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September 28, 2024, 06:02:35 PM
It's a risk on it own to borrow money a d gambling with it, because for doing so you are already putting yourself under and intense position since at that point you will have two things to battle with, for first you have to Battle to stay off and pay off the debt, and secondly you be battling with the fact that gambling in itself is kind of pressure because of your anticipation to win the bet, and this on it own is another big issue.

So borrowing to gamble with is somewhat not an option at all, and regardless of what we think or do, gambling should already only be done using an amount of money that you can afford to lose and still be ok with, such that in no time you can move on with the fun of gambling.
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September 28, 2024, 05:52:58 PM
That's not a good habit that when you gamble is that the money you have gambled comes from the debt, because you seem to be driving yourself. Because we know that playing gambling is often the case often happens.

It would not have been a matter if you were in control of the games you would choose on a gambling casino platform, so not just because the house often wins and not the gambler player.
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September 28, 2024, 05:34:11 PM
With you knowing this elements, you won't bother to go to the extreme of borrowing money to gamble. So have you borrowed money to gamble? If you do please take notes of this and stop it.
Addicted gamblers know these things but still want to just go ahead and borrow money to gamble because some are unable to control themselves, and whenever the urge for gambling comes, they do not mind how they get the money to gamble; they just want the money to gamble.

Do not lend money to your friends who you know want to borrow money to gamble with; if you do so, you are promoting the bad habit that they are forming.
Even at this juncture admonition,some individuals are still not favourable with the responses and feedbacks that'll be received from gamblers and players.Borrowing money is like digging a hole for yourself and finding your way out forcefully.
The understanding that a lot of people have concerning gambling will be clearly and directly in line with the outcomes of your efforts;your mental inputs and emotional support.
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You are talking of a situation in which someone asked for a loan to gamble and still managed to turn it into profits, sure there will be cases like that in which it could be perceived asking for money in that way is worth it, but in my opinion the disadvantages outweigh the "advantages" which come from asking for liquidity when one does not have any.
People profiting from gambling is not a rule, they are the exception of the rule: house always wins. And for the house to win then mast gamblers are supposed to be unprofitable in the long term.

If stories like that one encourage you to ask for loans to gamble, then I must warn you, you could end up in a pretty bad situation and working for literal years in order to be even with your lender. Even big casinos like Stake are pretty clear and explicit on the importance of responsible gambling for their community, they have got a dedicated webpage for it.

Loans to gamble is the opposite of responsibility.
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They will have to swallow the hardest pill because soon they will come to realize that no man is an island, and they need someone's help.

With that, they will humble themselves to the friends that haven't tolerated them but instead given an advice on how they should deal with their addiction.

And saying that taking a loan for gambling is never been a good thing and it only going to cause more problems to their personal lives.

Yes, for gamblers who are greedy and addicted, their lives will definitely suffer because of the consequences of their wrong thinking patterns and behavior, and they immediately regret it and realize it when it is too late, namely that their lives often have problems continuously and they are unable to solve these problems quickly. Only then did he try to ask other people for help to ease the burden of problems in his life.
But will the other person want to help him because previously he was just ignored? obviously this is not possible.
It is clear that borrowing other people's loans is not recommended for gamblers and this should be avoided as much as possible by gamblers.

Well even I still believe that greedy gamblers can be saved, many people just have repulsive attitude towards gambling and their first instinct is to chase their loses when they feel they are losing, the solution to this is bankroll management, bankroll management can help even the gambling addict manage himself and his personal finance without having to result to extreme solution like borrowing extra money to gamble.

But the issue is that some persons won't listen and would only focus on playing more games, I've even over heard someone saying that someday would be his turn, so instead of stopping his continues gambling habits he uses the excuse to continue.

