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jr. member
Activity: 42
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May 30, 2018, 01:58:17 PM
iquidus has alot of bugs. prohashing and other yiimp based explorers are far more accurate.

Just out of curiousity in case your statement here is indeed the case (and i have some doubts about it), but just in case.

- So why is Verge using the most bugged explorer for its own currency?
- What's the prupose of having an official explorer nobody can rely on?
- What explorer do you use than while doing your own research/investigation if the official Verge Explorer can't be trusted due it's bugs?
- Was the possibility that the explorer shows the correct value actually investigated or you just think it's a bug?
- Any reference or example where this bug elsewhere happened and shows negative balance?

And there is still no answer to a whole lot of valid questions, maybe you won't to take a look into them as well.

P.S.: IF this guy here posting and offending people en mass here with lowest street language is really your moderator on the telegram channel
and representing Verges views/spirit/interest, than you should think about what bad taste such behavour leaves associated with Verge.
Just as a thought and side note.

Lolololol. Offending normal people ( which i dont ) or FUDDers ( which i will always) like you? I give FUDders extra treatment. Get used to my offensive behaviour until you keep spreading fake shit and asking vague question again and again to prove your shitty thing.


What has boxalex said that is fake or FUD? Nothing that I see.

Your friend box or whatever his name is fishing for anything just like rest of fudders. This thread was supposed to be on the alleged attack on Verge Network, which was unsuccessfull. Yet, he keeps going OFFTOPIC, now that sockpuppet of OCMiner chose a topic on Blockexplorer bug. I mean What the F? It seems like he wants to keep this discussion to go on forever.
It seems like we have a collection of Banned people over here.

Ya'all have adopted motto
" IF YOU CANT MAKE IT, FAKE IT "

This thread was started during the first attack back in April and continued to stay alive because of new attacks? Even though the latest attack was unsuccessful, the fact of the matter is that attempts are being made which warrants the existence of a place where these issue can be discussed.

You on the other hand have only responded with insults and 0 actual answers to any questions.

All you've manage to do successfully is project your insecurities.

It amazes me always that people with new accounts show up wit to ask same question again and again without even reading the whole post. Literally your account has been used for this thread.
I can bet, that you are one of the same person who were posting FUD and yet created new account to claim your concern.

If you want ur answer really, then have a look at older posts and DYOR.

You are perpetuating a scam and I hope you feel bad about it.
jr. member
Activity: 42
Merit: 1
May 30, 2018, 01:54:35 PM
iquidus has alot of bugs. prohashing and other yiimp based explorers are far more accurate.

Just out of curiousity in case your statement here is indeed the case (and i have some doubts about it), but just in case.

- So why is Verge using the most bugged explorer for its own currency?
- What's the prupose of having an official explorer nobody can rely on?
- What explorer do you use than while doing your own research/investigation if the official Verge Explorer can't be trusted due it's bugs?
- Was the possibility that the explorer shows the correct value actually investigated or you just think it's a bug?
- Any reference or example where this bug elsewhere happened and shows negative balance?

And there is still no answer to a whole lot of valid questions, maybe you won't to take a look into them as well.

P.S.: IF this guy here posting and offending people en mass here with lowest street language is really your moderator on the telegram channel
and representing Verges views/spirit/interest, than you should think about what bad taste such behavour leaves associated with Verge.
Just as a thought and side note.

Lolololol. Offending normal people ( which i dont ) or FUDDers ( which i will always) like you? I give FUDders extra treatment. Get used to my offensive behaviour until you keep spreading fake shit and asking vague question again and again to prove your shitty thing.

Let's get into technicalities. Very isn't even private. There is no private transaction or private ledger. Wraith is stealth addresses with Tor. All values are visible on the blockchain.
jr. member
Activity: 126
Merit: 2
May 30, 2018, 01:06:07 PM
iquidus has alot of bugs. prohashing and other yiimp based explorers are far more accurate.

Just out of curiousity in case your statement here is indeed the case (and i have some doubts about it), but just in case.

- So why is Verge using the most bugged explorer for its own currency?
- What's the prupose of having an official explorer nobody can rely on?
- What explorer do you use than while doing your own research/investigation if the official Verge Explorer can't be trusted due it's bugs?
- Was the possibility that the explorer shows the correct value actually investigated or you just think it's a bug?
- Any reference or example where this bug elsewhere happened and shows negative balance?

