[NEWS] Trump freezes immigration + POLL

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Quote from: Sithara007 on February 12, 2017, 09:25:21 AM

Quote from: Fireblazer on February 11, 2017, 03:22:08 PM

People always want to live in a good state. Migrants are not a problem if the state could direct the migration flows in the right direction. In any country needs workers. If they are to assimilate into society the state will benefit from this.

It is just a myth propagated by the liberals that any country is going to benefit out of illegal immigrants. How can a country benefit from these people, when they are exploiting the welfare payments, without paying the taxes?

Also, the entire population of the developed world is around 1 billion. The population of the developing nations is more than 6 billion. It is not practical to bring all these 6 billion to the developed nations.

And who told you that we are talking about all 6 billion? Please enter the requirement for migrants to abandon Islam, to work and to social benefits, not to obtain citizenship, and careful monitoring of their movements.

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Quote from: Fireblazer on February 11, 2017, 03:22:08 PM

People always want to live in a good state. Migrants are not a problem if the state could direct the migration flows in the right direction. In any country needs workers. If they are to assimilate into society the state will benefit from this.

It is just a myth propagated by the liberals that any country is going to benefit out of illegal immigrants. How can a country benefit from these people, when they are exploiting the welfare payments, without paying the taxes?

Also, the entire population of the developed world is around 1 billion. The population of the developing nations is more than 6 billion. It is not practical to bring all these 6 billion to the developed nations.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on February 11, 2017, 11:52:50 AM

Quote from: Flamma on February 11, 2017, 11:23:19 AM

I think its not a good idea, actually Trump being the president is not a good idea. Were talking about immigrants not refugees. He might also want to do a reality check. People around him are immigrants, that includes his wife. So if he's scared of terrorists, he needs a tighter security at his airports not ban people from coming in to the country who are already citizens of the US.

You need to differentiate illegal immigrants from legal immigrants. Donald Trump's wife legally immigrated to the United States more than two decades back. She paid her taxes, and waited patiently in the line to get her citizenship.

You are correct that there are distinctions but Trumps declaration will mean that there will be no migration to US coming from foreign countries especially arab countries. I am not against this kind of thinking nor against hi agenda. His plans has just started and I will only react if his policies resulted to negative impacts on the United States of America. It is only when we can say that Trump is not a good president if after his term his agenda doesnt made Americas situation much better.

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It's horrible how you can even think to compare Donald J Trump and Adolf Hitler, I don't even know how people can even come close to seeing the supposed / alleged similarities between the two. You're going to say that they ran on the same campaign promises and such? Well putting that into perspective doesn't every politician have similarities to Hitler and Trump when they make promises saying they're going to help the country and pretty much "make it great"

Politicians refer to past times which were greater and look to go forward and better than ever before over that, just like Trump refers to making America Great Again. All he did was put a slogan on it, nothing more nothing less.

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Quote from: Fireblazer on February 11, 2017, 03:22:08 PM

Quote from: Spendulus on February 11, 2017, 03:10:34 PM

Quote from: SameHow on February 11, 2017, 01:27:56 PM

Quote from: Sithara007 on February 11, 2017, 11:52:50 AM

Quote from: Flamma on February 11, 2017, 11:23:19 AM

I think its not a good idea, actually Trump being the president is not a good idea. Were talking about immigrants not refugees. He might also want to do a reality check. People around him are immigrants, that includes his wife. So if he's scared of terrorists, he needs a tighter security at his airports not ban people from coming in to the country who are already citizens of the US.

You need to differentiate illegal immigrants from legal immigrants. Donald Trump's wife legally immigrated to the United States more than two decades back. She paid her taxes, and waited patiently in the line to get her citizenship.

She had the opportunity to become a legal American citizen. Why so many illegal immigrants? Because they have no opportunity to obtain the status of a citizen legally. That's the problem.

A person does not have a RIGHT to immigrate where ever they want to. That they will do so regardless of the law is the problem.

People always want to live in a good state. Migrants are not a problem if the state could direct the migration flows in the right direction. In any country needs workers. If they are to assimilate into society the state will benefit from this.

It's not about what THEY want. It's about what I want, or those that own individually or jointly the land that the migrants want to travel, live and work on. We say what they can and cannot do. They don't tell us. You or others don't tell us, either. We say what we want.

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Agreed, and we're not talking about immigrants. We're talking about refugees. People seeing asylum from an unsafe living environment.

Quote from: Spendulus on February 11, 2017, 03:10:34 PM

Quote from: SameHow on February 11, 2017, 01:27:56 PM

Quote from: Sithara007 on February 11, 2017, 11:52:50 AM

Quote from: Flamma on February 11, 2017, 11:23:19 AM

I think its not a good idea, actually Trump being the president is not a good idea. Were talking about immigrants not refugees. He might also want to do a reality check. People around him are immigrants, that includes his wife. So if he's scared of terrorists, he needs a tighter security at his airports not ban people from coming in to the country who are already citizens of the US.

