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https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3090-gaming-performance-review-leaks-out

3090 benchmarks vs 3080

games +10%
synthetic +20% (3d mark)

mining performance tends to reflect to synthetic performance in difference. if 3080 is 100mhs, then probably 3090 is 120-130mhs.

if 3090 will hash efficient enough @ 133.33mhs.. in a 3 card rig setup, will work like 4x 3080 @ 400mhs..

but i hope 120-130mhs is for 3080ti not for 3090, 3090 will be sweet for 150mhs.

if these asics are still getting bought, a x3 3090 rig and x4 3080 rig is close enough in density. also if you think about resell value and being able to mine other coins 3080 is already a winner and 3090 is reasonable enough versus ETH ASIC.

500mhs eth asic is 4689$ at 750w

https://www.cryptominerbros.com/product/innosilicon-a10-pro-500mh-s-ethash-miner/

knowing these ASICs are getting bought, 3080 is a no brainer to purchase for mining eth Wink

I will not be surprised if ASIC trolls will come full force against 30xx series for mining LOL

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Quote from: Metroid on September 18, 2020, 04:48:49 PM

guy got 100 mhs using 250 watts. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMVLTECQoZc

It's a good hashrate, but there's a choice to be made, maybe 2 5700xt hashing 54Mhs each one will be a better choice, with bios mod people are getting 56Mhs
Here in my country 2 radeon 5700 are cheaper than one RXT 3080 and it's easy to buy

I'll probably buy one if I have the chance with a reasonable price

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Quote from: Metroid on September 18, 2020, 04:48:49 PM

Quote from: philipma1957 on September 18, 2020, 04:42:42 PM

and I will make it worse then amd cards due to no availability.

Miners should never pay more than $749 for it, up to $749 is okay. The best thing at moment is walk away from it and await patiently.

There is a video about its hashrate on eth, guy got 100 mhs using 250 watts. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMVLTECQoZc

We'll see if it actually gets that. On Ampere, rather than crashing the memory will generate more and more errors. Actually it probably was somewhat true in the previous generation too, but to a much lesser degree.

I have 3 Polaris cards running. 1 card is weaker in this aspect than the rest. None of the cards get memory errors nor do they get incorrect shares. But the weaker card needs the memory clock to be backed down little bit further otherwise the effective hash rate drops compared to the reported hash rate because it'll get less shares.

I've seen other systems on Etherscan where the effective hash is consistently 5-7% lower than the reported hash rate. This is what happens when the card is pushed too hard but not so much that monitoring utilities are able to see the problems.

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Quote from: philipma1957 on September 18, 2020, 04:42:42 PM

and I will make it worse then amd cards due to no availability.

Miners should never pay more than $749 for it, up to $749 is okay. The best thing at moment is walk away from it and await patiently.

There is a video about its hashrate on eth, guy got 100 mhs using 250 watts. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMVLTECQoZc

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Quote from: geck on September 18, 2020, 08:29:56 AM

Sure, you might want to remove the efficiency word from post #100 too: "certainly the gpu king of mining for now." Is that really wrong? Do the numbers say I said bs? Is there a better GPU right now regarding efficiency and density?

Efficient it is not, density maybe, my radeon 7 can get similar hashrate if pushed.

All right I think you need to go back to school, really, when somebody says "efficiency and density", it means both, there is not gpu with both attributes that beats the 3080. I will make the setence better, "efficiency, density and price".

and I will make it worse then amd cards due to no availability.

I could not get one. I know some that paid 749 for a gigabyte that will not arrive until 11/2

I can get 2 amd 5700 for 718 in 2 days.

I am not knocking the 3080 I am just saying meh.

