I have no clear idea yet on what todo with the unclaimed stake but here are the things I'm utterly against doing.
Charity
If we're gonna do that everyone can donate form their own stake. It makes no sense what so ever to use unclaimed stakes to donate to charity. It wouldn't be very charitable actually since those stakes don't actually belong to us.
More for stakeholders
We want to spread NEM wide and far and not give more to the people that already have NEM.
PoW Giveaway
I didn't even no about this idea prior to reading TaunSews post but yeah...totally fucked up imho. Here we are saying how much greener we are and how were not wasting energery and then we go ahead and do this ?
Giving it to celebs
Srsly ?
Destroying them
Basically same deal as with "more for stakeholders".
Using most of it for development
Are we underfunded ? Hell yes ! I still think this would be a bad idea as it would also not spread NEM further unless we figure out a guaranteed way to sell them to many people.
The goal imho has to be to get more people into NEM not get more NEM to the people that are already here many of whom are only in it for the profit anyway.
Topic: NEM (XEM) Official Thread - 100% New Code - Easy To Use APIs - page 1694. (Read 2985503 times)
October 09, 2014, 01:28:50 AM
October 09, 2014, 01:19:34 AM
Help !!!
I am unable to register my token
it appears to me (You have been banned. Too many failed attempts.)
I am unable to register my token
it appears to me (You have been banned. Too many failed attempts.)
not,
I'm sure I typed right. and since the first time was banned
Any chance you're using a VPN, Proxy or TOR ? Bans happen by ip so if other people made mistakes with that ip or deliberately spammed then you won't be able to claim with it either.
October 09, 2014, 12:13:52 AM
On the issue of treating unlcaimed funds, have a look here : https://forum.nemcoin.com/index.php?topic=2501.msg6261#msg6261
In short, I think the discussion of how to treat the unclaimed stakes will have more clarity if we ask ourselves some questions and try and answer that ourselves before we post them. I would propose that before you make any suggestions do ask yourselves what you want to achieve:
Objective(s) of the action - what are you trying to achieve and how are you going to do it.
Outcome expected of the action - what results are expected.
If we stick by the above, we can quickly come to some great conclusions.
In short, I think the discussion of how to treat the unclaimed stakes will have more clarity if we ask ourselves some questions and try and answer that ourselves before we post them. I would propose that before you make any suggestions do ask yourselves what you want to achieve:
Objective(s) of the action - what are you trying to achieve and how are you going to do it.
Outcome expected of the action - what results are expected.
If we stick by the above, we can quickly come to some great conclusions.
October 08, 2014, 10:49:52 PM
With the fake emails and someone trying to brute force with TOR there are clearly some people who are putting some effort in to steal NEM. The sooner we get our wallets and coins the better IMO.
October 08, 2014, 10:43:19 PM
Help !!!
I am unable to register my token
it appears to me (You have been banned. Too many failed attempts.)
I am unable to register my token
it appears to me (You have been banned. Too many failed attempts.)
not,
I'm sure I typed right. and since the first time was banned
Well you may have had hit the submit button too many times or there could be another explanation.
Probably the way to fix this is to contact Patmast3r and look up one of those websites on Google: "what is my IP" so Patmast3r knows which one you are on the list and he might remove you?
usually use TOR this will be the reason
There's been blackhat professionals targeting all the crypto currencies. So yes somebody using TOR has probably been banned from trying to brute force the website.
October 08, 2014, 10:11:27 PM
Help !!!
I am unable to register my token
it appears to me (You have been banned. Too many failed attempts.)
I am unable to register my token
it appears to me (You have been banned. Too many failed attempts.)
not,
I'm sure I typed right. and since the first time was banned
Well you may have had hit the submit button too many times or there could be another explanation.
Probably the way to fix this is to contact Patmast3r and look up one of those websites on Google: "what is my IP" so Patmast3r knows which one you are on the list and he might remove you?
usually use TOR this will be the reason
October 08, 2014, 10:05:47 PM
Help !!!
I am unable to register my token
it appears to me (You have been banned. Too many failed attempts.)
I am unable to register my token
it appears to me (You have been banned. Too many failed attempts.)
not,
I'm sure I typed right. and since the first time was banned
Well you may have had hit the submit button too many times or there could be another explanation.
Probably the way to fix this is to contact Patmast3r and look up one of those websites on Google: "what is my IP" so Patmast3r knows which one you are on the list and he might remove you?
October 08, 2014, 09:57:48 PM
Help !!!