And there is still no answer to a whole lot of valid questions, maybe you won't to take a look into them as well.

P.S.: IF this guy here posting and offending people en mass here with lowest street language is really your moderator on the telegram channel
and representing Verges views/spirit/interest, than you should think about what bad taste such behavour leaves associated with Verge.
Just as a thought and side note.

Lolololol. Offending normal people ( which i dont ) or FUDDers ( which i will always) like you? I give FUDders extra treatment. Get used to my offensive behaviour until you keep spreading fake shit and asking vague question again and again to prove your shitty thing.


What has boxalex said that is fake or FUD? Nothing that I see.

all of those questions have easy answers that anyone can check for themselves. the fact that someone that doesn't even like verge wants to have them handed to him says it all.

Here, fixed it for you:


all none of those questions have easy been answers answered with any evidence from Verge that anyone noone can check for themselves. the fact that someone that doesn't even like verge wants to have them handed to him says it all.
jr. member
Activity: 181
Merit: 1
May 30, 2018, 12:37:05 PM
cheers i had no issues there but not liking how others are treated
i find that they are much more repectful when i pm them about an issue (same issues even) as someone else that might have posted in #general would get a beating on.
anyways thanks for replying
newbie
Activity: 42
Merit: 0
May 30, 2018, 12:31:41 PM
iquidus has alot of bugs. prohashing and other yiimp based explorers are far more accurate.

Just out of curiousity in case your statement here is indeed the case (and i have some doubts about it), but just in case.

- So why is Verge using the most bugged explorer for its own currency?
- What's the prupose of having an official explorer nobody can rely on?
- What explorer do you use than while doing your own research/investigation if the official Verge Explorer can't be trusted due it's bugs?
- Was the possibility that the explorer shows the correct value actually investigated or you just think it's a bug?
- Any reference or example where this bug elsewhere happened and shows negative balance?

And there is still no answer to a whole lot of valid questions, maybe you won't to take a look into them as well.

P.S.: IF this guy here posting and offending people en mass here with lowest street language is really your moderator on the telegram channel
and representing Verges views/spirit/interest, than you should think about what bad taste such behavour leaves associated with Verge.
Just as a thought and side note.

Lolololol. Offending normal people ( which i dont ) or FUDDers ( which i will always) like you? I give FUDders extra treatment. Get used to my offensive behaviour until you keep spreading fake shit and asking vague question again and again to prove your shitty thing.


What has boxalex said that is fake or FUD? Nothing that I see.

all of those questions have easy answers that anyone can check for themselves. the fact that someone that doesn't even like verge wants to have them handed to him says it all.

@justin as a xvg follower myself i just want to get a comment over to you about ur discord (maybe not the right place here) but anyways you need to get rid of them clowns in ur discord, constantly abusing everyone who has a simple question makes the mods look like a joke. constantly assuming everyone who has a question to what happen is ocminer undercover. some ppl are just new to crypto and would just like info on what they have invested in and when u got a shit community its pretty hard to know what to beleive... all i see in discord from these clowns are disrepect to anyone who has issues wanting to know more info.... and politeness to any suckups..... not a good impression.... maybe some are ocminer fans coming to stir the pot but others are also genuine enquires plz tell ur mods to keep channel user friendly. thanks

Hello,
Thanks for sharing it but as long as i know discord has polite mods and is way better than telegram. If you have joined our telegram and have seen activities during the past months, you would know why we moderators needed to toughen up. We arent driving any investors or NON investors away. Infact we answer all your questions if they are legit, relevant ones. On several occassions we have encountered peoples who just join to share irrelevant posts,links to which we take action.

