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Topic: New Terrorists attacks in Paris and a note on who didn't do them. - page 2. (Read 4076 times)

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it's unforgiveable. more than 100 inocent people lost their lives. It was set up by Islamic state fundamentalists, and they need to be stopped!

It´s a little late now. They´ve had years to carve out their own country in the ruins of Iraq and Syria. And western powers created the perfect environment for them  in Lybia where they are  entrenched as well.
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it's unforgiveable. more than 100 inocent people lost their lives. It was set up by Islamic state fundamentalists, and they need to be stopped!
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http://beforeitsnews.com/politics/2015/11/9-reasons-the-terrorist-attacks-in-paris-could-be-a-false-flag-event-2756906.html

...false flag attacks....

the false flag operation....

large scale false flags such as 9/11 as well as smaller scale attacks like the Aurora shooting.....

Charlie Hebdo attacks, however, were largely revealed as a false flag operation.....

ISIS was entirely created, funded and directed by the United States, Britain, France and other NATO countries. Its actions have been coordinated by the Anglo-American Intelligence apparatus

Wheeee!!!!

Here come the Conspiracy Theories!

Give it a rest.It isn´t working anymore. People have seen too many lies and scams from officialdom.
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http://beforeitsnews.com/politics/2015/11/9-reasons-the-terrorist-attacks-in-paris-could-be-a-false-flag-event-2756906.html

...false flag attacks....

the false flag operation....

large scale false flags such as 9/11 as well as smaller scale attacks like the Aurora shooting.....

Charlie Hebdo attacks, however, were largely revealed as a false flag operation.....

ISIS was entirely created, funded and directed by the United States, Britain, France and other NATO countries. Its actions have been coordinated by the Anglo-American Intelligence apparatus

Wheeee!!!!

Here come the Conspiracy Theories!
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Yeah yeah, the Ministry of Truth is always at the ready.  Grin
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http://beforeitsnews.com/politics/2015/11/9-reasons-the-terrorist-attacks-in-paris-could-be-a-false-flag-event-2756906.html

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My heart goes out to anyone who lost a family member in these horrific attacks, it does, but once again, history tells us to keep a watchful eye over what happens next. With details still sketchy at best, and the number of dead or injured being very fluid, one number I noticed in the video below was not fluid: President Hollande declared a state of emergency and mobilized 1,500 troops to patrol Paris streets. In the video, you’ll see an article that says “officials“ have the right to perform searches, and “military justice” may be enacted. I assume that means citizens can get ventilated if they aren’t fully cooperative, no questions asked… but who knows? Also in one article, Obama promises to do “whatever it takes” to bring the terrorists to justice. Hmmmm.

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1.) How many gunmen? Already, the number of individuals involved in the Paris attacks is in question. While some reports suggested four shooters were involved, others suggested three. The majority of mainstream reports seem to be only acknowledging two shooters. So how many shooters were there? Two, three or four? One witness, Pierre Marie Bertin, a 36-year-old who was at the theater when the shooting began, stated that there were as many as four gunmen. Bertin described some male hostages who “went onto the balcony and tried to negotiate for the life of their wives with one of the guys [terrorists]. It was sickening.” Bertin recounted somewhat more detail than some other witnesses and was clear that there were as many as four gunmen. Australian news media is reporting that three gunmen have been killed.

This might seem inconsequential to many readers, but, in informed researching circles, it is well-known that the information that comes out shortly after the event is usually the most reliable. This is not to discount the existence of confusion related to panicked reports coming from eyewitnesses and the like. However, the information coming out early on has not yet been subjected to the top-down media revision that will inevitably take place as the story becomes molded to fit the narrative pushed by the individuals who either directed the attack at the higher levels or at least have connections with those who are able to control the manner in which various media outlets report the event. For instance, in times of false flag attacks, the initial reports may point to 5 gunmen. Very shortly after, reports may only mention two. Only a few hours after the attack, however, all references to more than one gunmen are removed entirely, with only the “lone gunman” story remaining. Any other mention of additional gunmen after this point is ridiculed as “conspiracy theory.”

