Topic: [NEWS] Trump freezes immigration + POLL - page 3. (Read 3257 times)
I think that Trump has a plan, or he is doing something. We cannot accuse him, because we do not what is his main idea, or what he will going to do? We should follow him, or we should know what is his ideas or plan to be. Immigration being frozen, a lot of question would be? Is there anything in immigration? And why Trump freezes immigration ?
I was joking. The US relation with both Saudi and Pakistan is complex.
"With friends like those who needs enemies?"
lol...
"With friends like those who needs enemies?"
lol...
Yes.. it is complex. If the Americans refuse to sanction funds to Pakistan, then the other super-powers (especially China and Russia, may be Iran as well) will move in to fill the void. Also, if the Americans want to launch an attack on Iran, the Pakistani province of Balochestan will be the best location for it.
countries have the right to decide who comes and goes, but it's madness that this applies to visa and green card holders. anyone who knows anything about america knows that that's not a simple thing to get.
and while we're here, why the hell ain't they banning saudis and pakistanis? they're just as much of a threat to westerners as the other countries nominated.
and while we're here, why the hell ain't they banning saudis and pakistanis? they're just as much of a threat to westerners as the other countries nominated.
DAMN DID WE FORGET SOMEBODY?
The Saudis can't be banned, because a considerable portion of the American federal debt is owned by them. And Pakistan is the most important ally of the United States in South Asia. And don't forget that it is a nuclear power.
I was joking. The US relation with both Saudi and Pakistan is complex.
"With friends like those who needs enemies?"
lol...
countries have the right to decide who comes and goes, but it's madness that this applies to visa and green card holders. anyone who knows anything about america knows that that's not a simple thing to get.
and while we're here, why the hell ain't they banning saudis and pakistanis? they're just as much of a threat to westerners as the other countries nominated.
and while we're here, why the hell ain't they banning saudis and pakistanis? they're just as much of a threat to westerners as the other countries nominated.
DAMN DID WE FORGET SOMEBODY?
The Saudis can't be banned, because a considerable portion of the American federal debt is owned by them. And Pakistan is the most important ally of the United States in South Asia. And don't forget that it is a nuclear power.
countries have the right to decide who comes and goes, but it's madness that this applies to visa and green card holders. anyone who knows anything about america knows that that's not a simple thing to get.
and while we're here, why the hell ain't they banning saudis and pakistanis? they're just as much of a threat to westerners as the other countries nominated.
and while we're here, why the hell ain't they banning saudis and pakistanis? they're just as much of a threat to westerners as the other countries nominated.
DAMN DID WE FORGET SOMEBODY?
Here's The Real Deal In A Nutshell, Fellow Americans...
Read more at http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=67766.
Agencies within the United States Government will begin withholding federal grant funds from those cities, and additional actions to enforce federal immigration law will be taken soon.
Unlike Obama, President Trump is not trying to making new laws by executive decree. In his Executive Order, the president is only reminding mayors and governors of existing federal law dating to 1996:
U.S. Code › Title 8 › Chapter 12 › Subchapter II › Part IX › § 1373
8 U.S. Code § 1373 – Communication between government agencies and the Immigration and Naturalization Service:
Notwithstanding any other provision of Federal, State, or local law, a Federal, State, or local government entity or official may not prohibit, or in any way restrict, any government entity or official from sending to, or receiving from, the Immigration and Naturalization Service information regarding the citizenship or immigration status, lawful or unlawful, of any individual.
Unlike Obama, President Trump is not trying to making new laws by executive decree. In his Executive Order, the president is only reminding mayors and governors of existing federal law dating to 1996:
U.S. Code › Title 8 › Chapter 12 › Subchapter II › Part IX › § 1373
8 U.S. Code § 1373 – Communication between government agencies and the Immigration and Naturalization Service:
Notwithstanding any other provision of Federal, State, or local law, a Federal, State, or local government entity or official may not prohibit, or in any way restrict, any government entity or official from sending to, or receiving from, the Immigration and Naturalization Service information regarding the citizenship or immigration status, lawful or unlawful, of any individual.
Read more at http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=67766.
Trump probably forgot that America was built by immigrants. There is no ethnic American. On the contrary America is always created good conditions for life and realize their potential for immigrants. That is what made America great.
