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Xtreme Monster
September 18, 2020, 08:10:18 AM
It definitely isn't the king of mining in terms of efficiency for ETH. 2.52W/MH puts it roughly equal to my 2080.
If it is hampered by the gddr6x, then the 3070 should fare better at ETH - 60MH @ 150W? That would be rx5700 level.


uh? you say equal and yet you did not say your hashrate, taking the value from whattomine, it says, 2080, 38 mhs 160 watts, rx 5700 or 3070 will not come close to price performance of the 3080 and density, you can deny all day long but when numbers are real, is time you trolls accept the reality, at moment there is nothing better than 3080 overall which yes makes it the gpu king of mining.

Yes i said equal, as you were talking about efficiency in terms of W/MH for ETH. Based on that metric, i disagree with your statement that the 3080 is the "king of mining in terms of efficiency".
The hashrate of my 2080 does not matter as we are talking about W/MH, but fwiw, on average, my cards do 41.4MH @ 105W-110W atw.


It's funny, because you said something and my post says something different, so I will Paraphrase it here again "rx 5700 or 3070 will not come close to price performance of the 3080 and density", and by the way, I would not buy a rtx 2080 even it it was $300 at this moment, 200 usd at moment I would think about.

Yes it is different from what you said, because you edited out the "efficiency" word from your op.
I do agree with you that i would not buy a 2080 even at $300, however i would buy an rx 5700.

I did not edit and do you know what proves i did not, is your reply, it quoted what I wrote at that moment of your reply, check your quote, if you want to know more about it then ask an admin of the site how reply or quote works.
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September 18, 2020, 08:03:10 AM
It definitely isn't the king of mining in terms of efficiency for ETH. 2.52W/MH puts it roughly equal to my 2080.
If it is hampered by the gddr6x, then the 3070 should fare better at ETH - 60MH @ 150W? That would be rx5700 level.


uh? you say equal and yet you did not say your hashrate, taking the value from whattomine, it says, 2080, 38 mhs 160 watts, rx 5700 or 3070 will not come close to price performance of the 3080 and density, you can deny all day long but when numbers are real, is time you trolls accept the reality, at moment there is nothing better than 3080 overall which yes makes it the gpu king of mining.

Yes i said equal, as you were talking about efficiency in terms of W/MH for ETH. Based on that metric, i disagree with your statement that the 3080 is the "king of mining in terms of efficiency".
The hashrate of my 2080 does not matter as we are talking about W/MH, but fwiw, on average, my cards do 41.4MH @ 105W-110W atw.


It's funny, because you said something and my post says something different, so I will Paraphrase it here again "rx 5700 or 3070 will not come close to price performance of the 3080 and density", and by the way, I would not buy a rtx 2080 even it it was $300 at this moment, 200 usd at moment I would think about.

Yes it is different from what you said, because you edited out the "efficiency" word from your op.
I do agree with you that i would not buy a 2080 even at $300, however i would buy an rx 5700.
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September 18, 2020, 08:00:47 AM
W/MH is an important measure, but you must also consider the price of the cards. I can find a 5700XT for about 350€ in Europe, meanwhile I can't find a 3080 , but if I could it would be more than twice that amount. How much electricity would the difference pay, accounting also for the density of cards on rigs ? You have to take everything into account.

In terms of £/W/MH then there is no contest for 3080 - the rx5600/5700 is way better.
5700: £350, 2.1W/MH versus 3080 £650, 2.5W/MH.
sr. member
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Xtreme Monster
September 18, 2020, 07:59:34 AM
It definitely isn't the king of mining in terms of efficiency for ETH. 2.52W/MH puts it roughly equal to my 2080.
If it is hampered by the gddr6x, then the 3070 should fare better at ETH - 60MH @ 150W? That would be rx5700 level.


uh? you say equal and yet you did not say your hashrate, taking the value from whattomine, it says, 2080, 38 mhs 160 watts, rx 5700 or 3070 will not come close to price performance of the 3080 and density, you can deny all day long but when numbers are real, is time you trolls accept the reality, at moment there is nothing better than 3080 overall which yes makes it the gpu king of mining.

Yes i said equal, as you were talking about efficiency in terms of W/MH for ETH. Based on that metric, i disagree with your statement that the 3080 is the "king of mining in terms of efficiency".
The hashrate of my 2080 does not matter as we are talking about W/MH, but fwiw, on average, my cards do 41.4MH @ 105W-110W atw.


