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Quote from: hedgeh0g on June 27, 2024, 06:05:51 AM

Of course, gambling establishments never care about the fact that children are protected from this, they just state everywhere that you cannot play under 18 years of age and that’s all.

The truth is that their is nothing they can do about it. Gambling company would always tell their customers to play responsibly and ask people who are below 18 not to make attempt to play, atleast they have let the public known they are not in support for young people to gamble.

If they never care about children they won't give these awareness to the public. Children who indulge their self into gambling it is not the fault of gambling companies because they can't do anything about it. It is our duty as parent, elderly ones to try not to allow the youngers one around us to get use to gambling. Gambling is just like alcohol and other things that are not meant for children, if children are not well Brought up they can have access to all these things, I don't think if a child have to do anything with these things the company will be hold responsible.

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Quote from: piebeyb on June 28, 2024, 09:49:44 AM

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If they know it is very unlikely that they will think about the consequences, because of course those who also have the desire can make them think that they can make money easily just by gambling, if that happens of course it is a bad start. So in my opinion, even though we don't gamble in front of children, it doesn't mean they won't know about it, but rather that they can find out on their own and the rest is up to them.

Yes, that's right, especially since all information can be accessed from the internet, so even though as parents we keep them away from gambling, they can learn it from the internet and seeing advertisements on their social media, I often see advertisements on my social media, of course that will also stick with them. The internet IP at my house and even my children will see the ad too because they use the same internet IP as me, so it's useless to filter it, in fact I might explain if in the end they ask about it that it's an unpleasant game.

Yes indeed the development of internet is unstoppable and we can see it now that people can access internet everytime and everywhere and the common of current parenting is people is more likely to give their childrens the gadgets and let their childrens to spend their time to playing games and access the internet and the negative effect from this behaviour is potentially the children probably know how to access gambling sites without their parents knowing because it's their natural to curious want know every new things in this world including how to gamble

Not gamble in the front of your kids indeed good but i think people should not let their childrens to free using their gadget because it can lead them to gets the information that they should not have known in time including gambling but in my opinion give their childrens the educations about positive or negative effects from gambling is really necessary because with this things the childrens will know the risk of gambling early

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Quote from: hedgeh0g on June 28, 2024, 03:50:57 PM

Of course, any games and time spent with younger brothers or sisters will affect their lives in the future. Often no one thinks about it, but older children are often told to look after the younger ones, because adults have a lot of work.

I know the danger in this and will not advise any married person or parents to leave their kids with older adults who are not themselves until the kids grow up to 18 before I allow them to start changing their environment and getting them to explore the world after you must have opened their brains with serious advises on how to leave indepently and what his limits are as a child of the house. Giving your children those tough discipline and showing them their boundaries will help to shape their character and reaction towards their immediate environment.

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Quote from: hedgeh0g on June 27, 2024, 06:05:51 AM

Of course, gambling establishments never care about the fact that children are protected from this, they just state everywhere that you cannot play under 18 years of age and that’s all.

I completely agree with you, because children really like to imitate adults and perceive all adult activities as something right, not realizing that their parents or brothers can often do something wrong or illegal.
Unfortunately, their older brothers are not always a good example, and later, when the younger brother grows up, it is difficult for him to get out of the gambling habit. Therefore, I want to encourage all readers to be a great example to your brothers and children.

Of course, any games and time spent with younger brothers or sisters will affect their lives in the future. Often no one thinks about it, but older children are often told to look after the younger ones, because adults have a lot of work. My older brothers also watched me when I was little, but then gambling was not widespread as it is now and I never saw them play. Perhaps this influenced me and I will never know how it would have influenced if they were making bets and I was watching it. But I definitely would have wanted to try it too, even though I didn’t know what to do there, especially considering the beautiful pictures and attractive music.

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Quote from: junder on June 28, 2024, 09:21:18 AM

If they know it is very unlikely that they will think about the consequences, because of course those who also have the desire can make them think that they can make money easily just by gambling, if that happens of course it is a bad start. So in my opinion, even though we don't gamble in front of children, it doesn't mean they won't know about it, but rather that they can find out on their own and the rest is up to them.

