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legendary
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Or it could be that this bear market impacts their finances but we don't know what their plans are. Besides, if they had other plans, they would do something to provide further information in their ANN.
Even there's no bear market, we've seen some campaigns that do have ran only for a week or two and that's unlikely going to hit success. But if they don't like the impact that a campaign they've ran, they should be active at all times and focus on their ANN threads so that the interaction between them and the community remains intact through it.
Once you do make yourself doesnt have much interaction with the community even having no campaign, being active on your ANN thread would really might do but of course there is really significant differences if we do compare out when you are launching a campaign but we know that not all companies does have the huge budget on running a long term campaign thats why they do really end up on
running 1-2 weeks which majority been saying that it wont really be that enough on seeing positive results.

This is also depending on what kind of site you do have, whether it is really good looking or giving out good games then you do have high chance or odds
on succeeding but of course it wont really be guaranteed as always.
When I'm hovering to the threads in the gambling section, those that have an active support is likely conversing potential customers and that's why it is an important asset to the casino that can't focus in campaign.

But it is better if they have both of it.

A long running campaign and a support that is conversing with the community, that will change the effect of the result that they're longing to see positively.
Having both would be much preferable which is something a business should considerate on the first place.You can spread up awareness and at the same time it would give out good impression
that your support or staff is active specially into this forum since there are lots of people whom do really actively giving out questions and queries in regarding on the new site.
Speaking about budget for signature campaign then it would vary and some do run out 1 week for some test out but just like the rest been saying
that this wont really be enough.
hero member
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Or it could be that this bear market impacts their finances but we don't know what their plans are. Besides, if they had other plans, they would do something to provide further information in their ANN.
Even there's no bear market, we've seen some campaigns that do have ran only for a week or two and that's unlikely going to hit success. But if they don't like the impact that a campaign they've ran, they should be active at all times and focus on their ANN threads so that the interaction between them and the community remains intact through it.
Once you do make yourself doesnt have much interaction with the community even having no campaign, being active on your ANN thread would really might do but of course there is really significant differences if we do compare out when you are launching a campaign but we know that not all companies does have the huge budget on running a long term campaign thats why they do really end up on
running 1-2 weeks which majority been saying that it wont really be that enough on seeing positive results.

This is also depending on what kind of site you do have, whether it is really good looking or giving out good games then you do have high chance or odds
on succeeding but of course it wont really be guaranteed as always.
When I'm hovering to the threads in the gambling section, those that have an active support is likely conversing potential customers and that's why it is an important asset to the casino that can't focus in campaign.

But it is better if they have both of it.

A long running campaign and a support that is conversing with the community, that will change the effect of the result that they're longing to see positively.
legendary
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When it comes to campaigns of new casinos, they're mostly about initial recognition. The traffic is always the highest in the first few days of displaying a banner, then it slows down and for businesses that run their campaigns for a long time, like the one in my signature, it's more about maintaining the status and showing that they're still doing fine. From the first goal of showing themselves their goal turns more into maintaining a foothold so that the space doesn't get taken over by competition.

I don't think bear market has anything to do with the length of campaigns. Many past campaigns were shutting down in bull markets.

As for merit requirement, don't worry. Sometimes it takes many weeks before you get a campaign but then it can be a year or more before it ends, so if you're a frequent poster it's worth the wait.
hero member
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I thought maybe the casinos had their own promotion plans so they decided to stop their signature campaign. Or it could be that they want to see how people react because I think if they see good results, they will continue to promote using signature campaigns.
It could be but most likely, they don't see the result that they wanting to have but a week run isn't really enough and will not show the results that they want.

Or it could be that this bear market impacts their finances but we don't know what their plans are. Besides, if they had other plans, they would do something to provide further information in their ANN.
Even there's no bear market, we've seen some campaigns that do have ran only for a week or two and that's unlikely going to hit success. But if they don't like the impact that a campaign they've ran, they should be active at all times and focus on their ANN threads so that the interaction between them and the community remains intact through it.
Once you do make yourself doesnt have much interaction with the community even having no campaign, being active on your ANN thread would really might do but of course there is really significant differences if we do compare out when you are launching a campaign but we know that not all companies does have the huge budget on running a long term campaign thats why they do really end up on
running 1-2 weeks which majority been saying that it wont really be that enough on seeing positive results.