I am unable to register my token
it appears to me (You have been banned. Too many failed attempts.)
I am unable to register my token
it appears to me (You have been banned. Too many failed attempts.)
not,
I'm sure I typed right. and since the first time was banned
October 08, 2014, 09:52:14 PM
Help !!!
I am unable to register my token
it appears to me (You have been banned. Too many failed attempts.)
I am unable to register my token
it appears to me (You have been banned. Too many failed attempts.)
Well.. did you spam the captcha?
October 08, 2014, 09:37:08 PM
Help !!!
I am unable to register my token
it appears to me (You have been banned. Too many failed attempts.)
I am unable to register my token
it appears to me (You have been banned. Too many failed attempts.)
October 08, 2014, 09:33:29 PM
Hey just a thought. porn site use tokens for something. How about NEM instead of tokens?
This isn't an original idea, but there is no incentive for porn site to use nem, something that is hard to cash, hard for buyers to buy, prices could be unstable, especially with talk about giveaways. Why on earth would a porn site use nem?
The tokens represent real dollars as people buy them for real dollars. At least bitcoins are more easy to cash, but a site like c4s don't even accept bitcoin.
It will be a long time before you can convince a major porn site like C4S to accept nem.
October 08, 2014, 09:32:06 PM
Nxt made a lot of people rich, not only the original stakeholder, but everyone else who bought between Nov and December.
If you want to see what's worthless, look at Node, NFD, Crypti, Qora, Nas, and dozens of of other coins.
The question is would Nem would be like Nxt or like Nas, Node and NFD? I suspect the worst, specially with "giveaway" talks in the air.
Nxt was a miracle -- and doesn't look it wil repeated again.
Fair enough, I think the outcome of this discussion is similar to the NEM official forum (give aways probably won't happen?)
October 08, 2014, 09:29:53 PM
We should look for some meaningful charity to put the extra NEMs to good use and great exposure too.
Hey just a thought. porn site use tokens for something. How about NEM instead of tokens?
Hey just a thought. porn site use tokens for something. How about NEM instead of tokens?
October 08, 2014, 09:28:39 PM
Someone sell 8.2 nem stake at 36 509
Go to the NxT asset exchange, add the Nem stake asset id 12465186738101000735
And buy Nem with NxT coins
Hi guys,
I would like to buy a little more NEMstake. how can I purchase like 0.1 and who's account
can I trust? Thanks in advance for the help.
I would like to buy a little more NEMstake. how can I purchase like 0.1 and who's account
can I trust? Thanks in advance for the help.
Go to the NxT asset exchange, add the Nem stake asset id 12465186738101000735
And buy Nem with NxT coins
October 08, 2014, 09:27:00 PM
Promotion. I have thought of something called "Faces of NEM", where people upload videos like "Faces of NEM - John Doe" where for half a minute to 2 minutes they explain why they want a stake, what they would do it and maybe answer any other questions like "what do you envision the future to be if everybody adopted NEM".
These people would make these videos to get 500K. Maybe the most popular respondent will get 2 million NEM? As an incentive to make a video and to get views.
These people would make these videos to get 500K. Maybe the most popular respondent will get 2 million NEM? As an incentive to make a video and to get views.
Giving away millions or maybe 1 billion nem would mean Nem would be pretty worthless, just like most other recently launched coins. These people will dump them fast. The recent history has shown that more free "giveaways" the more worthless the coin. All top coins (including bitcoin) are actually controlled by very few people
I am already feeling bad for people who bought nem by spending real money on nxt asset exchange, as we are about to be flooded by giveaways that will lower down the prices significantly.
I would rather see unclaimed coins destroyed.
UP was smart enough to require some base price for NEM after the initial free giveaways. That made most people have at least some "skin in the game." Had everything been free, NEMstake would probably be 5000 NXT.
Yes. I paid $Fiat at the time for something that had a value of $0 at the time and wasn't guaranteed to go anywhere. Probably comparable to getting into Bitcoin in 2009. I have skin in the game in that I could had used those funds for other coins and that I almost had to wait 9 months for NEM to launch.
October 08, 2014, 09:26:54 PM
Hi guys,
I would like to buy a little more NEMstake. how can I purchase like 0.1 and who's account
can I trust? Thanks in advance for the help.
I would like to buy a little more NEMstake. how can I purchase like 0.1 and who's account
can I trust? Thanks in advance for the help.