You need to differentiate illegal immigrants from legal immigrants. Donald Trump's wife legally immigrated to the United States more than two decades back. She paid her taxes, and waited patiently in the line to get her citizenship.

She had the opportunity to become a legal American citizen. Why so many illegal immigrants? Because they have no opportunity to obtain the status of a citizen legally. That's the problem.

A person does not have a RIGHT to immigrate where ever they want to. That they will do so regardless of the law is the problem.

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Quote from: Spendulus on February 11, 2017, 03:10:34 PM

Quote from: SameHow on February 11, 2017, 01:27:56 PM

Quote from: Sithara007 on February 11, 2017, 11:52:50 AM

Quote from: Flamma on February 11, 2017, 11:23:19 AM

I think its not a good idea, actually Trump being the president is not a good idea. Were talking about immigrants not refugees. He might also want to do a reality check. People around him are immigrants, that includes his wife. So if he's scared of terrorists, he needs a tighter security at his airports not ban people from coming in to the country who are already citizens of the US.

You need to differentiate illegal immigrants from legal immigrants. Donald Trump's wife legally immigrated to the United States more than two decades back. She paid her taxes, and waited patiently in the line to get her citizenship.

She had the opportunity to become a legal American citizen. Why so many illegal immigrants? Because they have no opportunity to obtain the status of a citizen legally. That's the problem.

A person does not have a RIGHT to immigrate where ever they want to. That they will do so regardless of the law is the problem.

Perfectly. Immigration have been prohibited many times in the past in the United States, and this is why it always worked. You can not just import hundred of thousands of people that have half the IQ of a 12 years old child and hope that all goes well. This is for American people security.

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Quote from: Spendulus on February 11, 2017, 03:10:34 PM

Quote from: SameHow on February 11, 2017, 01:27:56 PM

Quote from: Sithara007 on February 11, 2017, 11:52:50 AM

Quote from: Flamma on February 11, 2017, 11:23:19 AM

I think its not a good idea, actually Trump being the president is not a good idea. Were talking about immigrants not refugees. He might also want to do a reality check. People around him are immigrants, that includes his wife. So if he's scared of terrorists, he needs a tighter security at his airports not ban people from coming in to the country who are already citizens of the US.

You need to differentiate illegal immigrants from legal immigrants. Donald Trump's wife legally immigrated to the United States more than two decades back. She paid her taxes, and waited patiently in the line to get her citizenship.

She had the opportunity to become a legal American citizen. Why so many illegal immigrants? Because they have no opportunity to obtain the status of a citizen legally. That's the problem.

A person does not have a RIGHT to immigrate where ever they want to. That they will do so regardless of the law is the problem.

People always want to live in a good state. Migrants are not a problem if the state could direct the migration flows in the right direction. In any country needs workers. If they are to assimilate into society the state will benefit from this.

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Quote from: SameHow on February 11, 2017, 01:27:56 PM

Quote from: Sithara007 on February 11, 2017, 11:52:50 AM

Quote from: Flamma on February 11, 2017, 11:23:19 AM

I think its not a good idea, actually Trump being the president is not a good idea. Were talking about immigrants not refugees. He might also want to do a reality check. People around him are immigrants, that includes his wife. So if he's scared of terrorists, he needs a tighter security at his airports not ban people from coming in to the country who are already citizens of the US.

You need to differentiate illegal immigrants from legal immigrants. Donald Trump's wife legally immigrated to the United States more than two decades back. She paid her taxes, and waited patiently in the line to get her citizenship.

She had the opportunity to become a legal American citizen. Why so many illegal immigrants? Because they have no opportunity to obtain the status of a citizen legally. That's the problem.

A person does not have a RIGHT to immigrate where ever they want to. That they will do so regardless of the law is the problem.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on February 11, 2017, 11:52:50 AM

Quote from: Flamma on February 11, 2017, 11:23:19 AM

I think its not a good idea, actually Trump being the president is not a good idea. Were talking about immigrants not refugees. He might also want to do a reality check. People around him are immigrants, that includes his wife. So if he's scared of terrorists, he needs a tighter security at his airports not ban people from coming in to the country who are already citizens of the US.

You need to differentiate illegal immigrants from legal immigrants. Donald Trump's wife legally immigrated to the United States more than two decades back. She paid her taxes, and waited patiently in the line to get her citizenship.

She had the opportunity to become a legal American citizen. Why so many illegal immigrants? Because they have no opportunity to obtain the status of a citizen legally. That's the problem.