2.) The types of weapons used – While some reports suggest that the attackers were using AK-47s, other reports are suggesting that shotguns were used. While the contradiction in reports can certainly be attributed to victims and witnesses simply not being aware of the type of weapons being used in the attacks and panic in the heat of the moment, there is none the less contradiction in the reports being issued. As of the time of the writing of this article there has been no clarification as to what type of weapons were used. Since the assailants were supposedly killed by police it should be clear what weapons they used.

3.) Were the gunmen killed or arrested? While the number of gunmen itself is in doubt, news reports coming from Fox and Sky are suggesting that a suspected gunmen was actually arrested. In fact, the suspect allegedly stated to police, “I am from ISIS” giving us all the information we need as for who is responsible for this attack.

4.) Gunmen connected to ISIS, gunmen connected to Syria – Along with the very convenient and immediate statement by an allegedly arrested suspect that he was from ISIS, we also have screams of a shooter that “This is for Syria!” This gives us all the information that we need regarding the motivation of the alleged attackers. They are from ISIS. They hate the French because the French are “attacking” ISIS and because somewhere in France in a very darkened corner, under the sofa, there are freedoms. ISIS hates freedoms. This is quite coincidental considering the fact that a Russian airliner was recently bombed, allegedly by ISIS – at least according to the West.

5.) The timing of the event – Aside from the obvious connotations derived from the attacks occurring on Friday the 13th, the Paris massacre has taken place shortly before a major climate summit that was set to take place in France. The French government was expecting massive protests they alleged could potentially become violent, by activists opposed to globalization and energy austerity. Interestingly enough, France had already planned to impose border controls starting on November 30th in anticipation of the U.N. Conference on Climate Change in Paris “because of the terrorist threat or risk of public disorder.” Needless to say, there will be no massive protest now considering the fact that 2015 France resembles the 1943 version of itself more than anything else.

6.) Security – Considering the fact that the security had been so heightened both on the heels of the Charlie Hebdo attacks and the anticipation of disorder for the U.N. Conference on Climate Change, how on earth did such a major terror attack slip through the hands of the DGSE? After all, France is nothing if not a police state. It is also giving the United States a run for its money in the contest for how much information it is able to nab up on its citizens. No doubt, we will be sold the line of “pre-civilized savages outsmarted first-world high end military surveillance states.”

7.) Drills – One hallmark of the false flag operation is the running of drills shortly before or during the actual attack. Many times, these drills will involve the actual sequence of events that takes place during the real life attack . These drills have been present on large scale false flags such as 9/11 as well as smaller scale attacks like the Aurora shooting.

For instance, as Webster Tarpley documents in his book 9/11 Synthetic Terror: Made In USA, at least 46 drills were underway in the months leading up to 9/11 and on the morning of the attack. These 46 drills were all directly related to the events which took place on 9/11 in some way or other. Likewise, the 7/7 bombings in London were running drills of exactly the same scenario that was occurring at exactly the same times and locations.

Although one reason may take precedence over the other depending on the nature and purpose of the operation drills are used by false flag operators for at least two reasons. One such purpose is the creation of intentional confusion if the drill is taking place during the actual attack. The other, more effective aspect, however, is using the drill as a cloak to plan the attack or even “go live” when it comes time to launch the event. Even more so, it gives the individuals who are involved in the planning of the event an element of cover, especially with the military/intelligence agency’s tight chain of command structure and need-to-know basis. If a loyal military officer or intelligence agent stumbles upon the planning of the attack, that individual can always be told that what he has witnessed is nothing more than the planning of a training exercise. This deniability continues all the way through to the actual “going live” of the drill. After the completion of the false flag attack, Coincidence Theory is used to explain away the tragic results.

