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Topic: New Ixcoin fork -> I0coin - page 2. (Read 217128 times)

legendary
Activity: 2632
Merit: 1023
June 27, 2014, 06:35:33 PM
3 times dead and still going means it likely unkillable.

met 80 PTH v 10 PTH at that point who cares?
legendary
Activity: 3052
Merit: 1534
www.ixcoin.net
June 27, 2014, 05:19:33 PM
this coin will overtake ixcoin as it has all the benefits none of the premine


How is the overtake prediction working out for you guys?

The i0Coin devs forgot to embed special hidden Aramaic meanings.  lol, that's iXcoin's real secret weapon.

 
Edit:  i0Coin doesn't even have a block explorer?  Sad.

well its attracted Vlad to comment!

More seriously though it offers all the benefits of IXC with none of the negatives.


You mean besides the 3 times i0Coin died?

And the fact iXcoin is much more secure at nearly 80 Peta Hash?

Other than that, it's better than IXC. 

Joking Around guys, I see your point but it looks like some very powerful people have already chosen iXcoin.  Maybe it's time to join the VladFest.

Cheers!
legendary
Activity: 2632
Merit: 1023
June 27, 2014, 04:49:36 PM
this coin will overtake ixcoin as it has all the benefits none of the premine


How is the overtake prediction working out for you guys?

The i0Coin devs forgot to embed special hidden Aramaic meanings.  lol, that's iXcoin's real secret weapon.

 
Edit:  i0Coin doesn't even have a block explorer?  Sad.

well its attracted Vlad to comment!

More seriously though it offers all the benefits of IXC with none of the negatives.
legendary
Activity: 3052
Merit: 1534
www.ixcoin.net
June 26, 2014, 07:00:07 PM
this coin will overtake ixcoin as it has all the benefits none of the premine


How is the overtake prediction working out for you guys?

The i0Coin devs forgot to embed special hidden Aramaic meanings.  lol, that's iXcoin's real secret weapon.

 
Edit:  i0Coin doesn't even have a block explorer?  Sad.
sr. member
Activity: 350
Merit: 250
April 15, 2014, 05:58:26 PM
Well for what it's worth we added i0Coin to AllCrypt.com - tho a thread with no posts for almost 2 months doesn't bode well for it sticking around...
legendary
Activity: 2632
Merit: 1023
February 20, 2014, 03:08:24 AM
this coin will overtake ixcoin as it has all the benefits none of the premine
legendary
Activity: 2940
Merit: 1090
January 03, 2014, 12:31:20 PM
No way. It is back on Bitparking's mmpool merged mining pool since a while back when it was the first of the merged mined coins to get a fix for a RAM hogging problem that all merged mined coins would ultimately have come up against.

It is also on at least one exchange: Vircurex.

-MarkM-
sr. member
Activity: 364
Merit: 250
January 03, 2014, 12:27:48 PM
So is this coin dead ?
legendary
Activity: 1632
Merit: 1010
September 14, 2013, 10:42:51 PM
Is Ixcoin taking hash-power away from the BTC network?
As of the typing of this only 4.76 bl/hr are being generated.
We really need to get merged mining going, otherwise when Oh-look another-coin comes along we'll be down to 3 bl/hr.
   

wow what do you think about this comment now?
legendary
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Merit: 1008
/dev/null
June 05, 2013, 02:03:23 AM
according to valgrind every CheckBlock creates 1+ leak, no matter if you mined it or someone else. ive only saw this so far in i0coin
using the basic tools for debugging before assumptions is a good idea Tongue

I did not see that yet. Maybe running out of ram screwed up my valgrind results?  Though I don't even see anything in CheckBlock, in the version I have, that allocates memory off hand.    What assumptions are being made?    CheckBlock also is called regardless of mm being on or not,  it would not explain the rapid growth in memory usage once the mm blocks are hit would it?  Hopefully I can get a new computer soon and actually run i0coin again to get better data.

BTW, could you add block size to the information shown on your blockexporer?
my blockexplorer isnt really kept up to date as its an older version and i have to find a fix for the HD trashing... take a look @ the last block and you see only DVC is actually up to date.

EDIT: namecoin started again, this wont trash my HD so hard Wink
sr. member
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June 05, 2013, 01:55:11 AM
according to valgrind every CheckBlock creates 1+ leak, no matter if you mined it or someone else. ive only saw this so far in i0coin
using the basic tools for debugging before assumptions is a good idea Tongue

I did not see that yet. Maybe running out of ram screwed up my valgrind results?  Though I don't even see anything in CheckBlock, in the version I have, that allocates memory off hand.    What assumptions are being made?    CheckBlock also is called regardless of mm being on or not,  it would not explain the rapid growth in memory usage once the mm blocks are hit would it?  Hopefully I can get a new computer soon and actually run i0coin again to get better data.

BTW, could you add block size to the information shown on your blockexporer?

legendary
Activity: 1792
Merit: 1008
/dev/null
June 04, 2013, 04:06:59 PM
this wont fix i0coin, i0coin has a huge amount of memleaks...

Yes it will, because those memleaks are not in bitcoin nor in the merged mining patches.

leveldb will not,   some other changes done at the same time will help.   However I am still unconvinced i0coin having memleaks is the root cause of the issue.  I think it is an issue that is present in at least some of the mm patches.   I noticed that at the point that the mm kicks in, the memory usage starts to grow at the rate of about 10x per block as it did before the mm kicks in.

Additionally, I think the same behavior is in nmc test. I also see evidence of it in coiledcoin, and groupcoin.   I think the reason we don't see it for devcoin and nmc, is that the major pools for these form their blocks outside of the *coind codes logic.

http://dot-bit.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=972

I just don't have the tools and resources locally set up to dig into this further, and was unable to find a good enough online block explorer to do so.  Since I am pretty much out of disk space on my laptop, it is going to be awhile till I can get back into digging into this, so hopefully someone else can beat me to it.


