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legendary
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February 03, 2017, 04:28:03 PM
#52
They didn't have the same strategy to begin if, Hitler disarmed his citizens while Trump on the other hand made it clear that it was the right of the citizens to bear arms. Obama and Hillary's Gun control law seeks to punish gun manufacturers and prohibit people from getting guns, From this scenario you will know who was rather inclined to Hitler's position.

You realize that whole nazi germany was a military economy? Majority of men were soldiers and woman were working in arms production.
Im pretty sure every single german family had arms of some sort in nazi germany.

Hitler actually only outlawed guns for jews, roma etc (for obvious reason) and changed the laws for nazis to bear arms without a license. Look up RGBl I, 265 from march 18 in year 1938.
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February 03, 2017, 04:22:50 PM
#51
They didn't have the same strategy to begin if, Hitler disarmed his citizens while Trump on the other hand made it clear that it was the right of the citizens to bear arms. Obama and Hillary's Gun control law seeks to punish gun manufacturers and prohibit people from getting guns, From this scenario you will know who was rather inclined to Hitler's position.
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February 03, 2017, 03:09:48 PM
#50
I agree with it.
Slow this shit down so he can get his countries shit together first.
Or he will have US end up where Europe has put them selves in with mass immigration allowed.
Now Merkel is taking the flack and everybody wants he out of there.
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February 03, 2017, 01:04:16 PM
#49
The existence of nuclear weapons doesn't bother me. It might bother if it were in the same hands, and so it is a useless toy. Saudi Arabia can make quite a big trouble for America's economy.

It is always risky, considering the relationship which some of these top Pakistani officials have with Al Qaeda / ISIS. There is no guarantee that these guys will not provide the ISIS with nuclear technology, if not nuclear weapons or enriched Uranium.
Why do we need Pakistan? Do you think that the President of Pakistan does not understand that you cannot give a monkey a grenade? In addition, the content of the application and maintenance of nuclear weapons is very expensive and difficult.

As I said, it is complex. First of all, Pakistan is regarded as one of the most important allies of the US in the region. And secondly, if you break your ties with Pakistan, then China and Russia will attempt to bring that country to their orbit. You want to avoid that, right?
Pakistanis might be officially not banned but none among them get visas so its typically a ban on them.
Pakistan is not any important alliea of US only reason he didnt ban was because pak is supplier of uranium which US might need in near future.and as trump wishes to improve ties with north korea he has to not ban pakistan because north korea recueves huge quantity of uranium from pakistan and using which they make nuclear weapons.

It just shows that in today's world it is not possible to wall itself off and live without noticing what's happening around. Trump and his supporters do not understand and therefore they are doomed to failure.
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February 03, 2017, 12:42:56 PM
#48
I don't have any real beef with the guy, i just think it was inappropriate for him to be put in charge.
And no that does not automatically mean i was a Hillary supporter.
I also had no real problem with Obama either.
I don't care about political labels.. i care about who is doing a good job.

So.. do you all think his immigration executive decision was good ?
I think it was stupid behavior.. with more to come of course  Roll Eyes

The decision might not be good at all but I think that most of the richest and countries that have good prescriptive to live, most of them block most of the people to get a visa there especially from poor countries or from countries that are in conflicts with some countries, but they have the lottery where lots of people get the green card and join the U.S community.
To get a green card is actually very difficult. My friend lives and works in America for 18 years and does not have citizenship. To get a green card in a poor country is almost impossible.
Green card achieving depends on the visa but there are simpler solns also to get citizenship just mary a us girl and you attain citizenship of the country.
Even that business is being done for few $$
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February 03, 2017, 12:36:34 PM
#47
I don't have any real beef with the guy, i just think it was inappropriate for him to be put in charge.
And no that does not automatically mean i was a Hillary supporter.
I also had no real problem with Obama either.
I don't care about political labels.. i care about who is doing a good job.

So.. do you all think his immigration executive decision was good ?
I think it was stupid behavior.. with more to come of course  Roll Eyes

The decision might not be good at all but I think that most of the richest and countries that have good prescriptive to live, most of them block most of the people to get a visa there especially from poor countries or from countries that are in conflicts with some countries, but they have the lottery where lots of people get the green card and join the U.S community.
To get a green card is actually very difficult. My friend lives and works in America for 18 years and does not have citizenship. To get a green card in a poor country is almost impossible.
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February 03, 2017, 12:35:10 PM
#46
The existence of nuclear weapons doesn't bother me. It might bother if it were in the same hands, and so it is a useless toy. Saudi Arabia can make quite a big trouble for America's economy.

