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Topic: NEM (XEM) Official Thread - 100% New Code - Easy To Use APIs - page 1529. (Read 2985369 times)

legendary
Activity: 1596
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I am not Dorian Nakamoto.
Guys at the moment, looking at the AE, price of one NEM is 150 satoshis. When we start trading on exchanges, upon the launch, will we beat this price or the price will be lower?

I would like to hear opinions since I am thinking should I buy a NEMStake now, or wait the launch. Please keep in mind that there will be a lot of people who will dump their stakes upon the launch. If the price will be 150 satoshis, this will be an easy 1,5 BTC for them. This will surely drive the price down and let's face it, there are people like that, who are just looking for the easy money, moreover since they invested hardly nothing. There are many coins that were more expensive on IPO than after launch. Also I think that price drop is inevitable, BTSX dropped over 50% from the launch price before it started going up.

Another thing in mind is that there are 4B NEMs to 1B NXT. This would put a price of 1 NEM to the 600 satoshis launch price comparing to NXT, since there are 4 times more coins. Anybody remembers the price of 1 NXT when it hit the exchenges upon the launch? Is this 600 satoshis to much for NEM to beat?

Feature wise, looking at NXT at the moment there is just coin sending, better distribution and POA algorithm that is making forging fairer. All other feats are just promises.

I am not trying to spread FUD, just trying to think in advance, invest, and hear other peoples' opinions.

Actually, it looks like we are going to launch with 8 billion or 8.88888 billion NEM.
pgb
full member
Activity: 212
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A little interest in NEM wouldve resulted in the Knowledge that redemption was needed before launch. It was announced a ton of times.

Too many pages to go thru, anyway why was that not stated in the email with the redemption key? I don't check up on here as much as I used to since I got my new job.

It wasn't stated in the email because the deadline hadn't been set when tokens were sent. Got a new job myself as well but I still have 5 minutes per day. The excuse is lame imho.
hero member
Activity: 519
Merit: 500
A little interest in NEM wouldve resulted in the Knowledge that redemption was needed before launch. It was announced a ton of times.

Too many pages to go thru, anyway why was that not stated in the email with the redemption key? I don't check up on here as much as I used to since I got my new job.
hero member
Activity: 834
Merit: 524
Nxt NEM
...
The main point for that problem was this:
jkoil:
"Here is guide for Phase1:Step3:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9082423
is that the same as Phase2 or  is it too late to proceed with Phase1:Step3 ?"

patmast3r:
"it's the same as phase 2. I suggest you completely forget that graphic."


So, I would expect that you direct your "erroneous" statements to other direction.



Dammit !!!!! I thought I was being ' erroneous' when I spelt it 'erronous' but I couldnt be arsed to check it.  Cheesy
Apart from that......I made my point.  Keep cool man.

No, you did not make any point. Obviously you do not understand or you are just trolling ..or even worse.
If you have 2 + 3 = 4, you can say that is not correct.
Same thing was with 'phases' and 'steps'.



Ok...the friendly humour didnt work

My point is this, you are a provocative dunderhead and you could probably argue with yourself to death in an empty room. What do you mean 'troll or worse' ?  Im sorry but the instruction you keep pointing out makes perfect sense to me. You are right to ask for help because you definately need it.


"humour " ?  
Your humour (an argumentation ends with: "I made my point.") is different from the humour I  have used to.


"provocative" ?
Nope, you are provocative ... you are claiming about other people's opinions! They have the right for their opinions - you cannot deny it.
You do not know what they think, but still you were saying that they "give a shit" for NEM and their critics is "bullshit". That is a total untrust for other people. In any workplace you would need to go to a discussion with your superiors.

You know trolls ... you are now making the same, when you continue keeping your "point" and not giving any respect to other's opinions.



"help" ?  - again you are underestimating and mocking.
There is not a question about help, but about definitions and their clarity:

When in the guide is Phase1: Step3: substeps 1...4  and
   clearly the last accomplished step has been Phase1: Step2:
   then the next step will be Phase1: Step3: substep1

Questions raised (Nov 3), when it was not anymore talked about Phase1: Step3:
but only Phase2.  
If that jump from unfinished Phase1 to Phase2 was very clear for you, then congrats.
But if it was not clear for some other people, you cannot deny their opinions.
(Even though someone had suspected that "hey, Phase2 is Phase1's Step3", he may not have dared to proceed, coz it has not been sure, what happens to his stake, if something goes wrong.)




legendary
Activity: 1218
Merit: 1004
Somebody is selling 32 stakes on 40 000
clearance sale


The account holder seems an interesting player.