This is also depending on what kind of site you do have, whether it is really good looking or giving out good games then you do have high chance or odds
on succeeding but of course it wont really be guaranteed as always.
hero member
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Hire Bitcointalk Camp. Manager @ r7promotions.com
I thought maybe the casinos had their own promotion plans so they decided to stop their signature campaign. Or it could be that they want to see how people react because I think if they see good results, they will continue to promote using signature campaigns.
It could be but most likely, they don't see the result that they wanting to have but a week run isn't really enough and will not show the results that they want.

Or it could be that this bear market impacts their finances but we don't know what their plans are. Besides, if they had other plans, they would do something to provide further information in their ANN.
Even there's no bear market, we've seen some campaigns that do have ran only for a week or two and that's unlikely going to hit success. But if they don't like the impact that a campaign they've ran, they should be active at all times and focus on their ANN threads so that the interaction between them and the community remains intact through it.
hero member
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There can be various reasons to end a campaign early. It is in the beginning on a forum that you are just new and that you want to try out all the possibilities. Maybe many sites underestimate the power of a campaign or maybe it's too big of an impact on the budget. Surely you can expect a starting gambling site to have a budget? After all, they also have to pay out players who win some money. You can make a signature campaign as big or small as you want. All ways of advertising can be helpful for a gambling site. I remember that iitlucy also just run their campaign 1 or 2 weeks.
hero member
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I can advise you and help you build a reputation, but I cannot force people to play on your site.
Very well said by a well known manager on this forum  Wink

This is actually true which these managers do handle up the community on running whether signature campaign or any tasks been giving out that simply connects out with advertisement or exposure.
This wont really guarantee out success or getting players on playing on the site even if you do put up huge budget on signature campaign.
THere are indeed two type of companies which is those small and big ones and things that it connects on it will really be depending or varying
whether running a campaign would be that sensible or just totally a waste of money and time.
legendary
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Some time ago I saw a new gambling site appear with a signature campaign managed by the professional Manager like Hhampuz , Cryptobrainbross. Like campaign  Fairspin, Bluechip (which I follow) both gambling sites didn't last long. Fairspin only runs for 2 weeks and Bluechip only runs for 1 week, and for several other signature campaigns it has also started to be held or ended.

Does this bear market affect the finances of the casino sites as well, so they have a low allocation for signature campaigns.

With the end of several signature campaigns, the competition is getting tougher. As in the Trus Dice campaign, which was managed by Hhampuz, only a few hours after it was opened, many people applied. and for sure those who have the most merit in the last 120 have a chance to be accepted. while those of us who are only able to collect a few merits are sometimes always eliminated and do not get a place.

Well signature campaigns have been ruthless in people competing for slots and the amount of Hero/Legendary users is slowly creeping up every week - this is hardly a new development. On your original question of how casinos operate, there are all sorts of reasons that might see the collapse of advertising campaigns, however it can often come down to money. It is a very hard market to break into now as there is already plenty of established sites who have accrued regular users and it can be almost impossible to attract their attention. A lot of new casino owners also don't realize how much money is required - not just to do this sort of advertising but paying for things like security when they come under DDOS attacks by people trying to blackmail them. If you cannot keep your site online in that scenario, you're losing vast amounts of money.
hero member
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The campaign will have to engage on a steady and clear discussion with their intending manager right before the launch of the campaign to fish out some certain things that could be of challenge regarding the signature campaign especially when the Gambling site is a newly launched one, after their interaction then comes the conclusion from the campaign operators, having a tangible result start with the gambling site functionality and services provided, gamblers will definitely give a troll just for viewing sake, but if found interesting they can give a try and with time they remain and stay, campaign managers should serve as a third party between the gambling site and it signature campaign participants and gamblers, relate the appropriation of every necessary updates and goings with the operators, within the space of a month they should begin to see observable traffic to their site and if their financial capacitation is bouyant enough they can continue the campaign because just on this forum alone, millions of people visits it day by day and you can imagine advertising to everyone of them through signature campaign could be an ideal step.
legendary
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Signature campaign managers just obey what their employer told them to do though so it's not a guarantee that it will last long or the company he/she working will be operating for weeks or months, it's not like that.
To an extent yes, but when a company contacts you you and that company discuss many things. At least you should IMO. You have the ability to tell a company how you feel about their plan, or you can shut, up tell them what you offer, and get paid. Those that are just looking for a paycheck are not the best managers IMO.
hero member
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Does this bear market affect the finances of the casino sites as well, so they have a low allocation for signature campaigns.
For sure it was, was here during the ICO Age and lot of signature campaigns are about ICO and once the bear market hits 2018 the signature campaigns tend to decrease as well. This was for sure the thing with other casinos especially if they aren't visited by gamblers compare to those who are still having huge operations.