Than said I would built out one with 4 of these today

https://www.ebay.com/itm/NVIDIA-GEFORCE-RTX-3080-10GB-FOUNDERS-EDITION-ORDER-SHIPPED/284016500009?

but the filthy cocksucker has marked them up from 699 to 1650

and if I build out my last board

below at a nice price of 105

https://www.ebay.com/itm/biostar-TB250-BTC-D-Pro-Motherboard-Mining/124217882169?

it won't be with 1650 priced 3080 cards.

but if some had 4 for 2800 I would consider it.

So for now the 3080 is a terrible card with zero value since it is costing over 2x its price on ebay and sold out everywhere else.

But anyone got one of the blower styles for 699 please let me know Roll Eyes

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Quote from: arielbit on September 18, 2020, 01:33:54 PM

there is high chance that waiting for 3080ti is not good for mining, just go for 3080. like i said earlier, the less state of the art gpus running, the faster you ROI (running 3080)

Yeah, 3080ti is dead for mining not because it will not be a good card, is because of timing, by next year, it could be a negative net on mining and when that happens, cards like 3080ti is the least viable gpu to purchase for mining.

Quote from: aesma on September 18, 2020, 03:03:51 PM

The specs aren't logical, the 3080Ti like that would be as fast, maybe even faster than the 3090 ! Keep in mind there was no 2090 so the 2080Ti could be as fast as possible, but here nvidia needs something squarely between the 3080 and the 3090, not something within 1 or 2% of the 3090.

Well it's next year, so nvidia usually releases titan performance on the ti model. On the 2xxx series there was no need to release a 2080ti because nvidia had already released the 2080ti from the get go with the others, yeah it could have been the 2080ti super but it never came out, so reason i said is going to be like 2016-2017, I think the 1080ti was pretty similar to titan pascal.

GeForce GTX 1080 Ti March 10, 2017 GP102-350-K1-A1 3584:224:88 2,816 1480 1582 11000 130.2 331.5 11 484 352 10609 (11340) 332 (354) 166 (177) 250 $699

NVIDIA TITAN X August 2, 2016 GP102-400-A1 3584:224:96 3,072 1417 1531 10000 136 317.4 12 480 384 10157 (10974) 317 (343) 159 (171) N/A

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeForce_10_series

Whattomine updated and added the 3080: 86 mhs, 210 watts, by that stats the 3080 is the best gpu for mining https://whattomine.com/gpus

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Quote from: Metroid on September 18, 2020, 01:21:07 PM

Quote from: arielbit on September 18, 2020, 01:05:55 PM

https://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3080-20-gb-rtx-3070-16-gb-rtx-3060-8-gb-graphics-cards-confirmed/

memory bus for both 3080 and 3080ti is both 320 bit. that's why speed improvement might be mininmal, 20gb however is a must for upcoming games textures at 4k

the only 384bit is 3090, nvidia reserved that special spot for the number 1 hehe

Name      Chip      Memory Shaders TMUs ROPs Base Clock Boost Clock Memory Clock
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080      GA102-200-KD-A1 10 GB    8704      272      96     1440 MHz    1710 MHz    1188 MHz
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti GA102-300-A1      20 GB    10240     320      112    1410 MHz    1740 MHz    1188 MHz
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090      GA102-300-A1      24 GB    10496     328      112    1395 MHz    1695 MHz    1219 MHz

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/nvidia-ga102.g930

On techpowerup ga102 page has this table on 3080ti, how much this might be true that is another thing hehe but I somehow believe this table to be spot on. March next year perhaps? I don't think AMD will have anything in this bracket so nvidia will charge whatever they want. I still think 10gb is not enough in 2 years time, it is today and probably next year too, getting a 10gb now and reselling in 2 years is not something i would like to do. The only thing that remains is what will be the price of the 20gb, I predict maximum $849 which if you think about is not that bad, charging $899 or $999 might be just too much for it.

The specs aren't logical, the 3080Ti like that would be as fast, maybe even faster than the 3090 ! Keep in mind there was no 2090 so the 2080Ti could be as fast as possible, but here nvidia needs something squarely between the 3080 and the 3090, not something within 1 or 2% of the 3090.