Trust me, we mods, admins have the tough job to protect the community from false or fake news. I hope you understand our situation and be able to find a way to be on same page from now.
Thanks

not sure about telegram always on discord.. i personally have no issues there but what i see there (discord) is just plain rude from the regulars eg yesterdays issues... (my take) some ppl just got on/woke up possibly and ask a simple question "what happen did we get hacked again" then 10 or so, so called "regulars" start abusing the questioner, maybe they had read something and simply came on to clarify.... maybe it was someone trying to spread fud.... but either way answer could just have been "no" but instead they get the "f$% off treatment"...
some people follow everyday there but dont type, like myself and when mods dont calm them clowns or join in at the abuse it makes whole community shameful.
i get there are trollers but you have to judge everyone as a genuine enquirer. fair enough if they kept going on about something but most of them only made 1 comment/question

I see. I am on TG so didnt knew abt it, I understand it now.
I think you might have got into crossfire as we got a lot of trolls since like 3 days.
I will talk to other mods regarding this situation and will see that such incident doesnt repeat again.
Thank you. Smiley


member
Activity: 420
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May 30, 2018, 12:28:00 PM
iquidus has alot of bugs. prohashing and other yiimp based explorers are far more accurate.

Just out of curiousity in case your statement here is indeed the case (and i have some doubts about it), but just in case.

- So why is Verge using the most bugged explorer for its own currency?
- What's the prupose of having an official explorer nobody can rely on?
- What explorer do you use than while doing your own research/investigation if the official Verge Explorer can't be trusted due it's bugs?
- Was the possibility that the explorer shows the correct value actually investigated or you just think it's a bug?
- Any reference or example where this bug elsewhere happened and shows negative balance?

And there is still no answer to a whole lot of valid questions, maybe you won't to take a look into them as well.

P.S.: IF this guy here posting and offending people en mass here with lowest street language is really your moderator on the telegram channel
and representing Verges views/spirit/interest, than you should think about what bad taste such behavour leaves associated with Verge.
Just as a thought and side note.

Lolololol. Offending normal people ( which i dont ) or FUDDers ( which i will always) like you? I give FUDders extra treatment. Get used to my offensive behaviour until you keep spreading fake shit and asking vague question again and again to prove your shitty thing.


What has boxalex said that is fake or FUD? Nothing that I see.

all of those questions have easy answers that anyone can check for themselves. the fact that someone that doesn't even like verge wants to have them handed to him says it all.

If the answers are that easy why everybody has to dig them out themselfs? You just deflect and avoid critical questions but are fast on easy ones .... This as well says it all.

And the thread watering attempts and endless offendings of your different Verge moderators won't succed. This is a topic where you can not delete just any uncomfortable post and i personally
will continue to bump up every unanswered legit and normal question that raises concerns.


jr. member
Activity: 181
Merit: 1
May 30, 2018, 12:26:00 PM
iquidus has alot of bugs. prohashing and other yiimp based explorers are far more accurate.

Just out of curiousity in case your statement here is indeed the case (and i have some doubts about it), but just in case.

- So why is Verge using the most bugged explorer for its own currency?
- What's the prupose of having an official explorer nobody can rely on?
- What explorer do you use than while doing your own research/investigation if the official Verge Explorer can't be trusted due it's bugs?
- Was the possibility that the explorer shows the correct value actually investigated or you just think it's a bug?
- Any reference or example where this bug elsewhere happened and shows negative balance?

And there is still no answer to a whole lot of valid questions, maybe you won't to take a look into them as well.

P.S.: IF this guy here posting and offending people en mass here with lowest street language is really your moderator on the telegram channel
and representing Verges views/spirit/interest, than you should think about what bad taste such behavour leaves associated with Verge.
Just as a thought and side note.

Lolololol. Offending normal people ( which i dont ) or FUDDers ( which i will always) like you? I give FUDders extra treatment. Get used to my offensive behaviour until you keep spreading fake shit and asking vague question again and again to prove your shitty thing.


What has boxalex said that is fake or FUD? Nothing that I see.

all of those questions have easy answers that anyone can check for themselves. the fact that someone that doesn't even like verge wants to have them handed to him says it all.

@justin as a xvg follower myself i just want to get a comment over to you about ur discord (maybe not the right place here) but anyways you need to get rid of them clowns in ur discord, constantly abusing everyone who has a simple question makes the mods look like a joke. constantly assuming everyone who has a question to what happen is ocminer undercover. some ppl are just new to crypto and would just like info on what they have invested in and when u got a shit community its pretty hard to know what to beleive... all i see in discord from these clowns are disrepect to anyone who has issues wanting to know more info.... and politeness to any suckups..... not a good impression.... maybe some are ocminer fans coming to stir the pot but others are also genuine enquires plz tell ur mods to keep channel user friendly. thanks

Hello,
Thanks for sharing it but as long as i know discord has polite mods and is way better than telegram. If you have joined our telegram and have seen activities during the past months, you would know why we moderators needed to toughen up. We arent driving any investors or NON investors away. Infact we answer all your questions if they are legit, relevant ones. On several occassions we have encountered peoples who just join to share irrelevant posts,links to which we take action.