Yes, that's right, especially since all information can be accessed from the internet, so even though as parents we keep them away from gambling, they can learn it from the internet and seeing advertisements on their social media, I often see advertisements on my social media, of course that will also stick with them. The internet IP at my house and even my children will see the ad too because they use the same internet IP as me, so it's useless to filter it, in fact I might explain if in the end they ask about it that it's an unpleasant game.

At least don't force yourself too hard to keep it strictly with our children because maybe they can find out what gambling is out there, when they start asking questions then answer to avoid their next questions so close it with words that are easy for them to understand so they want to stay away from the game especially gambling, there is nothing fun in gambling and money cannot be earned easily just by gambling, everyone has to work or build a business to be able to make money instead of gambling, so say what really makes them understand without having to ask for the umpteenth time.

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Quote from: knowngunman on June 27, 2024, 05:31:45 AM

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as you said, they can search for it online without our knowledge or with us allowing it without any restrictions, of course that allows them to get to know and do it, so I think it's better to tell them first when they already have outside relationships.

I second this idea as well. Children of nowadays are very curious and can easily learn things even on their own. This gambling of a thing is not as bad as people are meant to believe in our society, it's our approach to it that makes it look bad. Children are supposed to be taught about it when they are at right stage to know than we allow them to find out themselves. In one way or another, they might find out about it no matter how keep it secret from them. It would be a disaster if they find out about it outside because they won't know it's consequences. As a parent, there is nothing wrong in educating your children on gambling and it's consequences when you do it too much with reference to how it has destroyed some people's life who did not control themselves while gambling. Some children are very stubborn and might want to try it out even if you paint it black, it's better to tell them the reality about gambling and how responsible gambling can be practiced.

It's true what you say, indeed gambling is not completely bad because if they do it in a healthy way and don't overdo it or don't overexert themselves in gambling, maybe there won't be any bad effects that will occur, unfortunately their approach to gambling is wrong so many of them experience losses. because of acute addiction. Children who are certainly familiar with gadgets and the internet can find out what they see, even if their parents don't tell them, but using gadgets can make it easier for them to find out what makes them curious. and after that it is up to them whether they will take gambling seriously or not take gambling seriously which allows them to ignore it.

If they know it is very unlikely that they will think about the consequences, because of course those who also have the desire can make them think that they can make money easily just by gambling, if that happens of course it is a bad start. So in my opinion, even though we don't gamble in front of children, it doesn't mean they won't know about it, but rather that they can find out on their own and the rest is up to them.

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Quote from: yudi09 on June 18, 2024, 09:34:10 AM

Quote from: Bravut on June 11, 2024, 08:47:51 AM

As a parents for the sake of living an exemplary life it would be highly beneficial not to gamble in front of your kids especially the growing ones, same time we should not hide or let our kids be ignorant about Gambling.

At a growing age, children respond very quickly to what they see and hear. I definitely agree because I experienced it myself at home as a father with children. So it's certainly not a good act to do something in front of them, especially gambling.
It is recommended to interact more with them naturally with touch that makes them close to us.
Our habit with them will be permanent although I don't dare to guarantee 100%.

Yes, when children are at an age when they are very fond of learning, they are very interested in doing things that they see others doing. Of course, every boy observes the activities and actions of his parents and tries to do them, so children always respond more to the actions of those close to them. That's why gambling in front of children is never a good thing. Every guardian should never discuss gambling and vices in front of their children so that they get used to it. For an ideal life, every parent should guide his children towards good deeds so that children do not get attracted to gambling.

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as you said, they can search for it online without our knowledge or with us allowing it without any restrictions, of course that allows them to get to know and do it, so I think it's better to tell them first when they already have outside relationships.

