Topic: New 400 BTC Bounty Pales Roger Ver's 37.6 BTC Bounty for Return of Stolen BTC - page 10. (Read 18345 times)

Roger Ver's user name is MemoryDealers on this forum, but he's not part of the InstaWallet scam I 99% believe. If I learnt otherwise, I'll have no qualms with draggin' his good name (so far that statement is relatively true) through the mud.

Roger Ver is one of the few I've opted to not dig that deeply into. Others include, theymos (don't ask me why), the BitPay gain (because I like and trust them to date), Erik Voorhees (think he's cool), Dank (not worth it), Goat (albeit, he would be the first on this short list I would spend time looking into), Gavin Andresen (still have some trust for him), Rassah (a person I consider be highly trustworthy), and most the other mods on this forum, albeit not sure about John K. Apologies if I left your good name off this list, but wanted to keep it short to give you folks an idea as to where I'm honestly coming from.

At one time, I regard InstaWallet to the highest esteem... until they fucked me royal.

~Bruno Kucinskas

That deal is now off the table due to Lemon Way deleting their tweet(s) expressing interest in obtaining bitcoins three days prior to the InstaWallet "hack" because I now honestly believe they, too, are hiding shit. The new deal is $100K USD via BTC with a very favorable bounty in place for anybody willing and able to act as a liaison to this fiasco, with Rassah acting as escrow if such is warranted, him earning at least $1K USD for his efforts.

If/when another can of worms manifests themselves, I'll up any arbitrary deal even higher. Either way, Paymium, et al. has a lot to lose, and I'm more than willing to help them lose it.

~Bruno Kucinskas

I've read The Art of War three times, albeit when I was much younger. Time to give it another read. I love that book, right up there with Prisoner's Dilemma by William Poundstone.

Phinn:

It seems pretty clear that Davout (claims) to not have enough information for the balances you claim. I would think you have two options:

a) Provide Davout additional information about the deposits (tx id or deposit address) that funded your instawallet account.
b) Find a lawyer and take legal action.

If you cannot provide the additional information he requests, if the information does not help Davout or for some other reason he does not pay out, then your only option is legal action.

My settlement will now be a minimum of $100K USD via BTC, NO LONGER ONLY $50K USD via BTC.

You now fuckin' tell me these fucks at Paymium and Lemon Way have nothing to hide.

https://twitter.com/lemonway/status/316873425778012160



https://twitter.com/lemonway



There is no motherfuckin' way in hell that Lemon Way would have a reason to delete their tweet requesting where they - Sebastien Burlet - could obtain bitcoins three days prior to the InstaWallet "hack" unless they are in on Paymium's scheme.

If the tweet was nothing but mundane, then why delete it after it's been up for over a year, but rid it only after I brought attention to it about a month back? By all accounts, I shouldn't be on Lemon Ways RADAR, but I guess I am, either via their own eyes or from Paymium, et al.

I suggest that Paymium best get this episode behind them ASAP, otherwise ANY plans they have in France or the European theatre pertaining to Bitcoin is going Bye-Bye, and that's not a threat. By the time I get done with you assholes, you'll pay out more than 1,132 BTC equivalent to your French lawyers to defend the charges I'll continue to make via the various internet options at my disposal, and I'll use my real name when I do such. Not to mention the moneys you're going to lose over and beyond lawyer fees. And, I almost forgot to mention future VC funding of the likes of Galitt.

https://angel.co/paymium



https://angel.co/galitt/followers



http://bensonsamuel.com/bitcoin-3/bitcoin-goes-to-cartes-2012-paymiums-newest-offering/


Must be nice to receive $400K USD in funding to back your 4 entities, of which only 1 entity remains - Bitcoin-Central - of which is backed by a bank named Lemon Way which inquired about how to obtain bitcoins via a tweet three days prior to InstaWallet's "hack" and only has some fuckin' app as their claim-to-fame. I guess one needs to be French to get in on this wonderful action.

Full Disclosure: I've only begun to dig into these lying pieces of shit, and can't wait to share with the world the dirt I'd uncover on these bastards.

Continue with your motherfuckin' lies, davout/David François, for they'll be your Waterloo (almost injected 'bane', but my hole-in-head brain kicked into high gear at the last second).

~Bruno Kucinskas

The fact that you lost this many BTC makes me sick to my stomach.   That is so much to lose, no matter how much you have...

Am I wrong here or is it incredibly arrogant to expect people to accept your word at face value that there are no matches to Bruno's wallets?

Davout may very well be completely innocent, but how can anyone expect people to believe that at face value with no other evidence?

If I'm off base here, let me know, because I just don't see it.

What jurisdiction is this guy in?