Trust me, we mods, admins have the tough job to protect the community from false or fake news. I hope you understand our situation and be able to find a way to be on same page from now.
Thanks

not sure about telegram always on discord.. i personally have no issues there but what i see there (discord) is just plain rude from the regulars eg yesterdays issues... (my take) some ppl just got on/woke up possibly and ask a simple question "what happen did we get hacked again" then 10 or so, so called "regulars" start abusing the questioner, maybe they had read something and simply came on to clarify.... maybe it was someone trying to spread fud.... but either way answer could just have been "no" but instead they get the "f$% off treatment"...
some people follow everyday there but dont type, like myself and when mods dont calm them clowns or join in at the abuse it makes whole community shameful.
i get there are trollers but you have to judge everyone as a genuine enquirer. fair enough if they kept going on about something but most of them only made 1 comment/question
newbie
Activity: 42
Merit: 0
May 30, 2018, 12:23:20 PM
iquidus has alot of bugs. prohashing and other yiimp based explorers are far more accurate.

Just out of curiousity in case your statement here is indeed the case (and i have some doubts about it), but just in case.

- So why is Verge using the most bugged explorer for its own currency?
- What's the prupose of having an official explorer nobody can rely on?
- What explorer do you use than while doing your own research/investigation if the official Verge Explorer can't be trusted due it's bugs?
- Was the possibility that the explorer shows the correct value actually investigated or you just think it's a bug?
- Any reference or example where this bug elsewhere happened and shows negative balance?

And there is still no answer to a whole lot of valid questions, maybe you won't to take a look into them as well.

P.S.: IF this guy here posting and offending people en mass here with lowest street language is really your moderator on the telegram channel
and representing Verges views/spirit/interest, than you should think about what bad taste such behavour leaves associated with Verge.
Just as a thought and side note.

Lolololol. Offending normal people ( which i dont ) or FUDDers ( which i will always) like you? I give FUDders extra treatment. Get used to my offensive behaviour until you keep spreading fake shit and asking vague question again and again to prove your shitty thing.


What has boxalex said that is fake or FUD? Nothing that I see.

Your friend box or whatever his name is fishing for anything just like rest of fudders. This thread was supposed to be on the alleged attack on Verge Network, which was unsuccessfull. Yet, he keeps going OFFTOPIC, now that sockpuppet of OCMiner chose a topic on Blockexplorer bug. I mean What the F? It seems like he wants to keep this discussion to go on forever.
It seems like we have a collection of Banned people over here.

Ya'all have adopted motto
" IF YOU CANT MAKE IT, FAKE IT "

This thread was started during the first attack back in April and continued to stay alive because of new attacks? Even though the latest attack was unsuccessful, the fact of the matter is that attempts are being made which warrants the existence of a place where these issue can be discussed.

You on the other hand have only responded with insults and 0 actual answers to any questions.

All you've manage to do successfully is project your insecurities.

It amazes me always that people with new accounts show up wit to ask same question again and again without even reading the whole post. Literally your account has been used for this thread.
I can bet, that you are one of the same person who were posting FUD and yet created new account to claim your concern.

If you want ur answer really, then have a look at older posts and DYOR.
newbie
Activity: 42
Merit: 0
May 30, 2018, 12:15:30 PM
iquidus has alot of bugs. prohashing and other yiimp based explorers are far more accurate.

Just out of curiousity in case your statement here is indeed the case (and i have some doubts about it), but just in case.

- So why is Verge using the most bugged explorer for its own currency?
- What's the prupose of having an official explorer nobody can rely on?
- What explorer do you use than while doing your own research/investigation if the official Verge Explorer can't be trusted due it's bugs?
- Was the possibility that the explorer shows the correct value actually investigated or you just think it's a bug?
- Any reference or example where this bug elsewhere happened and shows negative balance?

And there is still no answer to a whole lot of valid questions, maybe you won't to take a look into them as well.