The US was built by legal immigrants. These immigrants applied for the citizenship and received them. They served in the army and paid taxes to the American treasury. The Mexicans on the other hand are illegal immigrants, who don't pay any tax.
Trump probably forgot that America was built by immigrants. There is no ethnic American. On the contrary America is always created good conditions for life and realize their potential for immigrants. That is what made America great.
Individuals should be allowed to accept refugees at their own expense and responsibility. The sponsor pays the entire cost of resettlement along with upkeep costs, and if the refugees are found guilty of any wrongdoings, their sponsor is also guilty of the same wrongdoings, until the time that the refugee is able to pay their own way and become a productive member of society through normal immigration procedures.
That is solely why Trump freezes immigration. Since it is costly, imagine a country using the public tax to be spent on alien immigrants and in huge value. If those funds are spent on welfare then the public tax will really play its role. Its not bad to cater immigrants but a huge number of immigrants to be supported by the government is too much. Probably Trump wanted to establish more policies to uplift the economy before accepting immigrants.
Trump and the Republicans are hypocrites...more each day. Trump does not do what he says, let me provide some examples:
I could share more.
Majority of these immigrants are dependent on nothing more than a community that's not in the middle of war.
Life will be worse under Trump. Especially when he starts taxing all the imports Americans buy...the middle-America folks that voted for him won't be able to afford anything anymore (and they still won't have their jobs).
The US economy has skyrocketed under Obama. It's fact...not opinion. http://www.factcheck.org/2015/01/obamas-numbers-january-2015-update/ (P.S. The only reason users of food stamps has gone up is because Obama expanded the program to cover people that earn more money than the law previously allowed, thus not an indicator of personal economic downturn.)
Yeah, Trump is doing excellent..
Everyone said that he would never actually do what he said he was going to do..
Trump has done more things that he promised campaigning in like 2 weeks than obama did in 8 years..
Thanks to Trump, things are looking good..
The last thing we need are dependent immigrants that are completely incompatible with democracy and freedom, and want to kill us..
- He once said that the CIA couldn't be trusted, however this week he said he loves the CIA
- He once claimed Obama was abusing his power by issuing Executive Orders, yet Trump has issued more Executive Orders this week than Obama
- He declared that muslim immigration should be halted, but hasn't applied that Executive Order to immigrants coming from countries where he has business dealings (Saudi, UAE, Turkey, Azerbaijan, etc.)
- He said he'd "drain the swamp" but has filled his cabinet with friends and family, most of whom are billionaires
- He said he would fund his own campaign, yet he accepted loads of donations
- He originally said he was for the withdrawal of troops in Iraq, until Obama made the same decision and Trump infamously insisted we must stay
I could share more.
Majority of these immigrants are dependent on nothing more than a community that's not in the middle of war.
Life will be worse under Trump. Especially when he starts taxing all the imports Americans buy...the middle-America folks that voted for him won't be able to afford anything anymore (and they still won't have their jobs).
The US economy has skyrocketed under Obama. It's fact...not opinion. http://www.factcheck.org/2015/01/obamas-numbers-january-2015-update/ (P.S. The only reason users of food stamps has gone up is because Obama expanded the program to cover people that earn more money than the law previously allowed, thus not an indicator of personal economic downturn.)
So.. do you all think his immigration executive decision was good ?
I think it was stupid behavior.. with more to come of course
I think it was stupid behavior.. with more to come of course
Yeah, Trump is doing excellent..
Everyone said that he would never actually do what he said he was going to do..
Trump has done more things that he promised campaigning in like 2 weeks than obama did in 8 years..
Thanks to Trump, things are looking good..
The last thing we need are dependent immigrants that are completely incompatible with democracy and freedom, and want to kill us..
So.. do you all think his immigration executive decision was good ?
I think it was stupid behavior.. with more to come of course
I think it was stupid behavior.. with more to come of course
Yeah, Trump is doing excellent..
Everyone said that he would never actually do what he said he was going to do..
Trump has done more things that he promised campaigning in like 2 weeks than obama did in 8 years..
Thanks to Trump, things are looking good..
The last thing we need are dependent immigrants that are completely incompatible with democracy and freedom, and want to kill us..
America does not have any immigrants.
The country belongs to the Native Americans. They were invaded and nearly wiped out. The people were invaders and since then anyone going over there are reinforcements.
Perhaps Trump doesn't need anymore reinforcements.