Borrowing money to gamble is not right and it's a sign thar you Don't understand money or respect your financial health, cause gambling is risky and is uncertain, its wring to borrow to gamble cause if you lose the money, you just got a debt to pay.
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Actually, there is no most effective trick to avoid gambling. If you get involved in their game, then you have fallen into their trap. If you are not ready, never start gambling. Everyone can suggest anything, any method to anticipate big losses, but if they have started gambling, and they experience continuous losses, two things are on their mind, namely hoping to win big and be able to get their previous money back; both high emotional levels that make him not ready to stop.
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If a person starts gambling with borrowed money, he will be in grave danger. It is easiest to gamble with the money he has available for gambling.So we all should never lend money to someone who gambles on a loan or is a drug addict. But everyone has gamblers among their friends who gamble with money from friends.


I do not believe I will ever support somebody who borrows money to gambling. Because the moment anyone develops that habit, that person is simply looking for ways to get themselves into trouble. I know some people will say, "What if the person with the borrowed money loses?" and my response is, "What if the person does not win? He or she must pay back with interest, and if the person is unable to pay, the person will involve the authorities." So that he can recover the money, because if you are unable to pay someone, legal action will be taken against them. Some people even go so far as to play games on debt, which is the ultimate level of addiction they are so carefree that they are willing to take risks at any cost, but when it comes to gambling, I believe we should be more cautious in order to avoid disaster. It is better to understand all this early than taking everything for jokes, and actually going to borrow.
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If a person starts gambling with borrowed money, he will be in grave danger. It is easiest to gamble with the money he has available for gambling.So we all should never lend money to someone who gambles on a loan or is a drug addict. But everyone has gamblers among their friends who gamble with money from friends.

I also quite agree that you recommend not lending money to gambling addicts or gamblers who are already addicted enough to gamble every day. But gamblers who know to prepare funds or money that will only be used for gambling are gamblers who are professional enough in sorting their funds. Because usually people like that know how to allocate their funds for anything, including gambling, so they won't be in any danger.

But for people who borrow money just to be able to gamble, I think that person is not a good gambler because let alone risking money into gambling through borrowing, bringing money into any business still doesn't necessarily make a profit. So that money borrowed from other people will only be really useful for work that is actually running and also has the potential for more profit, and that's not for gambling.
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One should not borrow money to gamble, gamble is a thing that one should do with his own personal money and the money a gambler should use to gamble is an amount that he can afford to lose. When a gambler borrows money to gamble and when he lose there will be no way to repay the loans because he has lost all the money. If borrows money it means that the person doesn't have any money with him, so when the person gambles with the money he borrowed it will be very much difficult to pay back like I said earlier. When we have the money to gamble we should do it and when we lose we should not chase our losses, no matter how big or how small we lose.

If a person starts gambling with borrowed money, he will be in grave danger. It is easiest to gamble with the money he has available for gambling.So we all should never lend money to someone who gambles on a loan or is a drug addict. But everyone has gamblers among their friends who gamble with money from friends.
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Borrowing to be able to gamble is bad and at same time good, I said this because I have seen where someone went to Borrow money to pay back with interest to be able to play game someone gave him in a dream mean while he doesn't have a strong means through which he will use to pay back, low and behold the game he played cut and the amount he Borrowed was so big for him and immediately the man fainted, this is putting oneself in a pressure which is not good and I have also seen where someone went also to borrow to pay back with interest when he doesn't have what to pay back with if the game doesn't play, after sometime someone rush to the man's house to tell him that his game has boom and right now the man is now a landlord, car owners, etc so it has advantage and disadvantage.
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I have already given here an example: you are in a company with friends in a casino, and one of them run out of money. What will you do? Let him stand and watch you having fun or gambling? Or lend him money for gambling. Which is, by posts here, a red flag, because person will use money for gambling and already is in a loss.

Nobody has answered it, but this is rather tricky situation. Borrowing money for gambling vs helping a friend. You can either make his life even worse, or feel uncomfortable for not helping.
If a friend runs out of money for other purposes I will give it to him but when he borrows for gambling I will not do it even if he begs.

It is certain that when borrowing money for gambling it will lose you will be complicated to collect back, even this becomes a fight of friends because of the problem of money that you used to lend, I always have the principle that money is very sensitive to negativity and gambling should not be with borrowed money.

Feeling uncomfortable, feeling bad with friends, feeling antagonized is a certainty in friendships where they can act even more aggressively than you.