Signature campaign managers just obey what their employer told them to do though so it's not a guarantee that it will last long or the company he/she working will be operating for weeks or months, it's not like that.
hero member
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Some time ago I saw a new gambling site appear with a signature campaign managed by the professional Manager like Hhampuz , Cryptobrainbross. Like campaign  Fairspin, Bluechip (which I follow) both gambling sites didn't last long. Fairspin only runs for 2 weeks and Bluechip only runs for 1 week, and for several other signature campaigns it has also started to be held or ended.

Does this bear market affect the finances of the casino sites as well, so they have a low allocation for signature campaigns.

With the end of several signature campaigns, the competition is getting tougher. As in the Trus Dice campaign, which was managed by Hhampuz, only a few hours after it was opened, many people applied. and for sure those who have the most merit in the last 120 have a chance to be accepted. while those of us who are only able to collect a few merits are sometimes always eliminated and do not get a place.

The allocation of a signature campaign in crypto gambling depends on whether the crypto casino has many players who deposit their money on the gambling platform. Of course, the bigger the money coming in, the bigger the allocation that the casino owner will give to the person they will promote their website platform to.

Now if Hampuz manages a signature campaign, the real battle for the participants will be the Merit contest, whoever has the top highest merit has the best chance of being accepted in the signature campaign, those with the lowest merit will lose, and in we can't do anything about that because those are Hampuz's rules and criteria.
sr. member
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Thanks for another detailed explanation. Precisely that is what all Campaign managers should think about. Campaign managers should ask casinos about their Bankroll and their promotion plans. How long they are on the market, and what do they expect from this campaign? If their expectation is too high, You have to explain how it works and why they should/shouldn't run the campaign now.

Moreover, I believe most casinos don't want to reveal their bank roll. Especially when it's low, but they pretend it's pretty much high. So, If they don't share their plan with you, it will be a challenging job for you, but the ultimate loss is theirs.


BTW, It will be good if you can add this post to your service thread, so you don't have to explain them every time. Your potential clients should be aware of that.
legendary
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Like campaign  Fairspin, Bluechip (which I follow) both gambling sites didn't last long. Fairspin only runs for 2 weeks and Bluechip only runs for 1 week, and for several other signature campaigns it has also started to be held or ended.
Does this bear market affect the finances of the casino sites as well, so they have a low allocation for signature campaigns.

Well, Most new casinos start the Signature campaigns after they get suggestions from the campaign managers. The casinos expect an instant result and want to run the campaign for two or three weeks to test the effect. I don't think every casino is Running their signature campaign just because of the traffic they get from Bitcointalk. Stablished Casinos want to maintain their reputation as well. Most of the new casinos don't focus on that.

Recently I noticed yahoo62278 is not interested in running such campaigns for one week or two which is good.

Signature campaign is not really the way to go unless a casino has a decent bankroll. Most casinos waste their money and go with the let's try a 1 week campaign and see what happens. Total waste of money. Casinos aren't going to launch a campaign and get miracle traffic in 1 week period. They are gonna need to settle in for the long haul and build a brand name.
So basically, do not contact me for a 1 week trial. I would not be interested.
No new casino is going to get the traffic they hope for by running a 1 week campaign here on bitcointalk. Let's say for example that I open a casino with a $50,000 bankroll. I decide to run a signature campaign for 1 week and spend $1000. I have just flushed 2% of my bankroll down the toilet because I am a moron and thought a signature campaign would bring me 1000's of new users.

