NEM (XEM) Official Thread - 100% New Code - Easy To Use APIs - page 1522.

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Quote from: makoto1337 on November 17, 2014, 07:55:24 AM

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guys lets vote patmast3r into this! Grin

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/2014-proof-of-honor-poh-awards-ended-unoffical-results-available-855130

No one on the face of the earth deserves this more than patmast3r! He should get a higher honor than Satoshi for all he has to put up with.

Well, modesty is obviously a virtue in these threads...

On a side note, makoto1337, have the silver coins you are selling for NEMstakes been shoved in peoples throats yet?

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https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9569560

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Quote from: Simakki on November 17, 2014, 07:00:44 AM

Doubling NXT does not mean doubling in BTC or fiat.

Exactly, but the advantage of the latter two compared to NXT is not obvious.
If you have to cover urgent expenses in fiat right now, sure nothing can beat fiat, but for purposes of mid-to-long term investment I can't single out one of those three as the champion. Only time will show.

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guys lets vote patmast3r into this! Grin

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/2014-proof-of-honor-poh-awards-ended-unoffical-results-available-855130

No one on the face of the earth deserves this more than patmast3r! He should get a higher honor than Satoshi for all he has to put up with.

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Quote from: lx001 on November 17, 2014, 07:03:31 AM

Quote from: TinEye on November 17, 2014, 06:33:10 AM

Who are these everyone? What prevents me from sending 0.1 NEMSatkes through multiple accounts and claiming a lot of silver coins?

as far as I could understand everyone in the genesis block will receive a silver coin token (0.1 nemstake=0.1 silver coin ((you can simply sell it or you will need another 0.9 silver coin tokens to get a coin), 1 nemstake=1 silver coin)

Yes, that is exactly right.

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Getting board... Is it possible to use a real account and start harvesting yet?

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https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2miytv/long_live_proofofwork_long_live_mining/

another stupid "PoW is the king" paper came out and vbuterin sort of put it to shame haha

read through the comments.. plenty of times I thought to myself "nem fixes that" lol especially in the last comment by 'sn811'.

I think everyone knows something truly revolutionary is going to come out of crypto soon. people just have to find out about nem I guess.. Roll Eyes

Their mining power is centralized - it wasn't in the early days because it was a new concept, there was no king(s) of the hill at that point, at least not by any large margin.

Mining is now an industry in and of itself. In some ways this is a good thing as such groups/companies now so invested into it also help to sustain Bitcoins value, but it's not good for new PoW coins as all it takes is a few big players to jump on the bandwagon and pump and dump it into oblivion - as they do, consistently, all the time. The little man cannot compete with that.

It's really hard to get an unbiased opinion on this subject, but this is genuinely what i think is the truth and it's what attracts me to projects like NEM, especially as NEM had a very low fee for the "IPO/Call to participation" which did not exclude anyone because of costs.

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Quote from: TinEye on November 17, 2014, 06:33:10 AM

Who are these everyone? What prevents me from sending 0.1 NEMSatkes through multiple accounts and claiming a lot of silver coins?

as far as I could understand everyone in the genesis block will receive a silver coin token (0.1 nemstake=0.1 silver coin ((you can simply sell it or you will need another 0.9 silver coin tokens to get a coin), 1 nemstake=1 silver coin)

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Quote from: TinEye on November 17, 2014, 06:37:05 AM

Quote from: Parano on November 16, 2014, 07:33:53 AM

Hello all,

I think this coin was known for its fair distribution, please see below from SAE exchange:

NXT-TAQ2-YY6U-LARP-HLLRA 27.5 40,000 1,100,000 ===============>> 27.5 NEM selling.

