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legendary
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September 17, 2020, 05:50:59 AM
#85
I know that this are gddr5, but the memory is not the only thing. The R9 390 has 512bit memory interface, that is why i say incredible. Or you know much more cards with such a big memory interface like this?
Don´t compare only gddr5 with gddr6 or hbm, you must see the whole thing. memspeed is combination of memory interface and memspeed.

i like to keep things simple hehe, those memory interface speed differences are just minimal leap. major upgrades/purchases are only worthy with huge leap in performance.
XXXXDDDDD ok now i am out, I don´t discuss with persons they have really really really and really no knowledge about what they talking about. So you say, if i can halving the memory interface of an r9 390 to 256, this will change nothing in eth speed? you cut of the halve mem speed and this will do nothing with the speed? Ok dude you must learn much more, i don´t believe this, i know this.

How much cards you have for mining?

For example: R9 390 can reach over 40mh if you rise the core to the hell, an rx 580 with almost the same number of shaders, but halve mem interface cannot achieve these hashrate.

for example...bluah..blah..blee.bluu.blawr..

will you cut the memory interface from 512 to 256? LOL it is a product, engineers already decided what interface will do best for that product.

we just run it and see if it will profit. dude you are over complicating things just to win an argument that you will never win hehehehe

how many cards i run? well... that's the mystery dude  Cheesy

Oh man please let it rain brain. Your knowledge is incredible XD it is product. What an answer. You know the difference between 512bit und 256bit? You know that 256bit produce halve memspeed as 512bit can do?

dude i don´t answer you anymore and set you on my ignore list. I can´t read your shit no more Cool

And i will never win? What will i win? A trip? You have no arguments and nothing and with your 3 cards running you think you are a big player XD

yeah, my super expert scientist and engineering brain knows that 3080 has a hidden rx480 inside, because if you slide the msi afterburner bar a little bit to the right it generates another 25-30 mhs of extra hashrate

you....while owing rx 480 cannot accept the fact that 3080 buyers will have a rx480 inside their 3080 cards for free.

gpu mining/gpu technology has another major leg up, going sour and rampaging in altcoin mining section while being phased out in the game is not the way to go sxe..mini dick LOL   Grin  Grin

hehehe ignore my ass....all these years in bitcointalk...they always read  Cheesy
member
Activity: 1558
Merit: 69
September 17, 2020, 05:40:21 AM
#84
I know that this are gddr5, but the memory is not the only thing. The R9 390 has 512bit memory interface, that is why i say incredible. Or you know much more cards with such a big memory interface like this?
Don´t compare only gddr5 with gddr6 or hbm, you must see the whole thing. memspeed is combination of memory interface and memspeed.

i like to keep things simple hehe, those memory interface speed differences are just minimal leap. major upgrades/purchases are only worthy with huge leap in performance.
XXXXDDDDD ok now i am out, I don´t discuss with persons they have really really really and really no knowledge about what they talking about. So you say, if i can halving the memory interface of an r9 390 to 256, this will change nothing in eth speed? you cut of the halve mem speed and this will do nothing with the speed? Ok dude you must learn much more, i don´t believe this, i know this.

How much cards you have for mining?

For example: R9 390 can reach over 40mh if you rise the core to the hell, an rx 580 with almost the same number of shaders, but halve mem interface cannot achieve these hashrate.

will you cut the memory interface from 512 to 256? LOL it is a product, engineers already decided what interface will do best for that product.

we just run it and see if it will profit. dude you are over complicating things just to win an argument that you will never win hehehehe

how many cards i run? well... that's the mystery dude  Cheesy

Oh man please let it rain brain. Your knowledge is incredible XD it is product. What an answer. You know the difference between 512bit und 256bit? You know that 256bit produce halve memspeed as 512bit can do?

dude i don´t answer you anymore and set you on my ignore list. I can´t read your shit anymore Cool

And i will never win? What will i win? A trip? You have no arguments and nothing and with your 3 cards running you think you are a big player XD