I second this idea as well. Children of nowadays are very curious and can easily learn things even on their own. This gambling of a thing is not as bad as people are meant to believe in our society, it's our approach to it that makes it look bad. Children are supposed to be taught about it when they are at right stage to know than we allow them to find out themselves. In one way or another, they might find out about it no matter how keep it secret from them. It would be a disaster if they find out about it outside because they won't know it's consequences. As a parent, there is nothing wrong in educating your children on gambling and it's consequences when you do it too much with reference to how it has destroyed some people's life who did not control themselves while gambling. Some children are very stubborn and might want to try it out even if you paint it black, it's better to tell them the reality about gambling and how responsible gambling can be practiced.

You're on point mate. Gambling is not as bad as the society deems it to be, and the only reason they have this conception of gambling being a bad influence to the society is because of the greed expressed by gamblers. Most gamblers would want to gamble more thinking luck can last forever, and they eventually loses everything and if greed still strikes in they can also borrow or sell some valuable properties in chasing their loss. It's important that we teach our children about gambling and give them enough reasons and fact why they shouldn't gamble for any reason. Though when we were still children we were adding gamble to games we play but we didn't know that we were actually gambling, our parents try to stop us from playing those games but all we could see was just having fun as children, though no monetary value was added but you can sell off your wins to a salon store and use the money to buy chocolate sweet. It was fun but little did we know that we were actually gambling and that also gave me an hedge to understand gambling better. If your children out of curiosity finds their way out and get exposed gambling by their peers, they will keep it from you and that could be disastrous.

it is people who does not have a strategies to participate in gambling that makes gambling to look as if one kind disastrous thing so from my own understanding of gambling when you have the procedures the strategies or the formats nobody work on them your action of being a gambler, another thing that is important in gambling is when you have a statistics of the way you operate towards gambling I think that we did that statistics people will not look down on you that you are a gambler it is the way we dress people will address US so from my own Theory we are supposed to make provision of days to participate in gambling and also know that gambling have advantages and disadvantages because it is the disadvantages people look onto to condemn gambling

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Quote from: knowngunman on June 27, 2024, 05:31:45 AM

Quote from: junder on June 27, 2024, 01:21:58 AM

as you said, they can search for it online without our knowledge or with us allowing it without any restrictions, of course that allows them to get to know and do it, so I think it's better to tell them first when they already have outside relationships.

I second this idea as well. Children of nowadays are very curious and can easily learn things even on their own. This gambling of a thing is not as bad as people are meant to believe in our society, it's our approach to it that makes it look bad. Children are supposed to be taught about it when they are at right stage to know than we allow them to find out themselves. In one way or another, they might find out about it no matter how keep it secret from them. It would be a disaster if they find out about it outside because they won't know it's consequences. As a parent, there is nothing wrong in educating your children on gambling and it's consequences when you do it too much with reference to how it has destroyed some people's life who did not control themselves while gambling. Some children are very stubborn and might want to try it out even if you paint it black, it's better to tell them the reality about gambling and how responsible gambling can be practiced.

You're on point mate. Gambling is not as bad as the society deems it to be, and the only reason they have this conception of gambling being a bad influence to the society is because of the greed expressed by gamblers. Most gamblers would want to gamble more thinking luck can last forever, and they eventually loses everything and if greed still strikes in they can also borrow or sell some valuable properties in chasing their loss. It's important that we teach our children about gambling and give them enough reasons and fact why they shouldn't gamble for any reason. Though when we were still children we were adding gamble to games we play but we didn't know that we were actually gambling, our parents try to stop us from playing those games but all we could see was just having fun as children, though no monetary value was added but you can sell off your wins to a salon store and use the money to buy chocolate sweet. It was fun but little did we know that we were actually gambling and that also gave me an hedge to understand gambling better. If your children out of curiosity finds their way out and get exposed gambling by their peers, they will keep it from you and that could be disastrous.

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Quote from: summonerrk on June 27, 2024, 05:24:23 AM

Yesterday I read an article about a gambler who confessed that he started gambling because as a child his father took him to the races, where this father bets on horses. After watching the excitement and periodic luck of his father, this guy remembered that horse racing is a fun event where there were a lot of emotions. Also, when the father won, he bought this guy goodies. In general, he remembered this type of gambling as something good and positive.
And of course, in the end, this guy grew up with a love of gambling. He didn't see anything wrong with playing casino games on weekends. And he was lucky! It was said in the interview that he was multiplying his salary. And it lasted for months. But then the luck ran out. And as you can guess, he got into debt. This is the natural ending of any uncontrolled gambling craze.