He can plays with the price, if he will sell everything, the price will fall down.
hero member
Activity: 697
Merit: 500
Guys at the moment, looking at the AE, price of one NEM is 150 satoshis. When we start trading on exchanges, upon the launch, will we beat this price or the price will be lower?

I would like to hear opinions since I am thinking should I buy a NEMStake now, or wait the launch. Please keep in mind that there will be a lot of people who will dump their stakes upon the launch. If the price will be 150 satoshis, this will be an easy 1,5 BTC for them. This will surely drive the price down and let's face it, there are people like that, who are just looking for the easy money, moreover since they invested hardly nothing. There are many coins that were more expensive on IPO than after launch. Also I think that price drop is inevitable, BTSX dropped over 50% from the launch price before it started going up.

Another thing in mind is that there are 4B NEMs to 1B NXT. This would put a price of 1 NEM to the 600 satoshis launch price comparing to NXT, since there are 4 times more coins. Anybody remembers the price of 1 NXT when it hit the exchenges upon the launch? Is this 600 satoshis to much for NEM to beat?

Feature wise, looking at NXT at the moment there is just coin sending, better distribution and POA algorithm that is making forging fairer. All other feats are just promises.

I am not trying to spread FUD, just trying to think in advance, invest, and hear other peoples' opinions.

There are some fairly valid points here. Anyways, don't think about investing for too long, you still have about a week until the deadline. Would be interesting to hear an input of the others about this as well.

IMO dumpers had already over 4 months to dump their stakes and as far as i know, there will be more features at the launch. (Correct me if im wrong)

Yes, this is a partially valid point. I came to think about this as well. On the other side, it
came to my mind that not everybody wanted to mess with the NemStakes and the AE asset exchange, so to tell with NXT. It is much easier just to take coins and send them to the exchange for BTC. With NemStakes, people had to learn completely new system. Then again, I might be wrong.

That could be right, but it is kind of hard to believe that there be huge amount of dumpers after launch. I mean NXT AE was pretty easy to use if your motivation would be just quick profit.
Otherwise i tend to share little concern about the demand. Merely week to go before 22.11 and daily volume and price has been in decline and no buyin pressure at all. If this is this should be the next big thing, why members arent buying like crazy ? Dollar Price is almost for time cheaper than in june and even the NXT/NEM ratio is lower than in last weeks.
newbie
Activity: 38
Merit: 0
Guys at the moment, looking at the AE, price of one NEM is 150 satoshis. When we start trading on exchanges, upon the launch, will we beat this price or the price will be lower?

I would like to hear opinions since I am thinking should I buy a NEMStake now, or wait the launch. Please keep in mind that there will be a lot of people who will dump their stakes upon the launch. If the price will be 150 satoshis, this will be an easy 1,5 BTC for them. This will surely drive the price down and let's face it, there are people like that, who are just looking for the easy money, moreover since they invested hardly nothing. There are many coins that were more expensive on IPO than after launch. Also I think that price drop is inevitable, BTSX dropped over 50% from the launch price before it started going up.

Another thing in mind is that there are 4B NEMs to 1B NXT. This would put a price of 1 NEM to the 600 satoshis launch price comparing to NXT, since there are 4 times more coins. Anybody remembers the price of 1 NXT when it hit the exchenges upon the launch? Is this 600 satoshis to much for NEM to beat?

Feature wise, looking at NXT at the moment there is just coin sending, better distribution and POA algorithm that is making forging fairer. All other feats are just promises.

I am not trying to spread FUD, just trying to think in advance, invest, and hear other peoples' opinions.

There are some fairly valid points here. Anyways, don't think about investing for too long, you still have about a week until the deadline. Would be interesting to hear an input of the others about this as well.

IMO dumpers had already over 4 months to dump their stakes and as far as i know, there will be more features at the launch. (Correct me if im wrong)

Yes, this is a partially valid point. I came to think about this as well. On the other side, it
came to my mind that not everybody wanted to mess with the NemStakes and the AE asset exchange, so to tell with NXT. It is much easier just to take coins and send them to the exchange for BTC. With NemStakes, people had to learn completely new system. Then again, I might be wrong.
member
Activity: 85
Merit: 10
Somebody is selling 32 stakes on 40 000
clearance sale


The account holder seems an interesting player.