All of this must be considered, when one reads reports suggesting that the UK conducted counter-terrorism drills earlier this year that included scenarios that involved terror attacks in Paris similar to those that took place on the Charlie Hebdo massacre. As the reports surrounding the UK drills were released, a number 10 spokesman confirmed “it had been agreed that future exercises, which take place on a regular basis, should seek to learn from events in France.” David Cameron himself stated that there was  a need for police “to call on military help if there was a major emergency.”

8.) Charlie Hebdo – The recent Paris attacks were similar to the Charlie Hebdo massacre that occurred earlier this year. The Charlie Hebdo attacks, however, were largely revealed as a false flag operation. Evidence for which can be seen in my article “15 Signs the Charlie Hebdo Attack Was a False Flag.” Thus, there exists a clear precedent for such attacks in France, albeit on a much larger scale

9.) Who controls ISIS? For many, claims that the attackers belong to ISIS is a deal breaker. For these individuals, ISIS is a shadowy terrorist organization that supports itself and has created a caliphate in eastern Syria and western Iraq that can scarcely be defeated (except when the Russians bomb it). However, the facts do not support such a shallow understanding of the ISIS terrorist organization. ISIS was entirely created, funded and directed by the United States, Britain, France and other NATO countries. Its actions have been coordinated by the Anglo-American Intelligence apparatus for geopolitical purposes all across the world both at home and abroad. For this reason, the declaration that ISIS committed a terrorist attack in Paris is by no means a get-out-of-jail-free card for the western Intelligence apparatus. Instead, it is the trademark of their handiwork. Please see these articles for more information on the nature of ISIS: here, here, here and here.

Also.

http://goldenageofgaia.com/2015/11/14/wikipedia-full-coverage-paris-massacre-less-two-hours-event/

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The massacre in Paris is reported to have occurred at 21:16 CET.

By 23:06 Wikipedia had an article up that is extremely detailed, containing statements from a former French President and a complete outline of events at several locations, matters that the press I read had not by then reported.

It piqued my interest that an article would be up on Wikipedia within two hours of the event happening. So I went there.

I began reading the current version of the article and then decided to read a much earlier version. I chose the 23:18 version for this article, not overly consciously. At that point I did not understand very much.

By the time I got myself organized here, I saw that the earliest versions of the article had just been erased from Wikipedia’s change record. Everything before 00:00 was erased from the record, preventing access to the originals of the story. That aroused my suspicions immediately.

(That list of deleted versions was gotten again by going to the user page of the person who wrote the article, known only by his number 82.45.236.70. The list appeared there and the articles proved linkable and recoverable. You can reach them, until they’re taken down, by clicking on the list given in Footnote 1.)

(Thanks to the reader who identified the IP address (82.45.236.70) as belonging to a block of addresses assigned to VirginMedia Consumer Broadband UK.)

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Dead men tell no tales. This guy that they call so affectionately Jihadi John, perhaps beause he´s a buddy of theirs, was maybe killed the other day in Syria. A British citizen. They say he may be dead but U.S. officials say that they may never know for sure. Until in a few months when he pops up again. Maybe.  Grin
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http://news.yahoo.com/paris-attacked-police-hunt-accomplices-065411619.html

An interesting comment there, posted about 3 hours ago, if someone cares to scroll through them all:

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I have known for months that something like this was in the making. These events were almost certainly organized and/or provocateured by one or more intelligence agencies.....
This whole program of endless war, profiteering and plunder goes directly back to the mother of all false flag operations - 9/11. ....
And there we go, more conspiracy theories....