This is sentence from you (arielbit) say all about your knowledge:
Quote from: arielbit
anyway my point is about 150mhs "possibility" from gddr5x to 6 to 6x. that's two vram generation leaps. understand the analogy. then you will understand why it is a "possibility"
Yes and gddr5 to gddr5x brings double memspeed. man dude you must compare the real memspeed and not gddr5 to gddr6x.  Roll Eyes some people will learn nothing but thats it. i am out sorry dude and have fun with your killer 1080ti´s that can produce 50mh, wow impressive  Cheesy Roll Eyes Huh and you compare it with the RX5700 and say that Nvidia can do this many years ago. Ok AMD can do over 100mh many years ago with vega7. And by the way, the Rx5700 can do over 55mh at 120w, how much watt needs the 1080ti´s?

And next argument: Miners not optimized for RTX3080. Ok the miners are also not optimized for AMD vega7, Navi and so on. Miners optimized for the RTX20X0 series? Some other algo miners yes, but not for ETH.
You say i only speak about ETH hashrate and nvidia can do more algos than AMD, but why you still compare the ETH hashrate  Huh


There are many algos for AMD and Nvidia, i prefer no Manufacturer, i only buy cards with a good hash per watt ratio.

How can I calculate the memory bandwidth thats important for ETH mining:

(memory clock in Hz × Memory Interface ÷ 8 ) × memory clock type multiplier = Bandwidth in MB/s

memory clock type multiplier:
HBM1 / HBM2: 2
GDDR3: 2
GDDR5: 4
GDDR5X: 8
legendary
Activity: 3444
Merit: 1061
September 17, 2020, 05:31:12 AM
#83
I know that this are gddr5, but the memory is not the only thing. The R9 390 has 512bit memory interface, that is why i say incredible. Or you know much more cards with such a big memory interface like this?
Don´t compare only gddr5 with gddr6 or hbm, you must see the whole thing. memspeed is combination of memory interface and memspeed.

i like to keep things simple hehe, those memory interface speed differences are just minimal leap. major upgrades/purchases are only worthy with huge leap in performance.
XXXXDDDDD ok now i am out, I don´t discuss with persons they have really really really and really no knowledge about what they talking about. So you say, if i can halving the memory interface of an r9 390 to 256, this will change nothing in eth speed? you cut of the halve mem speed and this will do nothing with the speed? Ok dude you must learn much more, i don´t believe this, i know this.

How much cards you have for mining?

For example: R9 390 can reach over 40mh if you rise the core to the hell, an rx 580 with almost the same number of shaders, but halve mem interface cannot achieve these hashrate.
Next Example: R9 280x 384bit mem interface, can achieve 28mh on 1GB DAG, R9 380x same shader count, but interface cuted to 256bit, max it can achieve 25mh with some optimizations.

Can you prove anything or do you have any comparisons that prove your statements?

for example...bluah..blah..blee.bluu.blawr..

will you cut the memory interface from 512 to 256? LOL it is a product, engineers already decided what interface will do best for that product.

we just run it and see if it will profit. dude you are over complicating things just to win an argument that you will never win hehehehe

how many cards i run? well... that's the mystery dude  Cheesy
member
Activity: 1558
Merit: 69
September 17, 2020, 05:15:36 AM
#82
I know that this are gddr5, but the memory is not the only thing. The R9 390 has 512bit memory interface, that is why i say incredible. Or you know much more cards with such a big memory interface like this?
Don´t compare only gddr5 with gddr6 or hbm, you must see the whole thing. memspeed is combination of memory interface and memspeed.

i like to keep things simple hehe, those memory interface speed differences are just minimal leap. major upgrades/purchases are only worthy with huge leap in performance.
XXXXDDDDD ok now i am out, I don´t discuss with persons they have really really really and really no knowledge about what they talking about. So you say, if i can halving the memory interface of an r9 390 to 256, this will change nothing in eth speed? you cut of the halve mem speed and this will do nothing with the speed? Ok dude you must learn much more, i don´t believe this, i know this.

