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Topic: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs - page 8. (Read 3947 times)

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September 02, 2020, 01:26:29 PM
#25
I think, today already its not very likely that ETH switch to POS (same as assuming that Bitcoin switch to POS).
jr. member
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September 02, 2020, 10:25:05 AM
#24
I currently have RX480's in 2 Rigs of 4 each , which already got past the ROI mark . AMD Big Navi will be the next step for me but these 3070 are tempting , as by the time bignavi comes to consumer market , i guess ETH may swtich to POS.

Eth has been switching to pos since 2017.

Once it switches it will die.

I don't really understand why you say it'll die on POS.  It won't be the only one having done POS, and IMO if you read on the work going on at that end I do think there is some very weighty legitimacy in the project.  I do think if a person is "in crypto" it makes sense to have your eye on not only mining, but also staking, liquidity and validating.  It's all part of the system and you can make money on all parts.
newbie
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September 02, 2020, 10:21:15 AM
#23
I believe once Eth switches, GPU mining the way it exists today will be gone.
Anyway to the topic, not sure about Hashrate but these cards are monsters, good move from Nvidia.
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
September 02, 2020, 10:08:33 AM
#22
I currently have RX480's in 2 Rigs of 4 each , which already got past the ROI mark . AMD Big Navi will be the next step for me but these 3070 are tempting , as by the time bignavi comes to consumer market , i guess ETH may swtich to POS.

Eth has been switching to pos since 2017.

Once it switches it will die.
hero member
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September 02, 2020, 06:24:51 AM
#21
I currently have RX480's in 2 Rigs of 4 each , which already got past the ROI mark . AMD Big Navi will be the next step for me but these 3070 are tempting , as by the time bignavi comes to consumer market , i guess ETH may swtich to POS.
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fly or die
September 02, 2020, 04:23:12 AM
#20
The 3080 seems reasonably priced for the performance. All who sold their 2080 in the last few months have made the right call, now the 2080 just lost a lot of value. I'm talking gaming performance here, for mining we shall wait for some tests/optimizations.

These prices also make me think that nvidia expects a strong showing from AMD so that's a good thing, too.
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September 02, 2020, 12:52:36 AM
#19
with requiring an addition power plug i cant stop thinking it will be power hungry.
liking my 5700xt at 57.5 at under 120w.
but we shall see

They sure are very power hungry indeed. AMD used to get a lot of hate and critisism for using a ton of power, people used to laugh and said you could use the 290x's as heaters during wintertime. With these new 3000 Nvidia series maybe people will start telling the same jokes about 3080 and 3090.
sr. member
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September 01, 2020, 09:34:17 PM
#18
I've jotted down some quick napkin math.  Hashrate isn't necessarily perfectly linear to total memory bandwidth, but it is a somewhat reasonable analogue to give round numbers.

RTX 3090* ~935-1008 GBps
RTX 3080* 760 GBps
RX 5700 XT - 480 GBps  -  58 mh/s (eth)
RTX 2080ti - 616 GBps - 52 mh/s (eth)
GTX 1660 super - 336 GBps - 30 mh/s (eth)
RX 580 - 256 GBps - 30 mh/s (eth)

I think it would be somewhat reasonable to take a guess at 3080 hashrates in the 60s or low 70s and 3090 in the 90s.  They are neither low tdp nor cheap, so to me this doesn't represent a value proposition.  But ymmv.

Source for the RTX 3000 card : https://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3070-8-gb-official-launch-price-specs-performance/

RTX 3090          - 936 Gbps - 75~80mh/s (eth) ??
RTX 3080          - 760 Gbps - 63~67mh/s (eth) ??
RTX 3070          - 512 GBps - 40~45mh/s (eth) ??
RX 5700 XT       - 480 GBps - 58 mh/s (eth)
RTX 2080ti        - 616 GBps - 52 mh/s (eth)
GTX 1660 super - 336 GBps - 30 mh/s (eth)
RX 580             - 256 GBps - 30 mh/s (eth)

If that's the case, it looks like sticking with RX 5700 XT would be better.

We can't really just linearly correlate hashing power like that. Factors such as the new GDDR6X compared to the previous GDDR5 versions could offer a boost to hash power and much more, or not. If i had to guess the hashing power boost should be much better.

Anyway i'm convinced to get a 3080 with the new price range. At least one.
jr. member
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September 01, 2020, 07:26:28 PM
#17
with requiring an addition power plug i cant stop thinking it will be power hungry.
liking my 5700xt at 57.5 at under 120w.
but we shall see
sr. member
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Xtreme Monster
September 01, 2020, 06:10:26 PM
#16
i wonder if the gddr6x ram will need a "pill" like the gddr5x did to perform well.
The 3070 looks like an interesting card if it can hash as well as a 2080ti for £500

nvidia gimped 3070, the only card to must have at moment is 3080. Yeah, it will have the pill but like everything else, public release will take time, will most likely be for only friends and relatives ehhe
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September 01, 2020, 06:07:04 PM
#15
i wonder if the gddr6x ram will need a "pill" like the gddr5x did to perform well.
The 3070 looks like an interesting card if it can hash as well as a 2080ti for £500
sr. member
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Xtreme Monster
September 01, 2020, 06:06:43 PM
#14
RTX 3090          - 936 Gbps - 75~80mh/s (eth) ??
RTX 3080          - 760 Gbps - 63~67mh/s (eth) ??
RTX 3070          - 512 GBps - 40~45mh/s (eth) ??
RX 5700 XT       - 480 GBps - 58 mh/s (eth)
RTX 2080ti        - 616 GBps - 52 mh/s (eth)
GTX 1660 super - 336 GBps - 30 mh/s (eth)
RX 580             - 256 GBps - 30 mh/s (eth)