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They are due to some stupid pointless garbage hack or other, or even just a typo or something, in I0Coin, if they exist at all.

Are you sure of this?

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So we take a fully working nice up to date merged mined coin, and change the name, ports, IRC channel, etc etc and presto,a new incarnation of I0Coin but this time without putting stupid memleaks crap into it nor stupid DNS lookup crap into it nor any other useless or damaging crap into it.

Why are you so sure it is a memleak?   I think it is simply due to the issue above with mm, and the  number of blocks i0 has compared to the other chains.  dns lookup crap is due to it using ntp internally to enforce shorter windows of timestamps.   I know I used to advocate for a nontp option at least so on systems already keeping good time (running ntp already for example), all this crap can be turned off, and stop the load on the ntp public servers, and network use that is unneeded etc.


according to valgrind every CheckBlock creates 1+ leak, no matter if you mined it or someone else. ive only saw this so far in i0coin
using the basic tools for debugging before assumptions is a good idea Tongue
sr. member
Activity: 574
Merit: 250
June 04, 2013, 09:22:43 AM
this wont fix i0coin, i0coin has a huge amount of memleaks...

Yes it will, because those memleaks are not in bitcoin nor in the merged mining patches.

leveldb will not,   some other changes done at the same time will help.   However I am still unconvinced i0coin having memleaks is the root cause of the issue.  I think it is an issue that is present in at least some of the mm patches.   I noticed that at the point that the mm kicks in, the memory usage starts to grow at the rate of about 10x per block as it did before the mm kicks in.

Additionally, I think the same behavior is in nmc test. I also see evidence of it in coiledcoin, and groupcoin.   I think the reason we don't see it for devcoin and nmc, is that the major pools for these form their blocks outside of the *coind codes logic.

http://dot-bit.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=972

I just don't have the tools and resources locally set up to dig into this further, and was unable to find a good enough online block explorer to do so.  Since I am pretty much out of disk space on my laptop, it is going to be awhile till I can get back into digging into this, so hopefully someone else can beat me to it.


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They are due to some stupid pointless garbage hack or other, or even just a typo or something, in I0Coin, if they exist at all.

Are you sure of this?

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So we take a fully working nice up to date merged mined coin, and change the name, ports, IRC channel, etc etc and presto,a new incarnation of I0Coin but this time without putting stupid memleaks crap into it nor stupid DNS lookup crap into it nor any other useless or damaging crap into it.

Why are you so sure it is a memleak?   I think it is simply due to the issue above with mm, and the  number of blocks i0 has compared to the other chains.  dns lookup crap is due to it using ntp internally to enforce shorter windows of timestamps.   I know I used to advocate for a nontp option at least so on systems already keeping good time (running ntp already for example), all this crap can be turned off, and stop the load on the ntp public servers, and network use that is unneeded etc.

legendary
Activity: 2940
Merit: 1090
June 04, 2013, 05:07:35 AM
this wont fix i0coin, i0coin has a huge amount of memleaks...

Yes it will, because those memleaks are not in bitcoin nor in the merged mining patches.

They are due to some stupid pointless garbage hack or other, or even just a typo or something, in I0Coin, if they exist at all.

All that I0Coin itself really is is a name, a magic handshake bytes set, an IRC channel or collection of IRC channels, a couple of default ports, a difficulty adjustment routine, a block number at which merged mining started, and a block subsidy schedule.

So we take a fully working nice up to date merged mined coin, and change the name, ports, IRC channel, etc etc and presto,a new incarnation of I0Coin but this time without putting stupid memleaks crap into it nor stupid DNS lookup crap into it nor any other useless or damaging crap into it.

However, it might still need shitloads of memory, because even the latest bitcoin code keeps all unspent outputs in RAM I think, and I0Coin likely has a massive number of tiny unspent outputs thanks to a period in which someone was spamming it with "dust" transactions.

-MarkM-
legendary
Activity: 1792
Merit: 1008
/dev/null
June 04, 2013, 04:02:49 AM
I am hoping that both I0Coin and GeistGeld might be a lot more amenable once the "Mergecoin" repo is ready and all the merged mined coins use it to update themselves to recent bitcoin code.

-MarkM-


+1

After using leveldb in bitcoin, the thrashing my disk took bootstrapping all the merged mining chains was embarrassing.
this wont fix i0coin, i0coin has a huge amount of memleaks...
legendary
Activity: 980
Merit: 1000
June 03, 2013, 05:37:18 PM
Are you really making me go through my old HDDs to find my i0coin wallets? (which were surely empty btw)
Yes Wink
legendary
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Merit: 1280
May Bitcoin be touched by his Noodly Appendage
June 03, 2013, 04:52:44 PM
Are you really making me go through my old HDDs to find my i0coin wallets? (which were surely empty btw)
legendary
Activity: 980
Merit: 1000
June 03, 2013, 04:14:53 PM
I'm currently in the process of fixing the memory leak / various other issues and reviving i0coin.

Stay tuned.
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1002
June 03, 2013, 12:18:50 PM
I am hoping that both I0Coin and GeistGeld might be a lot more amenable once the "Mergecoin" repo is ready and all the merged mined coins use it to update themselves to recent bitcoin code.

-MarkM-


+1

After using leveldb in bitcoin, the thrashing my disk took bootstrapping all the merged mining chains was embarrassing.
legendary
Activity: 2940
Merit: 1090
June 03, 2013, 06:16:01 AM
I am hoping that both I0Coin and GeistGeld might be a lot more amenable once the "Mergecoin" repo is ready and all the merged mined coins use it to update themselves to recent bitcoin code.

-MarkM-
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