Someone is selling 27.5 stakes of NEM, if he is selling that now how many more he still hold? How can he has so many stakes, Can someone investigate how and who is this person, this is not fair distribution and if we see whales with 100 NEM stakes this will be like NXT where a few control all and the rest we just watch how the market is manipulate, please can we know also the stakes the NEM team hold. That this person hold 27.5 NEM is out of order specially when the release is very soon and I don't want to see just one person dumping 100NEM in one go

Buy at 20,000 NXT, sell at 40,000 NXT. Doubling the money in a month.

I feel the seller could have got a higher price, but I am not complaining Grin

Doubling NXT does not mean doubling in BTC or fiat.

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Quote from: Parano on November 16, 2014, 07:33:53 AM

Hello all,

I think this coin was known for its fair distribution, please see below from SAE exchange:

NXT-TAQ2-YY6U-LARP-HLLRA 27.5 40,000 1,100,000 ===============>> 27.5 NEM selling.

Someone is selling 27.5 stakes of NEM, if he is selling that now how many more he still hold? How can he has so many stakes, Can someone investigate how and who is this person, this is not fair distribution and if we see whales with 100 NEM stakes this will be like NXT where a few control all and the rest we just watch how the market is manipulate, please can we know also the stakes the NEM team hold. That this person hold 27.5 NEM is out of order specially when the release is very soon and I don't want to see just one person dumping 100NEM in one go

Buy at 20,000 NXT, sell at 40,000 NXT. Doubling the money in a month.

I feel the seller could have got a higher price, but I am not complaining Grin

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Quote from: makoto1337 on November 15, 2014, 08:29:46 PM

Quote from: gsxrl3oi on November 15, 2014, 02:15:33 PM

So How will we receive our NEM silver again? I lost track of that free silver for every stake holder postings.

When the NEM asset exchange is launched, everyone will get an asset redeemable for a silver coin (sounds like the old US silver certificates, so in a way this is a second, silver-backed digital currency that is fully fungible; in essence everyone becomes a stakeholder in both currencies).

Who are these everyone? What prevents me from sending 0.1 NEMSatkes through multiple accounts and claiming a lot of silver coins?

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Quote from: jabo38 on November 16, 2014, 11:05:51 PM

Quote from: microlovr on November 16, 2014, 03:53:21 PM

Hi,

Looks like I missed phase 1.

Tried to register my token in phase 2 using the guide and got this error...

"That token has not been registered in time. You will need to claim after launch"

Anyone know what I should do? I'll be honest, I've not really been following this very closely.

Any help greatly appreciated. Grin

Send a message to Pat. You have another chance to register later and claim most of your coins.

You need to claim after launch, a message to me is not necessary cuz there's nothing more to tell.

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mining is so 2012-2013

Quote from: gsxrl3oi on November 15, 2014, 01:11:23 PM

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We'll keep bumping this date to remind NEMsters the date.

REDEEM YOUR AE & BTT STAKES BEFORE NOVEMBER 22, 2014

CHEERS GUYS

Bump

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mining is so 2012-2013

Quote from: microlovr on November 16, 2014, 03:53:21 PM

Hi,

Looks like I missed phase 1.

Tried to register my token in phase 2 using the guide and got this error...

"That token has not been registered in time. You will need to claim after launch"

Anyone know what I should do? I'll be honest, I've not really been following this very closely.

Any help greatly appreciated. Grin

Send a message to Pat. You have another chance to register later and claim most of your coins.

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Step into a world!! A P2P world!

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Quote from: gimre on November 16, 2014, 11:32:33 AM

Quote from: jkoil on November 16, 2014, 09:48:28 AM

When we created the Real account data for the redemption,
then was shown the pub and private key.
After the launch we I will use that private key for harvesting with ~~our~~ my actual account, right or wrong?

account to which YOU have private key, will be in NEMESIS block and will contain your stake.

corrected the subject above there ...
Can I see somewhere, what is the private key of my test NEM account?

I think you can download the Owon's Nem BETA NON REAL address generator and have your privite key, for a new ACC.

Code:

https://github.com/owon/nemaddress

I think, for now, there is no another way to do that. Donload the .zip, extract it and run the .html file and be happy!