He can plays with the price, if he will sell everything, the price will fall down.
hero member
Activity: 697
Merit: 500
Guys at the moment, looking at the AE, price of one NEM is 150 satoshis. When we start trading on exchanges, upon the launch, will we beat this price or the price will be lower?

I would like to hear opinions since I am thinking should I buy a NEMStake now, or wait the launch. Please keep in mind that there will be a lot of people who will dump their stakes upon the launch. If the price will be 150 satoshis, this will be an easy 1,5 BTC for them. This will surely drive the price down and let's face it, there are people like that, who are just looking for the easy money, moreover since they invested hardly nothing. There are many coins that were more expensive on IPO than after launch. Also I think that price drop is inevitable, BTSX dropped over 50% from the launch price before it started going up.

Another thing in mind is that there are 4B NEMs to 1B NXT. This would put a price of 1 NEM to the 600 satoshis launch price comparing to NXT, since there are 4 times more coins. Anybody remembers the price of 1 NXT when it hit the exchenges upon the launch? Is this 600 satoshis to much for NEM to beat?

Feature wise, looking at NXT at the moment there is just coin sending, better distribution and POA algorithm that is making forging fairer. All other feats are just promises.

I am not trying to spread FUD, just trying to think in advance, invest, and hear other peoples' opinions.

There are some fairly valid points here. Anyways, don't think about investing for too long, you still have about a week until the deadline. Would be interesting to hear an input of the others about this as well.

IMO dumpers had already over 4 months to dump their stakes and as far as i know, there will be more features at the launch. (Correct me if im wrong)
hero member
Activity: 840
Merit: 500
Risk taker & Black Swan farmer.
Somebody is selling 32 stakes on 40 000
clearance sale


The account holder seems an interesting player.
hero member
Activity: 588
Merit: 500
NEM ....best currency distribution ever ...!!!!!!!
...
The main point for that problem was this:
jkoil:
"Here is guide for Phase1:Step3:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9082423
is that the same as Phase2 or  is it too late to proceed with Phase1:Step3 ?"

patmast3r:
"it's the same as phase 2. I suggest you completely forget that graphic."


So, I would expect that you direct your "erroneous" statements to other direction.



Dammit !!!!! I thought I was being ' erroneous' when I spelt it 'erronous' but I couldnt be arsed to check it.  Cheesy
Apart from that......I made my point.  Keep cool man.

No, you did not make any point. Obviously you do not understand or you are just trolling ..or even worse.
If you have 2 + 3 = 4, you can say that is not correct.
Same thing was with 'phases' and 'steps'.



Ok...the friendly humour didnt work

My point is this, you are a provocative dunderhead and you could probably argue with yourself to death in an empty room. What do you mean 'troll or worse' ?  Im sorry but the instruction you keep pointing out makes perfect sense to me. You are right to ask for help because you definately need it.
hero member
Activity: 798
Merit: 1000
Move On !!!!!!
Guys at the moment, looking at the AE, price of one NEM is 150 satoshis. When we start trading on exchanges, upon the launch, will we beat this price or the price will be lower?

I would like to hear opinions since I am thinking should I buy a NEMStake now, or wait the launch. Please keep in mind that there will be a lot of people who will dump their stakes upon the launch. If the price will be 150 satoshis, this will be an easy 1,5 BTC for them. This will surely drive the price down and let's face it, there are people like that, who are just looking for the easy money, moreover since they invested hardly nothing. There are many coins that were more expensive on IPO than after launch. Also I think that price drop is inevitable, BTSX dropped over 50% from the launch price before it started going up.

Another thing in mind is that there are 4B NEMs to 1B NXT. This would put a price of 1 NEM to the 600 satoshis launch price comparing to NXT, since there are 4 times more coins. Anybody remembers the price of 1 NXT when it hit the exchenges upon the launch? Is this 600 satoshis to much for NEM to beat?

Feature wise, looking at NXT at the moment there is just coin sending, better distribution and POA algorithm that is making forging fairer. All other feats are just promises.

I am not trying to spread FUD, just trying to think in advance, invest, and hear other peoples' opinions.

There are some fairly valid points here. Anyways, don't think about investing for too long, you still have about a week until the deadline. Would be interesting to hear an input of the others about this as well.
hero member
Activity: 834
Merit: 524
Nxt NEM
...
The main point for that problem was this:
jkoil:
"Here is guide for Phase1:Step3:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9082423
is that the same as Phase2 or  is it too late to proceed with Phase1:Step3 ?"

patmast3r:
"it's the same as phase 2. I suggest you completely forget that graphic."