The country belongs to the Native Americans. They were invaded and nearly wiped out. The people were invaders and since then anyone going over there are reinforcements.
Perhaps Trump doesn't need anymore reinforcements.
I don't have any real beef with the guy, i just think it was inappropriate for him to be put in charge.
And no that does not automatically mean i was a Hillary supporter.
I also had no real problem with Obama either.
I don't care about political labels.. i care about who is doing a good job.
So.. do you all think his immigration executive decision was good ?
I think it was stupid behavior.. with more to come of course
And no that does not automatically mean i was a Hillary supporter.
I also had no real problem with Obama either.
I don't care about political labels.. i care about who is doing a good job.
So.. do you all think his immigration executive decision was good ?
I think it was stupid behavior.. with more to come of course
The decision might not be good at all but I think that most of the richest and countries that have good prescriptive to live, most of them block most of the people to get a visa there especially from poor countries or from countries that are in conflicts with some countries, but they have the lottery where lots of people get the green card and join the U.S community.
countries have the right to decide who comes and goes, but it's madness that this applies to visa and green card holders. anyone who knows anything about america knows that that's not a simple thing to get.
and while we're here, why the hell ain't they banning saudis and pakistanis? they're just as much of a threat to westerners as the other countries nominated.
and while we're here, why the hell ain't they banning saudis and pakistanis? they're just as much of a threat to westerners as the other countries nominated.
Individuals should be allowed to accept refugees at their own expense and responsibility. The sponsor pays the entire cost of resettlement along with upkeep costs, and if the refugees are found guilty of any wrongdoings, their sponsor is also guilty of the same wrongdoings, until the time that the refugee is able to pay their own way and become a productive member of society through normal immigration procedures.
This is the best solution to the immigration problem I have seen. If you are capable of keeping your own immigrant and pay for him, then please, take responsibility.Of course it would be problematic and hard to achieve from the legal point of view. But it is still better that creation of camps with refugees/illegal immigrants living in below average conditions.
If a person knows English well, and if he knows the common law system of Government we have, no matter where he is from, he can stand as a man with the right claim in court, and if he does it the right way, nobody will stand with anything against him, unless he has caused injury. He can stay.
Although I am not a fan of Donald Trump, but on this issue of immigration, I am kind of cool with it but not with the lame excuse that they are Muslims after all this policy won't exempt any one both Muslims and Christians will be affected. But at the same time, me as a host should be able to decide who I bring into my house and also who I shut the door on. At least I still deserve that.
Best deal with the refugees can only be the case if the life in the camp on the territory of their country be better than living on welfare in Europe. Enough to stop funding the migrants and they will no longer go to EU countries
That is the most logical and the easiest option. Create safe zones within these countries, where the refugees can reside without the fear of shelling and bomb attacks. But the leftists will be opposed to this idea.
Individuals should be allowed to accept refugees at their own expense and responsibility. The sponsor pays the entire cost of resettlement along with upkeep costs, and if the refugees are found guilty of any wrongdoings, their sponsor is also guilty of the same wrongdoings, until the time that the refugee is able to pay their own way and become a productive member of society through normal immigration procedures.
This is actually a great idea, Europe should learn from it and establish such laws. At the moment, the politicians are living in their villas, surrounded by 3m fences and concrete walls, with security systems and do not care what the refugees are doing. They don't have to live next to raging immigrant mob, that roams the streets at night, looking for people to rob and women to rape. Some of the most vocal leftists should be made to live next to a refugee housing and I'm certain their view on immigration would quickly change.The problem is that not every immigrant knows someone in America. How will he find sponsors? In addition, immigration policy should be aimed at the development are not popular jobs. Besides, due to this you can reduce the cost of very high standing projects.
We have Internet and other media, they will have to learn to sell themselves. We have to do it to find a job, they will have to do it to get a sponsor, allowance and a shot at a real life in a civilised country.OK.. I have no problem with this. But there are a few conditions. The refugee will be ineligible for citizenship. Once the war is over in his country, he will be replaced with another refugee from another country. Also, if the refugee is found guilty of any violent crime, then the refugee must be deported and his sponsor should be punished. For example, if the refugee commits a rape, then the perpetrator must be deported, and his sponsor must be raped with a broomstick.
Remember that a punishment has to be unpleasant. Making such laws is quite dangerous as there are people with a taste for fetishes. Jump to: