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Topic: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread - page 88. (Read 661498 times)

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Hi,

I started to read posts as I was interested in this project but recently I have a feeling that you guys started doing lot of noise without actually doing any progress. Additionally behind this idea of having 'fair distribution' you are trying to get a lot of money. Let me explain my concerns:

1. You started this project with idea of distribute it via individual small payment/donations share it proportionally which was fair in my opinion. Now checking investors list - you have approx 2800 users which gave you ~350 NXT in average which is more or less 1 million NXT (or ~70 BC)
2. You stated that you as developers will get 10 % of NEMs. 400 million NEMs
3. Now you introduced additional stake distribution of 1 billion NEMs via NXT AE. Lets assume an average price will be 0.01 NXT for 1 NEMs (not highest price on AE now) so you will get additional 10 million NXT (700 BTC)

Aren't you too greedy for almost copy-paste coin? What is the progress in development except more and more ideas of 'distribution'? If you believe in NEM project why are you selling NEMs before launch for BTC and NXT?

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c 30 мecтa Nem дoлжeн бyдeт пepeпpыгнyть 22 или 23 пoзиции и выpacти дo 7 или 8 мecтa. Изнaчaльнo oн бyдeт нa 30 мecтe ecли вы yмныe и тopги нaчнётe c тex ypoвнeй oткyдa я вaм cкaзaл, этo нaчaльнaя цeнa мoнeты в 0.0000005 BTC.

Mнoгиe кoнeчнo нe xoтят изнaчaльнo пpoдaвaть зa тaкyю низкyю cтoимocть cвoи мoнeты, нo я жe нe пpизывaю пpoдaвaть вcю cвoю дoлю и cpaзy. Кopмитe pынoк ввepx. Пpoдaвaйтe пo чyть-чyть cнизy ввepx paccтaвляя cвoи opдepa кoгдa нaчнyтcя пepвыe тopги.

Booбщe, кaк инcтpyкцию к дeйcтвия я пpeдлaгaю cдeлaть cлeдyющee :

Кoгдa нaчнyтcя тopги нa пepвыx биpжax, нyжнo цeнy cтaвить cpaзy 0.0000005 BTC и мизepнoe кoличecтвo мoнeт в этoм opдepe. Haпpимep 10000 Nem, т. e. вcнгo лишь 1% oт вaшeй дoли вы cкapмливaeтe pынкy, чтoбы oн шёл в pocт. И вoт кoгдa вы пocтaвитe cвoй пepвый opдep, нaчинaя c цeны 0.0000005 BTC, ктo-тo cвepxy пocтaвит yжe 0.00000055 BTC. И тaким oбpaзoм pынoк c caмыx низoв нaчнёт пoднимaтьcя и пpи этoм вaм нe пpидётcя пpoдaвaть 100% cpaзy oт cвoиx дoлeй.

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from the 30th place of Nem will have to jump over 22 or 23 positions and grow to 7 or the 8th places. Initially it will be on the 30th place if you clever and you will begin the auction with those levels from where I to you told, it is the initial price of a coin in 0.0000005 BTC.

Many certainly don't want to sell initially for such low cost the coins, but I don't urge to sell all the share and at once. You feed the market up. Sell on slightly from below up placing the warrants when the first auction will begin.

In general, as the instruction to action I suggest to make the following:

When the auction at the first exchanges will begin, it is necessary to put the price at once 0.0000005 BTC and scanty quantity of coins in this warrant. For example 10000 Nem, i.e. вcнгo you feed only 1% of your share to the market that it went to growth. And here when you will put the first warrant, since the price 0.0000005 BTC, someone from above will put already 0.00000055 BTC. And thus the market from the bottoms will start rising and thus you shouldn't sell 100% at once from the shares.
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T. e. ecли мы являeмcя peaлиcтaми, a нe витaeм гдe-тo тaм в oблaкax, мы дoлжны пoнимaть o тoм, чтo ecть кoнeчнaя цeль y любoгo pocтa. И цeль этa, кaк я yжe oгoвopил вышe, являeтcя ypoвeнь 40000 - 60000 BTC. Этo ceдьмaя или вocьмaя cтpoчкa пo кaпитaлизaции.

Taк вoт, чeм вышe изнaчaльнoe бyдeт знaчeниe нa пepвыx тopгax, тeм мeньшe нa этoм cмoгyт зapaбoтaть тe, ктo бyдyт мoнeтy пoкyпaть.

Ecли иcxoдить oт нaчaльнoй цeны в 0.00000050 BTC, и плaвнo двигaтьcя к 0.00001 BTC - 0.000015 BTC, тoт, ктo пoкyпaeт мoнeтy, пoлyчит x20 - x30 yмнoжeниe cвoeгo влoжeннoгo. B oбщeм кoнeчнaя цeль Nem бyдeт кaк paз вoт тaкaя цeнa зa oднy мoнeтy : 0.00001 BTC - 0.000015 BTC. Этo ceдьмoe или вocьмoe мecтo в peйтингe кaпитaлизaции кpиптo мoнeт.

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I.e. if we are realists, instead of we go woolgathering somewhere there, we have to understand that there is an ultimate goal at any growth. And this purpose as I already stipulated above, is level 40000 - 60000 BTC. It is the seventh or eighth line on capitalization.

And so, the initial value at the first auction will be higher, the less on it those who a coin will buy will be able to earn.

If to proceed from the initial price in 0.00000050 BTC, and smoothly to move to 0.00001 BTC - 0.000015 BTC, the one who buys a coin, will receive x20 - x30 multiplication enclosed. Generally the ultimate goal of Nem will be just here such price for one coin: 0.00001 BTC - 0.000015 BTC. This seventh or eighth place in a rating of capitalization of crypto coins.
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1 Nem price will 0.00000050 - 0.00000100 BTC, because : http://mmgp.ru/showthread.php?p=6694769#post6694769

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Generally, the price of Nem initially has to be low. With the gradual smooth growth as it BitCoin had everything. Because if at once the price jumps up to high levels - we will see an example as AuroraCoin rose and then fell in price on so many that now became nobody the necessary coin.

The presumable price of one coin of Nem on start I consider fair at the level of 50 Satoshi. It somewhere each share (1000000 coins) will cost about 300 USD. And here the first auction will begin with this mark at the exchanges where there will be in the beginning auction on Nem.

Why it is necessary that there was initially low price of a coin? That, thanks to skillful marketing and a huge number of the people supporting a coin, it started going up in price from the bottoms. Usually, I often see in other coins of charge. Charges go that the high price of a coin and all cryptocommunity is initially exposed at once starts speaking: Here clever men, took at once put the high price. So it isn't fair! And if in details over it it isn't fair to think, it is possible to understand why it isn't fair. Because when the coin starts bargaining with the bottoms, and lower than a price any more won't be, here even the child the school student starts understanding that it is necessary to buy it. Thus through the low price everyone the chance to buy a perspective coin in the future which compare to Tesla Motors will drop out.

Should be much higher than this.

Than there will be above an initial price Nem subjects smaller those who it will want to buy will earn on it. Growth limit to all of us is known, any coin isn't capable to jump today over such coins as LiteCoin and BitCoin. Therefore the initial price is higher, the less on a coin will be growth proceeding from an ultimate goal of Nem on capitalization in 40000 - 60000 BTC.
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1 Nem price will 0.00000050 - 0.00000100 BTC, because : http://mmgp.ru/showthread.php?p=6694769#post6694769

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Generally, the price of Nem initially has to be low. With the gradual smooth growth as it BitCoin had everything. Because if at once the price jumps up to high levels - we will see an example as AuroraCoin rose and then fell in price on so many that now became nobody the necessary coin.

The presumable price of one coin of Nem on start I consider fair at the level of 50 Satoshi. It somewhere each share (1000000 coins) will cost about 300 USD. And here the first auction will begin with this mark at the exchanges where there will be in the beginning auction on Nem.

Why it is necessary that there was initially low price of a coin? That, thanks to skillful marketing and a huge number of the people supporting a coin, it started going up in price from the bottoms. Usually, I often see in other coins of charge. Charges go that the high price of a coin and all cryptocommunity is initially exposed at once starts speaking: Here clever men, took at once put the high price. So it isn't fair! And if in details over it it isn't fair to think, it is possible to understand why it isn't fair. Because when the coin starts bargaining with the bottoms, and lower than a price any more won't be, here even the child the school student starts understanding that it is necessary to buy it. Thus through the low price everyone the chance to buy a perspective coin in the future which compare to Tesla Motors will drop out.