So, I would expect that you direct your "erroneous" statements to other direction.



Dammit !!!!! I thought I was being ' erroneous' when I spelt it 'erronous' but I couldnt be arsed to check it.  Cheesy
Apart from that......I made my point.  Keep cool man.

No, you did not make any point. Obviously you do not understand or you are just trolling ..or even worse.
If you have 2 + 3 = 4, you can say that is not correct.
Same thing was with 'phases' and 'steps'.

legendary
Activity: 1218
Merit: 1004
Somebody is selling 32 stakes on 40 000
clearance sale
ancient order.
newbie
Activity: 33
Merit: 0
Somebody is selling 32 stakes on 40 000
clearance sale
hero member
Activity: 588
Merit: 500
NEM ....best currency distribution ever ...!!!!!!!
Thanks for the replies guys. But, does anyone else think that it's a bit ridiculous that the message never said anything about having to redeem by a certain deadline? All it said was here's your token. Logically, why would I redeem before the currency is launched???

Agreed, I think the launch info can be a bit ambiguous.  

I think the problem here is that you guys didnt give a shit..... Shocked

no, that is the explanation, which you tried also earlier. But you were wrong then and you are wrong now. Why else would have patmaster do the new guide.
The problem was that the old guide was "fragmented" to too many places and the old guides were not updated. Some centralization is always needed.


Do you honestly believe that? I admit Im not the brightest spark in the room but I have had absolutely no problem in following any of the given processes.....they have been detailed here, on the forum, on facebook and on the website ...ournem.com.....tokens have been sent to us individually for gods sake....oh..I wonder what this is?... Maybe I should check...........maybe I have had no problems because I was at least slighty interested in what was going on.....you know something we should have all been in order to qualify for one of the hottest stakes around........well some of us think that way......some dont...

I honestly believe that. Based on my history I have used to work with exact guides and specifications. Similar accuracy I have expected from NXT, NEM, etc. Okay, I said "expected", coz I have first complained, then suggested, then waited the results I wanted. But I have not checked ... coz here are qualified persons, who do know what they are doing. But if the suggestions have not been accomplished after some months, then ofc I am disappointed and maybe little bit frustrated ... like on Monday 3 Nov, when I first thought that I have missed the whole redemption.
Why I and maybe these others too have expected exact guides? Maybe coz they do not have time enough to follow all the pages and forums carefully enough.

Do not be modest: if you have had no difficulties to follow the redemption processes, with all those details, you must have some sparks Smiley   Okay, you said "not the brightest" - according to your celerity and sensibility you are maybe in TOP 5 Smiley

 

Well, you are entitled to believe what you want even if it is erronous. Ah I see you have edited your last comment to state that people may have not had time to keep up with developments. Well, they were not only supposed to keep up with whats going on but they were also supposed to contribute in some way to developments ...ie participate.....even in a miniscule way.....do they deserve a stake ?... mmm..questionable but Pat is putting out redemption info yet again trying to accomodate these, lets say ,shy Nemsters in the hope that they journey with us on this unprecedented path. Lets hope these guys wake up because as my partner often says..'.if you dont wake up you miss the train..'  and its a mistake to miss this train...

okay, I take something back from the previous post ... not saying what Smiley
But about the clarity issue I must copy-paste what I wrote on Nov 3:
"I have assumed that NEM development and launching is made with style and clarity. That's why I have believed that the 1st guide https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9082423
is valid also later, and therefore looked for that or some other guide with the similar outlook. Not assumed to collect some lines from page X and other lines from page Y. That is for nerds and gurus."

The main point for that problem was this:
jkoil:
"Here is guide for Phase1:Step3:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9082423
is that the same as Phase2 or  is it too late to proceed with Phase1:Step3 ?"

patmast3r:
"it's the same as phase 2. I suggest you completely forget that graphic."


So, I would expect that you direct your "erroneous" statements to other direction.



Dammit !!!!! I thought I was being ' erroneous' when I spelt it 'erronous' but I couldnt be arsed to check it.  Cheesy
Apart from that......I made my point.  Keep cool man.
hero member
Activity: 834
Merit: 524
Nxt NEM
Thanks for the replies guys. But, does anyone else think that it's a bit ridiculous that the message never said anything about having to redeem by a certain deadline? All it said was here's your token. Logically, why would I redeem before the currency is launched???

Agreed, I think the launch info can be a bit ambiguous.  

