Topic: NEM (XEM) Official Thread - 100% New Code - Easy To Use APIs - page 1856. (Read 2984910 times)

Regarding the quark logo: does anything think quark will even be around in 1 or 2 years?

We use JDK 1.8 features very, very heavily.

The future is not in desktop wallets, IMHO, but rather in mobile, so that is the domain to conquer with good usability.

One thing is pretty clear. They have plenty of money to hire high paid developers and marketing money to team up with big companies and and banks. If they don't screw up the launch  later in the winter, I think they have pretty good chance to challenge BTC for #1 spot.

I would add eMunie into this list as well. The very interesting thing about it is its economic model and price stabilizing mechanism.

Have to say I agree. The minute java update pops up my mom closes it and tells me whatever she is trying to run is broken and I need to remote in and fix it. The average computer probably has java 1.6 and possibly 1.7. You can say "hey we provided a link" all you want, and that is a valid response, but the average joe ain't gonna navigate that. If they click it, and firefox asks "what do you want to do with this?", and they say "open" and it doesn't involve a couple clicks before the interface is in front of them, they'll roll over, and that's a fact. I do a lot of pc repair and builds for my community and I promise you the average person can't handle installing a new jdk, as ridiculous as it sounds to you and I. If you want to keep it a geek only cost of entry totally fine, just accept that is what you have done.

Also, what features in the 1.8 JDK are we using that we actually need? Are we coding to the new API or are we just saying "for some reason it seems like it only runs on 1.8 because we get a stack trace and we don't investigate it"? I'll accept that as a valid response if there is some UI based objects that really make our lives easier in 1.8. When I compared 1.6 to 1.7 for our dev shop there was like one deal breaker feature we needed (granted our code was business objects and not UI heavy).

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Also we have to build up an emotional connection with Nem in the mind of the people.
This will be the most important task during the marketing. Therefore it's a good beginning to use humans in the pictures, too.
People love to see faces and they'll always be remembered that it's a movement for them, with them and together with many others of them.
- They are not alone.

The people have to buy a product from us. But no matter which product or service you're buying; at least you're buying emotions.
That's because, you are always buying the feeling you have when you see your new car, or (maybe the best and most famous example for this) your brand new IPhone.
The humans have to be proud to be Nemsters and have to love holding and using their units in their daily routine.
Also it will be an important unique selling point, cause selling emotions will make us independent from pure technical and even rational comparisons with our competitiors.

This will be the way for Nem to be a long-term success.

On gold:

Think about it, there are only two real advantages gold and silver have to cryptos.
1) Value over time across cultures. That is a lot of momentum. (this is of course due to its luster and scarcity from the lack of metal asteroids we get)
2) Usefulness in electronics.

It does not stand on anything else.
1) "Rare". Minted coins are also finite.
2) Store of wealth. This is no different than anything else anyone agrees is valuable. There is no intrinsic value beyond electronics. Bullets, water, and other commodities are really the only real stores of wealth for someone that is concerned with anarchy.

We don't want governments to collapse _completely_. Who is going to have a standing army to guard infrastructure then? Is everyone going to cruise around with solar inverters and netbooks? Weak is fine for social shifts. Total anarchy is bad for everyone but the survivalists.

For people that buy gold and silver via proxies. Do you honestly think you will have access to that in a social collapse? Unless it was delivered to your doorstep... and then, unless you have gold coins... what are you going to do, chip of flakes to transact with people?

I just don't see much appeal to precious metals. The quantities by which you can invest for anyone but the super wealthy means it is often purchased and held through trusted parties anyway.

My 2 cents after considering investing in precious metals. I think you either buy bullets and water and MREs or you buy cryptos. You prepare for worst case or you have the expectation the government is still around.

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601 means the node has already been booted. So go ahead and put your nem address in your signature and request some nem

Can't boot a local NEM node. If I create a node name with just numbers it gives me "ERROR 306", else I always get "ERROR 601: Unknown error". I used a one-click-installation file from forum.nemcoin.com.

They already had $1 million before coindesk article and a thread on BTT.  Where's this money coming from?  Maidsafe IPO had laundered MtGox Bitcoins and Maidsafe corporation and angel investors buying their own coin and that went to $8 million.  What happened to Maidsafe?  Well the volume afterwards became a joke because 99% of it was all internal buying.


Ethereum has the Goldmansach's connection and they presumably have angel investors with deep pockets.  They're making it look like Ethereum actually has demand and a following but we know the opposite to be true - Ethereum forum is essentially dead, almost nobody talks about it on Bitcointalk (and those who did hate it), so Ethereum in a nutshell is another ponzi scheme ran by a few wealthy investors and they're going the copywrighting route like Mastercoin and Maxcoin (spamming lame articles and videos all over the place).

@patmast3r - Your point is absolutely taken, I'm just trying to constantly remind everyone how low the bar really is, so where possible let's make strategic decisions. In this case I think people just wanted a solid justification for the "latest and greatest" tendency concern, which has now been given. That certainly wasn't a jab at the devs, whom I respect. Just don't forget how mind bendingly inefficient the average person is on a piece of technology. Statements like "this will someday replace fiat" require the minimum amount of barriers. As you said, that time frame is much larger than the small window of struggle we are seeing here, so acknowledged.