Topic: [NemosMiner] multi algo profit switching NVIDIA/CPU miner - page 75. (Read 289475 times)

I'm glad it's not just me!  I've been pulling in significantly less than the 24h statistics suggest over the past week or so on AHP.  I guess I'll be switching to somewhere else for a bit.   From .00367 BTC/day to .00277 over two weeks, with Nemos saying I should (currently) expect .00331.  That's a pretty significant margin of error.

If you don't mind me asking what pool are you using to direct mine XVG?  I've been thinking about doing a bit of that myself because it seems like there's a lot of room for improvement in its price but yiimp.eu doesn't have enough people on x17 to make it worth your while right now.

Have you pointed it at zpool? 

AHashPool mining has been seriously unprofitable for the past few days, more than the fall of bitcoin and altcoins.  A farm that did $500/day at bitcoin peak is lucky to pull in $75/day on ahashpool using NemosMiner.  Tried both 24hr or regular scripts.

Switching that same farm over to mining XVG (blake2s) directly (on another pool) results in 4600-4800 XVG which is $276-$278.  Farm avg is 300GB/sec fyi

Not sure whats going on with ahashpool but something has definitely changed recently!

This is my 84 GPU Farm (1070ti).

The only one I did was 2x 1070 Ahash vs. 2x 1070 zpool and Ahash was almost 30% better than zpool when algo switching on both.  I ran that for almost a week.  When I did a couple day test where both just mined x17(back when xvg was up) they were within 2% of eachother and the time that I stopped the test could have made the difference so I didn't list the winner. 

I've tested Ahash pool vs Hash Refinery vs Nicehash since 1/21 using 7x1060 6gb and 8x1060 3gb. The overclock's were similar but not identical -- if I standardize the % difference in overclock and average hash rate (generously 8% comparing the fastest rig vs slowest by hash rate), Ahash was still dead last with an additional 8% to the profits. In one week the difference was 1.5 mBTC between the highest and lowest profit pools. I even flipped the fastest rig by hash rate to Ahash for the last two days and no change in rankings.

*I used Awesome miner NOT Nemosminer to poll the 24 hour profitability API as displayed by Ahash and Hash Refinery every 30 minutes with a 5% difference in profitability to change algorithm. I used current profitability for Nicehash with 10 minute polls, 3% change difference in profitability.  I disabled ethereum for the 8x1060 rig 3gb for the test during the first week (Samsung > Micron memory found on the 6gb rigs). This resulted in primarily core dependent algorithms being used which evened up YIIMP pools vs Nicehash.

I'd advise everyone to do their own tests in parallel, I was surprised with the results.

I'd like to see others do similar tests with as many of the variables under control.

Testing will end at 3:30pm today (about 5 hours from now) for 1 week of total run time. I will then need to let MPH settle all of the coin exchanges to get the final tally and I'm not sure how long that will take; probably a few hours at least.

The way I understand it, NH charges 2% fee to transfer to/from their internal wallet - I'm not really sure when that comes into play as this is my first time using NH, but I am outraged nonetheless that I have to pay any fee to transfer money between internal wallets. However, there is no fee to transfer BTC from NH to Coinbase, so that is where I will be sending my NH earnings.

Conversely, there will be a fee to transfer BTC from MPH to an external wallet - e.g., Coinbase, Bittrex, Cryptopia... even that train wreck, stocks.exchange - so I will send that balance to my Bittrex account, as it is actually useful for trading. I will then have to wait some unknown number of hours for both transfers to clear so I'm guessing I'll be posting my new comparison thread tomorrow.

I will list the algos I enabled in NH and MPH since I did not let either program use all that were available. I have no idea whether all of the algos I did enable were used by either miner and, frankly, I don't much care; the whole point of auto-switching miners is to do that work for you, so if I have to micromanage what algos are used and when then I might as well mine single coins (which, btw, is what I primarily do  ).

I can't promise you I'll remember to PM you when I post the new thread but I'll try. I also have some other comparisons running at the moment so I'll be pretty busy today and tomorrow writing everything up.

PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT

To everyone asking about discrepancies regarding the projected (estimated) income and actual earned, please understand that, the values shown by NEMOSMINER are just that, they provide an ESTIMATED based on POOL and COIN market values at that particular time.