Attention: This is not Real Nem Address generator. This is TEST Nem Address Generator And Im not sure if it still works.

good luck

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Quote from: jkoil on November 16, 2014, 05:32:31 PM

Quote from: Simakki on November 16, 2014, 05:23:29 PM

Just bought 0.1 stake

I suggest that for everyone Cool

How much you paid for it?
How many stakes you have now?

I have just 2.2 stakes at the moment. I paid 3900nxt for last the 0.1 and i strongly believe that 100k or 200k of NEM gonna be valued way more than that in 2015.

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Quote from: 5000Bitcoins on November 16, 2014, 12:55:25 PM

People have been trying the whole equality approach to economics for quite some time.. it's a beautiful thought but I believe it just doesn't work with how humans behave

Equality of outcome cannot be realized as everyone has different abilities, etc. Equality of opportunity is absolutely essential, though.

Through NEM, we can give everyone an equal opportunity in an economy.

Check out the plans for a manager-less community fund: https://forum.nemcoin.com/index.php?topic=2686.msg9646#msg9646

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Nxt NEM

Quote from: Simakki on November 16, 2014, 05:23:29 PM

Just bought 0.1 stake

I suggest that for everyone Cool

How much you paid for it?
How many stakes you have now?

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Just bought 0.1 stake

I suggest that for everyone Cool

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Nxt NEM

Quote from: Thingamajig on November 16, 2014, 03:32:12 PM

Quote from: jkoil on November 16, 2014, 02:43:13 PM

Quote from: Thingamajig on November 16, 2014, 01:06:23 PM

Quote from: 5000Bitcoins on November 16, 2014, 12:55:25 PM

People have been trying the whole equality approach to economics for quite some time.. it's a beautiful thought but I believe it just doesn't work with how humans behave

You're right, and i think equality does the opposite of what wealth does - think about it. If everyone had an equal share of something, making them all equally wealthy, they cease to be wealthy - anything considered valuable will be something everyone else lacks. It is very much like communism in a way - lovely on paper, but in practice, it doesn't work because it directly conflicts with the nature of markets, wealth and even human nature, it's why i think such countries that adopt this approach tend to turn totalitarian; because it can't keep human will in check, and it refuses to accommodate to it - this is wrong, markets are there for us, to tailor to us. NOT the other way around.

I think equality on an economic scale just will not work, ever, period. However, in NEM's case it was equality in opportunity - everyone getting a fair chance to invest within acceptable, obtainable means. The initial "Call to participation" did a very good job of this, even after we had Nemstake on the AE. This is what the equality in NEM is about (At least, this is what it appears to me).

If the few implementations of communism have failed, it does not prove that the idea is totally wrong.
Currently one of the biggest problems, or the cause to those, is inequality.

True. In fact i recall seeing a documentary of an individual living on a remote island with islanders who basically operated on similar principles of communism. What i took from this documentary was the reason why it worked (and it worked wonderfully) is because of trust - people in close knit communities don't have the issue of trust because they generally know eachother. They can trust not one group or individual is going to be selfish and directly (or indirectly) steal the wealth of the people. In a nutshell, it requires everyone think the same (Hence why if they don't, "force" is required to put them in check - totalitarianism).

When we're talking nations; well, thats a whole different ball game. People are more content to steal and mistreat strangers then they are those they know. After all you "Don't shit where you eat". It's why an elite get the wealth of the majority, and the majority live "equally" piss broke. It's communism gone bad, very bad - just as what we live in today is capitalism gone bad due to dishonest currencies.

For small communities, i think Communism works well, anything bigger - no. Out of the two evils, i'd choose the lesser one; Capitalism, with honest money.

maybe so ...
Tho many e.g. in modern Russia may want Soviet Union back
http://rt.com/politics/soviet-collapse-ussr-poll-059/
It may have been different world than modern capitalism, but still there was something right ...

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