I am not 1 of these desperate managers that will lie to a client and let them think a campaign is an awesome idea just so I get paid. I would rather see a casino do some smaller giveaways, free spin promos, review promos, or something smaller trying to work on their reputation vs waste money on a formula that will never work no matter who the manager is.

Now with all that said, a signature campaign is not a complete waste of money at all. You just cannot expect people to toss their money into something that is not proven right away. A company needs to build a reputation. A company needs to make sure their ToS is not completely ridiculous. A company needs to show that they plan on being around for a long time and that if you the consumer give them a chance, you will have a fun experience. Consumers also need to know that if they decide to trust a site and make a deposit, they will get paid. Of course you the consumer needs to read the ToS and make sure you can comply before making said deposit.

If a company has a decent bankroll and wants to come out aggressive with a signature campaign along with small promotions basically hitting the ground running, then I welcome those casinos to drop me a message and let's get to work building a name for yourselves. If you are a small company with a small bankroll, don't consider a signature campaign up front without establishing yourself so as you aren't wasting your money.

I can advise you and help you build a reputation, but I cannot force people to play on your site.
sr. member
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Like campaign  Fairspin, Bluechip (which I follow) both gambling sites didn't last long. Fairspin only runs for 2 weeks and Bluechip only runs for 1 week, and for several other signature campaigns it has also started to be held or ended.
Does this bear market affect the finances of the casino sites as well, so they have a low allocation for signature campaigns.

Well, Most new casinos start the Signature campaigns after they get suggestions from the campaign managers. The casinos expect an instant result and want to run the campaign for two or three weeks to test the effect. I don't think every casino is Running their signature campaign just because of the traffic they get from Bitcointalk. Stablished Casinos want to maintain their reputation as well. Most of the new casinos don't focus on that.

Recently I noticed yahoo62278 is not interested in running such campaigns for one week or two which is good.

Signature campaign is not really the way to go unless a casino has a decent bankroll. Most casinos waste their money and go with the let's try a 1 week campaign and see what happens. Total waste of money. Casinos aren't going to launch a campaign and get miracle traffic in 1 week period. They are gonna need to settle in for the long haul and build a brand name.
So basically, do not contact me for a 1 week trial. I would not be interested.
hero member
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Not sure, most casino campaigns are paid in dollar value and maybe they do that for other types of marketing out there as well like banner ads. I guess they have a special management for promotion and marketing funds that won't be much affected by the overall market effect.
hero member
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The bear market may also have played a significant role in the finances of casinos as gamblers might have also been affected by the falling market but I think many of these new casinos that only financed short signature campaigns here are simply providing a very limited budget.

Or perhaps upon their assessment their 1 to 2 weeks of exposure here didn't amount to enough new players. Of course 2 weeks of signature here may not really be enough. But perhaps these companies just want to see a considerable effect to their business only after that short period of time.

Maybe just postponing the marketing for now to save some BTC funds.

It could be if the marketing personnel is just cost-cutting for the marketing. For example, they are paying about 0.003BTC for $60 per week, but if there is a bullrun he could just be paying 0.002 for the same $60/week. Meaning he saves 0.001BTC per week. Does sound like an awesome plan still.
sr. member
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The bear market may also have played a significant role in the finances of casinos as gamblers might have also been affected by the falling market but I think many of these new casinos that only financed short signature campaigns here are simply providing a very limited budget.

Or perhaps upon their assessment their 1 to 2 weeks of exposure here didn't amount to enough new players. Of course 2 weeks of signature here may not really be enough. But perhaps these companies just want to see a considerable effect to their business only after that short period of time.
hero member
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I thought maybe the casinos had their own promotion plans so they decided to stop their signature campaign. Or it could be that they want to see how people react because I think if they see good results, they will continue to promote using signature campaigns. Or it could be that this bear market impacts their finances but we don't know what their plans are. Besides, if they had other plans, they would do something to provide further information in their ANN.
legendary
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I absolutely agree with you. We shouldn't expect any results from the new signaturr campaign after a week or two. If a new casino wants to attract players to their gaming floor, they can specify in the rules of the signature campaign that the rewards will be paid to the casino's account for all members of the signature campaign. Many of the forum members play gambling and in my opinion this option is great for gaining first reviews of a gambling site.
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