You have answered judging it from negative point of view. What if that friend only ran out of money, that he took with him? Will you still not borrow him money, or simply share your deposit with him? I am replying because I would act differently. If we are together in casino, I wont let my friend just stand and watch. This does not look like friendship, if we are friend only until he has money. I would have taken risk of not receiving loan back. If this was a total stranger or a person I am barely familiar with, then yes, I wont borrow money. But for a friend, I am confident that loan will be returned.
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Indeed, when someone is addicted, it will be difficult to get out of it, and indirectly, of course, bad impacts will follow within a certain period of time which can endanger themselves and even endanger their own family.
I think I know the news you read, friend, but if you think about it, it's also the husband's fault for the gambling he did because he spent his own money, even his wife's money, because if it's like that and it's not stopped, of course the husband will also be even more brave to do it. doing things that are not appropriate, such as stealing or other things that harm other people, in relation to his wife, in my opinion, maybe he did this because he had lost his patience so he did this very surprising action.
I don't know whether to blame the wife or the husband, but what is clear is that it was the husband who had the starting point of the problem. If he could control himself by not gambling excessively, maybe everything would be fine, but unfortunately he dared to take actions that were detrimental to himself and others. This is a story that should be a lesson for us in the future not to gamble excessively, because the impact will involve other people like this case.

Yeah being a gambling addict is bad and can lead to all such of negative effects to ones lives, but honestly his wife went to far with the burning alive stuff . She knew right from time that her husband was an addict she would have atleast find away to help him fight against that gambling urge . Because money is something we can get back just by hard working and working smart, but lives is not something that one can get back once a person lives his taken the person is gone forever. So both where actually wrong expecially his wife's see went too far with her action.
I thought so too, even though it was clearly the husband who was at fault but this wife went too far by burning her husband alive. However, I honestly don't know how it will go, I only saw a poster depicting the couple with some words that did explain the bad effects of gambling, I'm actually a little curious about what will happen next about the case that happened recently and I think maybe the wife will also be punished for her excessive actions, but I don't know what is clear that the wife has run out of patience. What do you think of the wife?
Is it possible that the husband could still be alive and the wife would be the one to be punished more severely? Because of her overreaction. From this case we can take a lesson from the wife that patience has a limit, and take a lesson from the husband that addiction is not a good thing, especially if you have a family that clearly must be cared for.
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The problem is that, if gambling is something we should be having fun doing, and we are taking loan to do that then there is a mathematical error there. You shouldn't take a loan to do something "fun" that you will lose money on.
I just don't know what some people think before taking a loan. If you are taking a loan, then it should be for something reasonable and not for gambling. We know gambling is supposed to be for fun, then I don’t know why you have to be in debt just because you want to have fun, it's totally wrong. Why will you want to have fun, and after having fun, you will be looking for a way to pay back your loan? Maybe it’s just high time people started thinking before taking any action. When gambling, we should just have fun. Make sure we are not addicted to gambling, because addiction is what causes all those things.


No, I just feel like reacting to what you said here, and I want to make it very clear, those people that borrows money just to gamble are not gambling for fun, it's either they are already addicted, and the addiction is now playing his role in the persons life or the person in question is taking gambling as a means of making money, because their is no logic in borrowing money just to gamble, then you said that it for fun, that's bullshit, even someone that is stupid wouldn't borrow money to gamble for fun, so in essence is that, it's only someone that is addicted or someone that is gambling for survival that will do that.

Lastly, in gambling, it's stated very clearly that it's best to gamble an amount you can afford to lose, so when you took a loan just to gamble, that's shows that their is more to that actions than just fun, so it's all boils down to addiction or means of survival.
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Of course considering the desire to gamble as an emergency situation is a ridiculous mindset, however it can never be justified because it does not make sense, and the reason is clear that emergency situations to solve problems in life cannot be equated with not having money to finance gambling activities, because after all gambling is not an activity that should be prioritized, which is the reason I think it is clear that there is absolutely no certainty and guarantee whatsoever to end the session with a win, meaning defeat will always be a definite possibility at the end of the session when luck does not come.