There is a conspiracy, no doubt about that, they didn´t appear there in Paris randomly. The official conspiracy theory so far seems to be that they are members of ISIS and conspired with others higher up there to carry out the attack. Pretty simple and straightforward. It may be so, I don´t know. It is true that usually these terrorist organizations are infiltrated by intelligence services. Much of the ISIS personnel in the Middle East is from France and Britain and other European countries. And actually from countries all over the world, the U.S. included.  It can go both ways; intelligence agents can go with others to the Middle East, terrorists can go with refugees back to Europe. There can be many possibilities. Who benefits? is usually the key question that those who prepare official conspiracy theories take care to avoid. Someone funds these operations the purpose is some kind of gain I presume.
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minds.com/Wilikon



'Just wait…' Islamic State reveals it has smuggled THOUSANDS of extremists into Europe


AN OPERATIVE working for Islamic State has revealed the terror group has successfully smuggled thousands of covert jihadists into Europe.


The Syrian operative claimed more than 4,000 covert ISIS gunmen had been smuggled into western nations – hidden amongst innocent refugees.

The ISIS smuggler, who is in his thirties and is described as having a trimmed jet-black beard, revealed the ongoing clandestine operation is a complete success.

"Just wait," he smiled.

The Islamic State operative spoke exclusively to BuzzFeed on the condition of anonymity and is believed to be the first to confirm plans to infiltrate western countries.


http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/555434/Islamic-State-ISIS-Smuggler-THOUSANDS-Extremists-into-Europe-Refugees


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Troy. Euro scale.


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http://news.yahoo.com/paris-attacked-police-hunt-accomplices-065411619.html

An interesting comment there, posted about 3 hours ago, if someone cares to scroll through them all:

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I have known for months that something like this was in the making. These events were almost certainly organized and/or provocateured by one or more intelligence agencies.....
This whole program of endless war, profiteering and plunder goes directly back to the mother of all false flag operations - 9/11. ....
And there we go, more conspiracy theories....
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U guys are aware that:
>Sharia law forbids gambling
>The arab world DOES NOT wanna replace petrodollars w/ BTC's
Huh?

Just friggin' nuke Mecca already. JFC.
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http://news.yahoo.com/paris-attacked-police-hunt-accomplices-065411619.html

An interesting comment there, posted about 3 hours ago, if someone cares to scroll through them all:

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I have known for months that something like this was in the making. These events were almost certainly organized and/or provocateured by one or more intelligence agencies. If you think that that's farfetched, do some research on "Operation Gladio". It included deadly terrorist bombings killing large numbers of people that were organized by NATO and the European secret services during the Cold War. Those atrocities were blamed on communists in order to reduce support of left-wing political options among the general public.
This time the goal is to provide propaganda for the NATO countries' neocolonial invasions and occupations of countries in the Mideast and North Africa that are rich in oil, gas and other resources. Russia's successful campaign in Syria is no doubt one of the factors that precipitated the execution of this plot.
If all of the Orwellian surveillance of the general public in western countries these days is being justified by the phony "War on Terror", then how did people who should have been top on the list of people being watched, manage to obtain the training and weapons needed to pull this off? The mercenary thugs known variously as ISIS, IS, and Al Qaeda, are the proxy army of the imperialists and warmongers. They are used to destabilize and create chaos in target countries that is cynically used to justify military interventions and the installation and/or support of puppet governments.
This whole program of endless war, profiteering and plunder goes directly back to the mother of all false flag operations - 9/11. That is why it is more urgent than ever to demand the real criminal investigation of that pivotal event before we're led once again like sheep into a world war. In today's world, with so much information available thanks to the internet, there is no more excuse for people to let their corrupt leaders manipulate them into supporting more war.


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So, more idiots want to blow themselves up and take others lives.

No, it's not the Jews, Israel or the Mossad.  Or the "zionist" blah blah blah whatever.

Let's stop the misinformation and propaganda machines before they even starts up thread titles insinuating otherwise.

It seems very convenient that Isis has claimed responsibility for the attacks.

I dont really have much to say on the matter but as much as is it terrible people in france suffer people all over the world suffer daily.
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I saw Europe 1 in France claim that the terrorists were teenagers, 15-18. No idea if that´s correct and I lost the link somehow. If it´s true I doubt that you´ll see it mentioned much in the mass media.