Like the website "what to mine" these figures are just estimates values based on historical and actual data, keep in mind the youtube mining craze have shut difficulty to the moon, as more people jump into mining tokens needs to be divided between more people. (less earnings)

Once this estimation is made and you start mining its up to the POOL (not nemosminer) to calculate your earned shared and then this shares (TOKENS) go to the exchanges to be sold/exchnage for BTC by the time your token get to the exchanges (the value could have gone down or up) and then you also need to subtract the pool and/or miner FEES


REPEAT AFTER ME: ALL THIS NUMBERS ARE JUST ESTIMATES, NO ONE CAN PREDICT EXACT EARNINGS OR PROFITS, THE ALTCOIN MARKET ITS VERY VOLATILE.


just look around the forums:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/if-you-are-thinking-of-mining-learn-what-difficulty-is-first-1959495
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/mining-earnings-are-terrible-im-shutting-down-for-a-while-2854657
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/nicehash-btc-payouts-declining-past-couple-days-2838990
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/roi-question-on-mining-rigs-1925830
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/all-of-a-sudden-my-1070-went-from-making-me-5-a-day-to-barley-3-2843980

If you want this figures to be just a tiny bit more realistic, you can try single algo or coin mining, or increase your interval time to say 900 seconds or more in memos or reduce to amount of algos that you want to mine.

In my case, I have seen my earning decrease just like everyone else (ALTCOIN MARKET ITS VERY VOLATILE) however my estimated earnings are about 85% accurate. I only mine xevan,hsr,phi,bitcore,x17,Nist5,Lyra2RE2,neoscrypt at 900 seconds intervals. this reduces frequent switching increasing my probability of earning more tokens per block/algo. but at the end of the day it all depends of the values of your tokens when the hit the exchanges.

PS: Please forgive my grammar as English is not my primary language.

Adios.

@Minerx117. perhaps adding a disclaimer in the miner readme or front page can help set more realistics expectations.

Disclaimer: I am not an crypto expert nor a programmer. All this information I have shared it is my personal opinion and understanding of how things works, and I could be wrong.

Thanks.

Hi to everyone! Minerx117, thanks for your work
first of all, sorry for my english if i made many mistakes.

I have 2 PCs, one with 1080 and second with 2x1060 6gb.
And there is some problem with values in nemosminer and what i actually get on ahashpool. On each PC for top algo nemosminer shows value about 0.8 mBTC/day, so for both i expect 1.4-1.6 mBTC/day. But on ahashpool for last 24h i see only 0.56 mBTC of income. Is this correct or something is going wrong?

I have released a multi miner support for EthMonitoring v0.0.30 (https://ethmonitoring.com/site/faq), if anybody wants to try out: https://github.com/JamesSmith2/EthMonitoring/releases

I am really interested to see the results of this. Could you please DM me a link to the new thread once you have created it? Also, could you add withdrawal fees to your comparison? NH is quite expensive to withdraw from. Regards

Ahhhh that makes sense, thanks! I set my donated time to 2min. I will temporarily set it to zero just to see if it stops trying to connect to that pool. regards

NemosMiner whatsapp group:
https://chat.whatsapp.com/A9jrZSkJ0aW0Qbl0NAIOWY

MPH is great for AMD cards but if you're using nvidia they don't have a lot of the most profitable coins to make it as profitable as ahash.  I have a couple cpu miners and 1 1060 there but I'm trying something out to see how it works.  I really haven't mined much there because it was quite a bit less profitable than even zpool.

Interested as to why MPH is not as a good as ahashpool?

Cheers.

try ahashpool or at least Nicehash port with nemosminer (so you have better miner soft). Both can give you easy +10%.

Same here, v2.1 is completely broken for me.

I setup version 1.0, but it is giving me incomplete results.  Sometimes it reports 0 earnings and that throws off the whole calculations.  I tried it for a day, but it was under reporting what I was actually earning.  That is useless to me.

With Bitcoin falling and altcoins falling for the last 2 days its unfair to compare to what you were making with NiceHash prior to crypto falling.  MiningPoolHub doesn't help either...  Try ahashpool

I'm not entirely sure, but I *think* Zergpool.com will let you specify another coin besides BTC for autoconversion. It also let's you mine multiple coins with the same algo (e.g. - Neoscrypt), auto-converting them all to a single coin that you specify (both with a payment address and by setting the password to c=XXX, where XXX is the coin symbol; e.g. - BTC).

The homepage for the pool shows conversion to BTC in all the examples, but it seems to suggest that other coins can be chosen. I am testing Zergpool right now with a single RX 570 mining Neoscrypt auto-converting to BTC, but if the test results are promising - and so far they are - then I will next try setting a different target coin, likely ETH as well.

BTW - only a little more than a day to go in the Nemosminer/MPH vs. NiceHash test w/ dueling 1080s and NH is still well ahead...

well so far im not impressed with nemos... i rly wish i didnt need to say this but calculating in btc, nicehash is paying off better.
but then... to not see that greedy nicehash smiley makes me feel better.
guess problem aint nemosminer but miningpoolhub that need to update coins that can be mined. meanwhile i will try the other pools, with nemosminer.