Should be much higher than this.
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hero member
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1 Nem price will 0.00000050 - 0.00000100 BTC, because : http://mmgp.ru/showthread.php?p=6694769#post6694769

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Generally, the price of Nem initially has to be low. With the gradual smooth growth as it BitCoin had everything. Because if at once the price jumps up to high levels - we will see an example as AuroraCoin rose and then fell in price on so many that now became nobody the necessary coin.

The presumable price of one coin of Nem on start I consider fair at the level of 50 Satoshi. It somewhere each share (1000000 coins) will cost about 300 USD. And here the first auction will begin with this mark at the exchanges where there will be in the beginning auction on Nem.

Why it is necessary that there was initially low price of a coin? That, thanks to skillful marketing and a huge number of the people supporting a coin, it started going up in price from the bottoms. Usually, I often see in other coins of charge. Charges go that the high price of a coin and all cryptocommunity is initially exposed at once starts speaking: Here clever men, took at once put the high price. So it isn't fair! And if in details over it it isn't fair to think, it is possible to understand why it isn't fair. Because when the coin starts bargaining with the bottoms, and lower than a price any more won't be, here even the child the school student starts understanding that it is necessary to buy it. Thus through the low price everyone the chance to buy a perspective coin in the future which compare to Tesla Motors will drop out.
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Has anyone got a rough idea when NEM will launch yet?

No idea. . Closed alpha has not yet begin. .
newbie
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Has anyone got a rough idea when NEM will launch yet?
hero member
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If this is 5 BTC to 10 BTC, then how do I afford to buy more stakes?   Tongue  My personal budget was like $500 per stake.   Cheesy
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Lol, the bidder NXT-ZWW7-PSXW-89TR-AA67Z has over 9m NXT which is worth > 700BTC o.O

this user is Jason (jf777) and he is a shark  Wink
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Lol, the bidder NXT-ZWW7-PSXW-89TR-AA67Z has over 9m NXT which is worth > 700BTC o.O

what bud has he put in?
NXT-ZWW7-PSXW-89TR-AA67Z   40   10'000   400'000

Now we should move the talk about AE to the appropriate thread as aked by UtopianFuture Wink

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/nem-nemstake-tokens-are-listed-on-nxt-asset-exchange-616467
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Lol, the bidder NXT-ZWW7-PSXW-89TR-AA67Z has over 9m NXT which is worth > 700BTC o.O
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I would not even sell below 10 BTC!

Also have no tokens and I'm waiting on a stock exchange there are more BTC
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Hi everyone, as planned we will be issuing 1000 tokens in Nxt asset exchange. The tokens have been created as follow:

ASSET NAME : NEMstake

ACCOUNT : NXT-J62B-CNAR-34YW-4RCFN

ASSET ID : 12465186738101000735

ISSUING TIME: 5/25/2014 12.00 GMT or 7.00 A.M EST

I would write a NEM buying guide and put it in the front page and our website so that newcomers now have the opportunity to buy some NEM pre-launch. Another option for newcomers if you don't want to bother with Nxt asset exchange is to wait for our NEM public auction that will be held in the Bitcoin blockchain later on.

Please restrict the discussion of NEMtoken price to the asset exchange thread here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/nem-nemstake-tokens-are-listed-on-nxt-asset-exchange-616467 since we will try to keep this thread focused on NEM updates and feature discussion.

Hi,

what means Quantity?

Example on the Asset Exchange:


Sell NEMstake for NXT
Buy Orders (2)
Account    Quantity    Price    Total
NXT-ZQYF-QEG9-NZXD-FP92N   1   15'000   15'000
NXT-ZWW7-PSXW-89TR-AA67Z   40   10'000   400'000

Is 1 quanity one complete stake or 1/10 of a stake???