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Prosecutor Francois Molins: "We have to find out where they came from... and how they were financed"

Absolutely. To avoid the "mistakes" of others don´t repeat them.

Most of the 9/11 attackers were from Saudi Arabia which meant that U.S. lips smooched medieval Saudi fruitcake asses more than ever and every effort was made to avoid investigating the financing. It was ready-made villains from day one.
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If you come home and see two neighbours fighting, give them knives and weapons it will end well  Grin 
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When you shovel weapons into a war zone what the hell do you think happens? That universal peace will spontaneously break out in the region? Think you´ll be drowning in new friends? Right.
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French President Francois Hollande says the terror attacks on Paris were an “an act of war” and blamed Islamic State for the bloodshed.

Yeah, business has been  booming lately...more weapons deals with ISIS main sponsors...

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France: Saudi Arabia's New Arms Dealer

August 10, 2015

Influential members of the Saudi Arabian government believe that the United States—the kingdom’s most valuable strategic ally since 1945—has abandoned Riyadh on a host of regional issues, most notably Iran’s nuclear program. As the Saudis respond by seeking to enhance their political and economic relations with powers other than the United States, France sees an opportunity to supplant Washington as Riyadh’s closest ally. While it remains unlikely that Paris will entirely replace Washington as Saudi Arabia’s most important ally, France can compete with the United States to become the kingdom’s top supplier of advanced military technology in the future. ,,,

Although France’s economy barely maintains positive GDP growth rates, its arms industry is booming. As the world’s fourth largest arms exporter (behind the United States, Russia, and China), France sold nearly double the amount of arms in the first five months of 2015 (more than $16 billion) than in all of 2014. From 2010 to 2014, 38 percent of French arms exports went to the Middle East, making it the most important region for the country’s arms industry (30 percent went to Asia; 13 percent to Europe; 11 percent to North and South America; and four percent to Africa). France’s arms sales for the first half of 2015 created more than 30,000 jobs— significant for a country grappling with record high unemployment. ...

http://www.nationalinterest.org/feature/france-saudi-arabias-new-arms-dealer-13533
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The Greek government has announced one of the terrorist gunmen who had a part in killing over 120 in Paris on Friday evening entered Europe while masquerading as a refugee just six weeks ago.



http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/11/14/paris-terrorist-migrant-registered-refugee-greece/

In such a mass of people certainly is a lot of ISIL fighters who in a very easy way entering into all European countries.Just imagine that this what happened last night to become something that happens every day,and considering how many possible terrorists are already in the EU we can not hope anything good.

That is not so certain.  I thought the actions of ISIS, militarily, were pretty smart.  Take over oil wells and land and carve out a nation amidst weak middle eastern cultures.

I think it's really stupid to revert to Al Queda style terror bombings.  That will get them exterminated and yes it will get a lot of innocent civilians killed in the process.  Such is war.

They may have just jumped the shark.
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The Greek government has announced one of the terrorist gunmen who had a part in killing over 120 in Paris on Friday evening entered Europe while masquerading as a refugee just six weeks ago.



http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/11/14/paris-terrorist-migrant-registered-refugee-greece/

In such a mass of people certainly is a lot of ISIL fighters who in a very easy way entering into all European countries.Just imagine that this what happened last night to become something that happens every day,and considering how many possible terrorists are already in the EU we can not hope anything good.
"The big question on everyone's mind is: Were these attackers — if they turn out to be connected to one of the groups in Syria — were they homegrown terrorists or were they returning fighters?"
Now why do the European countries not pass a law that any person going to Syria to fight with ISIS or other terrorist groups automatically loses his host country citizenship. That way you do not have to accept returning battle trained citizens as they are in fact no longer citizens. And since Syria was their last country of origin they should be returned to Syria and flown to Latakia where Assad can deal with them. This tactic would cut back significantly on the number of people the security police would have to keep tabs on. Every little bit helps.
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Brilliantly put!
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