P.S.: IF this guy here posting and offending people en mass here with lowest street language is really your moderator on the telegram channel
and representing Verges views/spirit/interest, than you should think about what bad taste such behavour leaves associated with Verge.
Just as a thought and side note.

Lolololol. Offending normal people ( which i dont ) or FUDDers ( which i will always) like you? I give FUDders extra treatment. Get used to my offensive behaviour until you keep spreading fake shit and asking vague question again and again to prove your shitty thing.


What has boxalex said that is fake or FUD? Nothing that I see.

all of those questions have easy answers that anyone can check for themselves. the fact that someone that doesn't even like verge wants to have them handed to him says it all.

@justin as a xvg follower myself i just want to get a comment over to you about ur discord (maybe not the right place here) but anyways you need to get rid of them clowns in ur discord, constantly abusing everyone who has a simple question makes the mods look like a joke. constantly assuming everyone who has a question to what happen is ocminer undercover. some ppl are just new to crypto and would just like info on what they have invested in and when u got a shit community its pretty hard to know what to beleive... all i see in discord from these clowns are disrepect to anyone who has issues wanting to know more info.... and politeness to any suckups..... not a good impression.... maybe some are ocminer fans coming to stir the pot but others are also genuine enquires plz tell ur mods to keep channel user friendly. thanks

Hello,
Thanks for sharing it but as long as i know discord has polite mods and is way better than telegram. If you have joined our telegram and have seen activities during the past months, you would know why we moderators needed to toughen up. We arent driving any investors or NON investors away. Infact we answer all your questions if they are legit, relevant ones. On several occassions we have encountered peoples who just join to share irrelevant posts,links to which we take action.

Trust me, we mods, admins have the tough job to protect the community from false or fake news. I hope you understand our situation and be able to find a way to be on same page from now.
Thanks
newbie
Activity: 6
Merit: 1
May 30, 2018, 12:12:18 PM
iquidus has alot of bugs. prohashing and other yiimp based explorers are far more accurate.

Just out of curiousity in case your statement here is indeed the case (and i have some doubts about it), but just in case.

- So why is Verge using the most bugged explorer for its own currency?
- What's the prupose of having an official explorer nobody can rely on?
- What explorer do you use than while doing your own research/investigation if the official Verge Explorer can't be trusted due it's bugs?
- Was the possibility that the explorer shows the correct value actually investigated or you just think it's a bug?
- Any reference or example where this bug elsewhere happened and shows negative balance?

And there is still no answer to a whole lot of valid questions, maybe you won't to take a look into them as well.

P.S.: IF this guy here posting and offending people en mass here with lowest street language is really your moderator on the telegram channel
and representing Verges views/spirit/interest, than you should think about what bad taste such behavour leaves associated with Verge.
Just as a thought and side note.

Lolololol. Offending normal people ( which i dont ) or FUDDers ( which i will always) like you? I give FUDders extra treatment. Get used to my offensive behaviour until you keep spreading fake shit and asking vague question again and again to prove your shitty thing.


What has boxalex said that is fake or FUD? Nothing that I see.

Your friend box or whatever his name is fishing for anything just like rest of fudders. This thread was supposed to be on the alleged attack on Verge Network, which was unsuccessfull. Yet, he keeps going OFFTOPIC, now that sockpuppet of OCMiner chose a topic on Blockexplorer bug. I mean What the F? It seems like he wants to keep this discussion to go on forever.
It seems like we have a collection of Banned people over here.

Ya'all have adopted motto
" IF YOU CANT MAKE IT, FAKE IT "

This thread was started during the first attack back in April and continued to stay alive because of new attacks? Even though the latest attack was unsuccessful, the fact of the matter is that attempts are being made which warrants the existence of a place where these issue can be discussed.

You on the other hand have only responded with insults and 0 actual answers to any questions.

All you've manage to do successfully is project your insecurities.
jr. member
Activity: 181
Merit: 1
May 30, 2018, 12:06:10 PM
iquidus has alot of bugs. prohashing and other yiimp based explorers are far more accurate.

Just out of curiousity in case your statement here is indeed the case (and i have some doubts about it), but just in case.