Their is always dangers in everything, and for the child to gamble he must have watch is father win, if not for that the father was having wins am sure he would have stated that his father was struggling with but their was excitement that means the man would have been making money. I don’t think that I know more about horse betting but I think that is going to be very risky because it is difficult to predict in horse races the only thing you need to focus on will be to pray for luck. And that is why everyone have to be careful with bets like horse betting anything racing too. When you make money from gambling you won’t want to stop because the money you are making from there won’t make you stop.

I don’t remember my dad gambling but naturally gambling is something I enjoy so much I discovered on my own, and if luck is not longer on your side then it is better to just let it go because you won’t be benefiting rather you will be losing not everyone gambling will favor so if it does not favor you then just let it go, not to cause more problems for your self.

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In Russian we have such a phrase "awared, warned". Imho that would be the best thing to do in connection with kids and gambling. It would be strange not to do that, but rather gamble secretly. It is strange that people in the beginning suggested to hide act of gambling, instead of explaining. For example, when we tell kids about fire, we warn them that it hurts, and we dont show them how it burns and hurts. Kids understand that and dont put their hand into fire. We do not follow "never make fire in front of kids" thing. Strange that only now, people start to understand that hiding or gambling secretly, or not gambling in front of them is not a solution.

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Parents must guided their children more but don't make a strict rules for them because they will not accept it and can becomes rebel to their parents. I already see many children not obey their parents and choose to be close to their friends which can gives a bad effect to them.

Yeah, that is a rather modern problem between children and parents. I have written before, that there must be sort of a respect between children and parents. Otherwise the kid win trust and listen what he was said. That is also why hiding gambling activity wont work. Because kid notice parents gamble, he wont understand why they can, but he cant do it. I can not stop repeating, that talking and explaining are the keys of parenting.

Parents can teach how their children respest to their parents so their children will not against their parents in anything. Respects to their parents is not like afraid doing something but it is like how they can close with their parents so parents and children can trust and listen each other so they can have better relationships.

It needs very long discussion to talks about parenting more details and that needs awareness from parents that they have children that can doing what their parents do. Parents can keep playing gambling but not with their children arounds them so their children will not do the same things as their parents.

Summarily, I believe you are right and it could only mean that parents should connect to their children, which is a very good thing to do instead of the many ways they are handling situations which will not still be so objective or result in the right solution. One of the major reasons why children go haywire and are susceptible to much of bad influences is because parents take the wrong path in dealing with them. This way, the children will always be hiding vital information from them. But in the situation where the parents connect with the children, advise them nicely and educate them where applicable instead of scolding or being cruel to them, the end is always good as the children will not be distancing themselves from such parents which will never cause later issues for both party, especially if the children have reached some certain adult age that needs the best guidance possible.

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Quote from: hedgeh0g on June 27, 2024, 06:05:51 AM

Of course, gambling establishments never care about the fact that children are protected from this, they just state everywhere that you cannot play under 18 years of age and that’s all.

I completely agree with you, because children really like to imitate adults and perceive all adult activities as something right, not realizing that their parents or brothers can often do something wrong or illegal.
Unfortunately, their older brothers are not always a good example, and later, when the younger brother grows up, it is difficult for him to get out of the gambling habit. Therefore, I want to encourage all readers to be a great example to your brothers and children.

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Quote from: summonerrk on June 27, 2024, 05:24:23 AM

Yesterday I read an article about a gambler who confessed that he started gambling because as a child his father took him to the races, where this father bets on horses. After watching the excitement and periodic luck of his father, this guy remembered that horse racing is a fun event where there were a lot of emotions. Also, when the father won, he bought this guy goodies. In general, he remembered this type of gambling as something good and positive.
And of course, in the end, this guy grew up with a love of gambling. He didn't see anything wrong with playing casino games on weekends. And he was lucky! It was said in the interview that he was multiplying his salary. And it lasted for months. But then the luck ran out. And as you can guess, he got into debt. This is the natural ending of any uncontrolled gambling craze.