It is always risky, considering the relationship which some of these top Pakistani officials have with Al Qaeda / ISIS. There is no guarantee that these guys will not provide the ISIS with nuclear technology, if not nuclear weapons or enriched Uranium.
Why do we need Pakistan? Do you think that the President of Pakistan does not understand that you cannot give a monkey a grenade? In addition, the content of the application and maintenance of nuclear weapons is very expensive and difficult.

As I said, it is complex. First of all, Pakistan is regarded as one of the most important allies of the US in the region. And secondly, if you break your ties with Pakistan, then China and Russia will attempt to bring that country to their orbit. You want to avoid that, right?
Pakistanis might be officially not banned but none among them get visas so its typically a ban on them.
Pakistan is not any important alliea of US only reason he didnt ban was because pak is supplier of uranium which US might need in near future.and as trump wishes to improve ties with north korea he has to not ban pakistan because north korea recueves huge quantity of uranium from pakistan and using which they make nuclear weapons.
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February 03, 2017, 12:30:23 PM
#45
He did nothing wrong.1st thing president should love is people of his country and then everything else.Trump has given his life to make america something better if immigration is going to do good for americans what is bad he did!!!
Trump is a businessman with billions in accs and a very big business he could have lived a luxurious life with all things needed but he is standing for betterment of americans he is reducing taxes, bringing jobs, building wall... rules for whom?its not going to benefit him its for the people.
He is very kind to his country people and so is the reason he has frozen immigration.so he is right at his path.
If any one who wanted to migrate to US but couldnot now because of the new rules then just know world doesnot begin or end with US globe is round there are opportunities every where in world.There are countries with currency even better than US.
Muslim brothers you can migrate to quwait saudi... and make mny.
in quwait you can make more mny than you could in US
Am not a muslim so i dont know how it actually feels to hear that a ban to muslims(ban to your religion to enter the prestigious country of world) is put up if done as racism its very bad but my angle shows its done for good of people so might be a correct decision.
sr. member
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February 03, 2017, 11:36:57 AM
#44
The existence of nuclear weapons doesn't bother me. It might bother if it were in the same hands, and so it is a useless toy. Saudi Arabia can make quite a big trouble for America's economy.

It is always risky, considering the relationship which some of these top Pakistani officials have with Al Qaeda / ISIS. There is no guarantee that these guys will not provide the ISIS with nuclear technology, if not nuclear weapons or enriched Uranium.
Why do we need Pakistan? Do you think that the President of Pakistan does not understand that you cannot give a monkey a grenade? In addition, the content of the application and maintenance of nuclear weapons is very expensive and difficult.

As I said, it is complex. First of all, Pakistan is regarded as one of the most important allies of the US in the region. And secondly, if you break your ties with Pakistan, then China and Russia will attempt to bring that country to their orbit. You want to avoid that, right?
The problem is that the Americans who voted for Trump not very good at politics. I'm sure most of them will not tell you where is Pakistan. They don't understand that America was in that condition when foreign policy helped to support the economy.
legendary
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February 02, 2017, 09:11:34 PM
#43
The existence of nuclear weapons doesn't bother me. It might bother if it were in the same hands, and so it is a useless toy. Saudi Arabia can make quite a big trouble for America's economy.

It is always risky, considering the relationship which some of these top Pakistani officials have with Al Qaeda / ISIS. There is no guarantee that these guys will not provide the ISIS with nuclear technology, if not nuclear weapons or enriched Uranium.
Why do we need Pakistan? Do you think that the President of Pakistan does not understand that you cannot give a monkey a grenade? In addition, the content of the application and maintenance of nuclear weapons is very expensive and difficult.

As I said, it is complex. First of all, Pakistan is regarded as one of the most important allies of the US in the region. And secondly, if you break your ties with Pakistan, then China and Russia will attempt to bring that country to their orbit. You want to avoid that, right?
legendary
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February 02, 2017, 06:05:54 PM
#42
The existence of nuclear weapons doesn't bother me. It might bother if it were in the same hands, and so it is a useless toy. Saudi Arabia can make quite a big trouble for America's economy.