It's funny, because you said something and my post says something different, so I will Paraphrase it here again "rx 5700 or 3070 will not come close to price performance of the 3080 and density", and by the way, I would not buy a rtx 2080 even it it was $300 at this moment, 200 usd at moment I would think about.
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September 18, 2020, 07:53:16 AM
It definitely isn't the king of mining in terms of efficiency for ETH. 2.52W/MH puts it roughly equal to my 2080.
If it is hampered by the gddr6x, then the 3070 should fare better at ETH - 60MH @ 150W? That would be rx5700 level.


uh? you say equal and yet you did not say your hashrate, taking the value from whattomine, it says, 2080, 38 mhs 160 watts, rx 5700 or 3070 will not come close to price performance of the 3080 and density, you can deny all day long but when numbers are real, is time you trolls accept the reality, at moment there is nothing better than 3080 overall which yes makes it the gpu king of mining.

Yes i said equal, as you were talking about efficiency in terms of W/MH for ETH. Based on that metric, i disagree with your statement that the 3080 is the "king of mining in terms of efficiency".
The hashrate of my 2080 does not matter as we are talking about W/MH, but fwiw, on average, my cards do 41.4MH @ 105W-110W atw.
sr. member
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Xtreme Monster
September 18, 2020, 07:42:02 AM

Thanks for the video. I wonder how safe is 800+ memory overclock. So without any drastic change, 2.52 watts per megahash, incredible, certainly the gpu king of mining for now.

Been reading some posts here, mostly reading a bunch of nonsense and speculation, usually not worth replying to but this one I just had to reply to.

2.52w the king of mining?

My almost 2 year old R7: 2.1W/Mh.
My 3 year old Vega 56: 2.5W/Mh (and this can be improved)
My 5700: 2.2W/Mh

Great king you've got there.

Is it a king for gaming purposes? Yeah, most probably! But so far, not for mining (efficiency wise).

Please try to be objective and don't let your fanboyism get the better of you.

Cheers ;-)

"certainly the gpu king of mining for now." Is that really wrong? Do the numbers say I said bs? Is there a better GPU right now regarding efficiency and density?

Fanboyism, really? Do the numbers say is really fanboyism? on the contrary, the numbers support my statement, tell me a gpu that does 95 mhs and uses 240 watts and yes it can be improved it too. As per my post I clearly said efficiency and density here. See how i did not need to lower to your level. There is no need to attack the poster when the numbers clearly say it all.

It depends the price now. $699 3080 10gb, lets hope maximum for a 20gb is $849.

https://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3080-20-gb-rtx-3070-16-gb-rtx-3060-8-gb-graphics-cards-confirmed/


The price of $ 699 (590 euros) is on paper only. In EU stores, the cheapest RTX3080 models cost around 750 euros ($ 887).


What paper is this? if your country you live in has tax and other things to pay, like resellers getting a gold opportunity to get some extra money, do not blame nvidia, that does not mean is "paper only", check the US store websites, every manufacture had a $699 version or very close to it difference to it was marginally low, $730 or so.
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September 18, 2020, 07:40:45 AM
#99
It depends the price now. $699 3080 10gb, lets hope maximum for a 20gb is $849.

https://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3080-20-gb-rtx-3070-16-gb-rtx-3060-8-gb-graphics-cards-confirmed/


The price of $ 699 (590 euros) is on paper only. In EU stores, the cheapest RTX3080 models cost around 750 euros ($ 887). Many models are 800 euros ($ 947) and more .
legendary
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Huh?
September 18, 2020, 07:05:40 AM
#98

Thanks for the video. I wonder how safe is 800+ memory overclock. So without any drastic change, 2.52 watts per megahash, incredible, certainly the gpu king of mining for now.

Been reading some posts here, mostly reading a bunch of nonsense and speculation, usually not worth replying to but this one I just had to reply to.

2.52w the king of mining?

My almost 2 year old R7: 2.1W/Mh.
My 3 year old Vega 56: 2.5W/Mh (and this can be improved)
My 5700: 2.2W/Mh

Great king you've got there.

Is it a king for gaming purposes? Yeah, most probably! But so far, not for mining (efficiency wise).

Please try to be objective and don't let your fanboyism get the better of you.

Cheers ;-)
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Xtreme Monster
September 18, 2020, 06:50:02 AM
#97
It depends the price now. $699 3080 10gb, lets hope maximum for a 20gb is $849.

https://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3080-20-gb-rtx-3070-16-gb-rtx-3060-8-gb-graphics-cards-confirmed/
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fly or die
September 18, 2020, 05:21:19 AM
#96
W/MH is an important measure, but you must also consider the price of the cards. I can find a 5700XT for about 350€ in Europe, meanwhile I can't find a 3080 , but if I could it would be more than twice that amount. How much electricity would the difference pay, accounting also for the density of cards on rigs ? You have to take everything into account.
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Xtreme Monster
September 18, 2020, 03:04:37 AM
#95
It definitely isn't the king of mining in terms of efficiency for ETH. 2.52W/MH puts it roughly equal to my 2080.
If it is hampered by the gddr6x, then the 3070 should fare better at ETH - 60MH @ 150W? That would be rx5700 level.