My father was a gambler too but not with horse racing, it's the cock fighting. Every Sunday's he will be in the cockpit to bet for his preferred rooster although he didn't bring me there because kids aren't allowed in the area.
But whenever his rooster has a practice match against another rooster of his friend, he brings me there to see if I enjoy it. I don't. That kind of gambling is not my type of game. Animals killing each other is not my forte and it looks sad for me. Also, the odds given are like robbery. I have not seen a bet that went up to x2.00. Most of the time it's x1.85 downward because of the tax and other things that they take from you.
I can say I have not learned about casino gambling with my father, it's more because of my friends and other relatives.

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Quote from: junder on June 27, 2024, 01:21:58 AM

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If you don't want to explain more deepre about whatever you do with your devices then better to have that place inside your house that will not allow them to see you, it's true that they can easily imitate you by just watching you with what you are doing, especially now that the technology is really helping them to reach whatever they needed to learn.

At that young age they can search online especially if you allow them without any restrictions,.

I'm sure that even though parents hide the activities they do so that they don't see them, current social interactions can also make them aware of these activities, so when this happens they will hide from each other the activities they do. maybe we should open a conversation to advise them not to fall into the wrong thing even if we do it, by telling them maybe it could make them not do it even though outside interactions could make them do it but with the direction that has been given it could be a consideration for them not to do things that are wrong or harmful to themselves. because when they know and do it, they will definitely hide it, it is impossible for them to tell openly about what they did, even if they managed to get a win that could make them have a certain amount of money. because gambling is certainly an activity that is quite hostile among society.

as you said, they can search for it online without our knowledge or with us allowing it without any restrictions, of course that allows them to get to know and do it, so I think it's better to tell them first when they already have outside relationships.

Agree with you, anyway one day it will definitely be revealed by itself whether it is intentional or unintentional and as a parent if giving good advice or guidance is an obligation so that their children do not fall into the wrong path.
Indeed, now there are many children who are good at seeking knowledge themselves through social networks without the knowledge of their parents can freely access and even hide these activities.
Moreover, if the child hears or sees his parents also like to gamble, then it is certain that the child will also follow in his footsteps.

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Quote from: summonerrk on June 27, 2024, 05:24:23 AM

Yesterday I read an article about a gambler who confessed that he started gambling because as a child his father took him to the races, where this father bets on horses. After watching the excitement and periodic luck of his father, this guy remembered that horse racing is a fun event where there were a lot of emotions. Also, when the father won, he bought this guy goodies. In general, he remembered this type of gambling as something good and positive.
And of course, in the end, this guy grew up with a love of gambling. He didn't see anything wrong with playing casino games on weekends. And he was lucky! It was said in the interview that he was multiplying his salary. And it lasted for months. But then the luck ran out. And as you can guess, he got into debt. This is the natural ending of any uncontrolled gambling craze.

Most often, they become gamblers because there was another successful gambler nearby who showed how well he earns on gambling. Usually, at the same time, he also says that permanent work is bad, because you can only earn stress there, but gambling is a great activity where you can do almost nothing and get rich. But free cheese is only in a mousetrap, and there are no easy ways to get rich unless you have a great insider friend. Or a rich father. By the way, the father from this article that you described is not very smart, since he took his son to the races.

The successful gaming experience that children and adolescents observe from the outside is a driving force for their future. This is what will make them play, I'm sure of it. For example, if the older brother, who grows up with the younger one, shows him how to play gambling, then he will definitely start playing it. Parents very often do not have time to care for their children because they are busy at work to feed their family. Therefore, not only parents can set a bad example by playing gambling games, but also other close relatives.

After this, I want to say that if in life you see children watching an advertisement or a neighbor guy showing them how to play this, you need to stop it immediately so that it does not have an impact on their consciousness in the future.