How much cards you have for mining?

For example: R9 390 can reach over 40mh if you rise the core to the hell, an rx 580 with almost the same number of shaders, but halve mem interface cannot achieve these hashrate.
Next Example: R9 280x 384bit mem interface, can achieve 28mh on 1GB DAG, R9 380x same shader count, but interface cuted to 256bit, max it can achieve 25mh with some optimizations.

Can you prove anything or do you have any comparisons that prove your statements?
legendary
Activity: 3444
Merit: 1061
September 17, 2020, 05:08:06 AM
#81
I know that this are gddr5, but the memory is not the only thing. The R9 390 has 512bit memory interface, that is why i say incredible. Or you know much more cards with such a big memory interface like this?
Don´t compare only gddr5 with gddr6 or hbm, you must see the whole thing. memspeed is combination of memory interface and memspeed.

i like to keep things simple hehe, those memory interface speed differences are just minimal leap. major upgrades/purchases are only worthy with huge leap in performance.
member
Activity: 1558
Merit: 69
September 17, 2020, 05:02:04 AM
#80
I know that this are gddr5, but the memory is not the only thing. The R9 390 has 512bit memory interface, that is why i say incredible. Or you know much more cards with such a big memory interface like this?
Don´t compare only gddr5 with gddr6 or hbm, you must see the whole thing. memspeed is combination of memory interface and memspeed.
legendary
Activity: 3444
Merit: 1061
September 17, 2020, 04:48:11 AM
#79


well, after 2 years nvidia was able to reproduce Radeon VII eth performance with more wattage  Grin

Yeah but nvidia did not need hbm2. So all in fairness still impressive as is just gddr6x.

it was the core, radeon vii hbm was bottle necked by the core, nvidia gddr6x amphere is what radeon vii should be.

besides amd and nvidia don't make gddr6x and hbm just for eth mining lol

Yes, the vega7 can do much more in hashrate, because the memspeed was incredible, samething as the old AMD R9 390, it has so much mem speed, but the bottleneck was the core.


r9 390 was just a refresh of r9 290 both are gddr5........same as 280x, that's why 280x was the best balance of efficiency, price and hashrate.

amd vram speed only become "incredible" when fury, fury x and nano were released with hbm.

remember when 1070/ti are both gddr5? hehe people got crazy about them, not me. gddr5 ended for me with r9 390 and rx 480.
member
Activity: 1558
Merit: 69
September 17, 2020, 04:19:03 AM
#78
well, after 2 years nvidia was able to reproduce Radeon VII eth performance with more wattage  Grin

Yeah but nvidia did not need hbm2. So all in fairness still impressive as is just gddr6x.

lol Metroid. Nvidia Fanboy? I think so and why you talking so much about mining, when you are not mining?
You are not a miner and have no really knowledge, as we see in this sentence.

The vega7 is how old? How much hashrate in grin, eth and so on can it do? But yes the new 3080 is impressive and the new holy grale lol  Roll Eyes
AMD cards needs less memspeed to achieve same hashrate like Nvidia cards, as we see AMD RX5700 vs Nvidia 2080 and we not talking about the price.

well, after 2 years nvidia was able to reproduce Radeon VII eth performance with more wattage  Grin

Yeah but nvidia did not need hbm2. So all in fairness still impressive as is just gddr6x.

it was the core, radeon vii hbm was bottle necked by the core, nvidia gddr6x amphere is what radeon vii should be.

besides amd and nvidia don't make gddr6x and hbm just for eth mining lol

Yes, the vega7 can do much more in hashrate, because the memspeed was incredible, samething as the old AMD R9 390, it has so much mem speed, but the bottleneck was the core.
legendary
Activity: 3444
Merit: 1061
September 17, 2020, 03:41:49 AM
#77
well, after 2 years nvidia was able to reproduce Radeon VII eth performance with more wattage  Grin