It is always risky, considering the relationship which some of these top Pakistani officials have with Al Qaeda / ISIS. There is no guarantee that these guys will not provide the ISIS with nuclear technology, if not nuclear weapons or enriched Uranium.
Why do we need Pakistan? Do you think that the President of Pakistan does not understand that you cannot give a monkey a grenade?....
But monkeys don't understand.  Teach them to throw grenade, get banana, they throw.
sr. member
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February 02, 2017, 08:07:27 AM
#41
More people are in favor of Trump's travel ban than against - who've answered this poll.

I wonder where the people that are in favor of the travel ban are from? What Continent? Which Countries? Developed countries or developing countries.

This information may tell us something interesting.
The conflict of interests of trump and Turnbull have endangered agreement on the resettlement of refugees from Australia to USA. American President described this telephone call as "the worst" of all that he had with world leaders in that day
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February 02, 2017, 07:48:09 AM
#40
The existence of nuclear weapons doesn't bother me. It might bother if it were in the same hands, and so it is a useless toy. Saudi Arabia can make quite a big trouble for America's economy.

It is always risky, considering the relationship which some of these top Pakistani officials have with Al Qaeda / ISIS. There is no guarantee that these guys will not provide the ISIS with nuclear technology, if not nuclear weapons or enriched Uranium.
Why do we need Pakistan? Do you think that the President of Pakistan does not understand that you cannot give a monkey a grenade? In addition, the content of the application and maintenance of nuclear weapons is very expensive and difficult.
legendary
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February 01, 2017, 11:13:22 PM
#39
The existence of nuclear weapons doesn't bother me. It might bother if it were in the same hands, and so it is a useless toy. Saudi Arabia can make quite a big trouble for America's economy.

It is always risky, considering the relationship which some of these top Pakistani officials have with Al Qaeda / ISIS. There is no guarantee that these guys will not provide the ISIS with nuclear technology, if not nuclear weapons or enriched Uranium.
legendary
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February 01, 2017, 09:28:38 PM
#38
More people are in favor of Trump's travel ban than against - who've answered this poll.

I wonder where the people that are in favor of the travel ban are from? What Continent? Which Countries? Developed countries or developing countries.

This information may tell us something interesting.
Well let me be the first to tell you because i ain't scared of no mf..I am in favour of ban and i am from the UK..
So that's 1 vote Wink

TO MUCH ISLAM..

Now i know what the Japanese must of felt like when Christianity hit there shores..

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WINSTON CHURCHILL..Own words..

While these words were written when he was only 25-years-old (in 1899), they serve as a prophetic warning to Western civilization today.

“How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism (Islam) lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy.”

Churchill apparently witnessed the same phenomenon in several places he visited. “The effects are apparent in many countries: improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live.”

He saw the temporal and the eternal tainted by their belief system. “A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement, the next of its dignity and sanctity,” he wrote.

The second-class status of women also grated at the young officer. “The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men,” he noted.

“Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities, but the influence of the religion paralyzes the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world.”

If a ban on hate speech comes to affect get everyone to sign a petition to change the law they must change if most of the people want it changed..

The people say what laws we want to rule us NOT SOME SNOBBY LITTLE SHIT..

Just remember secret service army police ..You are the first on the front line?..
Make sure your not there to line your bosses pockets or some elite or politicians pockets..
So they used you like a PAWN on a chess board..

And also it's your children who have to live in this world that the elite are trying to make..
YOU MEAN NOTHING..You are my sons and daughters on the front line..

I want you on the front line to save your country I.E YOUR HOME Wink and nothing else ..
Not to line some toffs pocket because he makes rockets and wants to use them so we the tax payer can buy more..