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Quote from: Metroid on September 18, 2020, 01:21:07 PM

Quote from: arielbit on September 18, 2020, 01:05:55 PM

https://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3080-20-gb-rtx-3070-16-gb-rtx-3060-8-gb-graphics-cards-confirmed/

memory bus for both 3080 and 3080ti is both 320 bit. that's why speed improvement might be mininmal, 20gb however is a must for upcoming games textures at 4k

the only 384bit is 3090, nvidia reserved that special spot for the number 1 hehe

Name     Chip     Memory Shaders TMUs ROPs Base Clock Boost Clock Memory Clock
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080     GA102-200-KD-A1 10 GB    8704     272     96     1440 MHz    1710 MHz    1188 MHz
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti GA102-300-A1     20 GB    10240     320     112    1410 MHz    1740 MHz    1188 MHz
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090     GA102-300-A1     24 GB    10496     328     112    1395 MHz    1695 MHz    1219 MHz

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/nvidia-ga102.g930

On techpowerup ga102 page has this table on 3080ti, how much this might be true that is another thing hehe but I somehow believe this table to be spot on. March next year perhaps? I don't think AMD will have anything in this bracket so nvidia will charge whatever they want. I still think 10gb is not enough in 2 years time, it is today and probably next year too, getting a 10gb now and reselling in 2 years is not something i would like to do. The only thing that remains is what will be the price of the 20gb, I predict maximum $849 which if you think about is not that bad, charging $899 or $999 might be just too much for it.

Quote from: Metroid on September 18, 2020, 08:39:39 AM

I will make the setence better, "efficiency, density and price".

...and time with a pinch of effort is money..MONEY

there is high chance that waiting for 3080ti is not good for mining, just go for 3080. like i said earlier, the less state of the art gpus running, the faster you ROI (running 3080)

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Quote from: arielbit on September 18, 2020, 01:05:55 PM

https://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3080-20-gb-rtx-3070-16-gb-rtx-3060-8-gb-graphics-cards-confirmed/

memory bus for both 3080 and 3080ti is both 320 bit. that's why speed improvement might be mininmal, 20gb however is a must for upcoming games textures at 4k

the only 384bit is 3090, nvidia reserved that special spot for the number 1 hehe

Name     Chip     Memory Shaders TMUs ROPs Base Clock Boost Clock Memory Clock
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080     GA102-200-KD-A1 10 GB    8704     272     96     1440 MHz    1710 MHz    1188 MHz
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti GA102-300-A1     20 GB    10240     320     112    1410 MHz    1740 MHz    1188 MHz
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090     GA102-300-A1     24 GB    10496     328     112    1395 MHz    1695 MHz    1219 MHz

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/nvidia-ga102.g930

On techpowerup ga102 page has this table on 3080ti, how much this might be true that is another thing hehe but I somehow believe this table to be spot on. March next year perhaps? I don't think AMD will have anything in this bracket so nvidia will charge whatever they want. I still think 10gb is not enough in 2 years time, it is today and probably next year too, getting a 10gb now and reselling in 2 years is not something i would like to do. The only thing that remains is what will be the price of the 20gb, I predict maximum $849 which if you think about is not that bad, charging $899 or $999 might be just too much for it.

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Quote from: Metroid on September 18, 2020, 12:54:05 PM

Quote from: arielbit on September 18, 2020, 12:44:05 PM

3080 vs 3080ti may not have significant speed difference worthy of upgrading, but it is the vram (8gb to 16gb....10gb to 20gb) that will make those 3080, 3070 buyers upgrade hehe.