- So why is Verge using the most bugged explorer for its own currency?
- What's the prupose of having an official explorer nobody can rely on?
- What explorer do you use than while doing your own research/investigation if the official Verge Explorer can't be trusted due it's bugs?
- Was the possibility that the explorer shows the correct value actually investigated or you just think it's a bug?
- Any reference or example where this bug elsewhere happened and shows negative balance?

And there is still no answer to a whole lot of valid questions, maybe you won't to take a look into them as well.

P.S.: IF this guy here posting and offending people en mass here with lowest street language is really your moderator on the telegram channel
and representing Verges views/spirit/interest, than you should think about what bad taste such behavour leaves associated with Verge.
Just as a thought and side note.

Lolololol. Offending normal people ( which i dont ) or FUDDers ( which i will always) like you? I give FUDders extra treatment. Get used to my offensive behaviour until you keep spreading fake shit and asking vague question again and again to prove your shitty thing.


What has boxalex said that is fake or FUD? Nothing that I see.

all of those questions have easy answers that anyone can check for themselves. the fact that someone that doesn't even like verge wants to have them handed to him says it all.

@justin as a xvg follower myself i just want to get a comment over to you about ur discord (maybe not the right place here) but anyways you need to get rid of them clowns in ur discord, constantly abusing everyone who has a simple question makes the mods look like a joke. constantly assuming everyone who has a question to what happen is ocminer undercover. some ppl are just new to crypto and would just like info on what they have invested in and when u got a shit community its pretty hard to know what to beleive... all i see in discord from these clowns are disrepect to anyone who has issues wanting to know more info.... and politeness to any suckups..... not a good impression.... maybe some are ocminer fans coming to stir the pot but others are also genuine enquires plz tell ur mods to keep channel user friendly. thanks
newbie
Activity: 6
Merit: 1
May 30, 2018, 12:04:38 PM
Patelkaran.8798's behavior is exemplerary of how I was treated on the XVG telegram and discord when asking legitimate questions 2 months ago back when I was thinking of investing.

Somehow a concerned question === FUD to the majority of their community. You guys are seriously overly paranoid, without ever citing anything other than the dev's own incomplete answers.

The groupthink within the community is leading to some childish behavior and its sickening to watch. Literally every coin experiences FUD and fake news. Get the fuck over it. What stands out from XVG is how the community responds, and it's worrisome.

It's clear that marketing and coin price is a bigger priority rather than innovating.

The deflection from the dev is beyond annoying. He'd put a lot of minds to ease if he actually answered using his own words instead of busting out the old "DYOR" response.
newbie
Activity: 42
Merit: 0
May 30, 2018, 12:03:32 PM
iquidus has alot of bugs. prohashing and other yiimp based explorers are far more accurate.

Just out of curiousity in case your statement here is indeed the case (and i have some doubts about it), but just in case.

- So why is Verge using the most bugged explorer for its own currency?
- What's the prupose of having an official explorer nobody can rely on?
- What explorer do you use than while doing your own research/investigation if the official Verge Explorer can't be trusted due it's bugs?
- Was the possibility that the explorer shows the correct value actually investigated or you just think it's a bug?
- Any reference or example where this bug elsewhere happened and shows negative balance?

And there is still no answer to a whole lot of valid questions, maybe you won't to take a look into them as well.

P.S.: IF this guy here posting and offending people en mass here with lowest street language is really your moderator on the telegram channel
and representing Verges views/spirit/interest, than you should think about what bad taste such behavour leaves associated with Verge.
Just as a thought and side note.

Lolololol. Offending normal people ( which i dont ) or FUDDers ( which i will always) like you? I give FUDders extra treatment. Get used to my offensive behaviour until you keep spreading fake shit and asking vague question again and again to prove your shitty thing.


What has boxalex said that is fake or FUD? Nothing that I see.

Your friend box or whatever his name is fishing for anything just like rest of fudders. This thread was supposed to be on the alleged attack on Verge Network, which was unsuccessfull. Yet, he keeps going OFFTOPIC, now that sockpuppet of OCMiner chose a topic on Blockexplorer bug. I mean What the F? It seems like he wants to keep this discussion to go on forever.
It seems like we have a collection of Banned people over here.

Ya'all have adopted motto
" IF YOU CANT MAKE IT, FAKE IT "
jr. member
Activity: 126
Merit: 2
May 30, 2018, 12:02:57 PM
iquidus has alot of bugs. prohashing and other yiimp based explorers are far more accurate.