1 means 1 complete stake (1 million Nem). 0.1 would mean 1/10 million

Since the tokens are not distributed yet, of course there are no sellers

I hope no one is selling under 5 BTC Wink






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Hi everyone, as planned we will be issuing 1000 tokens in Nxt asset exchange. The tokens have been created as follow:

ASSET NAME : NEMstake

ACCOUNT : NXT-J62B-CNAR-34YW-4RCFN

ASSET ID : 12465186738101000735

ISSUING TIME: 5/25/2014 12.00 GMT or 7.00 A.M EST

I would write a NEM buying guide and put it in the front page and our website so that newcomers now have the opportunity to buy some NEM pre-launch. Another option for newcomers if you don't want to bother with Nxt asset exchange is to wait for our NEM public auction that will be held in the Bitcoin blockchain later on.

Please restrict the discussion of NEMtoken price to the asset exchange thread here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/nem-nemstake-tokens-are-listed-on-nxt-asset-exchange-616467 since we will try to keep this thread focused on NEM updates and feature discussion.

Hi,

what means Quantity?

Example on the Asset Exchange:


Sell NEMstake for NXT
Buy Orders (2)
Account    Quantity    Price    Total
NXT-ZQYF-QEG9-NZXD-FP92N   1   15'000   15'000
NXT-ZWW7-PSXW-89TR-AA67Z   40   10'000   400'000

Is 1 quanity one complete stake or 1/10 of a stake???
sr. member
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Hi everyone, as planned we will be issuing 1000 tokens in Nxt asset exchange. The tokens have been created as follow:

ASSET NAME : NEMstake

ACCOUNT : NXT-J62B-CNAR-34YW-4RCFN

ASSET ID : 12465186738101000735

ISSUING TIME: 5/25/2014 12.00 GMT or 7.00 A.M EST

I would write a NEM buying guide and put it in the front page and our website so that newcomers now have the opportunity to buy some NEM pre-launch. Another option for newcomers if you don't want to bother with Nxt asset exchange is to wait for our NEM public auction that will be held in the Bitcoin blockchain later on.

Please restrict the discussion of NEMtoken price to the asset exchange thread here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/nem-nemstake-tokens-are-listed-on-nxt-asset-exchange-616467 since we will try to keep this thread focused on NEM updates and feature discussion.
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Look at DarkCoin? O_O

Can we made too anonymous transactions in Nem and anonymous blockchain how made in DarkCoin?

Not in alpha or in the official launch. We will see how DarkCoin does in a longer time frame and learn from the experience. I remember a while ago everyone was crazy about Aurora coin and numerous suggestions have been made about giving NEM free for a certain country/ city. Look at where the Aurora coin is now ?

I am not saying Darkcoin will be a second Aurora but we can't not say Darkcoin will not be a fad, neither. So we will see how it goes later on. But imho, it is relatively easier for NEM to take in new tech and features than for other coins to take in NEM's features.

@xtester thanks for the write-up. Would take me sometimes to digest everything and respond Smiley



I too so think that DarkCoin waits destiny of AuroraCoin. Those who quickly fly up up, they also quickly and promptly fall then. We have to accept it as valuable experience and grow then smoothly, since bottoms. Because any fast breakthrough up terminates then in crash and fiasco for a coin.

But nevertheless the anonymous technology on DarkCoin seems to me pretty interesting, it if to realize on algorithm of PoI, we will receive as a whole true anonymous decentralization.
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It's easy to conclude that Darkcoin is a 'pump of the month'.  When Bitcoin enters a stagnation period then money seems to coincidentally pile up on a low capitalization coin and sends it, temporarily, into the stratosphere.

Here are past examples

Aurora
Mint Coin
Vert Coin
Black Coin

We'll have to wait and see if Darkcoin maintains its' capitalization (or goes higher), I'm thinking no.
sr. member
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Look at DarkCoin? O_O

Can we made too anonymous transactions in Nem and anonymous blockchain how made in DarkCoin?

Not in alpha or in the official launch. We will see how DarkCoin does in a longer time frame and learn from the experience. I remember a while ago everyone was crazy about Aurora coin and numerous suggestions have been made about giving NEM free for a certain country/ city. Look at where the Aurora coin is now ?

I am not saying Darkcoin will be a second Aurora but we can't not say Darkcoin will not be a fad, neither. So we will see how it goes later on. But imho, it is relatively easier for NEM to take in new tech and features than for other coins to take in NEM's features.

@xtester thanks for the write-up. Would take me sometimes to digest everything and respond Smiley

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