Topic: NEM (XEM) Official Thread - 100% New Code - Easy To Use APIs - page 1693. (Read 2985503 times)

or increase nem amount in gold and silver coins ,it will help to sell it faster

why not to buy nem gold and silver coins and send them to deserving stake holders as a gift

Great reason?

giving nems away for free ,its like sending a message that it is worthless shit

if somebody gets something for free usually he doesnt value it much ,of cource they dump and go ,and laugh as well for getting free money

On 09.09.2014 my grandchild twins Bennet and Jonathan were born.
Suggest to send them a Nemstake each as a gift. Be sure, they will not dump or sell in the longer term.

You are making an assumption that people will dump and go. Perhaps those who registered actually care for NEM and its concept. Perhaps they will distribute in a way which is good for the coin. Maybe I am being too optimistic. There has been a shortage of people contributing in the way that you have been and others that we know of ,but maybe that will change after launch and we will hear from the true Nemsters.

Ok , admitedly a lot of 'perhapses' and ' maybes' there.....  

Agreed. It is better to use unclaimed stakes for hiring or bribing helpful people (devs, marketers, promouters, politicians, artists, businessmen).

Am I right to then say you want more for the patience? How much is small?

I think the people who really care about NEM are those trying hard to make NEM work, not those who wait 9 months, get the coins, dump and go. What I am trying to say is, there can be many who would survive on handouts or token sums to get some coins, make money on it at launch and move on.

I have taken the liberty to sample quite a few of the people in this forum to check out where they go. Many are straddling on a few boats of opportunities. These are opportunists seeking gains and not interested in the future of an initiative, not just NEM alone. For these, I don't care if they are patient enough to wait 9 years. And there are many.

Do not get me wrong, I too have interest in NEM. If anyone gets a bonus, so too will I. But what I am saying is, should we not use the unclaimed  stakes to better and promote NEM instead of just giving back to the same people.

rockethead, I really love what you are doing to facilitate the discussion both here and on the NEM forums. People in crypto are so quick to blurt out ideas without thinking about the implications of those actions on a grander scale. One reason I have been so attracted to NEM is because that type of knee-jerk reaction is rare here and there are many people in this community who are thinking about the broader scope and long-term path to making NEM a success.

NEM is in a position to be a lot of things that BTC is not and cannot be. We have to think long and hard about how we can leverage that potential in unique ways to make NEM something people want to use, and most of all CAN use. I'll equate this again to history. When the PC first arrived on the scene, there was no real use for it because it really couldn't do much. It took a lot of creative minds coming together to create new and innovative ways to use the PC before it saw mainstream adoption. VisiCalc, for example, comes to mind as a historical "killer app" for PCs.

There are many problems in this world right now that are caused by our current global financial systems. They range from minor inconveniences to contributors to major socioeconomic issues. We must think of NEM as a way to solve these problems, rather than being just a "fiat replacement" like Bitcoin. I think we should keep this in mind when we think about what to do with unclaimed stakes as well.

Lock the unclaimed stake for future use. You never know what you need in days to come.

Charity need not be "just sold" and then NEM is forgotten. Can we not think beyond how charity can be used as a means to an end? For example, we help a charitable organisation to distribute funds to the most remote parts of Africa using the NEM platform and make a case study of it for the world to see how NEM is used. Isn't this a good idea to gain world wide audience? Contribute a few NS and then get 100K readership. Is that a lot of money? A few hundred K people knowing here and there is enough to get the world's attention and use. Writing it off totally gives nothing in return and we haven't move an inch.

Destroying? Why does it make sense? We are only reducing the amount in circulation, thereby pushing the price up, but that will not make NEM great in the long run.

We need to make NEM great so that its price is pushed up on its merit, i.e., the demand for it to be used. Reducing circulation although will increase demand, is artificially created. We need to increase use and not take measures to increase value by destroying.


If we take note of what have been commented so far, everything seems to be yes/no, but I don't see a proper solution and in depth study on what can be done.


In short, every suggestion may have its merit. Don't close the door. Think deeper. If it is not right, make it right by thinking more about it. We need to exhaust every idea and turn them from a no-go to a go by making it work right.

I think I have said enough about thinking out of the box.

I cant help but think that the people who really value NEM the most are the people who have waited 9 months to register. They should be given trust and some sort of Bonus however small it may be.

The remainder of the money should be held together in a fund similar to what Makoto described earlier. A fund that will help start various ventures using the upcoming asset exchange.

I think we all know the goal is to get more people, but how?

I wouldn't just write off some of the things that you are "utterly against doing" without dwelling deeper into it.

Don't miss the forest for the trees.

Is there a deadline to redeem the token? 

It sure isn't the worst idea no. However I'd like to fund them by selling those NEM and then give them the earnings in BTC or whatever.
That way there is funding and distribution. It would create some downwoard pressure but i think we'd survive that.

Charity: will create price decrease, because it will be just sold. You could also give them dollars...
PoW: seems ok for spreading to many people. of course its not green, but its only for the initial distribution
Giving to celebs: maybe, but somehow also unfair...
using for development: acceptable but not for ALL

Destroying or give more to stakeholders:
is really the same, thats why destroying is better, because of no additional work with it.
destroying raises prices. Thats good for the development and for the stakeholders and the only thing, that makes sence...
I don't think we can give anyone else, who is not selling them immediatelly.
The main problem of distribution is not to spread on many people but to spread on people who are not just dumping it.

let's first see how many stakes will be unclaimed.
I don't think there will be more than 100 stakes

That's also more for development and marketing, not just for stakeholders.

IMO there's no other good way of handling the unclaimed stakes. There are no perfect alternatives. I can't figure out a good way to spread NEM to wider audience, which ultimately should be our goal.

Edit:
Well this seems like a very very good idea!

Here is an idea: https://forum.nemcoin.com/index.php?topic=2501.msg6274#msg6274