Just out of curiousity in case your statement here is indeed the case (and i have some doubts about it), but just in case.

- So why is Verge using the most bugged explorer for its own currency?
- What's the prupose of having an official explorer nobody can rely on?
- What explorer do you use than while doing your own research/investigation if the official Verge Explorer can't be trusted due it's bugs?
- Was the possibility that the explorer shows the correct value actually investigated or you just think it's a bug?
- Any reference or example where this bug elsewhere happened and shows negative balance?

And there is still no answer to a whole lot of valid questions, maybe you won't to take a look into them as well.

P.S.: IF this guy here posting and offending people en mass here with lowest street language is really your moderator on the telegram channel
and representing Verges views/spirit/interest, than you should think about what bad taste such behavour leaves associated with Verge.
Just as a thought and side note.

Lolololol. Offending normal people ( which i dont ) or FUDDers ( which i will always) like you? I give FUDders extra treatment. Get used to my offensive behaviour until you keep spreading fake shit and asking vague question again and again to prove your shitty thing.


What has boxalex said that is fake or FUD? Nothing that I see.

all of those questions have easy answers that anyone can check for themselves. the fact that someone that doesn't even like verge wants to have them handed to him says it all.

NO, the fact that you continue to deflect and twist facts says it all. Expected nothing less from you.

There are serious questions and concerns that there are additional attacks occurring in the form of double-spends, but you just don't seem to care. Wonder why.

The next attack will be invalidation of previous "good" transactions, if it isn't happening already.
jr. member
Activity: 126
Merit: 2
May 30, 2018, 12:01:51 PM
iquidus has alot of bugs. prohashing and other yiimp based explorers are far more accurate.

Just out of curiousity in case your statement here is indeed the case (and i have some doubts about it), but just in case.

- So why is Verge using the most bugged explorer for its own currency?
- What's the prupose of having an official explorer nobody can rely on?
- What explorer do you use than while doing your own research/investigation if the official Verge Explorer can't be trusted due it's bugs?
- Was the possibility that the explorer shows the correct value actually investigated or you just think it's a bug?
- Any reference or example where this bug elsewhere happened and shows negative balance?

And there is still no answer to a whole lot of valid questions, maybe you won't to take a look into them as well.

P.S.: IF this guy here posting and offending people en mass here with lowest street language is really your moderator on the telegram channel
and representing Verges views/spirit/interest, than you should think about what bad taste such behavour leaves associated with Verge.
Just as a thought and side note.

Lolololol. Offending normal people ( which i dont ) or FUDDers ( which i will always) like you? I give FUDders extra treatment. Get used to my offensive behaviour until you keep spreading fake shit and asking vague question again and again to prove your shitty thing.


What has boxalex said that is fake or FUD? Nothing that I see.

all of those questions have easy answers that anyone can check for themselves. the fact that someone that doesn't even like verge wants to have them handed to him says it all.

NO, the fact that you continue to deflect and twist facts says it all. Expected nothing less from you.

There are serious questions and concerns that there are additional attacks occurring in the form of double-spends, but you just don't seem to care. Wonder why.
newbie
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May 30, 2018, 12:01:11 PM

all of those questions have easy answers that anyone can check for themselves. the fact that someone that doesn't even like verge wants to have them handed to him says it all.

Could you please expand on the question i asked you previously?

Since the chain trust is only based on the length of the chain and not cumulated work, wouldn't it be quite easy to perform a double spend with much less than 51% hashrate?

On the original chain, send e.g. 10M XVG to an exchange.

While you wait for confirmations, start mining an alternative chain where you step down the difficulty by fakeing the timestamps. This should still be possible even though the maximum drift is changed to 10 minutes, it will just be somewhat slower. In this chain you include a transaction which invalidates your original transaction. Even if you only have e.g. 5% hashpower, your chain should eventually get longer than the original chain as it has much lower difficulty.

After you have converted the XVG to BTC on the exchange, you submit your privately mined chain to the network, and as it is longer than the original chain, it will cause the nodes to reorganize to your chain. Am I missing anything or would this be completly possible?
This would also make it possible to perform the attack with extremly limited ressources as you don't really have to compete with the honest miners.

that wouldn't work because the invalidation would also be accepted.