Of course, gambling establishments never care about the fact that children are protected from this, they just state everywhere that you cannot play under 18 years of age and that’s all.

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Quote from: summonerrk on June 27, 2024, 05:24:23 AM

Yesterday I read an article about a gambler who confessed that he started gambling because as a child his father took him to the races, where this father bets on horses. After watching the excitement and periodic luck of his father, this guy remembered that horse racing is a fun event where there were a lot of emotions. Also, when the father won, he bought this guy goodies. In general, he remembered this type of gambling as something good and positive.
And of course, in the end, this guy grew up with a love of gambling. He didn't see anything wrong with playing casino games on weekends. And he was lucky! It was said in the interview that he was multiplying his salary. And it lasted for months. But then the luck ran out. And as you can guess, he got into debt. This is the natural ending of any uncontrolled gambling craze.

I hope people wont judge whole industry and all kids/parents relationships only by this one article and one situation.

What I find strange, that whole "adult gambling career" lasted only for months, until he got into troubles. That is not an addiction that you carry out from childhood. If it was an addiction, then he must have been gambling all the time, not those "months". For me this looks like a guy had good and bad moments in gambling, but as usually, he ended with finding a person to blame for his unluck and debt. And it was father who took him to horse races.

However, we dont know much about his father. It is easy to discuss it now, when everything is done, but we dont know if father explained him consequences of gambling, or only stimulated interest to it by buying goodies?

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Quote from: summonerrk on June 27, 2024, 05:24:23 AM

Yesterday I read an article about a gambler who confessed that he started gambling because as a child his father took him to the races, where this father bets on horses. After watching the excitement and periodic luck of his father, this guy remembered that horse racing is a fun event where there were a lot of emotions. Also, when the father won, he bought this guy goodies. In general, he remembered this type of gambling as something good and positive.
And of course, in the end, this guy grew up with a love of gambling. He didn't see anything wrong with playing casino games on weekends. And he was lucky! It was said in the interview that he was multiplying his salary. And it lasted for months. But then the luck ran out. And as you can guess, he got into debt. This is the natural ending of any uncontrolled gambling craze.

Most often, they become gamblers because there was another successful gambler nearby who showed how well he earns on gambling. Usually, at the same time, he also says that permanent work is bad, because you can only earn stress there, but gambling is a great activity where you can do almost nothing and get rich. But free cheese is only in a mousetrap, and there are no easy ways to get rich unless you have a great insider friend. Or a rich father. By the way, the father from this article that you described is not very smart, since he took his son to the races.

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Quote from: junder on June 27, 2024, 01:21:58 AM

as you said, they can search for it online without our knowledge or with us allowing it without any restrictions, of course that allows them to get to know and do it, so I think it's better to tell them first when they already have outside relationships.

I second this idea as well. Children of nowadays are very curious and can easily learn things even on their own. This gambling of a thing is not as bad as people are meant to believe in our society, it's our approach to it that makes it look bad. Children are supposed to be taught about it when they are at right stage to know than we allow them to find out themselves. In one way or another, they might find out about it no matter how keep it secret from them. It would be a disaster if they find out about it outside because they won't know it's consequences. As a parent, there is nothing wrong in educating your children on gambling and it's consequences when you do it too much with reference to how it has destroyed some people's life who did not control themselves while gambling. Some children are very stubborn and might want to try it out even if you paint it black, it's better to tell them the reality about gambling and how responsible gambling can be practiced.

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Yesterday I read an article about a gambler who confessed that he started gambling because as a child his father took him to the races, where this father bets on horses. After watching the excitement and periodic luck of his father, this guy remembered that horse racing is a fun event where there were a lot of emotions. Also, when the father won, he bought this guy goodies. In general, he remembered this type of gambling as something good and positive.
And of course, in the end, this guy grew up with a love of gambling. He didn't see anything wrong with playing casino games on weekends. And he was lucky! It was said in the interview that he was multiplying his salary. And it lasted for months. But then the luck ran out. And as you can guess, he got into debt. This is the natural ending of any uncontrolled gambling craze.

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