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Topic: [NEW CURRENCY] Maria 2.0 was banned, here is her proof. The birth of Bytecoin! - page 12. (Read 106441 times)

legendary
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It's not stable, no exchange, etc.
legendary
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But no one is mining.

You have the capability to mine.  May I ask why you are not?
legendary
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newbie
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Those who have Bytecoins should mine it. It is that simple. Difficulty is high, but not that high. Actually it is really low in comparing to bitcoin.
If noone wants to mine, than it is doomed.
If someone mines - than it will survive even asic raids. We only need to wait until asics are really available to public, until then, there will be spikes...

So I vote not to merge-mine it. Just mine it!
legendary
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I'm not entirely sure. I think it's c++. Take a look at the code this guy started https://github.com/knotwork/Mergecoin
sr. member
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aka 7Strykes
Interesting question. If I was to develop such a patch, what language(s) would it have to be in. C++?
legendary
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sr. member
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Merit: 250
aka 7Strykes
legendary
Activity: 2912
Merit: 1060
sr. member
Activity: 266
Merit: 250
aka 7Strykes
I am prob a top 5 holder in bytecoins and I def support forking the chain if it will encourage more mining. It's pretty obvious something needs to be done, and quickly

How much mining capability do you have?


I believe you are asking about his hashrate, right?
legendary
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I am prob a top 5 holder in bytecoins and I def support forking the chain if it will encourage more mining. It's pretty obvious something needs to be done, and quickly

How much mining capability do you have?
legendary
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Thank you. Soon you won't even be able to make a transaction without new blocks.
full member
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I am prob a top 5 holder in bytecoins and I def support forking the chain if it will encourage more mining. It's pretty obvious something needs to be done, and quickly
sr. member
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aka 7Strykes
Well the way the Bitcoin merged mining patch works is that it makes Bitcoin the master blockchain. We need to develop the Bytecoin merged mining patch to be the slave. NOTE the original Bytecoin blockchain will exist and won't go away. We just need to tie into the Bitcoin chain for it to work. We can't use Bitcoin code because things tie into it. We don't want things to tie into Bytecoin, we want to tie into Bitcoin. Understand?

And for the rules that need to be changed, I believe it is just a different way of requesting work and verifying blocks and adding blocks to the blockchain.
sr. member
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Bytecoin: 8VofSsbQvTd8YwAcxiCcxrqZ9MnGPjaAQm
What rules need to change to make merged mining possible?  Why is it not possible with plain Bitcoin code?
sr. member
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Merit: 250
Bytecoin: 8VofSsbQvTd8YwAcxiCcxrqZ9MnGPjaAQm
Honestly as a non developer why do you care? You'll never understand it. I don't either.

I care deeply about the issue and want to continue with a pristine fork of Bitcoin like Bytecoin.  Like many Bitcoin users, I don't want the rules changed out from under me.  If you would like me to come along with you on a rules change, I'll need to understand it.

And I am a developer and quite capable of understanding if I get information.

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But you need to grow up and stop being scared of things just because you don't know how they work.

I don't like being talked to like that.
legendary
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sr. member
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aka 7Strykes
Honestly the only values that you should care about in this situation are: security, stability, usability, and activity. Security, Stability, and Usability of the coin will all remain the exact same. They WILL NOT change. Usability will expand though, to allow for a broader mining network. Usability of the coin will also expand, as more people will mine on the network, expanding its speed, making it more secure, more usable, and transactions will finish and confirm faster. Really this is the best thing that has happened to Bytecoin.
legendary
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Honestly as a non developer why do you care? You'll never understand it. I don't either. But you need to grow up and stop being scared of things just because you don't know how they work.

I stopped mining. We only had two blocks today. Do you know what that means? It means you can barely even send a transaction. And getting mined blocks to confirm will take months.
sr. member
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Bytecoin: 8VofSsbQvTd8YwAcxiCcxrqZ9MnGPjaAQm
I understand the basics of how merged mining works.  The detail I am missing is what has to change in the code to make merged mining possible, and why does that preclude continuing with the existing block chain?

In order to change the way the code works, the blockchain needs to be forked. It seems you don't know entirely what the purpose of the blockchain is. Not only is the blockchain a ledger, but it is also a reflection of the bytecoin daemon that we all run (bytecoind). When we change bytecoind, we no longer comply to the set of instructions and rules that the current blockchain is on, so when we mine our own blocks, they are mined with new code in a new bytecoind, and since other people don't have that bytecoind, they will continue along with their own blockchain. Until most of the network switches over, there would be two different blockchains. Do you understand?

Tl;dr to change the coin, we need to change our software (bytecoind file specifically), which would change the blockchain.

I understand what the blockchain is.  I don't understand what rules need to change to make merged mining possible.
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