Topic: Newbie restrictions - page 284. (Read 442041 times)
I've been around for quite a while, but I am still labeled as a newbie as of today.
The time limit is a good idea, but requiring post count I don't see as great, it just encourages people to post useless stuff in the newbie section. Like this 
I wonder if something less rudimentary is better? For example, paying a 0.01 BC fee to remove noob title?
That sounds interesting, i would definitely pay that amount in order to get rid of the noob title
I wonder if something less rudimentary is better? For example, paying a 0.01 BC fee to remove noob title?
I agree that five posts and four hours sounds pretty reasonable. I think I can do it.
Gotta pay your dues to do more, I guess
As a newbie that sounds fair. Just putting my 2 cents in. Greetings from the West Coast :-)
Good way to weed out spam, and "rule breaking" post. Good Job!
only want to earn some coins
Well, I think they're a bit annoying. Four content-free posts in the Newbie section aren't that difficult.
Why don't you allow enabling an account with a Bitcoin transfer? I'd consider 1 Bitcent to be reasonable for purposes of spam blocking.
Why don't you allow enabling an account with a Bitcoin transfer? I'd consider 1 Bitcent to be reasonable for purposes of spam blocking.
Because it's a fair assumption that newbies come here to learn about bitcoin, and are unlikely to have any already.
Well, I think they're a bit annoying. Four content-free posts in the Newbie section aren't that difficult.
Why don't you allow enabling an account with a Bitcoin transfer? I'd consider 1 Bitcent to be reasonable for purposes of spam blocking.
Why don't you allow enabling an account with a Bitcoin transfer? I'd consider 1 Bitcent to be reasonable for purposes of spam blocking.
I think the rules are okay I know of a lot of forums where they require a lot more hours and posts.
Personally I have spent easily over 10 hours each week over the past 2 months, but I finally joined today as a user so I can buy / sell stuff for bitcoins and realized I can't post until I go through these trials.
Personally I have spent easily over 10 hours each week over the past 2 months, but I finally joined today as a user so I can buy / sell stuff for bitcoins and realized I can't post until I go through these trials.
This is a good idea.
Much more reasonable then a 50 post rule, at this way they can weed out most of the crap and not lose their minds over it, either.
(and even year long lurkers, such as myself)
...but we can't read your mind. Nowhere in your request did you say that.Why should it make a difference if someone claims to be a lurker? Anyone can do that. And no, you couldn't check my ip or anything, because I mostly browsed this site with Tor before needing to register.
Anyway, I know big forums have troubles with newbies. But a forced newbie section is quite extreme. FAQs and closing repeatedly asked questions by a sizable number of lower ranked moderators is the norm for a reason. It's much more friendly and doesn't create a giant hurdle that probably offends and deters intelligent new users more than your average joe.
Yeah, but we don't have, nor do we want, such a big moderator staff that we can do that. Hell, most of our moderators have their own projects they do outside of the forum. We're really understaffed, but we don't want to risk the possibility of a moderator becoming corrupt, as that's much worse. We don't even have the power to ban people. Due to a mass of trolling, only established posters are able to post in non-newbie sections. You are considered "established" if you have spent 4 hours online and have made 5 posts.
So basically I need to spam the newbie section 5 times and wait 4 hours so I can post on the form for the pool that I am in?
SMF forums has some nice modifications, that changes things bit harder for spambots!
I personally use 1 and 3 for my fps game clan forum and we have zero spam status
Akismet could make it surely more secured but i hate to reg in anywhere to get some
keys to use free program.
1. cb|Emailogin http://custom.simplemachines.org/mods/index.php?mod=1665
2. Akismet for SMF http://custom.simplemachines.org/mods/index.php?mod=544
3. Antibot Captcha Clock http://custom.simplemachines.org/mods/index.php?mod=1134
I personally use 1 and 3 for my fps game clan forum and we have zero spam status
Akismet could make it surely more secured but i hate to reg in anywhere to get some
keys to use free program.
1. cb|Emailogin http://custom.simplemachines.org/mods/index.php?mod=1665
2. Akismet for SMF http://custom.simplemachines.org/mods/index.php?mod=544
3. Antibot Captcha Clock http://custom.simplemachines.org/mods/index.php?mod=1134
We take every whitelist request seriously...
I am glad to hear this. Hard working moderators always have my respect and appreciation. (and even year long lurkers, such as myself)
...but we can't read your mind. Nowhere in your request did you say that.Why should it make a difference if someone claims to be a lurker? Anyone can do that. And no, you couldn't check my ip or anything, because I mostly browsed this site with Tor before needing to register.
Anyway, I know big forums have troubles with newbies. But a forced newbie section is quite extreme. FAQs and closing repeatedly asked questions by a sizable number of lower ranked moderators is the norm for a reason. It's much more friendly and doesn't create a giant hurdle that probably offends and deters intelligent new users more than your average joe.
The site says: Due to spam, non-established users can only post in the "newbies" section."
I would like to argue that this is a blatant lie. If we go by spam defined as defined by wikipedia, that is, paraphrased, "unsolicited bulk messages sent indiscriminately", then a quick peek at the reasons given for not whitelisting new users will show that something is amiss: A common reply is "try to resolve your issues in the newbie section". This reply directly admits that the message appears to be a legitimate issue. Otherwise, why would it be responded to at all? Thusly, people are being acknowledged as not spam while still being denied normal usage of the forum.
Maybe the restrictions are in place to prevent trolls and random clowns from making stupid posts
This. Spam, in this case, is the more general case of a bunch of people always asking the same questions, or trolling.I would like to argue that this is a blatant lie. If we go by spam defined as defined by wikipedia, that is, paraphrased, "unsolicited bulk messages sent indiscriminately", then a quick peek at the reasons given for not whitelisting new users will show that something is amiss: A common reply is "try to resolve your issues in the newbie section". This reply directly admits that the message appears to be a legitimate issue. Otherwise, why would it be responded to at all? Thusly, people are being acknowledged as not spam while still being denied normal usage of the forum.
Maybe the restrictions are in place to prevent trolls and random clowns from making stupid posts
but again, what do we have beyond a "try to charm the moderators" game. I've seen 1 line 'take my word for it' posts whitelisted, so surely the trolls can get in if they wish.
More goes on behind the scenes than you realize. In a whitelist review, every post the user has ever made is checked. Their post requesting whitelisting is only a small part of it.All we got here are power hungry mods (yeah, that's a new one for an internet forum, I know)
We take every whitelist request seriously... (and even year long lurkers, such as myself)
...but we can't read your mind. Nowhere in your request did you say that.Surely this can be done better, and in the interest of the good of bitcoin it really should be.
We agree. However, this is the best we can do for now.
I have to somewhat agree and can't believe how exceptionally difficult it is to post.Many of the the issues with the programs usually say to come here if you have an issue with said programs but it is very difficult to do if you can't reply.
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