First I think both Phin and Davout are eminent bitcoiners and should get the credit/respect they desserve.

However, PG's claim isnt new. He was the only one claiming that those 1k+ BTC belong to him up to now and had put tremendous efforts and time to try to get it back since Instawallet went down. I know davout and PG arent besties but they should be reasonable enough to put an end to this whole story for the sake of Phin's health and Davout's businesses, at the very least.

Bury the axe, settle down and move on.

They way I understood it is that there is more than 40k BTC waiting to be refunded to Instawallet's users that can come up with some more proof, which may just be impossible to get. So if they dont, what will happen with those funds? Instawallet's owners will just keep it all?! That just doesnt sound right.

Dont make this case another Mtgox scandal which would harm Bitcoin in general (and especially in France since davout & folks represents it in here).

PG's reputation and efforts to denounce bitcoin heists & abuses in general should account for his sincereness and legitimacy in this whole drama.

Peace, luv... and bitcoins!

I've already put a lot of pressure on them sans a bounty. Now, with this effort out in the open, Bitcoin-Central, et al. is going to get a looking into.

Yeah, it is unrealistic to assume someone is going to steal the btc. I was just addressing your hypothetical about the incentive for the person to give Bruno back his money rather than just keep it all for himself.

So after reading the chat log Davout claims that there is no address for two of the three that Bruno gave him. What was the point of having an audit if not to have the auditor as an impartial source do the searching themselves and make a statement reflected the lack of associated address. At this point it's just Davout's word saying there's nothing there versus Bruno's. For this amount of money there really should be an independent source confirming these things.

Regardless of whether Davout is guilty or he genuinely can not locate any funds related to any of the information given to him by Bruno, for Davout's own sake as a professional who obviously intends to continue his career in bitcoin, he should have these things confirmed independently. Personally, it would be my first priority to remove all doubt as to my involvement with Bruno's claim by having an audit. Otherwise you're only left with two possibilities, one being Davout being completely unable to find any link to Bruno's claimed funds, or an opportunistic theft where the evidence is completely controlled by Davout and there's no definitive way to determine guilt. Why make people wonder?

Definitly made my day  

Well, seems like a complex story with complex evidences.
Phinnaeus Gage , if those coins really belongs to you, I hope you'ill take them back and get davout recognized as a scammer.
If not, I hope davout will offer a counter bounty of 401 BTC to shut your mouth down for false accusations. ' Cause heh, reputation is everything in the small bitcoin ecosystem ..
Good luck to the truth teller among you guys  

400 BTC is approximately a third of the 1,132 BTC they stole from me, that is how.

The only reason I can think of them not hiding is because they may feel they can get away with their crime. Hell, they just recently shut down InstaWallet's site in spite of owing ~20K non-customers their bitcoins. These fucks are totally brazen.

Somehow, I missing the terms of said deal. Link please.

I've received a few PMs and emails from those suggesting violence, of which I'm not advocating, and that's not what I'm offering the 400 BTC bounty for.

These French fucks wanted to play by their rules from the get-go, but now it's time they play by mine.

Boussac claimed that there was more than one auditor (not liquidator) working on the case, whereas davout claimed there was only one auditor (not liquidator) involved. Except at the very onset of the InstaWallet fiasco, a liquidator was only brought up briefly by some others until most realized that Paymium, et al. was in full control of the situation, promising to return everybody's bitcoins. To date, only >1K users have been satisfied outta the ~20K users Boussac/davout claimed to have claims against IW having ~3M users, presumably mostly inactive, but definitely ~20K active accounts according to their accounts.

This is pretty interesting. And it's really funny how these hackers think they are hard asses but back down when the tables are turned on them. 20K in Bitcoin is a hefty sum to bring the guy back to his senses and make him back down.

We can imagine another story.
Suppose the bad guy is an honest one. I can't imagine how he could get BTC from davout without threatening him or doing illegal stuffs...
Even if "Bad guy" give back the money, it's certain that he'll will have a lot of problems with justice while the "backer" (I'm not sur it's the good word) will be drinking a Martini at home...

The best way is to sue Davout if he's the real thief.

Well it's not up to dudes...females jump on them and do what needs to be done.

You mean to tell me these dudes are capable of breeding?

I understand what you are saying with the first point but some people would still give him his money out of a sense of justice. Maybe not many people. But some.

With the second point. If his urls were leaked then there should be blockchain evidence of someone removing the 1000++ btc away from addresses that are controlled by instawallet. It sounds like the wallets related to this event have ~1300 btc in them if I'm understanding Bruno's posts correctly.

Has Davout posted evidence of the 1000 btc wallet having that btc moved from the wallet before instawallet was shut down?