uh? you say equal and yet you did not say your hashrate, taking the value from whattomine, it says, 2080, 38 mhs 160 watts, rx 5700 or 3070 will not come close to price performance of the 3080 and density, you can deny all day long but when numbers are real, is time you trolls accept the reality, at moment there is nothing better than 3080 overall which yes makes it the gpu king of mining.
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September 18, 2020, 02:52:19 AM
#94

Thanks for the video. I wonder how safe is 800+ memory overclock. So without any drastic change, 2.52 watts per megahash, incredible, certainly the gpu king of mining for now.

It definitely isn't the king of mining in terms of efficiency for ETH. 2.52W/MH puts it roughly equal to my 2080.
If it is hampered by the gddr6x, then the 3070 should fare better at ETH - 60MH @ 150W? That would be rx5700 level.
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September 17, 2020, 07:50:46 PM
#93
Need to see other alogs, slightly less efficient then a 5700 on eth but density is a winner and I would assume much better on other algos.
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Xtreme Monster
September 17, 2020, 03:42:16 PM
#91

Thanks for the video. I wonder how safe is 800+ memory overclock. So without any drastic change, 2.52 watts per megahash, incredible, certainly the gpu king of mining for now.
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Xtreme Monster
September 17, 2020, 08:55:54 AM
#89
^ That escalated quickly.

Anyway, did anyone here get to buy a 3080? I was refreshing Nvidia, Amazon, Newegg, Bestbuy, and Lazada like crazy. But all out of stock within seconds! Nvidia is good at creating extreme demand for their GPUs lol.

It escalated because nvidia itself said stock would be limited. If they have said, do not worry we have lots in stock then people would have calmed down. Limit 1 gpu per household, truth here is that people bought to resell them, buy for $699 and sell for $999 on ebay or other places easy.
sr. member
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September 17, 2020, 08:30:59 AM
#88
^ That escalated quickly.

Anyway, did anyone here get to buy a 3080? I was refreshing Nvidia, Amazon, Newegg, Bestbuy, and Lazada like crazy. But all out of stock within seconds! Nvidia is good at creating extreme demand for their GPUs lol.
legendary
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September 17, 2020, 07:25:50 AM
#87
arielbit you're not making much sense. These cards are for gaming, it's totally possible that the memory bus is tailored for that, for cost reasons, and that if you could have more memory bandwidth it would help for mining. If you look at the RTX 3080 vs 3090, it's the same chip, so the 3080 could be run on the same PCB as the 3090 with the same memory bus (you'd have to not fuse off parts of the memory controller of course) and you would get a gain for mining. However the card would be more expensive, and games wouldn't benefit much, so nvidia doesn't do it.

In the past it has happened that a high end GPU was remade on a smaller process, the memory bus cut, and that was the new middle end GPU.

that's why i said it is already a "product", nvidia/amd engineering and marketing department has already sorted it all out.

you can all throw your mumbo jumbo tech interpretations and examples out there with your basic arithmetic but the fact is we just follow what these gpu manufacturers throw out there.

example: sxemini dick, got a phd in memory interface says 3080 is 65mh, but 3080 can deliver 93mh (mining software and driver not yet optimized) LOL

the bottom line is..its the hashes per card we want (efficiency included).


How can I calculate the memory bandwidth thats important for ETH mining:

(memory clock in Hz × Memory Interface ÷ 8 ) × memory clock type multiplier = Bandwidth in MB/s

memory clock type multiplier:
HBM1 / HBM2: 2
GDDR3: 2
GDDR5: 4
GDDR5X: 8


me:...writing this in my palm

come here sxemini....i slap this on your stupid face.

who the fuck cares? you are already wrong and you give me this stupid fucking formula like some Einstein piece of shit haha


here let me show you my formula.

buy 3080, plug it in your computer, mine with it.  Cool
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fly or die
September 17, 2020, 07:09:12 AM
#86
arielbit you're not making much sense. These cards are for gaming, it's totally possible that the memory bus is tailored for that, for cost reasons, and that if you could have more memory bandwidth it would help for mining. If you look at the RTX 3080 vs 3090, it's the same chip, so the 3080 could be run on the same PCB as the 3090 with the same memory bus (you'd have to not fuse off parts of the memory controller of course) and you would get a gain for mining. However the card would be more expensive, and games wouldn't benefit much, so nvidia doesn't do it.

In the past it has happened that a high end GPU was remade on a smaller process, the memory bus cut, and that was the new middle end GPU.
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