
thank you for your kind words!
i would be more then happy to help you with your coin and contribute any ideas i have. its all i really can do seeing as im not a dev. i would have liked to go through with it also, only finding a dev, and getting the nem devs to agree proved more difficult then i though.. and it was very 50 50 in terms of agreement so i decided not to put too many backs up and let it go.. on the bright side, sharecoin used the idea of launching their multipool mining pre-coin launch and they managed to mine 10btc before the coin launched. so i think it really could have worked for nem. imagine 3 months of mining from allot more miners... would have been allot of buying power!im very impressed with the support from the community for this. i urge people to claim their stakes through nxt AE even if you dont want to trade.. its more secure then your bitcointalk account. for this reason alone, i think everyone should do it. one of the nxt devs had his btt account hacked and stolen not long ago. luckily he managed to get it back though. not everyone will be that lucky. our accounts will become targets once the stakes are worth more. dont think that it wont happen. i suspect many people will start claiming(perhaps some falsely) their accounts were stolen. mark my words!
btt account hacked and stolen ??
How that was made? Isn't bitcointalk.org secured for brute force attacks?
May 23, 2014, 03:20:45 AM
I am impressed with the management of stakeholding and egalitariasm so far.
Just a question....how can NEM deliver to the standard of NXT or greater if the Development team works
only part time? Nxt team has been working for months 24/7 developing the asset exchange and suchlike and
I believe with very talented individuals.
Is the NEM team better quality and more efficient?
Just a question....how can NEM deliver to the standard of NXT or greater if the Development team works
only part time? Nxt team has been working for months 24/7 developing the asset exchange and suchlike and
I believe with very talented individuals.
Is the NEM team better quality and more efficient?
quality != time until completion
Sorry but that's a weak answer Pat....
Why ?
Quality is not related to how much people work in a given amount of time only the time it takes to comple things is.
Say NXT really does work 24/7 and delivers 100% quality.
Now if NEM only works 20/7 the result can still be 100% quality it'll just take a little longer.
Therefore: quality != time until completion
I do want to say that I doubt that the NXT devs are working much harder than our dev team. Our dev team works a couple of hours a day even on weekends. The only way the NXT devs can work more is if they either have no commitments in their lifes or do not need to sleep for months.
May 23, 2014, 03:06:30 AM
I am impressed with the management of stakeholding and egalitariasm so far.
Just a question....how can NEM deliver to the standard of NXT or greater if the Development team works
only part time? Nxt team has been working for months 24/7 developing the asset exchange and suchlike and
I believe with very talented individuals.
Is the NEM team better quality and more efficient?
Just a question....how can NEM deliver to the standard of NXT or greater if the Development team works
only part time? Nxt team has been working for months 24/7 developing the asset exchange and suchlike and
I believe with very talented individuals.
Is the NEM team better quality and more efficient?
quality != time until completion
Sorry but that's a weak answer Pat....
May 23, 2014, 02:57:55 AM
I am impressed with the management of stakeholding and egalitariasm so far.
Just a question....how can NEM deliver to the standard of NXT or greater if the Development team works
only part time? Nxt team has been working for months 24/7 developing the asset exchange and suchlike and
I believe with very talented individuals.
Is the NEM team better quality and more efficient?
Just a question....how can NEM deliver to the standard of NXT or greater if the Development team works
only part time? Nxt team has been working for months 24/7 developing the asset exchange and suchlike and
I believe with very talented individuals.
Is the NEM team better quality and more efficient?
quality != time until completion
May 23, 2014, 02:54:19 AM
I am impressed with the management of stakeholding and egalitariasm so far.
Just a question....how can NEM deliver to the standard of NXT or greater if the Development team works
only part time? Nxt team has been working for months 24/7 developing the asset exchange and suchlike and
I believe with very talented individuals.
Is the NEM team better quality and more efficient?
Just a question....how can NEM deliver to the standard of NXT or greater if the Development team works
only part time? Nxt team has been working for months 24/7 developing the asset exchange and suchlike and
I believe with very talented individuals.
Is the NEM team better quality and more efficient?
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