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Prior to his appointment as National Security Adviser, Lord Ricketts had been the Permanent Secretary in the Foreign and Commonwealth Office. Before he took over that position in July 2006, he served as the Permanent Representative to NATO in Brussels. He was also previously the Chairman of the Joint Intelligence Committee, leading him to give evidence to The Iraq Inquiry in November 2009.[5] He began his career in the Foreign and Commonwealth Office in 1974 and served as the Assistant Private Secretary to former Foreign Secretary Sir Geoffrey Howe. Apart from Brussels, he has been posted to Singapore, Washington D.C. and Paris. Ricketts retired from HM Diplomatic Service in January 201


Now do you see politicians selling weapons for their friends..
And the secret service army put themselves on the front line..
Yes they pay your top ranking bosses the BACKHANDERS Wink..And then they put you on the front line..

But you could be my son or daughter they are doing this to..
Now instead of going out to risk your lives once a year you are risking your lives 10 times a year to line someones pockets..And not your pockets and you are the one who put your lives in danger..
HOW MUCH IS YOUR LIFE WORTH..
Now ask your boss how much your life is worth Wink..
To me it's worth as much as any man or women on this planet..
But does your boss think so?..
 
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February 01, 2017, 09:20:03 PM
#37
More people are in favor of Trump's travel ban than against - who've answered this poll.

I wonder where the people that are in favor of the travel ban are from? What Continent? Which Countries? Developed countries or developing countries.

This information may tell us something interesting.
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February 01, 2017, 07:12:59 PM
#36
countries have the right to decide who comes and goes, but it's madness that this applies to visa and green card holders. anyone who knows anything about america knows that that's not a simple thing to get.

and while we're here, why the hell ain't they banning saudis and pakistanis? they're just as much of a threat to westerners as the other countries nominated.

DAMN DID WE FORGET SOMEBODY?

Smiley

The Saudis can't be banned, because a considerable portion of the American federal debt is owned by them. And Pakistan is the most important ally of the United States in South Asia. And don't forget that it is a nuclear power.
The existence of nuclear weapons doesn't bother me. It might bother if it were in the same hands, and so it is a useless toy. Saudi Arabia can make quite a big trouble for America's economy.
legendary
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February 01, 2017, 07:01:11 PM
#35
I think that Trump has a plan, or he is doing something. We cannot accuse him, because we do not what is his main idea, or what he will going to do? We should follow him, or we should know what is his ideas or plan to be. Immigration being frozen, a lot of question would be? Is there anything in immigration? And why Trump freezes immigration ?
But if Trump will jump down from the roof of his trump tower you will also follow? I don't think so. Are you sure that Trump is not a spy of Putin? Or just crazy? It now destroys all the principles of the existence of America. Not afraid that America will collapse?

No, nope, nay.
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February 01, 2017, 07:03:50 AM
#34
I think that Trump has a plan, or he is doing something. We cannot accuse him, because we do not what is his main idea, or what he will going to do? We should follow him, or we should know what is his ideas or plan to be. Immigration being frozen, a lot of question would be? Is there anything in immigration? And why Trump freezes immigration ?
But if Trump will jump down from the roof of his trump tower you will also follow? I don't think so. Are you sure that Trump is not a spy of Putin? Or just crazy? It now destroys all the principles of the existence of America. Not afraid that America will collapse?
legendary
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February 01, 2017, 06:57:17 AM
#33
I think that Trump has a plan, or he is doing something. We cannot accuse him, because we do not what is his main idea, or what he will going to do? We should follow him, or we should know what is his ideas or plan to be. Immigration being frozen, a lot of question would be? Is there anything in immigration? And why Trump freezes immigration ?

Here's his statement about it.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2017/01/29/president-donald-j-trump-statement-regarding-recent-executive-order

“America is a proud nation of immigrants and we will continue to show compassion to those fleeing oppression, but we will do so while protecting our own citizens and border. America has always been the land of the free and home of the brave. We will keep it free and keep it safe, as the media knows, but refuses to say. My policy is similar to what President Obama did in 2011 when he banned visas for refugees from Iraq for six months. The seven countries named in the Executive Order are the same countries previously identified by the Obama administration as sources of terror. To be clear, this is not a Muslim ban, as the media is falsely reporting. This is not about religion - this is about terror and keeping our country safe. There are over 40 different countries worldwide that are majority Muslim that are not affected by this order. We will again be issuing visas to all countries once we are sure we have reviewed and implemented the most secure policies over the next 90 days. I have tremendous feeling for the people involved in this horrific humanitarian crisis in Syria. My first priority will always be to protect and serve our country, but as President I will find ways to help all those who are suffering.”
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