I guess if that comes to happen, it will be like the 1080 x 1080ti, performance like or a bit lower than 3900 but cheaper and 384bit + 20gb, 3080ti around $1199, I guess.

https://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3080-20-gb-rtx-3070-16-gb-rtx-3060-8-gb-graphics-cards-confirmed/

memory bus for both 3080 and 3080ti are both 320 bit. that's why speed improvement might be mininmal, 16gb/20gb however is a must for upcoming games textures at 4k

the only 384bit is 3090, nvidia reserved that special spot for the number 1 hehe

the way i see it is 1080 vs 1080ti difference will be the 3080/3080ti vs 3070/3070/ti. those are 320bit vs 256bit.

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Quote from: arielbit on September 18, 2020, 12:44:05 PM

3080 vs 3080ti may not have significant speed difference worthy of upgrading, but it is the vram (8gb to 16gb....10gb to 20gb) that will make those 3080, 3070 buyers upgrade hehe.

I guess if that comes to happen, it will be like the 1080 x 1080ti, performance like or a bit lower than 3900 but cheaper and 384bit + 20gb, 3080ti around $1199, I guess.

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anyway i was right about nvidia "double sell" technique. gigabyte leaked the info btw

3080, 3070 sold out

3090 for sale

3080ti/super 20gb, 3070ti/super 16gb to be released

if you spend $700 for 3080 and spend another $8-900 on 3080ti, that's more than $1500 (3090 price). i said just get the 3090 for your gaming needs.

3080 vs 3080ti may not have significant speed difference worthy of upgrading, but it is the vram (8gb to 16gb....10gb to 20gb) that will make those 3080, 3070 buyers upgrade hehe.

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Some of you guys are missing a point, the 3080 is very close to 5700s and Radon VIIs on efficiency BUT I would guess it can do a lot better on other algos then the AMD cards and retain a higher percentage resale price.

I have 130 GPUs and half are 5700s and half are the 1000s series NVIDIA and 500-400 series AMDs. I plan on replacing all the old cards with the new 3000 series if AMDs new cards aren't better then the 3000 series.

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This whole situation is simple
If you have a card like a 3080 that will hash more, it doesn't matter if consumes more power to the ones in China for example, paying 3 or 4 cents USD
But for the ones who pays more than 10 cents, it's essential to have the best power consumption per hash

Here in my country I pay 14cents USD and it's profitable at the moment, but I need to squeeze my cards at the maximum, so I have 1660 super and 5700XT

No need to fight guys, let's see how good 3080 and other Nvidias will be

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Quote from: Metroid on September 18, 2020, 08:36:05 AM

It's funny really, dont know why you trolls are so upset about the 3080, there must be something why it triggered the negativity on some trolls, its clearly the best gpu at moment, even the chinese stocked thousands of it 2 weeks prior of the launch, countless threads on baidu about 3080 farming, I myself never thought the chinese would show so much interested on the gpu because they have everything in there, why stock on 3080 while they can buy asics or better gpu performance price efficiency? factories and factories are on their doorstep, do the chinese are stupid for such action? on the contrary, they are very smart. Besides the chinese, the same can't be said for us here in the west, because the chinese dont buy something to resell for something more, they have factories and factories close to where they live, the resell thing do not work there like it works on the west, the buying spree yesterday was because people wanted to buy to resell. The resellers have thousands of bots that dont let people to buy then they buy almost everything and then they resell for 2 to 3x more.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=294&v=qHogHMvZscM&feature=emb_logo

faster cards and cheaper electricity. you plug one you get 95mhs and get paid $6per day for that card. plain and simple.

while mini dicks going around the forum where they vent their anger and frustration are trying to squeeze what little profit they got.. like living in an alternate reality(escapism) when they see 2.1W/mh on efficiency while having i dunno 5mhs? LOL who cares?.

so they always bring them their calculator to fiddle with the numbers and hope they get what they want to see..like 65mhs 3080..LOL

it is like a delicious piece of cookie where a guy just pinched a crumble in it and gave it to you and you wallow on that piece like you life depends on it. that's how bad things are for these people.