Could you expand on what you mean by the invalidation would also be accepted?

If you on your private chain sends the coins to yourself instead of the exchange, you will still own the coins when the network reorgs to your chain after you brodcasts your blocks.
legendary
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$XVG - The Standard in Crypto as a Currency!
May 30, 2018, 11:57:10 AM
iquidus has alot of bugs. prohashing and other yiimp based explorers are far more accurate.

Just out of curiousity in case your statement here is indeed the case (and i have some doubts about it), but just in case.

- So why is Verge using the most bugged explorer for its own currency?
- What's the prupose of having an official explorer nobody can rely on?
- What explorer do you use than while doing your own research/investigation if the official Verge Explorer can't be trusted due it's bugs?
- Was the possibility that the explorer shows the correct value actually investigated or you just think it's a bug?
- Any reference or example where this bug elsewhere happened and shows negative balance?

And there is still no answer to a whole lot of valid questions, maybe you won't to take a look into them as well.

P.S.: IF this guy here posting and offending people en mass here with lowest street language is really your moderator on the telegram channel
and representing Verges views/spirit/interest, than you should think about what bad taste such behavour leaves associated with Verge.
Just as a thought and side note.

Lolololol. Offending normal people ( which i dont ) or FUDDers ( which i will always) like you? I give FUDders extra treatment. Get used to my offensive behaviour until you keep spreading fake shit and asking vague question again and again to prove your shitty thing.


What has boxalex said that is fake or FUD? Nothing that I see.

all of those questions have easy answers that anyone can check for themselves. the fact that someone that doesn't even like verge wants to have them handed to him says it all.
jr. member
Activity: 126
Merit: 2
May 30, 2018, 11:52:22 AM
iquidus has alot of bugs. prohashing and other yiimp based explorers are far more accurate.

Just out of curiousity in case your statement here is indeed the case (and i have some doubts about it), but just in case.

- So why is Verge using the most bugged explorer for its own currency?
- What's the prupose of having an official explorer nobody can rely on?
- What explorer do you use than while doing your own research/investigation if the official Verge Explorer can't be trusted due it's bugs?
- Was the possibility that the explorer shows the correct value actually investigated or you just think it's a bug?
- Any reference or example where this bug elsewhere happened and shows negative balance?

And there is still no answer to a whole lot of valid questions, maybe you won't to take a look into them as well.

P.S.: IF this guy here posting and offending people en mass here with lowest street language is really your moderator on the telegram channel
and representing Verges views/spirit/interest, than you should think about what bad taste such behavour leaves associated with Verge.
Just as a thought and side note.

Lolololol. Offending normal people ( which i dont ) or FUDDers ( which i will always) like you? I give FUDders extra treatment. Get used to my offensive behaviour until you keep spreading fake shit and asking vague question again and again to prove your shitty thing.


What has boxalex said that is fake or FUD? Nothing that I see.
newbie
Activity: 42
Merit: 0
May 30, 2018, 11:40:15 AM
lets dump this malicious coin to 1 sat or lower .. may be dev exploiting the coin to make huge money

Go Ahead Smiley
newbie
Activity: 42
Merit: 0
May 30, 2018, 11:38:07 AM
iquidus has alot of bugs. prohashing and other yiimp based explorers are far more accurate.

Just out of curiousity in case your statement here is indeed the case (and i have some doubts about it), but just in case.

- So why is Verge using the most bugged explorer for its own currency?
- What's the prupose of having an official explorer nobody can rely on?
- What explorer do you use than while doing your own research/investigation if the official Verge Explorer can't be trusted due it's bugs?
- Was the possibility that the explorer shows the correct value actually investigated or you just think it's a bug?
- Any reference or example where this bug elsewhere happened and shows negative balance?

And there is still no answer to a whole lot of valid questions, maybe you won't to take a look into them as well.

P.S.: IF this guy here posting and offending people en mass here with lowest street language is really your moderator on the telegram channel
and representing Verges views/spirit/interest, than you should think about what bad taste such behavour leaves associated with Verge.
Just as a thought and side note.

Lolololol. Offending normal people ( which i dont ) or FUDDers ( which i will always) like you? I give FUDders extra treatment. Get used to my offensive behaviour until you keep spreading fake shit and asking vague question again and again to prove your shitty thing.
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