I would say that borrowing money to gamble is creating two possible problems, firstly the annoyance or regret of losing when it turns out to be a losing result and secondly you need to repay the loan that you just lost because of the loss. And I would also say that the idea of borrowing money to gamble can lead to more serious problems, because the idea can lead to a “habit”, in the sense that when one day they don't have money to gamble then maybe they won't hesitate to borrow money, maybe even with a larger amount, which has the obvious impact that they will most likely be in debt and the problem can spread to those closest to them.
You're right, in a few words borrowing money is lending yourself to problems, I do not understand how a player gets so carried away by coins and allows himself to be lent money when he knows that it is money that he can lose very easily and quickly, then the best thing is to tighten your pants and have enough discipline to say no and that's it, that's what you have to do, otherwise if we get soft, things will get out of control and we will lose all our money and be left with nothing, these are the types of things that we should always see, the more things are kept right with money the better, if there is no control of money, everything goes down.


Borrowing money to gamble is a bigger problem in the sense that it doesn't affect only the player, his family gets to partake in resolving the loan disputes when time is due. Such gamblers mainly are not interested in becoming good players. All they wanted is making out a means of regularly staying in the game. Addiction is weird, but not compared to taking loans. Imaging treating an addicted player and at same time handling his loans. That's really a big trouble on the side of the gambler's family.

Gradually, the debt accumulates to a bigger amount that the gambler may not handle alone. Some players don't actually take this loan once. After losing out the first one, they'll rush to take another loan, until they are not eligible to collect loans again. The trouble comes from multiple loan sharks, thereby instigating suffering on the player's family members.

One of the worst things any human being can do is get into debt to gamble, that is something that should never be done, I personally have always said that to borrow money you have to be in a financial emergency and that you have to do it in order to get out of trouble, generally it is or should be for extreme things like medical emergencies, surgical operations, emergencies of this style, I think that should be the vision of this so that things happen and it can be said that it is for something worthwhile, that is how I see it, although I respect the decision of others, but I recommend not lending money to play in a casino.


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Someone sho is not discipline and can not control himself from gamble easily become addicted to gamble it's not because he is a gamble frick but it's because he can not control himself that's is why he is addicted to gamble. Sometimes we let greediness decides for us when we are gambling. When one gamble and lose greediness makes the person chase lose and chasing losses attracts more losses to a gambler.

It is true, based on the indiscipline of a gambler they cannot control themselves in playing especially if supported by such strong greedy behavior then the gambler will be easily attracted to the temptation in every gambling game they see in the casino.
And what will happen if it is allowed to drag on, it is clear that the loss they will get instead of making it easier to win will actually be closer to defeat.
A gambler's main enemy is his greediness. His more greediness will make him loser. Some times gamblers try to recover the lost money soon but the result is null. In such way he will become addicted. It is easy for people who gamble regularly to become addicted to gambling. They cannot control themselves at all. They will start borrowing money after losing their savings at some point. Thus their loan amount will increase. Gambling can be enjoyable if one does not consider it a source of income. Excessive gambling will increase the number of losses there than wins. A gambler must practice responsible gambling.

Totally agree with you, it is true that the main enemy of gamblers is greed if gamblers are very greedy in terms of luck in gambling then they easily do things that they should not do. And greed will clearly make gamblers experience changes in their lives that previously they played fairly but they will actually play more aggressively in pursuing their dreams of winning. By playing continuously, greedy gamblers will spend more money and in the end the money they have will disappear quickly and the shortcut they will take is to borrow money from other people in order to be able to gamble again.
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If a friend runs out of money for other purposes I will give it to him but when he borrows for gambling I will not do it even if he begs.

It is certain that when borrowing money for gambling it will lose you will be complicated to collect back, even this becomes a fight of friends because of the problem of money that you used to lend, I always have the principle that money is very sensitive to negativity and gambling should not be with borrowed money.

Feeling uncomfortable, feeling bad with friends, feeling antagonized is a certainty in friendships where they can act even more aggressively than you.