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Quote from: geck on September 18, 2020, 08:29:56 AM

Sure, you might want to remove the efficiency word from post #100 too: "certainly the gpu king of mining for now." Is that really wrong? Do the numbers say I said bs? Is there a better GPU right now regarding efficiency and density?

Efficient it is not, density maybe, my radeon 7 can get similar hashrate if pushed.

All right I think you need to go back to school, really, when somebody says "efficiency and density", it means both, there is not gpu with both attributes that beats the 3080. I will make the setence better, "efficiency, density and price".

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It's funny really, dont know why you trolls are so upset about the 3080, there must be something why it triggered the negativity on some trolls, its clearly the best gpu at moment, even the chinese stocked thousands of it 2 weeks prior of the launch, countless threads on baidu about 3080 farming, I myself never thought the chinese would show so much interested on the gpu because they have everything in there, why stock on 3080 while they can buy asics or better gpu performance price efficiency? factories and factories are on their doorstep, do the chinese are stupid for such action? on the contrary, they are very smart. Besides the chinese, the same can't be said for us here in the west, because the chinese dont buy something to resell for something more, they have factories and factories close to where they live, the resell thing do not work there like it works on the west, the buying spree yesterday was because people wanted to buy to resell. The resellers have thousands of bots that dont let people to buy then they buy almost everything and then they resell for 2 to 3x more.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=294&v=qHogHMvZscM&feature=emb_logo

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Quote from: Metroid on September 18, 2020, 08:10:18 AM

Quote from: geck on September 18, 2020, 08:03:10 AM

Quote from: Metroid on September 18, 2020, 07:59:34 AM

Quote from: geck on September 18, 2020, 07:53:16 AM

Quote from: Metroid on September 18, 2020, 03:04:37 AM

Quote from: geck on September 18, 2020, 02:52:19 AM

It definitely isn't the king of mining in terms of efficiency for ETH. 2.52W/MH puts it roughly equal to my 2080.
If it is hampered by the gddr6x, then the 3070 should fare better at ETH - 60MH @ 150W? That would be rx5700 level.

uh? you say equal and yet you did not say your hashrate, taking the value from whattomine, it says, 2080, 38 mhs 160 watts, rx 5700 or 3070 will not come close to price performance of the 3080 and density, you can deny all day long but when numbers are real, is time you trolls accept the reality, at moment there is nothing better than 3080 overall which yes makes it the gpu king of mining.

Yes i said equal, as you were talking about efficiency in terms of W/MH for ETH. Based on that metric, i disagree with your statement that the 3080 is the "king of mining in terms of efficiency".
The hashrate of my 2080 does not matter as we are talking about W/MH, but fwiw, on average, my cards do 41.4MH @ 105W-110W atw.

It's funny, because you said something and my post says something different, so I will Paraphrase it here again "rx 5700 or 3070 will not come close to price performance of the 3080 and density", and by the way, I would not buy a rtx 2080 even it it was $300 at this moment, 200 usd at moment I would think about.

Yes it is different from what you said, because you edited out the "efficiency" word from your op.
I do agree with you that i would not buy a 2080 even at $300, however i would buy an rx 5700.

I did not edit and do you know what proves i did not, is your reply, it quoted what I wrote at that moment of your reply, check your quote, if you want to know more about it then ask an admin of the site how reply or quote works.

Sure, you might want to remove the efficiency word from post #100 too: "certainly the gpu king of mining for now." Is that really wrong? Do the numbers say I said bs? Is there a better GPU right now regarding efficiency and density?

Efficient it is not, density maybe, my radeon 7 can get similar hashrate if pushed.

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Quote from: wOvAN on September 17, 2020, 03:04:48 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRxlTxysbQk

95mh - 240w

Longterm test? Running for 5 sec say nothing. Please let it run for a week without restart.
Find a sweetspot under 200w would be nice, but for me, the 3060 (ti) is more interesting, same mem speed as 3070 but cheaper.

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