Yeah but nvidia did not need hbm2. So all in fairness still impressive as is just gddr6x.

it was the core, radeon vii hbm was bottle necked by the core, nvidia gddr6x amphere is what radeon vii should be.

besides amd and nvidia don't make gddr6x and hbm just for eth mining lol
sr. member
Activity: 2142
Merit: 353
Xtreme Monster
September 17, 2020, 03:01:32 AM
#76
well, after 2 years nvidia was able to reproduce Radeon VII eth performance with more wattage  Grin

Yeah but nvidia did not need hbm2. So all in fairness still impressive as is just gddr6x.
legendary
Activity: 1510
Merit: 1003
September 17, 2020, 12:25:35 AM
#75
well, after 2 years nvidia was able to reproduce Radeon VII eth performance with more wattage  Grin
legendary
Activity: 3444
Merit: 1061
September 16, 2020, 07:45:02 PM
#74
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OX9Eh_NaC5c

tear down video shows that this 3080 founders edition cards are going to be pretty much dust resistant (at least for the boards). a good feature for mining since cleaning is part of maintenance hehe
sr. member
Activity: 2142
Merit: 353
Xtreme Monster
September 16, 2020, 06:53:00 PM
#73
Hashrate isn't really impressive Sad
Ratio hashrate/price is almost the same as the AMD RX5700.

What? is not impressive? what world are you living in? For mining, 3080 and the 1080ti in the past were the only ones expensive enough that was and is worth to buy.
jr. member
Activity: 94
Merit: 5
September 16, 2020, 06:38:15 PM
#72



I'm curious what is the wattage use with those hashrates?
hero member
Activity: 2548
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fly or die
September 16, 2020, 04:49:17 PM
#71
Most probably nvidia will lock the bios and make it less efficient for mining. . We need compute drivers for nvidia gaming cards. . :-)

Because they Hate money ?

Don't worry, nvidia is doing fine. In fact it's becoming a bit scary, having bought out ARM : https://www.marketwatch.com/story/nvidias-deal-with-arm-paves-the-path-to-a-trillion-dollar-market-value-2020-09-14 It smells like another giant with its hands in many cookie jars. Let's hope AMD isn't left in the dust, and Intel finally comes up with a decent GPU.
legendary
Activity: 3444
Merit: 1061
September 16, 2020, 01:02:21 PM
#70
Hashrate isn't really impressive Sad
Ratio hashrate/price is almost the same as the AMD RX5700.

as is efficiency

the big gain is density

the board below can do 5 amd cards 4 x 5700 and 1 x 5600

https://www.ebay.com/itm/biostar-TB250-BTC-D-Pro-Motherboard-Mining/124217882169?

it will do 230-240 mh

or use same board with 4x 3080 and do  320mh

plus the advantage of mining other algos ... and significantly faster at those algos
legendary
Activity: 4256
Merit: 8551
'The right to privacy matters'
September 16, 2020, 01:00:33 PM
#69
Hashrate isn't really impressive Sad
Ratio hashrate/price is almost the same as the AMD RX5700.

as is efficiency

the big gain is density

the board below can do 5 amd cards 4 x 5700 and 1 x 5600

https://www.ebay.com/itm/biostar-TB250-BTC-D-Pro-Motherboard-Mining/124217882169?

it will do 230-240 mh

or use same board with 4x 3080 and do  320mh
hero member
Activity: 539
Merit: 517
September 16, 2020, 12:51:42 PM
#68
Hashrate isn't really impressive Sad
Ratio hashrate/price is almost the same as the AMD RX5700.
jr. member
Activity: 298
Merit: 3
September 16, 2020, 10:44:22 AM
#67
And does anyone have reliable results?


i hope we will see reliable results in couple days after today youtuber can review rtx 3080.
newbie
Activity: 20
Merit: 0
September 16, 2020, 09:04:34 AM
#66
And does anyone have reliable results?
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