This action definitely has to be done because even though we as human beings basically have to help each other, we have to be able to see what we are going to help. Apart from that, we also have the right to refuse other people's requests for help if the thing they are asking for is not possible. good, but it will only make their life situation worse. Never mind other people who borrow money to gamble, I will not lend it even if the person borrowing it is my own sibling, because I think that apart from being detrimental to him, it will also be detrimental to me who doesn't gamble because gambling is not guaranteed to give him a win. who can cover all the losses that have occurred and with him who is not certain that he will be able to pay or repay the loan that he has made, and that will clearly make me lose, unless it is indeed borrowing money for something that is positive then I will not refuse it, but for gambling I would refuse without a second thought.

Indeed, I think everyone is sensitive to money, because even a family that was previously fine can be destroyed because of financial problems, even if it's not because of gambling. Apart from that, of course I think everyone has a sense of wanting to have more or greed and that can be in the form of anything, especially in the form of money, because money is one of the things that is quite important in life so everyone can be greedy because they want to have a lot of money. with those who are addicted to gambling and dare to borrow money to gamble, I think they are greedy, but they are doing the wrong thing, because what they are doing is something that is not certain to be profitable.
by the way "Feeling uncomfortable, feeling bad with friends, feeling hostile is a certainty in friendships where they can be more aggressive than you." I often feel this way, even outside of the issue being discussed.
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Someone sho is not discipline and can not control himself from gamble easily become addicted to gamble it's not because he is a gamble frick but it's because he can not control himself that's is why he is addicted to gamble. Sometimes we let greediness decides for us when we are gambling. When one gamble and lose greediness makes the person chase lose and chasing losses attracts more losses to a gambler.

It is true, based on the indiscipline of a gambler they cannot control themselves in playing especially if supported by such strong greedy behavior then the gambler will be easily attracted to the temptation in every gambling game they see in the casino.
And what will happen if it is allowed to drag on, it is clear that the loss they will get instead of making it easier to win will actually be closer to defeat.
This is beyond greed my friend, it is an addiction. If you are still greedy in gambling, thank your God, you can get out of it easily if you are wise, but if you are addicted, whether you are wise or not, it will control you so uglily until you find a cure (if there will ever be any). This is why you hear stories of gamblers doing unspeakable things like selling their properties to gamble or borrowing money for the purpose among others. Are these people sane in your opinion? No.

This is how you would know that it is beyond mere greed but an entangling situation that is psychological (addiction). Once we detect this in anyone close to us, we should never take it lightly, we should reach out to help in our little way or refer them to external help that is professional about it.
Addiction is no joke. The sickness is dangerous. It doesnt care if you're rich or poor, smart or not. It grips and holds on. And yes, it goes beyond greed. Greed is wanting more money, power, and possessions. Addiction is another matter. Your need, compulsion, and craving engulf you. Like unquenchable hunger.

Not that there's no hope. Far from it. But addiction recovery needs strength, courage, and lots of support. Its a hard path. The road is worth taking. Because freedom, tranquility, and a new life await those who overcome addiction. Dont give up on an addict friend. Help and show you care. It could save their lives. Dont be ashamed to seek for help. All of us need assistance sometimes.
Diving to the bottom with dependence occurs smoothly and is not noticeable to the player. Yes, he starts borrowing money, but at the same time he gives himself carte blanche to do this, as if it will help him recoup (no). The player is passionate and busy with the game, he tries to do things to win, but often forgets that luck decides who wins and who doesn’t, and his efforts, sleepless nights and other not entirely successful ideas do not give a real result. As a result, he finds himself at the bottom with his problem and whether he can get out of this bottom is a very big question.

And then a struggle is necessary, admitting that he has an addiction is a very important point that not everyone can cope with. Players should remember that lending money is a very serious check point at which we need to think about where we are, and not run around in a fit of rage and call all our friends just to get it back.
Gambling isnt bad but at the moment that you are already that borrowing funds or money just for you to gamble then this is a solid indicative sign that you are really that going into the path on gambling addiction.
We do know that once you've been shackled out with gambling addiction then it would really be that hard for you to get out.Im not saying that all would be getting addicted but huge percentage would really be definitely on such condition. This is the main reason on why gambling industry is really that profitable or revenue generating because there are tons of people who are really that dealing with it because of that money making opportunity. We do know that borrowing money should be avoided as much as possible but rather you should really be that completely stopping at the moment that your bankroll on that time had already depleted.