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Quote from: Flamma on February 11, 2017, 11:23:19 AM

I think its not a good idea, actually Trump being the president is not a good idea. Were talking about immigrants not refugees. He might also want to do a reality check. People around him are immigrants, that includes his wife. So if he's scared of terrorists, he needs a tighter security at his airports not ban people from coming in to the country who are already citizens of the US.

You need to differentiate illegal immigrants from legal immigrants. Donald Trump's wife legally immigrated to the United States more than two decades back. She paid her taxes, and waited patiently in the line to get her citizenship.

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I think its not a good idea, actually Trump being the president is not a good idea. Were talking about immigrants not refugees. He might also want to do a reality check. People around him are immigrants, that includes his wife. So if he's scared of terrorists, he needs a tighter security at his airports not ban people from coming in to the country who are already citizens of the US.

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Quote from: criptix on February 05, 2017, 01:18:59 AM

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Quote from: ekaterina77 on February 03, 2017, 12:36:34 PM

To get a green card is actually very difficult. My friend lives and works in America for 18 years and does not have citizenship. To get a green card in a poor country is almost impossible.

That's what happens if you go through the legal route. Your friend should have immigrated to the US illegally, and produced a dozen anchor babies. By now, his children would have been able to sponsor him as a legal resident.

Right can only make anchor babies if you an illegal immigrant Cheesy

I agree with you. A lot of migrants don't want to formalize their stay in America because they are afraid to give themselves to immigration. I think that America will only get worse. This is not a registered weapon.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on February 05, 2017, 01:14:42 AM

Quote from: ekaterina77 on February 03, 2017, 12:36:34 PM

To get a green card is actually very difficult. My friend lives and works in America for 18 years and does not have citizenship. To get a green card in a poor country is almost impossible.

That's what happens if you go through the legal route. Your friend should have immigrated to the US illegally, and produced a dozen anchor babies. By now, his children would have been able to sponsor him as a legal resident.

Right can only make anchor babies if you an illegal immigrant Cheesy

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Quote from: ekaterina77 on February 03, 2017, 12:36:34 PM

To get a green card is actually very difficult. My friend lives and works in America for 18 years and does not have citizenship. To get a green card in a poor country is almost impossible.

That's what happens if you go through the legal route. Your friend should have immigrated to the US illegally, and produced a dozen anchor babies. By now, his children would have been able to sponsor him as a legal resident.

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Quote from: ovvidiy on February 04, 2017, 05:31:55 AM

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Quote from: prince V on February 03, 2017, 12:35:10 PM

as trump wishes to improve ties with north korea he has to not ban pakistan because north korea recueves huge quantity of uranium from pakistan and using which they make nuclear weapons.

No. Trump is not going to improve relations with the DPRK.

And the relationship between the DPRK and Pakistan is mutually beneficial. The DPRK got Uranium from Pakistan, and in return the North Koreans supplied the technology needed to make nuclear weapons to the Pakis.

Trump even have to go to a psychiatrist. I think he doesn't know what he's doing. When he became President he imagines himself to Batman and thought that all of it will be afraid. It is not so simple. The world will unite around another leader.

Does he get the cool motorcycle?

Beats Obama trying to play FDR

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Quote from: Sithara007 on February 04, 2017, 02:55:41 AM

Quote from: prince V on February 03, 2017, 12:35:10 PM

as trump wishes to improve ties with north korea he has to not ban pakistan because north korea recueves huge quantity of uranium from pakistan and using which they make nuclear weapons.

No. Trump is not going to improve relations with the DPRK.

And the relationship between the DPRK and Pakistan is mutually beneficial. The DPRK got Uranium from Pakistan, and in return the North Koreans supplied the technology needed to make nuclear weapons to the Pakis.

Trump even have to go to a psychiatrist. I think he doesn't know what he's doing. When he became President he imagines himself to Batman and thought that all of it will be afraid. It is not so simple. The world will unite around another leader.

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Quote from: prince V on February 03, 2017, 12:35:10 PM

as trump wishes to improve ties with north korea he has to not ban pakistan because north korea recueves huge quantity of uranium from pakistan and using which they make nuclear weapons.

No. Trump is not going to improve relations with the DPRK.

And the relationship between the DPRK and Pakistan is mutually beneficial. The DPRK got Uranium from Pakistan, and in return the North Koreans supplied the technology needed to make nuclear weapons to the Pakis.

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I believe had the Jews had any weapons they would have fought back against the Nazi but since they were unarmed, they were led to the slaughter like sheeps. Trump has every right to refuse the flow of immigratio, He is President and will do anything he sees as good for the People of the USA. The same way Obama did during his tenure in office.

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