October 08, 2014, 09:26:33 PM
Promotion. I have thought of something called "Faces of NEM", where people upload videos like "Faces of NEM - John Doe" where for half a minute to 2 minutes they explain why they want a stake, what they would do it and maybe answer any other questions like "what do you envision the future to be if everybody adopted NEM".
These people would make these videos to get 500K. Maybe the most popular respondent will get 2 million NEM? As an incentive to make a video and to get views.
These people would make these videos to get 500K. Maybe the most popular respondent will get 2 million NEM? As an incentive to make a video and to get views.
Giving away millions or maybe 1 billion nem would mean Nem would be pretty worthless, just like most other recently launched coins. These people will dump them fast. The recent history has shown that more free "giveaways" the more worthless the coin. All top coins (including bitcoin) are actually controlled by very few people
I am already feeling bad for people who bought nem by spending real money on nxt asset exchange, as we are about to be flooded by giveaways that will lower the prices significantly down.
You mean worthless like NxT where, as soon as there is any price building or recovery, the whales start dumping?
NxT was pretty much one big give away to 8 wallets who obviously don't care about NxT's longevity as indicated by all the dumping they do.
I would rather see someone get $500 and do something for it unlike the typical NxT whale who did virtually zilch and received $millions overnight. Of course someone like you would shoot down my idea like someone creating a video saying why they want to be a part of NEM.
One option could be to sell 1 unclaimed stake a day on the exchange with the highest volume at market price. That could pay to keep NEM dev funded for a while into the future, without flooding the market.
October 08, 2014, 09:26:19 PM
Quote
You mean worthless like NxT where, as soon as there is any price building or recovery, the whales start dumping?
Nxt made a lot of people rich, not only the original stakeholder, but everyone else who bought between Nov and December.
If you want to see what's worthless, look at Node, NFD, Crypti, Qora, Nas, and dozens of of other coins.
The question is would Nem would be like Nxt or like Nas, Node and NFD? I suspect the worst, specially with "giveaway" talks in the air.
Nxt was a miracle -- and doesn't look it will be repeated again.
October 08, 2014, 09:24:01 PM
Promotion. I have thought of something called "Faces of NEM", where people upload videos like "Faces of NEM - John Doe" where for half a minute to 2 minutes they explain why they want a stake, what they would do it and maybe answer any other questions like "what do you envision the future to be if everybody adopted NEM".
These people would make these videos to get 500K. Maybe the most popular respondent will get 2 million NEM? As an incentive to make a video and to get views.
These people would make these videos to get 500K. Maybe the most popular respondent will get 2 million NEM? As an incentive to make a video and to get views.
Giving away millions or maybe 1 billion nem would mean Nem would be pretty worthless, just like most other recently launched coins. These people will dump them fast. The recent history has shown that more free "giveaways" the more worthless the coin. All top coins (including bitcoin) are actually controlled by very few people
I am already feeling bad for people who bought nem by spending real money on nxt asset exchange, as we are about to be flooded by giveaways that will lower down the prices significantly.
I would rather see unclaimed coins destroyed.
UP was smart enough to require some base price for NEM after the initial free giveaways. That made most people have at least some "skin in the game." Had everything been free, NEMstake would probably be 5000 NXT.
October 08, 2014, 09:20:19 PM
Promotion. I have thought of something called "Faces of NEM", where people upload videos like "Faces of NEM - John Doe" where for half a minute to 2 minutes they explain why they want a stake, what they would do it and maybe answer any other questions like "what do you envision the future to be if everybody adopted NEM".
These people would make these videos to get 500K. Maybe the most popular respondent will get 2 million NEM? As an incentive to make a video and to get views.
These people would make these videos to get 500K. Maybe the most popular respondent will get 2 million NEM? As an incentive to make a video and to get views.
Giving away millions or maybe 1 billion nem would mean Nem would be pretty worthless, just like most other recently launched coins. These people will dump them fast. The recent history has shown that more free "giveaways" the more worthless the coin. All top coins (including bitcoin) are actually controlled by very few people
I am already feeling bad for people who bought nem by spending real money on nxt asset exchange, as we are about to be flooded by giveaways that will lower the prices significantly down.
You mean worthless like NxT where, as soon as there is any price building or recovery, the whales start dumping?
NxT was pretty much one big give away to 8 wallets who obviously don't care about NxT's longevity as indicated by all the dumping they do.
I would rather see someone get $500 and do something for it unlike the typical NxT whale who did virtually zilch and received $millions overnight. Of course someone like you would shoot down my idea like someone creating a video saying why they want to be a part of NEM.
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