The main issue on why people do mess up their lives it is really just that because you had made out yourself having that kind of delusional approach towards gambling specially on thinking up on being rich.
This is why at the moment that they have lost the money they do have and still do wants to continue on playing just to pursue out that kind of target then you wouldnt really be that stopping so easily.
This is why on personal approach and views, then you should really just that know on how to control yourself because having that moderation would really be that always recommended.
We just need to remember that there is no need to borrow at all, but to play only with what is in our pocket and not to get into someone else’s pocket. I would even say that this is one of the most important moments on our journey when we first decided to borrow money. This seemingly insignificant action can bring negative results in the future, and come out again at the most inopportune moment. By the way, I know how far players will go and what incredible stories they can tell if only they are given money to play. And if few people believe the man, then many people lend money to the girl, because everyone thinks that girls are weaker, lie less and gamble less.
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I have already given here an example: you are in a company with friends in a casino, and one of them run out of money. What will you do? Let him stand and watch you having fun or gambling? Or lend him money for gambling. Which is, by posts here, a red flag, because person will use money for gambling and already is in a loss.

Nobody has answered it, but this is rather tricky situation. Borrowing money for gambling vs helping a friend. You can either make his life even worse, or feel uncomfortable for not helping.
If a friend runs out of money for other purposes I will give it to him but when he borrows for gambling I will not do it even if he begs.

It is certain that when borrowing money for gambling it will lose you will be complicated to collect back, even this becomes a fight of friends because of the problem of money that you used to lend, I always have the principle that money is very sensitive to negativity and gambling should not be with borrowed money.

Feeling uncomfortable, feeling bad with friends, feeling antagonized is a certainty in friendships where they can act even more aggressively than you.

It's also a good way in helping them to stop as after you failed them to lend your money you explain the reason, if that's really a friend or a close relatives where they can lend their ears and listen then they will act accordingly, though most of those who resort to this kind of desperate decision making, it will be tough to gain their attention as most of the time, due to addiction inside them, they are just finding ways to please their desire.

And moving back to the topic, if you don't want to add more with your financial problem, it's good to gamble with spare money an amount that you can afford to lose.
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I have already given here an example: you are in a company with friends in a casino, and one of them run out of money. What will you do? Let him stand and watch you having fun or gambling? Or lend him money for gambling. Which is, by posts here, a red flag, because person will use money for gambling and already is in a loss.

Nobody has answered it, but this is rather tricky situation. Borrowing money for gambling vs helping a friend. You can either make his life even worse, or feel uncomfortable for not helping.
If a friend runs out of money for other purposes I will give it to him but when he borrows for gambling I will not do it even if he begs.

It is certain that when borrowing money for gambling it will lose you will be complicated to collect back, even this becomes a fight of friends because of the problem of money that you used to lend, I always have the principle that money is very sensitive to negativity and gambling should not be with borrowed money.

Feeling uncomfortable, feeling bad with friends, feeling antagonized is a certainty in friendships where they can act even more aggressively than you.
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The problem is that, if gambling is something we should be having fun doing, and we are taking loan to do that then there is a mathematical error there. You shouldn't take a loan to do something "fun" that you will lose money on.
I just don't know what some people think before taking a loan. If you are taking a loan, then it should be for something reasonable and not for gambling. We know gambling is supposed to be for fun, then I don’t know why you have to be in debt just because you want to have fun, it's totally wrong. Why will you want to have fun, and after having fun, you will be looking for a way to pay back your loan? Maybe it’s just high time people started thinking before taking any action. When gambling, we should just have fun. Make sure we are not addicted to gambling, because addiction is what causes all those things.


Most of the community members in this forum are not in favor of borrowing money just for gambling. That means it's not really normal to gamble when you're in debt. In short,
nothing stops us from gambling, as long as no family is affected, and so on.

But when you hit something that can damage other things, I don't think it's really right, especially if you gamble every day, because it can't be considered a normal habit.
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