I think the problem here is that you guys didnt give a shit..... Shocked

no, that is the explanation, which you tried also earlier. But you were wrong then and you are wrong now. Why else would have patmaster do the new guide.
The problem was that the old guide was "fragmented" to too many places and the old guides were not updated. Some centralization is always needed.


Do you honestly believe that? I admit Im not the brightest spark in the room but I have had absolutely no problem in following any of the given processes.....they have been detailed here, on the forum, on facebook and on the website ...ournem.com.....tokens have been sent to us individually for gods sake....oh..I wonder what this is?... Maybe I should check...........maybe I have had no problems because I was at least slighty interested in what was going on.....you know something we should have all been in order to qualify for one of the hottest stakes around........well some of us think that way......some dont...

I honestly believe that. Based on my history I have used to work with exact guides and specifications. Similar accuracy I have expected from NXT, NEM, etc. Okay, I said "expected", coz I have first complained, then suggested, then waited the results I wanted. But I have not checked ... coz here are qualified persons, who do know what they are doing. But if the suggestions have not been accomplished after some months, then ofc I am disappointed and maybe little bit frustrated ... like on Monday 3 Nov, when I first thought that I have missed the whole redemption.
Why I and maybe these others too have expected exact guides? Maybe coz they do not have time enough to follow all the pages and forums carefully enough.

Do not be modest: if you have had no difficulties to follow the redemption processes, with all those details, you must have some sparks Smiley   Okay, you said "not the brightest" - according to your celerity and sensibility you are maybe in TOP 5 Smiley

 

Well, you are entitled to believe what you want even if it is erronous. Ah I see you have edited your last comment to state that people may have not had time to keep up with developments. Well, they were not only supposed to keep up with whats going on but they were also supposed to contribute in some way to developments ...ie participate.....even in a miniscule way.....do they deserve a stake ?... mmm..questionable but Pat is putting out redemption info yet again trying to accomodate these, lets say ,shy Nemsters in the hope that they journey with us on this unprecedented path. Lets hope these guys wake up because as my partner often says..'.if you dont wake up you miss the train..'  and its a mistake to miss this train...

okay, I take something back from the previous post ... not saying what Smiley
But about the clarity issue I must copy-paste what I wrote on Nov 3:
"I have assumed that NEM development and launching is made with style and clarity. That's why I have believed that the 1st guide https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9082423
is valid also later, and therefore looked for that or some other guide with the similar outlook. Not assumed to collect some lines from page X and other lines from page Y. That is for nerds and gurus."

The main point for that problem was this:
jkoil:
"Here is guide for Phase1:Step3:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9082423
is that the same as Phase2 or  is it too late to proceed with Phase1:Step3 ?"

patmast3r:
"it's the same as phase 2. I suggest you completely forget that graphic."


So, I would expect that you direct your "erroneous" statements to other direction.

newbie
Activity: 38
Merit: 0
Guys at the moment, looking at the AE, price of one NEM is 150 satoshis. When we start trading on exchanges, upon the launch, will we beat this price or the price will be lower?

I would like to hear opinions since I am thinking should I buy a NEMStake now, or wait the launch. Please keep in mind that there will be a lot of people who will dump their stakes upon the launch. If the price will be 150 satoshis, this will be an easy 1,5 BTC for them. This will surely drive the price down and let's face it, there are people like that, who are just looking for the easy money, moreover since they invested hardly nothing. There are many coins that were more expensive on IPO than after launch. Also I think that price drop is inevitable, BTSX dropped over 50% from the launch price before it started going up.

Another thing in mind is that there are 4B NEMs to 1B NXT. This would put a price of 1 NEM to the 600 satoshis launch price comparing to NXT, since there are 4 times more coins. Anybody remembers the price of 1 NXT when it hit the exchenges upon the launch? Is this 600 satoshis to much for NEM to beat?

Feature wise, looking at NXT at the moment there is just coin sending, better distribution and POA algorithm that is making forging fairer. All other feats are just promises.

I am not trying to spread FUD, just trying to think in advance, invest, and hear other peoples' opinions.
hero member
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Merit: 500
Risk taker & Black Swan farmer.
New version 0.4.30 is available:

https://forum.nemcoin.com/index.php?topic=2680.0

Upgrade is mandatory!


Where does it say the version number inside the client?

In the upper right corner you have a menu where you can choose "client info".
hero member
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New version 0.4.30 is available:

https://forum.nemcoin.com/index.php?topic=2680.0

Upgrade is mandatory!


Where does it say the version number inside the client?
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