If they find a way to replaced factory timings on the 3080, it could be as high as radeon vii, 90mh/s, default will be around 65 mh/s. If big navi comes with hbm which will not be as rumours suggest then it would be a killer, around 140 mh/s.
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September 01, 2020, 03:17:03 PM
#13
Impressive new 3000 Nvidia cards. Double the effect of the 2000 series? Also the highest cards draw massive amounts of power (use them as heaters during the winter time in the colder parts of the world)? Would be exiting to see if the big navi Nvidia killer actually kills this launch???
hero member
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September 01, 2020, 01:54:33 PM
#12
I've jotted down some quick napkin math.  Hashrate isn't necessarily perfectly linear to total memory bandwidth, but it is a somewhat reasonable analogue to give round numbers.

RTX 3090* ~935-1008 GBps
RTX 3080* 760 GBps
RX 5700 XT - 480 GBps  -  58 mh/s (eth)
RTX 2080ti - 616 GBps - 52 mh/s (eth)
GTX 1660 super - 336 GBps - 30 mh/s (eth)
RX 580 - 256 GBps - 30 mh/s (eth)

I think it would be somewhat reasonable to take a guess at 3080 hashrates in the 60s or low 70s and 3090 in the 90s.  They are neither low tdp nor cheap, so to me this doesn't represent a value proposition.  But ymmv.

Source for the RTX 3000 card : https://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3070-8-gb-official-launch-price-specs-performance/

RTX 3090          - 936 Gbps - 75~80mh/s (eth) ??
RTX 3080          - 760 Gbps - 63~67mh/s (eth) ??
RTX 3070          - 512 GBps - 40~45mh/s (eth) ??
RX 5700 XT       - 480 GBps - 58 mh/s (eth)
RTX 2080ti        - 616 GBps - 52 mh/s (eth)
GTX 1660 super - 336 GBps - 30 mh/s (eth)
RX 580             - 256 GBps - 30 mh/s (eth)

If that's the case, it looks like sticking with RX 5700 XT would be better.
hero member
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September 01, 2020, 01:20:09 PM
#11






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September 01, 2020, 03:27:42 AM
#10
I've jotted down some quick napkin math.  Hashrate isn't necessarily perfectly linear to total memory bandwidth, but it is a somewhat reasonable analogue to give round numbers.

RTX 3090* ~935-1008 GBps
RTX 3080* 760 GBps
RX 5700 XT - 480 GBps  -  58 mh/s (eth)
RTX 2080ti - 616 GBps - 52 mh/s (eth)
GTX 1660 super - 336 GBps - 30 mh/s (eth)
RX 580 - 256 GBps - 30 mh/s (eth)

I think it would be somewhat reasonable to take a guess at 3080 hashrates in the 60s or low 70s and 3090 in the 90s.  They are neither low tdp nor cheap, so to me this doesn't represent a value proposition.  But ymmv.
It will be better to buy two GTX 1660 super that will give you 60MH/S than buying RTX3080 than will only produce 60+ MH/S for insane price, I'm guessing the price will start around 2800$ or more, this can get me 7 to 8 GTX 1660 super 😎
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September 01, 2020, 03:23:49 AM
#9
It's been said time again but i feel like it's important to reiterate: Do your research! Don't get into mining because of the hype.

I think nvidia and amd is pumping eth so they know they will sell every one of their gpus for whatever price they will ask for, eliminate gpus like rx 580 and 1070 and pave the way for amazing returns for their new gpus. Idiots will buy 3080 for 2000~3000 usd, idiots back in 2018 bought volta titans https://www.amazon.com/NVIDIA-TITAN-VOLTA-12GB-VIDEO/dp/B078G1VHYN for 3500 usd for mining.
Why called them idiots? I'm sure every miners buy GPUs based on their mining calculations, what makes you think they never make back their ROI using Titan GPU to mine? People don't just buy without doing research first
jr. member
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August 31, 2020, 10:46:22 PM
#8
Most probably nvidia will lock the bios and make it less efficient for mining. . We need compute drivers for nvidia gaming cards. . :-)
sr. member
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August 31, 2020, 02:54:08 PM
#7
The leaked prices are just the baseline.
Once, OEMs get there hands-on, the prices will be pretty more than that.
Not to mention, miner updates to support new-gen GPUs and such before any definitive testing and true capability of the card can be determined.
So, It's a sure waiting game till then.
jr. member
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August 31, 2020, 11:14:41 AM
#6
The prices are missing. Personally I'm looking at these cards as a player first and foremost. If mining makes economic sense I might mine when I'm not playing, but I doubt it. Cooling isn't an issue as I watercool.

I expect the prices to be eye-watering though. Let's hope AMD can get back in the high end, high performance game soon.

From multiple leaks:

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GeForce RTX 3090 $1399, RTX 3080: $799, RTX 3070: $599, RTX 3060: $399
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